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What if we lost following your advice? Do you offer compensation?

50% per week seems legit

George Soros returned an average of 30.5% per year between 1969 and 2000

I always thought a monkey could do better.

I am investing £5000, if I gain 50% per week and reinvest my earnings in one year I will have £7 trillion 173 billion 241 million 877 thousand 408 pounds

I look forward to being a partner in your trillion dollar hedge fund

sorry may i ask how you got a figure of 7 TRILLION. you would not make £1million let alone 7 TRILLION on a investment of £5000.

i have posted links where two companies rose nearly 100% in a week. george soros invest billions not £5000. if he invests 1 billion and gives a return of 305m that is great.

may i ask do you trade the markets?

You said we could make 50% per week.

After week 1 I have £7500
2 I have £11250
3 I have £16875
4 I have £25,312.50

and so on.

By the end of 52 weeks I have several trillion pounds.

Put it into a calculator, 52 periods of 50% interest

You'll end up with £ 7,173,241,877,408.58

I can't wait.

Please start giving us these stock tips to make 50% per week

You said we could make 50% per week.

After week 1 I have £7500
2 I have £11250
3 I have £16875
4 I have £25,312.50

and so on.

By the end of 52 weeks I have several trillion pounds.

Put it into a calculator, 52 periods of 50% interest

You'll end up with £ 7,173,241,877,408.58

I can't wait.

Please start giving us these stock tips to make 50% per week

This is an old scam

He gives 2000 people a horse racing tip. 500 people each get a different tip

500 bet correctly

He gives those 500 a new set of tips

125 bet correctly

he gives those 125 a new set of tips

30 bet correctly

Then he starts charging per tip


etc etc

do you offer investment advice on coins too?

sorry no. coins are very volatile and majority of coins are victims of pumps and dumps. it is possible to make money on coins but risk is too high. its great as a long term investment. coins can easily be manipulated so its difficult to know if the rise will hold.

how much money can i make?

the amount you make varies as stock market is full of surprises. i have been trading for 1.5 years now and on average have been making around 50% a week, on a investment of £6000. £3000 a week is achievable wit much less risk. it is possible to make 100% on one trade but you may need to hold a little longer maybe a 2 week hold. last week is a good example company snoozebox rose 120% code ZZZ. with a amount of $8000 it would not be good to have your investment in one place so the max i would want you to invest would be around $4000. so on a $4000 investment you would make $4800 profit. churchill mining was another that rose 80% on tuesday. that was a 5 day hold. profit again there on $4000 would be $3200. so in a 1.5 weeks your profit would be $8000. this is on a really good week. on average your return would be 50% profit of your investment so $2000 is very possible with a $8000 investment in more than 1 stock.

how much is the maximum investment i can make?

maximum investment varies depending on how liquid the stock is.

i have traded forex and binary but didn't give a thought to buying stocks, looking to make around $2000 a week with a investment of $8000 is that possible.

yes i've answered that above

we will be chatting through ICQ. i will be online during market hours to update you regularly

i will assume this post void as your previous calculations are to be laughed at.

there is no  money sent upfront plus sheldor i have posted tips already

the offer is basically where i give you investment advice in return you pay me 50% profits. all i need you to do from your end i buy and sell when i say. you only pay me when you have profited once i have been sent my cut i will send you the next advice.

what you need
Minimum funds required £1500
a broker account that will let you trade on UK markets
remember you do not send me any money. you fund your broker account and do as i say and send me my cut.

an example of what you could make

google.co.uk/finance?q=LON:DOR


£1500 you would have made £750 profit after my cut you are left with £375 for 8 hours work.

if interested PM me

i have been trading for 1.5 years now and on average have been making around 50% a week, on a investment of £6000.

maximum investment varies depending on how liquid the stock is.

I think you explained it best why is it not possible. If the person offering this has even £100 they would be doing it themselves. This way other person is taking all the risks. I see this as a way if it works it's great. If not, at least I didn't risk my own money.

do you offer investment advice on coins too?

sorry no. coins are very volatile and majority of coins are victims of pumps and dumps. it is possible to make money on coins but risk is too high. its great as a long term investment. coins can easily be manipulated so its difficult to know if the rise will hold.

how much money can i make?

the amount you make varies as stock market is full of surprises. i have been trading for 1.5 years now and on average have been making around 50% a week, on a investment of £6000. £3000 a week is achievable wit much less risk. it is possible to make 100% on one trade but you may need to hold a little longer maybe a 2 week hold. last week is a good example company snoozebox rose 120% code ZZZ. with a amount of $8000 it would not be good to have your investment in one place so the max i would want you to invest would be around $4000. so on a $4000 investment you would make $4800 profit. churchill mining was another that rose 80% on tuesday. that was a 5 day hold. profit again there on $4000 would be $3200. so in a 1.5 weeks your profit would be $8000. this is on a really good week. on average your return would be 50% profit of your investment so $2000 is very possible with a $8000 investment in more than 1 stock.

how much is the maximum investment i can make?

maximum investment varies depending on how liquid the stock is.

i have traded forex and binary but didn't give a thought to buying stocks, looking to make around $2000 a week with a investment of $8000 is that possible.

yes i've answered that above

we will be chatting through ICQ. i will be online during market hours to update you regularly

see what is mentioned about the £6000 on   6k investment you make £3000 a week and that is me trading not you.

see where i have said if you have $8000 i would advise buying in only $4000

the fact is you know nothing about stock.

also here again your wrong the tips weren't in the past they are from today. what are you on about tips from 10 years ago if i posted a tip from 10 years ago it your comment is valid but you are making no sense at all. plus anyone who would think 7 trillion from £5000 is possible in one year even in theory is an idiot. that post proves your intelligence. churchill mining rose yesterday. it was hold from last week.

and as far as what your talking about a horse racing scheme is different from stocks. stocks cannot be pumped with £1500. or with £50000, even if i did it would only work once, what is the point of that i have got 18 members at the moment.

you guys can try live paper tradingin thinkorswim as a start to gauge his skill

lemfuture i agree i am not even too bothered whether anyone joins yet as people will obviously want to know if it works. i am posting tips to show making money on the markets is possible. i do the research you pay me half

but when your coming with figures of 7 TRILLION in one year thats just EPIC.even if he misunderstood and posted 7 trillion come on anyone would think to themselves they have made a mistake somewhere

WOW

you guys can try live paper tradingin thinkorswim as a start to gauge his skill

7 trillion from 5000 is possible when you're claiming 50% interest per week, the fact you say it isn't possible "even in theory" shows you're an idiot, since the only way it IS possible is "in theory".

And I never said you're pumping stocks.

You give random advice to strangers, if one gets lucky you get 50%

That's it.

There is no expert advice involved.

I could do it too, it's exactly the same as the horse racing scheme.

If you're wrong people lose money, you lose nothing. If you're right you get 50%

It's win win for you

you say if i tell 20 people to buy, 2 will make money the rest loose. what are you talking about. this ain't betting its investing.

You have 18 members.

You tell each of the 18 to purchase a different penny stock.

If one makes 100% profit in a week he sends you 50% of that profit.

The other 17 lose money on your stupid suggestions.

I can't see any explanation other than this, or else you'd just be using your own money.

What do 18 people bring to the table that you don't?

After 1.5 years of trading 6k a week with 50% profits you surely have enough to cover the £90k they could be investing (maximum)

So what is the advantage of them putting in their 90k vs you putting in your own 90k?



Oh right, can't lose

here is one stock

https://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=lon%3Aggp&ei=U-YNU-jTOoaFwAPQOw

keep a eye on it

keep a eye on it

I'm watching

.552 when I saw it I think

now price is .65 thats 20% more

20% profit in small amount time is good

I have some former SAS friends in the UK I know from Afghanistan who would be interested in this. They'll want to meet you in person to confirm their funds, and more importantly that you are who you say you are, and that they can contact you.

Can you do that? If so, PM me, and I'll put you in touch. If they're happy, I'll post an update here.

Will you put 5k in escrow as insurance against me losing 5k

I remember a pump and dump involving implant sciences

Didn't they develop a bomb sniffer? It was just waiting for TSA approval.

Damn this is familiar


http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=IMSC+Interactive#symbol=imsc;range=my;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=;

Too bad I can't trade the UK market. If you ever have anything for the US, Canada, Germany, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway; I might be interested.

If are so sure that you will not fail and that this is legal, why are you telling it to us?
You could just invest and reinvest until you become a millionaire.
Secondly, if this is both legal and sure, start a HYIP.
It will be easier and faster to collect funds.
Anyways, best of luck.
Jambola2

the offer is basically where i give you investment advice in return you pay me 50% profits. all i need you to do from your end is buy and sell when i say. you only pay me when you have profited once i have been sent my cut i will send you the next advice.

ok if its about the details of the offer il brush it up to make things more clearer.

as for if i tell you to buy and not too sell, why would i do that. i would want my share of the profit which i will get when you sell. i have written anything about bad advice as i wouldn't give it. there is no benefit in it for me if you loose i have stated if you loose anything from your starting capital i shall refund it so you have not lost anything.

but i understand where you are coming  in regards to the first post explaining what i am offering, it doesn't look professional. i shall update it over the weekend or today. i didn't give much thought to it as the response has been great so far and i am not looking for too many users to work with.

Sorry, you are really clueless, though I give you the benefit of the doubt and think you are not a scammer, you look sincere.

1. you get 0 risks, which are entirely burden of the investors
2. if the investment goes up, you win and get your cut... if the investment goes down, you lose nothing
3. if an investment is down you have no reason to ever say "sell", you can just hope forever it will go up

this plan is so horribly flawed it is unsalvagable, I'm sorry.

We are at page 4 and we're still discussing if this makes any sense, and clearly there has been no investor? The reason is obvious.

Scratch this plan and make a new one which makes sense, using the advices here.

So will you or will you not put the £1500 into escrow to cover any potential losses?

if you do that for each investor then we have zero risk as you promise and I'm sure you'll have a bunch of people signing up right away.

You've been doing this 1.5 years, with £6000 averaging £3000 profit a week. That's over £200,000 you have in profit apparently.

So it's not like you can't afford to put the money in escrow.



What would make a LOT more sense is if you simply used your own £200k. Didn't panhandle for small change (relatively speaking) on forums, and keep 100% of the profits.

Why would you want other people to keep 50% of profit when you can do it yourself with your own cash?

boiler room?

also some time ago we had a group of spammers which spam people with penny stock which they should get...
while people were buying they were dumping with profit....

if you can provide such a great profit why you not do this on your own... or get funds and hit high...

it can't so good if someone promising you such a great % on investment...

I'd like to become a new user. What is your requirements ? and what exactly do you offer ? And how high is risk of losing investments ? :)

Let me know when this is offered for US exchanges :)

Do you do technical analysis to plan your trades?

i have received some requests to provide advice on trading coins. i do trade coins but this is only for myself as it is difficult to establish a genuine rise. i look for coins which can give me the best return in a short amount of time, but again it is very risky as majority are pump and dumps, also i do not spend to much time analyzing coins, so it is difficult to provide the right advice, i prefer to risk my own btc rather than anyone else's.

even if i were able to, it would look no more like pump and dumps, where some may loose and some may win. everyone signed up on stocks, makes money and no one is the victim of pump and dumps.

currently i have traded maxcoin, blackcoin. i may trade auroracoin, depending on what happens on 25th March. my opinion is you may not see a large sell off straight away as it will take time for icelanders to claim their coins, and then if you see a steady descent, sell and buy back, as coins have value based on investor confidence. if the market cap falls massively people will take it as a bargain considering the previous heights it has reached, when it goes up i cannot say if it will hold, but their is money to be made on auroracoin.

do not take this as advice but simply my take on things. in reply to the requests i cannot provide advice on coins, i will stick with my current program.

Novadays there are launched 2+ new coins every day, mostly IPO SCAMs. You may basically avoid pure scrypt only coins (which IMHO including LiteCoin and DogeCoin, although they have strong comunity, which on the other hand counts a lot), because they will be dead in < year due to incoming ASIC storm. You may do Your own research to find some special coins, but for start You can´t go wrong with Heavycoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506774.0). You may also check excelent topic of what signals You have to avoid for not to drop in SCAM: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=480934.0

For long term investing I would put money in some average platform (known as Bitcoin 2.0) like Ripple or Mastercoin.

majority of the coins do quickly die and some do have promise. the thing with coins are is anything new a coin offers investors jump on the opportunity to make money. currently i am heavily invested in Blackcoin. i am up 300% up there, it will be a bumpy ride but it does show a lot of people have a interest in it. i regret not selling at 4500 and buying back in at 1500 again, but i bought as people over reacted.

i don't take trading coins seriously, so i do not spend too much time researching coins. i have my own guide i follow, and if all boxes are ticked i invest.

Agree on bumpy ride - I dumped all BCs at 2800 after doing some math and thinking that I won, since i mined and bought them at about 900 sats. 1% anual interest and original dev gone seemed to me like reason to leave silently, but then comunity took the reins and now up they go.. But I almost quad my investment, and thats all what its all about:)

EDIT: All about crypto investing is that its here and now - You can´t regret that You did not jumped Bitcoin train 2 years ago same as You can´t regret You miss SlothCoin launch 4 Days ago. If You do some research (huge time consumpting I must admit), You can make decent income even on downtrends.

There is too much people offering investment with quick results, 1500 pounds are little too much to give to a jr member dont you think...


BR,

Gondel

Little free advise on Blackcoin - Party is over now due to recent news on Blackcoin (which by the way have just insanely poor 1% annual interest, much less than You can get in one day even if You are blindfolded deaf single handed monkey..) I would get rid of all of my blackcoins if I had any before more ppl notice the 120+ BTC flaw:
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/25/cryptorush-loses-millions-of-blackcoins/

If You get onboard to Heavycoin with my previous 2 days old advice, You made about 65% profit so far (but its not over yet, so hold still and You won´t regret). If You are happy with that, You can tip me on following adress. And here is my next advice - for longer term grab and hold some MINT or ECC coins (as they are predecessors to BlackCoin but with stronger support* and comunity). If You want another short term profit advice with probably 300% in 2 weeks (in worst case) or more like 1k+ in about 2 months, You may want to invest in.. Ohh.. My memory is quite fuzzy now.. Maybe some tip to 1J8Z5dJuv1rSGQpdPC2zuAsToLgkJiVeg7 with PM about it will refresh my mind ;-)

* BlackCoin was good somehow, but was killed by sudden hardfork (which should be announced at least one week before in case of whale coin, which BC definitelly is).

that news was 10 hours has had no effect, that says lot. im holding. don't know about heavycoin. i appreciate it if you don't promote your services on my thread. keep it related to stocks.

So You gave advice about altcoins here before and now You tell me to "keep it related to stocks"? Umm.. Nevermind.. Also I don´t promote any services here, I just thought that someone could be very happy for nice profit made by inadvertently advice from some humble 1y altcoin miner, as 0.000031 to 0.00005 is roughly 65% in 2 days and up we go. If this was Yours advice, everyone should pay You 32.5% of their profits, but this way its free money which anyone does not have to send anywhere. But if anyone want, don´t send them to me - choose some local BTC accepting charity instead and send them there. If I´ll get PM with TX info about so-like transaction, I´ll reply with next hot altcoin advice.
And esclade: I actually wanted to became a member as I am currently "mutating" from miner to (technical)trader, but You did not persuade me so far, nor with Your enemy attitude..

So its a bit confusing to follow this thread.. are we still trying to take stock advices from a complete stranger? or advice on alt coins?

The thing with investment advise from a total stranger is, that he is the one proifiting the most. he will buy before you, and sell before you.

Must be nice!

as long as you make the amount promised does that matter

Well, it is illegal ( not that anyone cares about that in here...) and yes, because if this thing gets bigger, the last guys to sell will be the bagholders.

Just look at the volumes of his posted shares.

50million shares of a pennystock for 0.001-0.01 AUD. That means that on average maybe 250.000 AUD in value were traded (maybe even half if this program double counts). Now lets say he moves 20k himself, and 20k are his follower sheep. Than you have 40k invested at start, and maybe 200k at the end. He may very well be able to cashout his immense gains, but as the number of the stake of the followers grows, the chance for all of them to come out ahead will sink significantly.

Basically it is a ponzi. Many people were already convicted for this. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Frick for example

the term i believe your looking for is Pump and Dumps, people can research it, or just watch the film wolf of wall street, but your wrong again, i think you have not read the thread, when you say AUD do you mean australian dollar. i have not given advice on any australian company, i only trade UK, canada and USA stocks.

see the stock VMP, that rose 700% and look at the current price, are you telling me that was a pump and dump, people can still sell for the massive profit today when they bought in when i told them. that can't be a pump and dump, secondly, your right where if i were pumping and dumping there are always casualties, i cannot see anyone posting they have been victim of this method. i do not play with pump and dumps, it will only bring in short term profit. after the first trade the game is over as there are people who have lost money. i give advice where you invest your money on credible and factual info, you hold and sell out when i say. everyone makes a profit not just some. there are thousands of companies on lse. users are not piled into one company, investments are spread out. some of the stocks may rise more than others, so as long as your making money that shouldn't be a problem for that person.

I was refering to that pic: ( i jumbled up NZD and AUD)

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F9102f7.png&t=538&c=QqMmEgc1kAxpjg

Well, ponzi might be the wrong word, but i am not a native speaker.

I don't really  want to focus on single stocks to prove a point. Just wanted to point out that this is leagally very thin ice and also i hope you don't exploit the sheep.

Take care

i understand where you are coming from, but programs like pump and dumps, are short lived. if im in it for a quick buck then it is my thing but i am looking at the bigger picture, much more bitcoins to be made in the long run.

why would i even do something like that when the stocks i have posted have given me and my users a excellent return when investing. i am only mentioning the stock you mentioned.

i am not even saying that you are doing that now. I don't know what you tell your people. Just saying that this can be exploitet by you and many people have fallen for their greed.

i dont think anyione sould take stock advice from anyone that isnt license professional otherwise your just letting someone else gamble with your money.

bitcoin is taking a beating, just read china exchanges being closed down. not good. if there is no bitcoin, there is no point in me offering this

Hey have you tried this with anybody yet??? if yes then please ask your investor to post a feedback on you here so that might help in favor. Else it sound like a scam, I know you won't take the money but its somehow like the same you are trading with other's money if they have profit you will get your cut if they suffer loss you will still be safe, So isn't it either good to trade our self and bear the whole profit or loss ???

Hey have you tried this with anybody yet??? if yes then please ask your investor to post a feedback on you here so that might help in favor. Else it sound like a scam, I know you won't take the money but its somehow like the same you are trading with other's money if they have profit you will get your cut if they suffer loss you will still be safe, So isn't it either good to trade our self and bear the whole profit or loss ???

TCF reached a low point earlier this year, and I just happen to be in the middle of the story. A popular scheme over the past few years on forums has been a very simple ponzi scheme aimed at members of gaming forums, hardware acceleration forums, etc. There was a user on TCF who was semi-known and semi-reputable. He posted a scheme that looked something like this (original post gone) on the forum:
I've been involved in a lot of penny stock trading recently on the London OTC exchange after meeting a banker in a bar who told me about how to manipulate the market. I've made over £10,000 this month. He taught me how to read the markets and how to know what is going on. Here are some of my trades that I earned on this month:
*shows trades in the past with stock increasing 100%+
I'm now prepared to scale up this scheme and invite a select group of users to invest along side me and realize the same sort of returns I am. I am offering two investment packages:
Option 1. Minimum investment £5000. 5 slots available. I will send you a link to signup for a brokerage account and every few days I will send you a stock to buy and then notify you when to sell it. You don't pass me the money, you invest yourself. In return I get 20% of your profits.
Option 2. Minimum investment £100. I invest your money for you and you join my fund and I guarantee you a 14% return per week. 20 slots available (3 sold!)
Users would normally be skeptical, but the fears would be allayed by sock puppet accounts who would talk about the returns on Option 1. "Hey, try option 1 if you are nervous". Option 1 is just a distraction from the real ponzi scheme - which is option 2. Over the next few days he will post updated trades from option 1 showing their returns, with sockpuppet accounts talking up how much they made. Since option 1 then 'sells out' (but hey, we have a waiting list!) most users then signup for option 2, a little at first then bit by bit more and more.
Here is the ultimate irony of this ponzi scheme. Were you to go to the section of TCF where all those shitty tutorials are for sale (just as they are now on Evolution market) one of the tutorials for sale for a few hundred dollars was 'How to make $10,000 per month'. The tutorial was an exact description of how to run this ponzi scheme, word-for-word pasted in introduction section, the terms to use to make it appear like you know what you are talking about with trading (the guy who ran this scheme on TCF was an unemployed web designer) how to find the 'winning' stocks for Option 1, how to convince people to part with their money etc.
There is a brilliant writeup on WeirderWeb about the exact same scheme taking hold on the BlackHatSEO forums, the original article is down but the mirror on archive.org is still available and it really is worth a read.
Had anybody on TCF bothered to check their own tutorials they would have seen this. Worse yet, had anybody bothered to copy that original message and paste it into a search engine they would see hundreds of hits for the exact same original message on thousands of forums around the web. In 99% of those cases the thread is ignored, someone replies with 'scam!' or a moderator removes the thread.
But not on TCF. Not only were there plenty of people who bought into the scheme, the administrators of the site 'vouched' for option 1 as a legitimate offer. This is a rubber stamp meaning that the offer is safe. All throughout the forum thread whenever there was a doubter pointing out the obvious ponzi scheme elements of the scheme they would always be shouted down with 'but it is vouched!'.
The guy running the scheme would make some payouts, but he would setup the scheme with capacity slots, and if you withdrew money you would go back into the queue. The number of people actually invested was 25 times larger than the number of people he said were invested. The amount of money invested was around 100 times larger than the revealed amount of money invested.
The OP of the thread was late on payments just as TCF was shutdown for the last time and everybody was migrated to the new Evolution forums. At this time with the migration to Evolution, TCF had been down from their hack for a couple of weeks and nobody had heard from Samuraiprint - the guy running the ponzi scheme (or 'investment opportunity', in TCF parlance).
The old thread is lost, but here is a link to the new thread where the scheme continued on Evolution (thread title changed when it was realized that it was a scam):
Title: Samuraiprint/TCF topic: Invest and Multiply your money


Hi all,
Anyone tried this ?
I took option 2.
The 1 st payment and communication with Samuraiprint were perfect, but from last saturday and tcf down, it seems that it's not even the same person behind his icq.
Brief history : Saturday : On icq, he told me he will pay at 3PM, nothing... Same time, I registered to hbb, find that he had an old topic there under the pseudo stocktrading, and send him a pm. Pm was read but never answered. On icq, he told me to check at 9PM, nothing... All of that using some words that don't go with Samuraiprint usual language. Sunday : No icq cnx. The name of his tread on hbb was modified to fit the same exact tcf's one. Some posts from the op were also modified. Monday : I received an add from another icq # 653196796, telling me his other account got hacked and to give him 24 hrs to fix everything. He was able to give me the amount I invested to identify himself...but that could maybe be found in the history of the other icq... Today: He was online on icq but doesn't answer to me. Now he doesn't stop login and logout just few seconds after... Something wrong with Samuraiprint. 1/ He got hacked for real or 2/ It's a pretty scam. Who said : "what is too good to be true..." ?
reply 1:
MrMouse Member
Sounds like a scam.
reply 2:
well.. his thread at TCF actually in verified section. i did chat with him yesterday thou.. hes basically saying want to get rid of some members from option1, especially who doesnt have knowledge in stock market, probably impatient client or some sort he did tell me his icq acc and including email is hacked. so i ask him several questions,etc.. he got it right thou.. so i assumed his new icq account is not impostor. ive asked him if he will register here, he said no.. dont > have time for that, and registration already closed for new member long time ago anyway
reply 3:
I also invested with Samurai for option 2. This last weekend was supposed to be my first payout and pretty much what you said happened.
reply 5:
I know what you mean. Nothing about him pointed to being a scammer and he definitely knows his stuff. I really do hope this is just a speed bump and I receive the rest of my payouts and on time.
Samuraiprint shows up at reply #25, apologetic:
samuraiprint reply #1 screenshot
and so on .. the thread continues with "investors" not wanting to give up on the dream of untold riches, despite all the obvious clues. There are some sock puppet accounts that talk about being paid. It drags on for 7 pages, and eventually some users figure out that this guy has taken them for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The guys who signed up to a carding forum with dreams of becoming rich with credit card fraud had been scammed themselves by the simplest of ponzi schemes. Like most ponzi schemes there are still victims who in the end refuse to believe they were scammed - it must be because samuraiprint was taken by the Mafia, or arrested for insider trading, or perhaps the Russians got to him.
On around the 25th of January the thread starts fading out. The admins come back in and post that it isn't their fault users got scammed with option 2 - they had only verified option 1! They also accepted no blame for not banning the user, and one admin admits that he himself had money tied up in the scheme.
What happens next takes this story from a crazy ironic incidents where amateur scammers got scammed to something that is borderline sheer lunacy. There was a semi-known user on the forums called 'Gold'. He was the type of user who would reply to almost any thread, just to get noticed and build up his post count. In 3 months he went from a nobody to being known on the forum, he sold stolen card data in the markets.
This is what he posted on the 31st of January, about a week after the last ponzi scheme collapsed:
gold post #1 screenshot
The sheer audacity of this guy - a week after the last ponzi scheme and another user who was obviously waiting his turn tries his hand at a similar scam.
You'd think these users would be wary by now, but here are the first 3 replies - reproduced verbatim:
Vouch for this user, have worked with him on various things with big money involved. I think I might buy a few slots soon!
two:
Extremely interested. Should have the funds to do this very soon.
three:
I vouch for him as well, he knows what he is doing and i am buying one for myself. cheers.
Here is a private message I got a day after this was posted:
Hey You really opened my eyes in regards to samuraiprint, but it was too late. However now a new listing that smells the same to me came up and I want to know your opinion. I would really like to avoid losing more money, what do you think of this?
He linked to the Gold scheme above. You can't make this shit up - these idiots are falling for the same thing twice in less than 2 weeks. I messaged the admins and after a long chain of messages going back and forward involving me trying to convince them that this was just another scam, they locked the thread:
I personally am not going to allow any type of investing here or on TCF regardless of status.