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Title: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 01:07:43 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Juggy777 on August 09, 2018, 03:10:51 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Hey luck and strategy are the two sides of the same coin, you need both to succeed whenever you plan to role the dice. However contrary to the popular belief of using strategies to win, I differ from my personal experiences I have relied more on luck than strategy. The main reason I'm compelled to believe strategies don't work, as I have gambled using all popular one's and have suffered losses. Then I ditched the so called strategies, and gambled purely on luck and reaped good dividends.

However you need to try and test, what works best for you, as what works for me may not be the best way to gamble for you, good luck and make a smart choice.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Sukut on August 09, 2018, 03:28:39 PM
In my opinion, you need both luck and strategy but even if you have really good strategy or tactics in the game, if you don't have luck, your strategy is not effective. Your strategy is not important when the game is over because end of the game people just care about to win or to lose.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Initscri on August 09, 2018, 03:53:56 PM
Depends on the game, I only play skill-based games if anything. Or games where the house edge is mostly minimal.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: kurian on August 09, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
For me, I rely on luck more than strategy. With a good strategy we can make some gains but, for game of chances no strategy could give a good result for long. I've tried many strategies on dice games but, in the long run every single one failed. This is why i believe in luck as the results are completely random.  For skill based games, strategy and tactics would work.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Pamadar on August 09, 2018, 06:45:57 PM
If you can combined this two things while gambling then you can have a high chance leaving the house with some decent earnings, as both have significance, gambling is a game of chances, it's an edge if you have good skills so you can plan some strategy, while luck will permits you to win higher stake.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: sunsilk on August 09, 2018, 07:37:02 PM
Depends on your specialty and your hobby on where you really are good at.

But in generalize, having these two factors luck and strategy to make money somehow though there are times that you can't make much.

If I play poker, I don't play without saying that I need luck all of the time whether I have an unpredicted moves while in the table.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Awalt541 on August 09, 2018, 07:39:39 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
gambling is strategy or luck? you are need both for do the gambling game.

Strategy = your way to hit your goal in gambling, slowly or yolo play to get a profits.

Luck = Those were many of codes to make made the provably gambling, so you need for that.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Forever_F7 on August 09, 2018, 07:59:19 PM
Well, gambling more depends on luck. But when you playing with one strategy and that strat often make profit for you you will think that strat is very good. Don't forget gambling depedns only your luck!


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Initscri on August 09, 2018, 08:36:41 PM
Well, gambling more depends on luck. But when you playing with one strategy and that strat often make profit for you you will think that strat is very good. Don't forget gambling depedns only your luck!

Good point, strategy usually only reduces the spread on house edge. It doesn't eliminate it.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: just_Alice on August 09, 2018, 09:11:45 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Mostly it's luck, I agree that dice roll and slot roll are 100% luck, but strong no for poker. I think those games that involve only one action - clicking can't depend on anything else but luck, you can't play with the probabilities. How many there are examples of people playing using Martingale strategy and lose all of their assets because they had too many unlucky bets in a row (up to 16 I experienced myself), even though this strategy seems like a logic one. But poker is another case - there are too many actions, you can try to remember the cards, you can guess people's cards judging by their confidence and bets and the fact that you can improve your skills in poker (unlike dice) proves that it mostly lays upon strategy. Here's an interesting article and research on this topic: http://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-is-poker-a-game-of-chance-or-skill-39224


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Symphonized on August 09, 2018, 09:12:58 PM
I rather have my luck be settle with my Strategy odds.
First i study some strategies if tehy are good and how much i can take (streaks) then i apply them base on my threshold (balance and so on).


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: adzino on August 09, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Gambling totally depends on luck. There is no such thing as strategy in gambling ( expect few card games where a little bit skill/strategy is required ). That is why games such as dice, roulette, pingo etc are known as games of chances. Though you may help reduce your loss ( i am saying loss because in the long run it is the house that always wins ) a bit by using some tactics, but rest strategy are just gamblers falacy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: changcloy on August 09, 2018, 10:28:40 PM
It depends to the kind of game you played. Luck and strategy is a great combo to win in gambling but usually if I gamble I do more believe in LUCK rather than strategy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Ranly123 on August 09, 2018, 10:47:07 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Maybe you can rely on your strategy in a poker game but in rolls like dice and slot roll, it's pure luck. In general, gambling is winnable if you are lucky enough.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: leowonderful on August 10, 2018, 12:08:10 AM
Short-term gains can be achieved but they're only in the short term as house edge is always in play (which I assume everyone gambling knows well), and you're getting less than one dollar back per dollar spent on a casino in the long term. I mostly just rely on luck, as I've tried various strategies in the past and none of them have succeeded much. I do bet occasionally, and I'm slightly profitable in betting on eSports matches (specifically CS:GO), but besides that I mostly play games like dice or roulette, etc.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: crwth on August 10, 2018, 05:56:17 AM
My best belief would be on strategy because if you know what to do on a certain time, you won’t fret even for a little bit because you have planned and thought of it. For luck, pretty much what you receive is just that. Nothing else. It’s not going to be anymore than that, luck is luck and strategy is planning. Easy pick.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Baofeng on August 10, 2018, 06:29:28 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

It boils down as to what games you are playing. Obviously, luck based games like slots and roulette doesn't have a strategy.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

To make money out of gambling, you need not to be greedy. When I was starting my gambling journey, I used to spend hours in a casino and really targeting to get more money from the house but it doesn't work. My strategy now is as long as my bankroll is intact and I have won a good 10% of it, I quit and go home.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: AT101ET on August 10, 2018, 07:13:30 AM
Most people rely on a little of both.
Even when it comes to strategy there is little one can plan. You can put yourself in a more advantageous position by knowing how to read physical features and expressions of others playing. You can have your go to tactic that works for you, but at the end of the day you also need to have that sweet luck on your side to make sure your strategy ends up working :D


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: btc-facebook on August 10, 2018, 07:58:22 AM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on August 10, 2018, 10:47:46 AM
For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Not at all. Only people who play poker like they play roulette believe that. Strategy, knowledge and patience are the key factors for making money playing poker long-term. Bad players or fish believe that poker is a matter of luck because they can win in the short-term due to luck, but they lose in the long term for lack of strategy, knowledge and patience. For regular players and pros, it is the other way around.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: kryptqnick on August 10, 2018, 11:07:10 AM
Hey luck and strategy are the two sides of the same coin, you need both to succeed whenever you plan to role the dice. However contrary to the popular belief of using strategies to win, I differ from my personal experiences I have relied more on luck than strategy. The main reason I'm compelled to believe strategies don't work, as I have gambled using all popular one's and have suffered losses. Then I ditched the so called strategies, and gambled purely on luck and reaped good dividends.
Playing skilled games (so not dice) with strategies is a rational thing to do. It can make gambling a profession, a way of earning money, instead of losing it or spending some small amounts for fun. Believing in luck, however, is irrational and cannot make one a professional, unless we are Domino is Deadpool 2. Applying strategies to dice is of course senseless, so one might as well count on luck in such a case. But I think that dice should be used only for recreation, without any hope of winning money this way. And perhaps believing in luck is more safe than using strategies for a bit addicted gamblers, because they can realize that relying on luck is risky, while putting everything on some strategy seems fine and will make them lose more.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 10, 2018, 11:18:49 AM
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
It is a strategy and skill, only few can do this especially if the table is full of tension.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
In other ways, I can see that more gamblers are into this thinking and is courageous to try it as a way to make money.
Most people rely on a little of both.
Likewise.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: ocid on August 10, 2018, 03:36:07 PM
most people who can win games in gambling I think 80% are earned by luck, and only 20% can be done by playing using a mature strategy, but most gamblers can win games based on their luck


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: sheenshane on August 10, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
most people who can win games in gambling I think 80% are earned by luck, and only 20% can be done by playing using a mature strategy, but most gamblers can win games based on their luck
When we say gambling, of course, it is pure luck when you gambled. I would say 50/50 for luck and strategy if you are going to rate these because when you have a good strategy the good luck will follow for sure in gambling skills. Even in dice feature gambling, that is an easy game to do but you need to have a good strategy to defeat the bankroll then much better of a proper balance in gambling to have a good profit.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: harizen on August 10, 2018, 04:31:58 PM
I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

For betting e.g sportsbetting, yes a good strategy is a must. Although still it's not an assurance that we may won out of it, we are increasing our chances to win here. Don't rely on purely luck here for example picking a high odds just because of the big profit in return.

For strategy based games e.g poker, we need luck here hoping for good set of cards but a good way of handling cards can make you win even with bad and worst cards.

For house edge games, no doubt that is all about luck. Those so called strategies applied here are just a way of playing these gambling games thinking it will increase our luck rate.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: wuvdoll on August 10, 2018, 04:52:15 PM
most people who can win games in gambling I think 80% are earned by luck, and only 20% can be done by playing using a mature strategy, but most gamblers can win games based on their luck
When we say gambling, of course, it is pure luck when you gambled. I would say 50/50 for luck and strategy if you are going to rate these because when you have a good strategy the good luck will follow for sure in gambling skills. Even in dice feature gambling, that is an easy game to do but you need to have a good strategy to defeat the bankroll then much better of a proper balance in gambling to have a good profit.
It is funny actually though that I am seeing a lot of people in support of strategy helping them to win in gambling. This is purely centered on luck and sure the only way you can bring about luck into the equation is simply the idea of probability which is still a math of chance anyway and all you are doing is make predictions.

Yes for the likes of martingale, blah blah, anyone without strategy may not even get the next roll, but all these things do not make one to win like you said, they can only help to play the game which someone who is so dumb in strategy anyway can still do so.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Wipro on August 10, 2018, 04:53:47 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Hey luck and strategy are the two sides of the same coin, you need both to succeed whenever you plan to role the dice. However contrary to the popular belief of using strategies to win, I differ from my personal experiences I have relied more on luck than strategy. The main reason I'm compelled to believe strategies don't work, as I have gambled using all popular one's and have suffered losses. Then I ditched the so called strategies, and gambled purely on luck and reaped good dividends.

However you need to try and test, what works best for you, as what works for me may not be the best way to gamble for you, good luck and make a smart choice.


It's completely relay on the game what they pick to make the decision dude. I use to invest on gambling platform but I check multiple time and then only I go to invest on any coins. So many options are worthy and completely relay on luck factor.
Will you invest that kind of complete luck factor investment.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: emberbekas on August 10, 2018, 05:31:29 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Luck is a thing that we don't know until we make actions, while strategy is the way we use to try to get the best result from our actions. So for me, luck and strategy are both important since those two things can't be separated. I use strategies and if I failed that means I am not lucky and vice versa.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Aikidoka on August 10, 2018, 06:32:51 PM
Luck is just an outside energy that has an effect on your actions. If you say it was your lucky day and win lots of money, that is because you were sure and was positive about your win. So, the so-called "luck" would get involved and influence your thought and make it possible. I would say, I believe in strategy, because it is what makes you win or lose. You should always assume your responsibility even if you fail. If you blame it on luck, it will continue to affect your other action, and you will have a bad day. And as Shay Cormac says "I make my own luck."
Try to always stay positive and you will have a good luck!


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Diced90 on August 10, 2018, 07:00:14 PM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !

I agree with you. Gambling does rely on luck for all of the games and strategy can also help in many games but only at the right moments and they won't always work as per the bluffing example above.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: swogerino on August 10, 2018, 07:00:36 PM
Gambling games can be divided into two categories. The games like roulette,dice and slot machines which no matter what strategy you build it will not result effective against the house edge, that is for people who are less literate in mathematics and statistics because people enough literate in those sciences don't usually go play slots except on very rare occasions.

The second category is a category where skill and patience is a major need but also luck is needed although here in really low doses compared to the above. This is poker and sport betting. You can be a master in poker but if you are not patient enough to wait for the good cards you risk to lose money.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: minime0105 on August 10, 2018, 07:09:12 PM
most people who can win games in gambling I think 80% are earned by luck, and only 20% can be done by playing using a mature strategy, but most gamblers can win games based on their luck
When we say gambling, of course, it is pure luck when you gambled. I would say 50/50 for luck and strategy if you are going to rate these because when you have a good strategy the good luck will follow for sure in gambling skills. Even in dice feature gambling, that is an easy game to do but you need to have a good strategy to defeat the bankroll then much better of a proper balance in gambling to have a good profit.

I absolutely agree with you on this with the 50/50 split between luck vs strategy when applied to gambling because one usually doesn't come without the other and even if you play a game that favors strategy the element of luck still exists. Because being realistic those people that own these gambling sites or whatever also need to make a profit.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: samcrypto on August 10, 2018, 07:39:00 PM
most people who can win games in gambling I think 80% are earned by luck, and only 20% can be done by playing using a mature strategy, but most gamblers can win games based on their luck
In gambling even if you use strategies on the game you are playing if its not your lucky day you will still lose the money. Strategies is not winning, those are just your guide in gambling so I really believe that luck really drives the winning performance in gambling because even you have strategies in gambling, you will still lose money.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Zooplus on August 10, 2018, 10:18:11 PM
most people who can win games in gambling I think 80% are earned by luck, and only 20% can be done by playing using a mature strategy, but most gamblers can win games based on their luck
In gambling even if you use strategies on the game you are playing if its not your lucky day you will still lose the money. Strategies is not winning, those are just your guide in gambling so I really believe that luck really drives the winning performance in gambling because even you have strategies in gambling, you will still lose money.
I definitely agree on you.Gambling is not usually measured by the different strategies you have,i believe it's more on pure luck.But i know it would still be an edge from others if you have your own good strategies and considered lucky on that day too.For sure you will go home with huge amount of money in your pocket.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: hahay on August 10, 2018, 10:55:20 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Again, in addition to strategy and luck the main thing that must be had in gambling is experience, if you have all that then you will be more relaxed to play gambling, because emotions when gambling is very volatile :D if you cannot control emotions well then you will play messed up and you can lose. To be able to control emotions well is enough experience. Good luck!


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: sweetbet on August 10, 2018, 11:12:01 PM
It really depends on what game you are referring to. A game like Poker definitely needs a strategy, but a game like slots is 100% pure luck.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Shinpako09 on August 11, 2018, 04:40:07 AM
I believe in both. In gambling you need a strategy to increase your chance of winning and the most you need is luck which is very rare to come in one player. Both are very important for a gambler because it's their key to success.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Wendigo on August 11, 2018, 07:12:31 AM
Well I haven't seen board games like chess or checkers or backgammon where players' skills play a major factor in winning consistently being offered at casinos. I don't think even the best strategist in the world could beat variance in gambling consistently in the long term. Gambling can be so addictive at times because of the possibility to win huge amounts of money without any skills or work involved and that's why so many people are attracted to it. I don't see gambling as a 2nd 'job' to excel at, I already have one. I would have more success being a professional chess player than a professional gambler  ;D


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 11, 2018, 09:14:42 AM
both strategy and luck cannot separate and it's related. maybe in some game, the strategy will have a big part to win the game but still, we need the luck to get a chance to win that game. and for me, as long as I can have a luck, I can win the game and this is base on my experience in a dice game. for the first time, I played the dice game, I don't know how to play but then my friend said that I only need to click the button and it will reveal the number. so I try to click and then I saw a green color which means I win some satoshi. then I continue to play, the green comes out in two or three round but then the red color comes out for two times. so in this game, I would say that luck is needed than the strategy because I don't know the strategy ;D


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Janation on August 11, 2018, 09:56:31 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Luck is a thing that we don't know until we make actions, while strategy is the way we use to try to get the best result from our actions. So for me, luck and strategy are both important since those two things can't be separated. I use strategies and if I failed that means I am not lucky and vice versa.

If you use strategies and you failed that only means one thing, it can't be said that strategies and luck are inseparable since luck is one of the things that you can't be sure of.

You will not know that quickly if you are lucky or you're just having a good time. Having a lucky time and lucky day is a coincident to happen to people so I think you should really rely on your strategy and your knowledge but the best thing I can say is not to gamble at all.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 11, 2018, 12:50:01 PM
I think you must have luck (lots of it) and at the same time, a strategy in order to win.

For games like dices, roulette and others you just need luck and a little bit of strategy maybe but in some games especially card games like poker, you need a strategy in order for you to win.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Fortuna27 on August 11, 2018, 12:51:50 PM
I think you must have luck (lots of it) and at the same time, a strategy in order to win.

For games like dices, roulette and others you just need luck and a little bit of strategy maybe but in some games especially card games like poker, you need a strategy in order for you to win.

True, but poker is not a game of luck, so I guess it doesn't count :)


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: gilangIDR on August 11, 2018, 03:38:21 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
I will assume all things related to gambling are things related to luck. I believe that there is no strategy in gambling games. Gambling games will only be influenced by luck. Personally, I want to say that gambling can destroy the life we ​​have, it's all because of the huge gambling influence with a very strong addiction scheme.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: n0ne on August 11, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
According to the game upon which we get involved the reality of the requirement varies. To me for sports betting strategy about each player gives me a combined outline whether the betting will win or not. Here too lick is required but to some extend. While the same when we get into dice and other form of slot games the luck plays a bigger role even when we make strategies to overcome.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: mikyadel on August 11, 2018, 10:50:17 PM
You need both on your side for sure . i generally don't believe in luck but when it comes to gambling , certainly it plays a huge role especially in games such as dice rolls . in case of games like poker, strategy has more wight than luck .
bottom line , you are gonna need both to minimize your risks.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: dupee419 on August 12, 2018, 05:45:18 AM
Specifically speaking, gambling simply means you are playing, and in a game there are millions of possibilities, strategies are a must when you are playing, and on the other hand, luck comes in with you when your confidence goes up, luck and being strategic is one of your major keys when you are gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: maydna on August 12, 2018, 07:20:35 AM
I agree that dice roll, slot, and poker games need the luck to win the game but maybe in the other gambling game, not just needed luck to win but it will need a strategy because I see that some people use the strategy to win the game and with a combination of luck and strategy, I think they can win much money. but I believe that we must have a luck so we can be winning the game and we can get that winning money.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Betwrong on August 12, 2018, 09:45:51 AM

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

I believe you meant to say sports betting here. Well, although I've heard multiple times that successful sports betting requires knowledge and good strategy I still think it doesn't work like that. The thing is that in sports betting you are playing against other gamblers who have the same knowledge and most likely use similar strategies. In order to earn good from sports betting you have to bet on unpredictable result and win the bet, which is possible only with the help of luck, unless you have some inside info working as a coach or a team doctor.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

There's a big difference between dice/slots and poker games imo. Dice and slots purely depend on luck, while in poker (real online poker, not video poker which is the same as slots) you definitely need some skills in order to play with profit.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: entrepmind23 on August 12, 2018, 10:55:45 AM
I agree that dice roll, slot, and poker games need the luck to win the game but maybe in the other gambling game, not just needed luck to win but it will need a strategy because I see that some people use the strategy to win the game and with a combination of luck and strategy, I think they can win much money. but I believe that we must have a luck so we can be winning the game and we can get that winning money.

For those random games in which you cannot have a strategy on since any result may appear then luck would be the main factor in it since you just cannot count anything unlike in card games. When you play dice, the result maybe anything and even if you may use a martingale strategy in it, there is still a chance of losing big in that kind of game.

Of course in other games wherein you can have an edge like research in sports games and knowing the strong teams then it would not just be a wild guess because you have a basis why you choose that particular team. In this case, a good strategy is an advantage and you can even find maybe an arbitrage so that you know that whatever the result is, you are having profits.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: xuan87 on August 12, 2018, 11:06:54 AM
You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: wxa7115 on August 12, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
You are completely mistaken about the bold part, it is true that you need some luck once in a while in the game of poker since there are times where it seems that all the cards that you need do not come up and yet the cards that your opponent needs always seems to appear, but poker is not a game of luck, poker is a game of skill.

If it was a game of luck then it will be impossible to see poker players as successful as Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan or Phil Hellmuth, while we could say they have needed some sort of luck to get there it is impossible to explain their success with the luck argument, they have skill in the game and they have shown that consistently over the years.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: rickadone on August 13, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
Specifically speaking, gambling simply means you are playing, and in a game there are millions of possibilities, strategies are a must when you are playing, and on the other hand, luck comes in with you when your confidence goes up, luck and being strategic is one of your major keys when you are gambling.
Whoever does not want to take it should leave it, but you are right, there is no way math can help anyone to win in gambling. Yes, any mathematical strategies are not good enough to pass through those millions of possibilities and this is the reason why our gambling strategies are good while theoretical and not withstanding in real world.

This is a game of probability and that is the only way the math part come in, which we all know that probability is the extent to which an event is likely to occur, measured by the ratio of the favorable cases to the whole number of cases possible according to the dictionary, but that does not mean the effect is liable to occur by all means as you are still predicting anyway to an outcome you do not know what the future hold for it.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: LastKiss on August 13, 2018, 01:40:20 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Just like what you said on last sentence, I'm usually play these games which need more luck than strategy so which one I believe ? Luck for sure. It's useless for me to play using automated dice strategy that only have one result afterwards. So till now manual still the best for me when playing dice game   ;)


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: geegaw on August 13, 2018, 02:37:12 PM
You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy
In fact, luck can help us win or not is still a mystery, I even suspect that casinos help us win, they want us to have the belief that victory still exists then we will use more money to gamble, and what they need to do is destroy us on all fronts, a very sophisticated trap. And as I said, the results are already available, so I prefer to have a more strategic, and precisely this strategy helps us live longer in gambling, enjoy the fun instead of looking for a win because we do not have a chance when the casinos track each of our actions


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on August 13, 2018, 05:03:51 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
If you are more lucky then you don't need anything,you will win in the gambling,but strategy have nothing to do in the gambling other than the money and time management which can save you from serious losses but strategies won't give any win in the bets.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: onrise on August 13, 2018, 05:16:50 PM
You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

Many of the games are luck based and strategy does not work in those games. Yes in cards or some other do require strategyz to pull the game on your side and with luck on your side chances of you winning increases.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: gabmen on August 13, 2018, 05:45:43 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Well of course if you were to be given either of the two, then being lucky is much more preferable, though of course we all know realistically that's not possible. Luck will have a big effect even on skill based gambling games.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: panjul07 on August 13, 2018, 08:16:13 PM
You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

Many of the games are luck based and strategy does not work in those games. Yes in cards or some other do require strategyz to pull the game on your side and with luck on your side chances of you winning increases.


I can even say that strategy in gambling is just like a myth. It does exist but it does not work to make people win in gambling. No matter what games we are going to play, luck is still the one that decide the outcome.
I cant deny that I did try and use several strategies when gambling, but it does not mean that I believe in strategy. Not really sure how to say about but in simple word, I use but I dont believe it.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: iMark on August 14, 2018, 02:51:14 AM
You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

Many of the games are luck based and strategy does not work in those games. Yes in cards or some other do require strategyz to pull the game on your side and with luck on your side chances of you winning increases.


I can even say that strategy in gambling is just like a myth. It does exist but it does not work to make people win in gambling. No matter what games we are going to play, luck is still the one that decide the outcome.
I cant deny that I did try and use several strategies when gambling, but it does not mean that I believe in strategy. Not really sure how to say about but in simple word, I use but I dont believe it.
Agree that luck will be the most important thing to determine your win, but in some gambling games your skills, your intelegence, and strategies will also affect the outcome of gambling, for example in poker, of course you can lose if you are not good at strategies for reading the mind of the opponent, changing the perspective of the opponent and so on.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: maydna on August 14, 2018, 04:39:30 AM
I agree that dice roll, slot, and poker games need the luck to win the game but maybe in the other gambling game, not just needed luck to win but it will need a strategy because I see that some people use the strategy to win the game and with a combination of luck and strategy, I think they can win much money. but I believe that we must have a luck so we can be winning the game and we can get that winning money.

For those random games in which you cannot have a strategy on since any result may appear then luck would be the main factor in it since you just cannot count anything unlike in card games. When you play dice, the result maybe anything and even if you may use a martingale strategy in it, there is still a chance of losing big in that kind of game.

Of course in other games wherein you can have an edge like research in sports games and knowing the strong teams then it would not just be a wild guess because you have a basis why you choose that particular team. In this case, a good strategy is an advantage and you can even find maybe an arbitrage so that you know that whatever the result is, you are having profits.

so in this situations, we can have a chance for making a strategy in the sports games especially if we can know which team that has a strong player. so I agree with you that in the sports besides luck, we need to make a strategy which can help us to win. but still, the luck factor will be the determining factor to win in the sports games because if we watch football team, team A has a strong and good player and they are featured in that game than the team B but unfortunately, the fortune is at the team B so team B can win the game. and it also happens in the other sports game that we watch on television.

and I have a result for this, maybe in some games especially in the sports game, we need to make a strategy but in the other game, we don't have to make a strategy and we only depend on our luck to win. and the luck factor will always take the part in the gambling games no matter if it's a sports game or the other gambling games.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: BitcoinCommodor on August 14, 2018, 08:07:19 AM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
There is nothing except luck. If you are lucky someday, better for you and congratulations on advance from such terrific win. But what if the day isn’t lucky? And mostly people aren’t lucky. Then destruction is there waving hands at you and saying hi. Keep it away from you because this would be the last option for a person to say good bye to gambling once he knows about it in first place.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Alfiehob on August 14, 2018, 11:14:59 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Luck is a thing that we don't know until we make actions, while strategy is the way we use to try to get the best result from our actions. So for me, luck and strategy are both important since those two things can't be separated. I use strategies and if I failed that means I am not lucky and vice versa.
I got your point but what I am unable to solve is, in a game which is totally depending on luck, how can someone make strategies to win a certain bet. It is not like making a plan is going to help the gambler in winning a bet. If he is destined to face defeat, no matter how good an analytic he is, he can kiss his money a goodbye. However, limiting number of shots can save him.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: samuland5 on August 14, 2018, 11:33:36 AM
most people who can win games in gambling I think 80% are earned by luck, and only 20% can be done by playing using a mature strategy, but most gamblers can win games based on their luck
Luck is important in gambling no doubt, but I think that if we have some previous experience in gambling then we will surely feel more confident, which can help us in winning the bet. But still most of the gambling games are really depend on our luck.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: hacekd on August 14, 2018, 11:49:19 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
This is the key to winning gambling that you must have. If you want to play gambling you must know about the gambling game you want to play. From knowing about how to play and some other knowledge. this is to avoid you playing monotonously. Because playing without knowledge can bring fatigue to you.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: BeGoods on August 14, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
There is nothing except luck. If you are lucky someday, better for you and congratulations on advance from such terrific win. But what if the day isn’t lucky? And mostly people aren’t lucky. Then destruction is there waving hands at you and saying hi. Keep it away from you because this would be the last option for a person to say good bye to gambling once he knows about it in first place.
Yeah the logic is that if gambling using strategy, the gambling owner will not dare to open a casino or gambling site, because of course expert gambler has a great strategy and of course the chances of profit will be greater for the players right? in fact gambling is just about luck, thats why house wins more often.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Wete on August 14, 2018, 01:06:20 PM
Luck is the best friend when we play gambling, we will win a lot when luck is on our side. Our strategy is needed to control emotions and break down the opponent's concentration. Luck is the main factor. Hopefully luck is always on our side.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: rodskee on August 14, 2018, 01:11:12 PM
Both are helping while playing in gambling and you can add skills and knowledge
If you that combination while playing in gambling i assure you you can got win
But need to set control yourself avoid loses


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: solarion on August 14, 2018, 02:00:46 PM
Luck is the best friend when we play gambling, we will win a lot when luck is on our side. Our strategy is needed to control emotions and break down the opponent's concentration. Luck is the main factor. Hopefully luck is always on our side.

I see luck factor games and strategy factor games are different buddy, if you want to make the money on gambling we need to control the emotion as you said and I agreed that buddy.
If you wan to make the marketplace and circulation to be strong this is one of the way to evolve the coins in the right side.

If the person going behind the luck and make the huge investment finally it will be go to lose only.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Nanot on August 14, 2018, 02:23:11 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
As for me it is not all about luck just to win thegame but strategy to run the game effectively and  win it. Strategy is the most important because it leads into good outcome when it comes to gambling. Strategic thingking and your own strategy was be able to lead into succes not like luck .maybe on the other side they are win but on the other day they will lose. So that an strategy was being impart through all lofe and it will never fail or forgotten. It leada wealth and prosper.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Juliedarwin on August 14, 2018, 02:37:24 PM
Sometimes I believe in luck than the strategy. Because strategy sometimes are not good and play will not comes at the strategy at all rounds. So for me I much better believe the word of LUCK than the strategy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: doomistake on August 14, 2018, 03:15:49 PM
I would say you could never rely on both, because if you are really not for the gambling world, no matter what you do, the result will always be the same, if you lose then you will always lose, meaning that gambling is not the thing for you, just like that. But there are people who have a lot of idea about gambling and not just trying random stuffs like that just because he knew that he could make easy money on gambling, NO, let's not be that kind of person.

Playin gambling is for those people who are mentally strong and knows how to manage themselves in gambling and not just thinking that he could win because there is "LUCK" and "STRATEGY" where he could entrust his money in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: none of us on August 14, 2018, 06:37:37 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
i can only agree with you. right from poker i know it, that one without luck and good cards simply does not get far.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on August 14, 2018, 11:48:31 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Depends on what kind of game you play. If its a dice game where you press a button and wait for a result, then you need luck only, strategy will not work on dice games. If its a card game like poker, you need both Strategy and Luck because you can bluff your way to win in a card game or simply wait for a nice card to win the game.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Soots on August 15, 2018, 02:55:45 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Depends on what kind of game you play. If its a dice game where you press a button and wait for a result, then you need luck only, strategy will not work on dice games. If its a card game like poker, you need both Strategy and Luck because you can bluff your way to win in a card game or simply wait for a nice card to win the game.
Yeah it really depends on how you strategize your game play, but if you're lucky enough to win then it's purely destined. Card games of any other betting games it's important to determine which choice to have or you knew the exact phase of your betting guides. Never tok rush to play in a certain set play, because you might loss all the way.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: geopolisch on August 15, 2018, 05:39:11 AM
I think you must have luck (lots of it) and at the same time, a strategy in order to win.

For games like dices, roulette and others you just need luck and a little bit of strategy maybe but in some games especially card games like poker, you need a strategy in order for you to win.

True, but poker is not a game of luck, so I guess it doesn't count :)
Please don’t use such dramatic and lame excuses. Now you start giving us lectures that how poker is different from gambling. I have never ever listened name of poker other than gambling or in same context. Whenever someone was talking about poker and its negativities, the topic was must about gambling or any related story. So don’t please defined this detrimental game.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: anntlevel on August 15, 2018, 09:48:32 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
You are completely mistaken about the bold part, it is true that you need some luck once in a while in the game of poker since there are times where it seems that all the cards that you need do not come up and yet the cards that your opponent needs always seems to appear, but poker is not a game of luck, poker is a game of skill.

If it was a game of luck then it will be impossible to see poker players as successful as Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan or Phil Hellmuth, while we could say they have needed some sort of luck to get there it is impossible to explain their success with the luck argument, they have skill in the game and they have shown that consistently over the years.
If you ask my honest opinion regarding the game of poker, it would be none different than yours. I also consider poker as a game of skill not of luck. If a person has good cards but does not know the tricks of this game, the cards are useless certainly. Poker is the only gambling game that I can think about when it comes to fun, thrill and applying skills.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: emberbekas on August 15, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
You are completely mistaken about the bold part, it is true that you need some luck once in a while in the game of poker since there are times where it seems that all the cards that you need do not come up and yet the cards that your opponent needs always seems to appear, but poker is not a game of luck, poker is a game of skill.

If it was a game of luck then it will be impossible to see poker players as successful as Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan or Phil Hellmuth, while we could say they have needed some sort of luck to get there it is impossible to explain their success with the luck argument, they have skill in the game and they have shown that consistently over the years.
If you ask my honest opinion regarding the game of poker, it would be none different than yours. I also consider poker as a game of skill not of luck. If a person has good cards but does not know the tricks of this game, the cards are useless certainly. Poker is the only gambling game that I can think about when it comes to fun, thrill and applying skills.

There are skills in poker game and that is why I haven't played it until now because I think I can't play it properly. And I don't think anyone will make poker as their main game if they don't master this game well. Skill will be dominant in poker when there is only one person who master it well while the other players are noobs.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: btctalk4life on August 15, 2018, 11:44:58 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
You are completely mistaken about the bold part, it is true that you need some luck once in a while in the game of poker since there are times where it seems that all the cards that you need do not come up and yet the cards that your opponent needs always seems to appear, but poker is not a game of luck, poker is a game of skill.

If it was a game of luck then it will be impossible to see poker players as successful as Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan or Phil Hellmuth, while we could say they have needed some sort of luck to get there it is impossible to explain their success with the luck argument, they have skill in the game and they have shown that consistently over the years.
If you ask my honest opinion regarding the game of poker, it would be none different than yours. I also consider poker as a game of skill not of luck. If a person has good cards but does not know the tricks of this game, the cards are useless certainly. Poker is the only gambling game that I can think about when it comes to fun, thrill and applying skills.

There are skills in poker game and that is why I haven't played it until now because I think I can't play it properly. And I don't think anyone will make poker as their main game if they don't master this game well. Skill will be dominant in poker when there is only one person who master it well while the other players are noobs.

Uh there are many pro poker players out ther like daniel negreanu and they can even earn a living by playing poker competitive. Skill, strategy and luck are important on gambling including poker too.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: dupee419 on August 15, 2018, 01:21:10 PM
BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: JanpriX on August 15, 2018, 02:19:18 PM
We are talking about gambling here so I must say we just need to believe in our luck and don't put our hopes up of winning through strategy. This opinion is based from my own experiences so this will probably be different from the others. From what I can remember, I always lose when I try to use some "strategy" in gambling and I won significant amount of money if I just put everything in luck. This also prevents me in getting my hopes up while gambling and limiting myself to just have fun and don't be greedy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Finestream on August 15, 2018, 04:10:34 PM
We are talking about gambling here so I must say we just need to believe in our luck and don't put our hopes up of winning through strategy. This opinion is based from my own experiences so this will probably be different from the others. From what I can remember, I always lose when I try to use some "strategy" in gambling and I won significant amount of money if I just put everything in luck. This also prevents me in getting my hopes up while gambling and limiting myself to just have fun and don't be greedy.
Well,what works for you may not work with others too.Although i believe that gambling is mainly based on pure luck,i think having both strategy and luck may give you more chances to win.Even if you're not lucky all the time but as long as you have your own special strategy to win,then maybe it would be possible too.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: earnadoge on August 15, 2018, 04:23:41 PM
I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing.  Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge.  A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more.  In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one.  And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured.  Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit.  These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.    


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: el kaka22 on August 15, 2018, 06:04:01 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
A bit of both but mainly luck. I mean luck gets you wins, strategy gets you less losses. I can gamble for 10 hours straight with 10 dollars and not run out of money, that is strategy to me. However if I want to gamble with 10 dollars and make it to 100 dollars than that is luck. So, it depends on what you want from gambling, making money or having fun ?

If you want to have fun than there are strategies that will help you good results as in not lose too quickly but if you want to make money from gambling than you need to have lady luck on your side to help you with some good returns that is out of the house edge and to your side.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: KenChanYu on August 16, 2018, 03:23:46 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
A bit of both but mainly luck. I mean luck gets you wins, strategy gets you less losses. I can gamble for 10 hours straight with 10 dollars and not run out of money, that is strategy to me. However if I want to gamble with 10 dollars and make it to 100 dollars than that is luck. So, it depends on what you want from gambling, making money or having fun ?

If you want to have fun than there are strategies that will help you good results as in not lose too quickly but if you want to make money from gambling than you need to have lady luck on your side to help you with some good returns that is out of the house edge and to your side.
It's good to have that luck at our side, but don't expect it to be yours all the time. We might loss our bets most of the time, and that strategy for whatever brilliant it is has no assurance. Just enjoy and have fun, because lucky winnings can be a secondary scenario that will be acquired from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Fatanut on August 16, 2018, 04:56:25 AM
I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing.  Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge.  A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more.  In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one.  And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured.  Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit.  These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.   
The thing is, there's a tendency that you get tremendous amount of reds/losses so you're going to need a bankroll that's enormously larger than your base bet as your bets are increasing exponentially. Any strategy will only work with unlimited bankroll and unlimited bet amount. This is simply impossible because no one has unlimited bankroll, for one. Secondly, most gambling sites have a limit on the bet amount but then again someone can't have unlimited bankroll, thus, no unlimited bet amount.

It's just not worth betting with so much money for so little gains while exposing yourself to the tendency of losing it all once you've hit the maximum losing streak your bankroll can cover.

~snip~
Uh there are many pro poker players out ther like daniel negreanu and they can even earn a living by playing poker competitive. Skill, strategy and luck are important on gambling including poker too.
And you know this because? You have watched him on TV, right? The things that you see in TV aren't the same things in real life. Competitive poker has so much cut so that what they are going to air are interesting rounds. In real life, they fold so much until both the opponents have good cards and are ready to play big. You can be right, that you can earn a living by playing poker. On the other hand, you are not a professional poker player and you don't get paid to play in a casino. You are just a regular player holding on nothing but luck and strategy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Symphonized on August 16, 2018, 04:59:17 AM
I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing.  Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge.  A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more.  In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one.  And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured.  Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit.  These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.    

Well then you have just failed on probabilistics calculations and how to gamble properly.
I have tons of strategies made by myself on excel and they work always when my rolls are ready to use them.
By ready i mean when i see my rolls history and predict them, that's how im in a positive side ;)
Also you need to use each strategy with low profits as possible, meaning, high red streaks possibility and low profit overall.
Everything above by counting on using a strategy not MORE then 20 minutes or a certain specific roll count.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: crwth on August 16, 2018, 06:07:16 AM
I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing.  Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge.  A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more.  In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one.  And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured.  Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit.  These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.    

Well then you have just failed on probabilistics calculations and how to gamble properly.
I have tons of strategies made by myself on excel and they work always when my rolls are ready to use them.
By ready i mean when i see my rolls history and predict them, that's how im in a positive side ;)
Also you need to use each strategy with low profits as possible, meaning, high red streaks possibility and low profit overall.
Everything above by counting on using a strategy not MORE then 20 minutes or a certain specific roll count.
I haven’t thought about it to input my strategies in an excel file and I guess it would really be helpful especially the statistics on how much you have to gamble, how much to win and using the strategy and other stuff because with that data, you could improve the gameplay and that’s awesome. The time constraint is very critical in my opinion.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: maydna on August 16, 2018, 07:25:15 AM
BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.

strategy and luck are related in the gambling game but the luck gets the high place than the strategies, and we should always know that without luck, we cannot be the winner. and if you don't have a good strategy, it's no problem as long as you have your luck in the game so you will win the game. we don't have to be a strategic but we need to have luck in our side.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: futureofeth on August 16, 2018, 07:33:25 AM
I don't believe in the strategy because gambling is always based on the luck, i never won any gambling through strategy. Gamblers will make money through blind guessing only and through logic, it is impossible to make money.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Sukut on August 16, 2018, 08:58:36 AM
BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.
strategy and luck are related in the gambling game but the luck gets the high place than the strategies, and we should always know that without luck, we cannot be the winner. and if you don't have a good strategy, it's no problem as long as you have your luck in the game so you will win the game. we don't have to be a strategic but we need to have luck in our side.
I agree with you. Strategies or skills are nothing without luck. Maybe, you have a good strategy and good skills but if you don't have luck, your skills and strategies don't count.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Domicbora on August 16, 2018, 10:01:18 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
This is the key to winning gambling that you must have. If you want to play gambling you must know about the gambling game you want to play. From knowing about how to play and some other knowledge. this is to avoid you playing monotonously. Because playing without knowledge can bring fatigue to you.
And you know that is such harmful game that is called gambling in your terms. Why people are advising others to get engaged in such activities. Why they don’t know the pros are about negligible while cons are numerous. This game is all based on destruction so whoever would get involved there must be ruining his life. Don’t advise your brother to get to execution in this way.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: earnadoge on August 16, 2018, 12:45:39 PM
I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing.  Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge.  A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more.  In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one.  And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured.  Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit.  These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.    

Well then you have just failed on probabilistics calculations and how to gamble properly.
I have tons of strategies made by myself on excel and they work always when my rolls are ready to use them.
By ready i mean when i see my rolls history and predict them, that's how im in a positive side ;)
Also you need to use each strategy with low profits as possible, meaning, high red streaks possibility and low profit overall.
Everything above by counting on using a strategy not MORE then 20 minutes or a certain specific roll count.

Sounds like short term strategies, I couldn't find something where you can wager your bank over and over with an advantage.  No hand limits, no time limits, just wager massive amounts with little edge, that I couldn't find after a year.  Triggers, cut offs, stop losses, nothing could withstand infinity, or be guaranteed in short term.
There is lots of good stuff for short term play in simulation, and I had a lot of fun. 


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: BabyBoss on August 16, 2018, 12:51:38 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
I believe in strategy because we can also use that way to win and I also believe in luck because it is more effective to have than strategy although we can use strategy but we can deny that luck is better.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: SushiMonster on August 18, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
I’m not really confident about luck. You’ll never really know what the dice or card will show you, unless of course it’s scripted and the game is scamming you. I’d rather stick to strategy. With this, you’ll increase your thinking capability and will be able to have an open mind to whatever may happen.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Gadhoh on August 18, 2018, 01:24:19 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Yes, in any gambling strategy and tactics are always used, we don't know about luck, it can be said to be pure, because to get good luck is not that easy even though the strategy has been run, but often the victory is always present at the gambling that I play


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 18, 2018, 02:18:51 PM
BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.
Both of them are indeed needed for gambling but I think luck is more needed than strategy. Even a gambler who doesn't have strategy can win in a gamble if they have luck of their side. On the other side, even the strategic gambler can lose if they are not lucky so for me, luck plays a bigger role in gambling compare to strategy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 18, 2018, 02:46:47 PM
BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.
Both of them are indeed needed for gambling but I think luck is more needed than strategy. Even a gambler who doesn't have strategy can win in a gamble if they have luck of their side. On the other side, even the strategic gambler can lose if they are not lucky so for me, luck plays a bigger role in gambling compare to strategy.

Though the problem in there is that you can't really call in the "luck" since no one ever knows how luck rolls in. A lot of gamblers says that if you are straightly winning a game, you are lucky but what if that is just a coincidence. But luck or not, as long as you are not using all of your money into gambling, that is better than hoping to win on gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Lady Coquet on August 18, 2018, 03:20:43 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
I believe that gambling is in both strategy and luck because everytime in a gambling game even it is a dice game, slot game, or card game you always used strategy and luck at the same time for you to win the prize money.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: BitBustah on August 18, 2018, 03:33:10 PM
There may be a few strategies that give you a slight advantage but it mostly comes down to luck.  Everything in this world comes down to luck : Where you were born, who your parents are, good health, and gambling.

However I would make an exception with Sports betting and Poker.  These require skill and knowledge if you want to be successful.

Games such as roulette, dice, blackjack, craps, slots, etc all come down to luck and there really isn't anything you can do to boost the odds.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: AMNA NAZ on August 18, 2018, 04:00:47 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
I believe that gambling is in both strategy and luck because everytime in a gambling game even it is a dice game, slot game, or card game you always used strategy and luck at the same time for you to win the prize money.
Both luck and strategies are important in every format of gambling. even in dice game where we totally depend on our luck but still we need to have good strategy and planning for playing  dice game, which can be too much helpful in preventing ourselves from a big lost and making a good money.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: gabmen on August 18, 2018, 04:20:35 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
I believe that gambling is in both strategy and luck because everytime in a gambling game even it is a dice game, slot game, or card game you always used strategy and luck at the same time for you to win the prize money.
Both luck and strategies are important in every format of gambling. even in dice game where we totally depend on our luck but still we need to have good strategy and planning for playing  dice game, which can be too much helpful in preventing ourselves from a big lost and making a good money.

Luck's not really important in games like poker though of course it can change  the outcome but that doesn't happen on a consistent basis for usbto believe it's important. But who wouldn't want to be lucky right? It's just that lack of luck can be compensated with skill and strategy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: izanagi narukami on August 18, 2018, 05:47:24 PM
Both of them require effort to achieve the profit.
  • Strategy, you need learn by doing. Need the process !
  • Luck , if you keep consistent do it, the profit will come upon you !

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However I would make an exception with Sports betting and Poker.  These require skill and knowledge if you want to be successful.

Games such as roulette, dice, blackjack, craps, slots, etc all come down to luck and there really isn't anything you can do to boost the odds.

I agree, just make sure that you're play on legit place because I'm ever heard that poker was being cheat although they can win.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Saveplus on August 19, 2018, 01:05:25 AM
I think playing in gambling requirea a luck.We are not sure it is only a guess when we play but if you are an expert  and know some startegy it depends on your mindset.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on August 19, 2018, 07:43:18 AM
For dice gambling, I just believe if someone wants to get money in dice gambling he will depend on luck. I haven't found yet a special specification for a strategy when playing dice, just role and see you got win or you got loses. Unless you bet on a match like soccer or other games that you only bet, I guess you need a strategy to understand the team that you are betting on.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: coinplus on August 19, 2018, 08:10:40 AM
I haven't found yet a special specification for a strategy when playing dice, just role and see you got win or you got loses.
Not just you, most of us haven't found any effective strategy to crack the dicing. Luck is the only weapon in front of us to fight against gambling houses. I have tried few strategies in dicing but none of them helped me to come out with profits. Probably I may not good in where to finish but my conclusion is dicing is not designed to get us profits but to entertain us. Hence, looking for strategies for it, just a waste of time.

Unless you bet on a match like soccer or other games that you only bet, I guess you need a strategy to understand the team that you are betting on.
Sports betting is the only type of gambling where we need strategies as well as luck. Yes, I was good in analyzing few sports still only 6 out of 10 of my prediction alone gives me profits and when I look for the reason, I concluded analysis is only 60% and the rest are our luck factor.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Betwrong on August 19, 2018, 08:38:03 AM
I’m not really confident about luck. You’ll never really know what the dice or card will show you, unless of course it’s scripted and the game is scamming you. I’d rather stick to strategy. With this, you’ll increase your thinking capability and will be able to have an open mind to whatever may happen.

It is impossible to stick to a strategy unless this strategy is to constrain yourself to a certain amount of bets or to limit your daily losses. You are right, you can't count on luck, but what you are missing here is that you can't count on any strategy either, just exactly because luck is a key factor in any game.

It's true that some good strategies can help you to improve your performance in poker, for example, but we should never forget that any strategy can be crashed down by bad luck, and we have to be always ready for that.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Janation on August 19, 2018, 09:18:42 AM
I think playing in gambling requirea a luck.We are not sure it is only a guess when we play but if you are an expert  and know some startegy it depends on your mindset.

It is not a requirement but you need it in your gambling though you won't know whether you are lucky or not since there are a lot of times that gamblers thought they are lucky but in the end, they lost what they have won.

I do not how can we say a gambler is an expert since even though that gambler is an expert, there is no way that he will be able to win every single gambling games he will be doing.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Ramtapsbtc on August 19, 2018, 09:47:16 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
I definitely agree with this, strategy and luck play a vital role when it comes to gambling. You should have also set a limit to your winnings and don't be too greedy. Luck will only there for a moment.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: hahay on August 19, 2018, 10:29:05 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Both are needed in gambling, I often experience both sports and casino gambling such as poker, blackjack, roulette and dice. An experience that made me aware of the tactics of luck. We cannot just rely on a good strategy, besides that we must expect luck to be in us while playing. Even though you have used the best strategy you normally use in the game but if you are not lucky you will lose too.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: iv4n on August 19, 2018, 11:11:12 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Both are needed in gambling, I often experience both sports and casino gambling such as poker, blackjack, roulette and dice. An experience that made me aware of the tactics of luck. We cannot just rely on a good strategy, besides that we must expect luck to be in us while playing. Even though you have used the best strategy you normally use in the game but if you are not lucky you will lose too.

In long term we meet with both of them very often, sometimes our win depends on luck, sometimes on tactics, but to survive in gambling for years we need them both, more often is always better for our bankroll.
Enduring in gambling is only possible if we win more than we lose, to win more we need more luck, better tactic every time, but that's not something you order, you need to try one thing, if it's not working to try something different, and more strategies you are able to combine in your game play more chances you have for getting hit by the luck and with that to get hit by some big win. Luck is a product of trying, more trying more chances for luck to find you, trying should be tactical and to not fall in some trap you need to combine strategies as much as you can, play aggressive, play calm, choose a moment for attacking and know when to chill and take a break.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: iMark on August 19, 2018, 12:49:24 PM
BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.
Both of them are indeed needed for gambling but I think luck is more needed than strategy. Even a gambler who doesn't have strategy can win in a gamble if they have luck of their side. On the other side, even the strategic gambler can lose if they are not lucky so for me, luck plays a bigger role in gambling compare to strategy.
Lol thats absoultely right, you can say that gambling might need both, but even people who don't have a strategy they can get big
profits in gamble, I know the strategy needs in some gambling game, but the most decisive to win is your luck mate


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: agentx44 on August 19, 2018, 02:14:28 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Gambling is in both strategy and luck because  in every game you always make a strategy and you need luck for you to win in every game especially in card games it is both important. Gamblers always expect goodluck everytime they enter the casino and always think strategies for them to win.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 19, 2018, 02:45:11 PM
BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.
Both of them are indeed needed for gambling but I think luck is more needed than strategy. Even a gambler who doesn't have strategy can win in a gamble if they have luck of their side. On the other side, even the strategic gambler can lose if they are not lucky so for me, luck plays a bigger role in gambling compare to strategy.
Lol thats absoultely right, you can say that gambling might need both, but even people who don't have a strategy they can get big
profits in gamble, I know the strategy needs in some gambling game, but the most decisive to win is your luck mate

Bht I think that is the huge problems of the gamblers since they never know if they are just having a long streak of wins or they are really lucky. That is right that even if you have no strategy you can still win a game, but I guess combining these two is far more better


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: hulla on August 19, 2018, 09:20:43 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
Like the OP said concerning dice,poker games etc what we need is luck but the samething apply to other type of gamble because there have been a lot of gambling systems and strategies which were developed over the years and most of them don’t work. However, any gambler who manage to create a good winning strategy usually keep it to themselves.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: BCTBF on August 19, 2018, 09:54:18 PM
For dice gambling, I just believe if someone wants to get money in dice gambling he will depend on luck. I haven't found yet a special specification for a strategy when playing dice, just role and see you got win or you got loses. Unless you bet on a match like soccer or other games that you only bet, I guess you need a strategy to understand the team that you are betting on.
You must have lots of acquaintances at gambling. Playing dice is a strategy, you can read the movements of the previous dice before betting, if you play x2 then it's easy, you just have to predict how many numbers the dice will come out after -50% down, if the dice has issued the number several times then you can put Your bet is up or +50%. That's just a simple strategy that must be known in dice games.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 19, 2018, 11:40:31 PM
I think playing in gambling requirea a luck.We are not sure it is only a guess when we play but if you are an expert  and know some startegy it depends on your mindset.
It requires luck for those luck based games but not all of the time. Mindset is okay if you'll play with those games that needs analysis.

But to make it short why not have both luck and strategy on your side?


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: btcdevil on August 19, 2018, 11:47:26 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

For sports betting you need both strategy, analysis and some luck, but in dice roll,slot roll or you can say casino here you need purely luck as no strategy works. In poker when playing against real players then i think changing strategy and some luck just like sports betting will work out.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Betwrong on August 20, 2018, 10:48:20 AM
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Enduring in gambling is only possible if we win more than we lose,

No. It's been discussed here numerous times. Some people, including me, don't gamble chasing profits, but for the fun of the game itself. You don't need to win more than you lose. You just need to lose less than what you can call a significant amount for you.

to win more we need more luck,

That's right, but it doesn't depend on us at all. We can't do anything to increase our luck.


better tactic every time, but that's not something you order, you need to try one thing, if it's not working to try something different, and more strategies you are able to combine in your game play more chances you have for getting hit by the luck and with that to get hit by some big win. Luck is a product of trying, more trying more chances for luck to find you, trying should be tactical and to not fall in some trap you need to combine strategies as much as you can, play aggressive, play calm, choose a moment for attacking and know when to chill and take a break.

Imo most tactics/strategies, with the exception of poker(from my experience) and maybe sports betting(from what I've heard) only give you an illusion that you can increase your win chance with them. And no, luck is not a product of trying. That's why it is called luck, you can hit the jackpot on the very first try and at the same time you can never hit it however hard you try.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: AMNA NAZ on August 20, 2018, 12:00:00 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

For sports betting you need both strategy, analysis and some luck, but in dice roll,slot roll or you can say casino here you need purely luck as no strategy works. In poker when playing against real players then i think changing strategy and some luck just like sports betting will work out.
yes in dice and slots we need to have luck, where we fully depend on our luck, but i think that still in dice gambling we must have to prepare a good strategy which can be too much helpful in making money from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: LastKiss on August 20, 2018, 01:26:23 PM
I think playing in gambling requirea a luck.We are not sure it is only a guess when we play but if you are an expert  and know some startegy it depends on your mindset.
It requires luck for those luck based games but not all of the time. Mindset is okay if you'll play with those games that needs analysis.

But to make it short why not have both luck and strategy on your side?

Some gamblers wont waste their time to planning some strategy which in the end the startegy is useless, you know gamblers want to earn huge money in instant so rather put their time on strategy they chose to play non strategy games instead.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: krishnaverma on August 20, 2018, 01:53:36 PM
Some gamblers wont waste their time to planning some strategy which in the end the startegy is useless, you know gamblers want to earn huge money in instant so rather put their time on strategy they chose to play non strategy games instead.

You are right about this :

1) Majority of gamblers are doing this casually. They already have other sources of income.

2) For someone, looking to make money with certainty in gambling, developing a strategy is very important. In fact, all the focus should be on learning initially. Some people are born with talent for this but with regular practice you can even bet them as you start realizing patterns and common mistakes of other players.




Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: btctalk4life on August 20, 2018, 02:02:43 PM
Some gamblers wont waste their time to planning some strategy which in the end the startegy is useless, you know gamblers want to earn huge money in instant so rather put their time on strategy they chose to play non strategy games instead.

You are right about this :

1) Majority of gamblers are doing this casually. They already have other sources of income.

2) For someone, looking to make money with certainty in gambling, developing a strategy is very important. In fact, all the focus should be on learning initially. Some people are born with talent for this but with regular practice you can even bet them as you start realizing patterns and common mistakes of other players.


Is bankroll management also called strategy? Because i saw some professional gamblers do this, using "unit" to bet and i think it's a good strategy.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: geopolisch on August 21, 2018, 06:18:48 AM
I think you must have luck (lots of it) and at the same time, a strategy in order to win.

For games like dices, roulette and others you just need luck and a little bit of strategy maybe but in some games especially card games like poker, you need a strategy in order for you to win.

True, but poker is not a game of luck, so I guess it doesn't count :)
Please don’t use such dramatic and lame excuses. Now you start giving us lectures that how poker is different from gambling. I have never ever listened name of poker other than gambling or in same context. Whenever someone was talking about poker and its negativities, the topic was must about gambling or any related story. So don’t please defined this detrimental game.
Indeed, poker is a gambling game and using it for changing the perspective of people or promoting gambling is also wrong but I don’t think that anyone tried to do so. I am also a big hater of gambling but this does not stop me from saying the truth about poker. Poker is entirely different from other games. It is not only about luck for poker players. They need skills in order to win.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: maydna on August 21, 2018, 06:35:51 AM
I think playing in gambling requirea a luck.We are not sure it is only a guess when we play but if you are an expert  and know some startegy it depends on your mindset.
It requires luck for those luck based games but not all of the time. Mindset is okay if you'll play with those games that needs analysis.

But to make it short why not have both luck and strategy on your side?

Some gamblers wont waste their time to planning some strategy which in the end the startegy is useless, you know gamblers want to earn huge money in instant so rather put their time on strategy they chose to play non strategy games instead.

maybe some gambler is depended on their luck only to win the game and they don't have any strategy in that game. I hear that they prefer to play with a random strategy than to make one or two strategies and stick to that strategy because they know that they still need a luck to win. and they cannot use the same strategy all day long. but maybe it will depend on the game itself and only the gambler that will know what they need to do.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: hulla on August 21, 2018, 05:26:24 PM
I think playing in gambling requirea a luck.We are not sure it is only a guess when we play but if you are an expert  and know some startegy it depends on your mindset.
It requires luck for those luck based games but not all of the time. Mindset is okay if you'll play with those games that needs analysis.

But to make it short why not have both luck and strategy on your side?

Some gamblers wont waste their time to planning some strategy which in the end the startegy is useless, you know gamblers want to earn huge money in instant so rather put their time on strategy they chose to play non strategy games instead.
As Batang bitcoin said putting both strategy and luck together will be fine but ones also need to balance it together because strategy might create a wrong move while ones need to follow his/her instinct. If it up to me, I never believe much in strategy because none of the previous strategy yield good result.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: checkmatesir on August 28, 2018, 12:38:51 PM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
May be but not in every gambling game. For example if you are going to bet on cricket matches or  football matches or on any other sports games there you need to use a good strategy, planning and limit. While in some gambling games lice dice, there you only  depend on your luck.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: NewCryptocasinos on August 28, 2018, 01:04:17 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

In Poker and Sports betting i believe in research and skills + a bit of luck
when it comes to slots, dices , well then its all about having fun and tons of luck .)


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 28, 2018, 02:28:46 PM
I think playing in gambling requirea a luck.We are not sure it is only a guess when we play but if you are an expert  and know some startegy it depends on your mindset.
It requires luck for those luck based games but not all of the time. Mindset is okay if you'll play with those games that needs analysis.

But to make it short why not have both luck and strategy on your side?

Some gamblers wont waste their time to planning some strategy which in the end the startegy is useless, you know gamblers want to earn huge money in instant so rather put their time on strategy they chose to play non strategy games instead.
As Batang bitcoin said putting both strategy and luck together will be fine but ones also need to balance it together because strategy might create a wrong move while ones need to follow his/her instinct. If it up to me, I never believe much in strategy because none of the previous strategy yield good result.
Luck and strategy comes together in gambling but I don't think gamblers need to balance it. In my opinion, strategy is needed but gamblers need more luck because even you have the best strategy if you have lack of luck its useless so for me, its better to have more luck and less strategy compare to balance it.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: xIIImaL on August 28, 2018, 08:06:53 PM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
May be but not in every gambling game. For example if you are going to bet on cricket matches or  football matches or on any other sports games there you need to use a good strategy, planning and limit. While in some gambling games lice dice, there you only  depend on your luck.


Can we get the luck and strategy involved games in gambling platform? I am looking for such bounty campaigns in the market. So far we need to get the profit in gambling unfortunately we are not able to achieve that many times.
This is really worth to invest on the ICO projects than gambling I feel. It is the place to loose the money nothing we can do with it bro.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Finestream on August 28, 2018, 10:04:49 PM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
May be but not in every gambling game. For example if you are going to bet on cricket matches or  football matches or on any other sports games there you need to use a good strategy, planning and limit. While in some gambling games lice dice, there you only  depend on your luck.

I think strategy and luck should always go together for you to make profit always but i guess it does not always happen.If you only have good strategies,it does not guarantee you to win in gambling.Most of the time luck has really an edge over strategy knowing gambling is more on chances rather than skills.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: iMark on August 29, 2018, 04:49:13 AM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
May be but not in every gambling game. For example if you are going to bet on cricket matches or  football matches or on any other sports games there you need to use a good strategy, planning and limit. While in some gambling games lice dice, there you only  depend on your luck.

I think strategy and luck should always go together for you to make profit always but i guess it does not always happen.If you only have good strategies,it does not guarantee you to win in gambling.Most of the time luck has really an edge over strategy knowing gambling is more on chances rather than skills.
Yeah even though you have a good strategy then if your luck is bad you will still get lose dude, because the most decisive
thing is luck, but the strategy in some games is indeed to give you more chance to win


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: onrise on August 29, 2018, 05:21:21 AM
If you are playing the game which does not require any strategy than luck is what you need in such games to win it. But if you are playing where both of the things are require than without luck only strategy does not work at times or help you to win it.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: maydna on August 29, 2018, 06:55:12 AM
I think if one gambler cannot make a good strategy, then he can depend on his luck and he should believe that with having a luck, he can win the game with ease. but he cannot always get the luck in the gambling games because no one will know when the luck will come to us. but it is better if he doesn't think about the strategy and the luck and he only wants to enjoy the games and he knows that to win the game, it is very difficult to every gambler and he should know when he needs to leave the games.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: BeGoods on August 29, 2018, 04:05:42 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

For sports betting you need both strategy, analysis and some luck, but in dice roll,slot roll or you can say casino here you need purely luck as no strategy works. In poker when playing against real players then i think changing strategy and some luck just like sports betting will work out.
In some gambling games strategies need to be done to increase the chances of winning, as in poker you don't just depend on luck, but you need a plan and strategy to defeat your opponents with the cards you have. in sports betting too, you need research teams that compete to choose what you will bet


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: el kaka22 on August 29, 2018, 05:57:28 PM
Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !
May be but not in every gambling game. For example if you are going to bet on cricket matches or  football matches or on any other sports games there you need to use a good strategy, planning and limit. While in some gambling games lice dice, there you only  depend on your luck.
Right, the fact remains that luck is a huge factor in any gambling and even though it may be needed hugely in some form of gambling than the others, it is still one factor we just cannot rule out. Sports betting for instance can still be done by trying to analyze the possibilities of the outcome of a match based on some factors, which could actually always end up right but most times, you are just at the mercy of the future anyway as things can change. This is one case we cannot see with other forms of gambling like roulette, dice, and so on.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Sukut on August 30, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
Depends on your specialty and your hobby on where you really are good at.

But in generalize, having these two factors luck and strategy to make money somehow though there are times that you can't make much.

If I play poker, I don't play without saying that I need luck all of the time whether I have an unpredicted moves while in the table.
Some of games like poker, you need a good strategy as much as luck, if you trust only your luck you can come away empty handed.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Symphonized on August 30, 2018, 10:15:12 PM
I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing.  Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge.  A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more.  In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one.  And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured.  Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit.  These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.    

Well then you have just failed on probabilistics calculations and how to gamble properly.
I have tons of strategies made by myself on excel and they work always when my rolls are ready to use them.
By ready i mean when i see my rolls history and predict them, that's how im in a positive side ;)
Also you need to use each strategy with low profits as possible, meaning, high red streaks possibility and low profit overall.
Everything above by counting on using a strategy not MORE then 20 minutes or a certain specific roll count.
I haven’t thought about it to input my strategies in an excel file and I guess it would really be helpful especially the statistics on how much you have to gamble, how much to win and using the strategy and other stuff because with that data, you could improve the gameplay and that’s awesome. The time constraint is very critical in my opinion.

Yes and that's how i profit way more now then before.
These data provide me a better / reliable strategies for the future.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on August 30, 2018, 10:39:25 PM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.
I think its 70% Strategy and 30% Luck depends on the situation. Imagine if you are on a poker table and you are holding a very bad card, you rely on both, you try to bluff your way to win with a bad card and you need to have a great amount of luck that the other player will believe that what you are holding is highers than what he is holding.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on August 31, 2018, 12:49:41 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Everyone has their own strategy and their way . if I myself prefer and are more fortunate if I play with a small value and a long time. and sometimes losing a streak might bring emotions to be impatient. but that is actually the challenge.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: goaldigger on August 31, 2018, 05:00:42 AM
Gambling is a hundred percent luck. Strategy dont work here unless you want to cheat and break the system. You have no datas and charts to analyze and decisions are made based on nothing but a hunch. Winning combinations are choose randomly without any codes to follow. So if youre a lucky guy, do gambling then.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: Ewinsane on August 31, 2018, 07:35:13 AM
Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

In Poker and Sports betting i believe in research and skills + a bit of luck
when it comes to slots, dices , well then its all about having fun and tons of luck .)
True! I like the way you have put all those, but for the one you will mainly be using research and skills, I would rather tend towards sports betting than poker instead.

Sure, you may need some skills to know when to be making some calls in poker which most of it has to do with studying your opponents anyway, but at the same time, it still all balls down to luck eventually. You may have the skill, but end up not getting lucky since you are all fighting for the same thing and someone just have to win.


Title: Re: Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck
Post by: boyptc on August 31, 2018, 09:42:41 AM
I believe in both and there are certain games where its more applicable to have luck and strategy, its a matter of game choice.