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Title: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 25, 2014, 03:33:55 AM
Truly confused as to why my Computer is shutting down after running cgminer for 40-60 minutes.  Any advice is much appreciated!

Computer runs perfect with no shutdowns while not running Cgminer.

Cgminer starts up perfectly fine and is running stable with no HW errors or any signs of complications.  Running a single Sapphire R9 280x with a 1200Watt PSU.  My first assumption was a lack of power running into my GPU and I've tried all three PCI power connections (but with the 1200Watt PSU - power shouldn't be an issue).  Running SDK 2.9 with 13.11 AMD driver.  I've tried multiple cg conf files as well (current conf file shown below).

Temp avg: 74C
GPU Load: 99%
Fan speed: 40%
GPU Core Clock: 1080 Mhz
GPU Memory Clock:  1500 Mhz


Hardware listed below:
1)  MB GBT|GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ (Rev.4.0)
2)  VGA SAPPHIRE|100363L R9 280X 3GD5 R
3)  PSU SST | SST-ST1200-G EVOLUTION R
4)  MEM 4Gx2|G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
5)  CPU AMD|4-CORE FX-4130 3.8G 4M R


{
"pools" : [

{
        "url" : "middlecoin.com:3333",
        "user" : "wallet address",
        "pass" : "xx"
}

   ]
,


"intensity" : "13",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "scrypt",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8192",
"shaders" : "2048",
"auto-fan" : true,
"temp-target" : "75",
"expiry" : "120",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "1080,1080,1080,1080",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500,1500,1500,1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "0",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "0",
"scan-time" : "30",
"scrypt" : true,
"shares" : "0",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"

}


Will make BTC donation for anyone who can solve this!!  :)


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Starscream on February 25, 2014, 05:59:09 AM
Despite what you wrote, I'd still venture to say it's the temperature of your GPU that causes that shutdown. What's your VRAM temperature close to the 30-40 minutes mark?

Generally speaking, a computer will shut itself down to protect a piece of hardware, usually the cause is overheating.


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: LetsTalkBitcoin on February 25, 2014, 06:36:59 AM
Id say temperature is your best guess. Not necessarily the CPU but basically any piece of hardware with a failsafe mechanism. Check CPU, RAM, NorthbridgeSouthbridge Chips, PSU, etc.

  • What if you open the sides of the case? Does it run longer?
  • Did you try ramping up the fan speed from 40% to something like 60% or 80%?
  • Maybe set "temp-target" to a little less like "70"?


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: pengoau on February 25, 2014, 01:27:51 PM
check your vrm temps with gpuz, they shouldn't be exceeding 100C


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: robelneo on February 25, 2014, 02:50:25 PM
Cpuid is a must if you want to mine coins I have installed on all the machine where I am mining coins it gave me detailed analysis of the temperature of my pc


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Equate on February 25, 2014, 03:09:50 PM
which cgminer version are you using.Whats is your OS.


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 25, 2014, 11:19:43 PM
Replying to all response here.

1)  Running 3.7.2 Cgminer with windows 7 64-bit

2)  I use GPU-Z to monitor while mining and doesn't report VRM temp.... how do I check this?

3)  Giving Cpuid a try

4)  Both sides of my case are already off - 74C doesn't seem excessively hot for a 280x from what I've been reading on forums....

I'll try setting temp-target to a lower setting and ramp up fan speed as well

Furthermore, I'm trying to switch out RAM from 8 to 16GB.  If that doesn't work trying a faster CPU next.


Will report back after I try there steps.....


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Starscream on February 25, 2014, 11:27:40 PM
In GPU-Z you should be able to see VRAM temperature, it will be at the bottom of the sensors list (you can scroll down if you haven't noticed).
It also wouldn't hurt to monitor the temperature of your CPU.

And you really don't need more RAM or a faster CPU - speed isn't your issue here.


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: carly200 on February 25, 2014, 11:31:02 PM
I did not check the previous posts, just your headline...

If you have a multi rail PSU and overload a rail, it may shutdown (like a fuse) your system.

that may happen after some time, when the systems (GPU) has heated up and draws more power...




Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Wipeout2097 on February 26, 2014, 12:02:16 AM
If you have a multi rail PSU and overload a rail, it may shutdown (like a fuse) your system.

that may happen after some time, when the systems (GPU) has heated up and draws more power..
This.

@OP, if Gpu-z doesn't show VRM temp, try HwInfo


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 26, 2014, 12:56:33 AM
I have a single +12V rail so don't believe that's the cause.

Tried changing "Temp-targ" to 70 and still shutdown..... trying 65 now.  Upped the fan speed to 65% too.... still not the case.

GPUZ does not list "VRAM Temp" for the 280x under sensors.  Downloaded Hwinfo and still don't see "VRAM Temp" anywhere.  Do some GPUs not show VRAM Temp or something? 

CPU avg temp = 8.3C
Motherboard avg temp = 30.9C
Northbridge avg temp = 31.6C
VR T1 avg temp = 40C     (don't know what this is?)
VR T2 avg temp = 40.2C   (don't know what this is?)
GPU avg temp = 64C  (with new temp-target set to "65")


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Starscream on February 26, 2014, 01:07:03 AM
I'd venture to guess that VR is your VRAM.

A stupid thought, we sure your PC doesn't go to sleep? go to control panel, go to hardware and sound, go to power options, select change when the computer goes to sleep (never), win?


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 26, 2014, 01:21:03 AM
Not a stupid thought.... but yes I've changed both Sleep and Monitor settings to "never" turn off.


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: miner765 on February 26, 2014, 01:34:11 AM
Are you living in a house or apartment? Try switching power outlet, what PSU do you have?


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: serje on February 26, 2014, 01:36:37 AM
I recommend you to put the pc in a room where it's cold since it's still winter!
Open windows and don't enter that room

Of course if you have a spare room otherwise just use your balcony or terrace if you have one ... just be sure rain won't get to him and he has enough air to "breath"


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 26, 2014, 02:00:26 AM
PSU
PSU SST | SST-ST1200-G EVOLUTION R

I live in an apartment, and trying to switch power outlets.  If that doesn't work I'm willing to put it on my balcony to test it..... just want this to work :/


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Prelektro on February 26, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
My bet it's vrm temperatures %99. If computer is shutting down, it means something is really getting hot and its either cpu or gpu. New stock Sapphire cards have serious problems about vrm temperatures, month ago my 4 sapphire dual-x 7950 got burned and customer service said there were melted solderings. I heard sapphire r9 280x's also have that problem. Check your bios number, if it's 015.041 that bios has vrm temperature issues. You can flash your bios with different one but be careful it may cancel your warranty.


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 26, 2014, 02:33:01 AM
Bios Information:  113-5E2490U-O46 for the R9 280x so doesn't look like it fits the below description of 015.041


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Prelektro on February 26, 2014, 03:13:36 AM
It's not bios version.

Check gpu-z , here is my sapphire r9 280x toxic bios. I got 015.039 and it's working without an issue.

https://i.imgur.com/xg4vQ5k.png


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 26, 2014, 03:24:07 AM
Oh shit.... yeah do have Bios version 015.041...... but switched to an outlet on the complete opposite side of my apartment and cgminer has been running for over an hour now.  I may have been pulling too much power from one outlet before (had another cpu running on that outlet plus surround sound and a tv).  Hoping this holds while I grab a couple drinks :)


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: EarlGrievous on February 26, 2014, 01:15:09 PM
Plugging it into another outlet did help..... ran for 3:30 instead of 40-60min.  Thought that was the root cause then and upped my "targ-temp" back to 75 from 65 and my computer quickly shutdown.  99% sure its the VRAM temp now. 

Any suggestions on how to control/limit my VRAM temp on this R9 280x (bios version 015.041).  I've read that you can change the bios info for the 280x?  Will this help control the VRAM temp?



Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Starscream on February 26, 2014, 02:52:05 PM
Get MSI Afterburner and create a fan protfolio there. Mine is rather linear until the 85%/85c mark, than it just stabilizes on 85% and I let CGwatcher change intensity in case GPU overheats.


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: carly200 on February 26, 2014, 06:56:25 PM
LOL

can anybody explain, how drawing too much from a wall outlet will shut down the PC? I say it is impossible, unless the cicuit breaker/fuse blows...



Why didn't you try to set the fans at 80% for some time, just to check if it is temps....


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: miner765 on February 27, 2014, 12:43:48 AM
If he lives in an apartment, there are 2 or 3 different corks that control his power. If they get overloaded, they simply would not give enough power to PSU and PSU will shut down do prevent damage to MB.


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: Wipeout2097 on February 27, 2014, 02:30:13 AM
Wait... are you even undervolting the cards?


Title: Re: Computer shutdown after running Cgminer for 40-60 minutes
Post by: carly200 on February 27, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
If he lives in an apartment, there are 2 or 3 different corks that control his power. If they get overloaded, they simply would not give enough power to PSU and PSU will shut down do prevent damage to MB.

I am curious, can you elaborate?

I think: either the fuse blows, or you will get your power. (or the cable will run hot) how can you not pul the amps?
It is not like a 200m cable through the garden.... so how do you want to increase the resistance, so that you canot pull your power?


well, but maybe I underestimate the low quality American wiring... 110V is just plain crap ;-)
are we talking about 110V outlets here and low quality installations?