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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: Nefario on March 23, 2011, 11:09:20 AM



Title: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: Nefario on March 23, 2011, 11:09:20 AM
I have a few bitcoins on mtgox, and for the last few weeks have been playing it to reasonable success, in total I had made a profit of some 5 bitcoins until today.

I had expected the drop in btc price to continue until something had changed the market, a new service with bitocoin or some bit piece of news.

Last night I set a sell at a little over $0.80, and a buy at $0.76. On arriving today I see that I did indeed have that sell order filled, only to find the price has jumped through $0.84

Why oh why???

And then I see it, my Black Swan, the slashdot article.

But I ask "wait a second, slashdotters can't have gotten funds into mtgox that quick" and realised that it was those evil speculators who are responsible for this rise  :P

Anyway, I'm holding on to my cash until the price drops down to at least $0.80, no sir I'm no solidifying my losses.

In the short term, unless there is a huge influx of new users(buyers) into bitcion or the market has something that seriously changes things then I expect the price to continue to fall.

Want to prove me wrong? Offer some more goods or services for bitcoin to grow the economy!


Title: Re: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: GCInc. on March 23, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
Hello I went to search for "My Black Swan" but that's obviously not what you mean. Are you talking about the old Slashdot article or something else?


Title: Re: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: dsg on March 23, 2011, 12:08:04 PM
I've seen silk road has been mentioned in several places (*chan boards and reddit) in the past few days. While it's always hard to pin a reason for an increase or decrease in price, it wouldn't surprise me if this was related.

Regardless of your views on the trade that goes on there, that is a market with a lot of demand, where bitcoins have a clear advantage over other currencies.


Title: Re: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: Meni Rosenfeld on March 23, 2011, 12:35:40 PM
Hello I went to search for "My Black Swan" but that's obviously not what you mean. Are you talking about the old Slashdot article or something else?
I don't know about any Slashdot article, but I'm guessing Nefario was referring to Taleb's Black swan theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory).


Title: Re: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: Nefario on March 23, 2011, 01:48:10 PM
Hello I went to search for "My Black Swan" but that's obviously not what you mean. Are you talking about the old Slashdot article or something else?
I don't know about any Slashdot article, but I'm guessing Nefario was referring to Taleb's Black swan theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory).

It's th new slashdot article http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/03/23/0210207/Google-Engineer-Releases-Open-Source-Bitcoin-Client

Yes I was talking about the black swan theory.

Essentially, I had my plan for speculating, and providing no big events came along then it would work, but this slashdot article has become something of a blackswan event for me, causing the market to rally, and for my sell order to be fullfilled before I could react, and now have to wait for btc to fall if ever to break even.


Title: Re: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: Grinder on March 23, 2011, 01:59:38 PM
If something has happened several times before and has a fairly predictable result it isn't a black swan.


Title: Re: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: Nefario on March 23, 2011, 02:12:08 PM
If something has happened several times before and has a fairly predictable result it isn't a black swan.
I wasn't expecting it. Personal black swan  :P


Title: Re: Black Swan on MTGOX
Post by: Hal on March 23, 2011, 08:18:12 PM
The buy-low-sell-high game only works when the market is trading in a narrow range. But you can't expect it to stay that way forever.