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Title: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 10, 2018, 07:26:27 AM
Hello. I need your help and some advices, because I really don’t know the reason of ban, but I understand that moderators did not ban users without some reason.

I read this forum and rules, so I tried not to violate them. May you tell me, please, what did I wrong to avoid such mistakes anymore?

I’m sorry for my mistakes and I hope  you will tell me about them and forgive me.
Thank you!

Link to my banned account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125821 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125821)


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: Alex_Sr on August 10, 2018, 07:36:48 AM
Hello. I need your help and some advices, because I really don’t know the reason of ban, but I understand that moderators did not ban users without some reason.

I read this forum and rules, so I tried not to violate them. May you tell me, please, what did I wrong to avoid such mistakes anymore?

I’m sorry for my mistakes and I hope  you will tell me about them and forgive me.
Thank you!

Link to my banned account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125821 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125821)

If the rules were violated in the Russian forum thread the information will soon appear here:

[ List] Banned users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4588431.0)


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 10, 2018, 07:46:50 AM
Alex_Sr, Thank you for this link.
In most cases, the reason for the ban in that thread is plagiarism or evasion from the ban, and all my messages in this forum were just my personal thoughts.


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on August 10, 2018, 08:15:28 AM
Be aware that you are only allowed to post on this thread. Don't post anywhere else and wait for a reply from a moderator.


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 10, 2018, 09:26:52 AM
I read this forum and rules, so I tried not to violate them. May you tell me, please, what did I wrong to avoid such mistakes anymore?
Let the mods wait for the real reason why you got banned but you are not required to do another account again and do what you are doing here in the forum. In short, your out of the game.

I’m sorry for my mistakes and I hope  you will tell me about them and forgive me.
Thank you!
I don't think that the mods will forgive you. Once you created an illegal thing here, its a goodbye signal to you unless you can defend yourself.


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 10, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
Be aware that you are only allowed to post on this thread. Don't post anywhere else and wait for a reply from a moderator.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/5qTamQs4OhanK/giphy.gif


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: krishnaverma on August 10, 2018, 07:09:53 PM
I remember reading a very similar thread here recently.  In that cases also the section was not reversed.

It is clearly mentioned in forum rules that there is permanent ban for posting copied content. Now,  it may appear harsh but the decision is final and irrevedible. You should accept the reality.


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 11, 2018, 09:14:17 PM
It is clearly mentioned in forum rules that there is permanent ban for posting copied content.

I read this, but I really never copypast on this or some other forum. I didn't do anything illegal, all of my massage

I don't think that the mods will forgive you. Once you created an illegal thing here, its a goodbye signal to you unless you can defend yourself.

But what should I do, if I I didn't do anything illegal and all of my posts was just my thoughts?


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: MagicSmoker on August 11, 2018, 09:46:11 PM
...

Link to my banned account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125821 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125821)

There's just 1 post in your history... that doesn't look suspicious or anything...  ::)



Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: Thirdspace on August 11, 2018, 10:58:56 PM
If the rules were violated in the Russian forum thread the information will soon appear here:

[ List] Banned users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4588431.0)
that threads was updated after OP created this thread, and nadra_group is not listed there
so it seems he wasn't banned by russian mod but probably by global mod for violation in general forum
the modlog page shows his userid was banned with other 8 users in a row
maybe that gives a clue to what he has been banned for

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Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2216367
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2212574
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1825378
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1805330
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2125821
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #391838
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1867927
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1786370
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1000761
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2215586
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2214334
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2213463
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2213786


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 12, 2018, 06:09:46 AM
so it seems he wasn't banned by russian mod but probably by global mod for violation in general forum
the modlog page shows his userid was banned with other 8 users in a row
maybe that gives a clue to what he has been banned for

Thank you for this information. But I still don't understand the reason of my ban in this case, because I have only one post in one topic in general forum and it didn't violate the rules.
In russian forum the same situation - all posts are mine and they didn't violate the rules. So I have no idea what  I could do wrong.

I don't understant what could I do wrong, but I really sorry for that. I tried to follow all forum rules.


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 12, 2018, 06:16:34 AM
So I have no idea what  I could do wrong.
I don't either, though I suspect it's probably plagiarism.  I could be very wrong, but what you ought to know is that apologies and begging will get you absolutely nowhere when you're appealing a ban.  As evidence of that, take a look at the last 100 ban appeals where people screamed that they were sorry; that it wouldn't happen again; that they'd learned their lesson; that they had children to feed; or any other reasons or excuses.  See if those members are still active.

You're either rightfully banned or you're not.  If it turns out to be an error, then the ban will be lifted.  If a mod shows up and proves that you did something wrong, you're done.  Pleas for mercy fall upon deaf ears.


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 12, 2018, 08:00:01 PM
So I have no idea what  I could do wrong.
I don't either, though I suspect it's probably plagiarism.  I could be very wrong, but what you ought to know is that apologies and begging will get you absolutely nowhere when you're appealing a ban.  As evidence of that, take a look at the last 100 ban appeals where people screamed that they were sorry; that it wouldn't happen again; that they'd learned their lesson; that they had children to feed; or any other reasons or excuses.  See if those members are still active.

You're either rightfully banned or you're not.  If it turns out to be an error, then the ban will be lifted.  If a mod shows up and proves that you did something wrong, you're done.  Pleas for mercy fall upon deaf ears.

The Pharmacist, may you tell me, please, who of the moderators can tell me the reason of the ban and how can I contact with them?


Title: Re: I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 12, 2018, 08:02:32 PM
The Pharmacist, may you tell me, please, who of the moderators can tell me the reason of the ban and how can I contact with them?
I'm pretty sure they don't want to be contacted via PM, and I think there's a better chance of one of them stopping by to let you know why you're banned.  In any case, I don't know who banned you so I can't tell you who to contact.  You can bump this thread once per 24 hours, by the way.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: Xal0lex on August 13, 2018, 01:21:06 AM
Hello. I need your help and some advices, because I really don’t know the reason of ban, but I understand that moderators did not ban users without some reason.

Show what is written in red in your banned profile.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 13, 2018, 04:00:01 AM
Hello. I need your help and some advices, because I really don’t know the reason of ban, but I understand that moderators did not ban users without some reason.

Show what is written in red in your banned profile.
http://picua.org/img/2018-08/13/l7ztrvf9akfj0htb7es7movoy.jpg


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: mobilazy on August 13, 2018, 04:50:14 AM
Funny to see that you can appeal to some gibberish auto-generated email which probably never checked. Is this some kind of joke? (cruel one)


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 15, 2018, 09:19:30 PM
Xal0lex, hello. I sent you screenshot two days ago. Is there any information about the reason why I was banned?


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: Xal0lex on August 15, 2018, 11:23:36 PM
Xal0lex, hello. I sent you screenshot two days ago. Is there any information about the reason why I was banned?

I don't have any information. Maybe other moderators will prompt.

I don't either, though I suspect it's probably plagiarism.

In the Russian section I didn't find at him any violations.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 16, 2018, 11:22:23 AM
Xal0lex, hello. I sent you screenshot two days ago. Is there any information about the reason why I was banned?

I don't have any information. Maybe other moderators will prompt.

I don't either, though I suspect it's probably plagiarism.

In the Russian section I didn't find at him any violations.

May you tell, please, about this case to someone in global thread ?

Or please tell me what can I do with this problem? ... as can you see I probably didn't do smth wrong.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: Xal0lex on August 16, 2018, 04:34:56 PM
May you tell, please, about this case to someone in global thread ?

Or please tell me what can I do with this problem? ... as can you see I probably didn't do smth wrong.

I have already asked a question in the section for moderators. I haven't received an answer yet.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 17, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
I have already asked a question in the section for moderators. I haven't received an answer yet.

Thank you! I will wait for an answer about this situation.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 18, 2018, 05:15:50 PM
I think I found who and why banned my acc!

I take part to Signature Campaign in the Eloncity Bounty Program - Extension https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4443361.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4443361.0)

2018-08-17 Global Moderator hilariousandco send negative trust to bounty manager with text: I've lost count of how many users I've banned baring the ElonCity signature. Absolutely appallingly run signature campaign.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1421358

2018-08-18 Grace - admin Krypital Bounty Program posted in telegram group this text:

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Recently, our Eloncity bitcointalk account got a mute warning. We've contact the admin and the reason is that we posted two signature campaigns on the same forum. While the eloncity 1st part ended on 8/2/2018 and the 2nd part started on 8/3/3018. There is no overlap. We appealed and now is waiting for the reply from the admin. Thanks for caring. Please follow us for more details.
http://prntscr.com/kk6jrm


If this is really reason of my ban than tell me please what kind of rules I violated ?







Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: hilariousandco on August 18, 2018, 05:23:14 PM
I think I found who and why banned my acc!

I take part to Signature Campaign in the Eloncity Bounty Program - Extension https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4443361.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4443361.0)

2018-08-17 Global Moderator hilariousandco send negative trust to bounty manager with text: I've lost count of how many users I've banned baring the ElonCity signature. Absolutely appallingly run signature campaign.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1421358

2018-08-18 Grace - admin Krypital Bounty Program posted in telegram group this text:

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Recently, our Eloncity bitcointalk account got a mute warning. We've contact the admin and the reason is that we posted two signature campaigns on the same forum. While the eloncity 1st part ended on 8/2/2018 and the 2nd part started on 8/3/3018. There is no overlap. We appealed and now is waiting for the reply from the admin. Thanks for caring. Please follow us for more details.
http://prntscr.com/kk6jrm


If this is really reason of my ban than tell me please what kind of rules I violated ?


I can't comment on whether I banned you or not because I honestly don't know. I probably ban hundreds of users a month and I have personally banned at least 50 users baring the ElonCity signature alone for copy and pasting, but having their signature alone isn't enough to get you a ban nor does the above info you posted mean it was me. If you were banned then it was likely for a good reason and if you copied and pasted someone else's content then that's why. I previously searched your username both in Meta, the report queue and Staff forum and found nothing and I usually only act on information from one of those so I can't help you, but if you did copy and paste another's post or content from another website then that's why you were banned.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 18, 2018, 05:41:25 PM
I think I found who and why banned my acc!

I take part to Signature Campaign in the Eloncity Bounty Program - Extension https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4443361.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4443361.0)

2018-08-17 Global Moderator hilariousandco send negative trust to bounty manager with text: I've lost count of how many users I've banned baring the ElonCity signature. Absolutely appallingly run signature campaign.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1421358

2018-08-18 Grace - admin Krypital Bounty Program posted in telegram group this text:

Quote
Recently, our Eloncity bitcointalk account got a mute warning. We've contact the admin and the reason is that we posted two signature campaigns on the same forum. While the eloncity 1st part ended on 8/2/2018 and the 2nd part started on 8/3/3018. There is no overlap. We appealed and now is waiting for the reply from the admin. Thanks for caring. Please follow us for more details.
http://prntscr.com/kk6jrm


If this is really reason of my ban than tell me please what kind of rules I violated ?


I can't comment on whether I banned you or not because I honestly don't know. I probably ban hundreds of users a month and I have personally banned at least 50 users baring the ElonCity signature alone for copy and pasting, but having their signature alone isn't enough to get you a ban nor does the above info you posted mean it was me. If you were banned then it was likely for a good reason and if you copied and pasted someone else's content then that's why. I previously searched your username both in Meta, the report queue and Staff forum and found nothing and I usually only act on information from one of those so I can't help you, but if you did copy and paste another's post or content from another website then that's why you were banned.

Thanks for your answer. If only my Eloncity's signature is not my reason to ban and I didn't "copy/past" in my only one post in global thread and in other local post's (proof from
Xal0lex https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4861725.msg44151817#msg44151817 ) , so who can tell me the reason of my ban?
Help me please to solve my problem.
Is there a technical opportunity to see who and for what banned a certain user?



Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: hilariousandco on August 18, 2018, 06:03:31 PM

Thanks for your answer. If only my Eloncity's signature is not my reason to ban and I didn't "copy/past" in my only one post in global thread and in other local post's (proof from
Xal0lex https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4861725.msg44151817#msg44151817 ) , so who can tell me the reason of my ban?
Help me please to solve my problem.
Is there a technical opportunity to see who and for what banned a certain user?



The admins can see who banned who, but you probably won't find out the actual reason why that happened unless someone recalls why. It was either a mistake by staff (which will occasionally happen), or you did in fact break some rule. I'll PM theymos about it.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 18, 2018, 06:09:04 PM

The admins's can see who banned who, but you probably won't find out the actual reason why that happened unless someone recalls why. It was either a mistake by staff (which will occasionally happen), or you did in fact break some rule. I'll PM theymos about it.

Thanks for your time. Hope theymos will find what happend.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: hilariousandco on August 19, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
Turns out that it was me who in fact banned you. You wouldn't have been banned for merely being on the Elon city campaign though, so it was either a mistake on my part or you did do something wrong in some capacity but it can't be confirmed either way. I unbanned the account since I can't be sure. If you are completely innocent then I apologise for that.


Title: Re: Moderators, I'm sorry for my mistakes and hope you forgive me
Post by: crypto_nadra on August 19, 2018, 07:06:43 PM
Turns out that it was me who in fact banned you. You wouldn't have been banned for merely being on the Elon city campaign though, so it was either a mistake on my part or you did do something wrong in some capacity but it can't be confirmed either way. I unbanned the account since I can't be sure. If you are completely innocent then I apologise for that.

I am very grateful for the honesty! Really, thanks!