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Title: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: Ibian on February 25, 2014, 11:59:27 AM
Specifically, the "Gox getting acquired" bullshit. Is there anything to substantiate that other than a message in an otherwise empty html page?


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: ElectricMucus on February 25, 2014, 12:02:39 PM
It's called cognitive dissonance.


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: JCviggen on February 25, 2014, 12:04:25 PM
Specifically, the "Gox getting acquired" bullshit. Is there anything to substantiate that other than a message in an otherwise empty html page?

It's not so much about believing as playing the odds. Why do people "believe" an obvious fake document claiming over 700k coins have been lost/stolen?

I'm not believing anything, I'm weighing odds. The HTML comment is odd in the way that it is so redundant and unnecessary. But stuff has shown up and been removed a few times in the source today so the site is not actually abandoned at this point. There's not much reason to put anything at all on the site if it was shut down for good. It's not buying any meaningful time anymore at this point. In short, no theory makes total sense right now.


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: TERA on February 25, 2014, 12:05:07 PM
It's like santa claus, and magic, and religion. It will only work if you believe in it, and spread the good the word. Also maybe people don't believe it but are spreading the information to pump and dump their bitcoins and especially goxcoins.


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: Oldminer on February 25, 2014, 12:07:42 PM
Because people believe in magic?


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: T.Stuart on February 25, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
Specifically, the "Gox getting acquired" bullshit. Is there anything to substantiate that other than a message in an otherwise empty html page?

It's not so much about believing as playing the odds. Why do people "believe" an obvious fake document claiming over 700k coins have been lost/stolen?

I'm not believing anything, I'm weighing odds. The HTML comment is odd in the way that it is so redundant and unnecessary. But stuff has shown up and been removed a few times in the source today so the site is not actually abandoned at this point. There's not much reason to put anything at all on the site if it was shut down for good. It's not buying any meaningful time anymore at this point. In short, no theory makes total sense right now.

If only MK would write "Fuck you all!!" in the HTML that would give some sense of closure!  :)


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: T.Stuart on February 25, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
I just read the mtgox source code.


<html>
   <head>
      <title>MtGox.com</title>
   </head>
   <body>
      <!-- put announce for mtgox acq here -->
   </body>
</html>



What does acq mean?

At the moment it could mean anything from "acquisition" to "fuck you all!!".


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: ElectricMucus on February 25, 2014, 12:18:42 PM
ass clown quote (http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1y9fnq/quote_from_mark_carpeles_on_mt_gox_solvency/)



Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: Wilhelm on February 25, 2014, 12:20:14 PM
I do believe that their trading platform will get sold.
I do not believe people will get their money/BTC back  :-\


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: WompRat on February 25, 2014, 12:25:41 PM
It is logical to assume they are looking for someone to rescue them, but the liabilities at this stage look insurmountable.  The domains and new (untested?) trading engine will be sold off, but I can't see anyone wanting to take on the whole operation. 


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: AndrewGucci on February 25, 2014, 12:42:12 PM
Gox is dead, and ihope it is a good sign.


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: Hiroaki on February 25, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
At the moment nobody believes what Gox says. Results will speak for itself.
But it does not look too bloomy...

Why would any successful business act like this !


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: JCviggen on February 25, 2014, 12:45:13 PM
It is logical to assume they are looking for someone to rescue them, but the liabilities at this stage look insurmountable.  The domains and new (untested?) trading engine will be sold off, but I can't see anyone wanting to take on the whole operation. 

Well we don't know what the liabilities are precisely. I still think they could well have more of a fiat liquidity issue, they may have lost a truckload of coins but the 750k number from an obviously fake document is not something which should be reasonably considered at this point.


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: WompRat on February 25, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
It is logical to assume they are looking for someone to rescue them, but the liabilities at this stage look insurmountable.  The domains and new (untested?) trading engine will be sold off, but I can't see anyone wanting to take on the whole operation. 

Well we don't know what the liabilities are precisely. I still think they could well have more of a fiat liquidity issue, they may have lost a truckload of coins but the 750k number from an obviously fake document is not something which should be reasonably considered at this point.

I don't know why people are saying it is fake.  The Gox.com rebranding is in progress, the steps outlined and the financial numbers look right.  The only reason the bitcoin numbers look wrong are because it seems so staggeringly inept.  I am inclined to believe it.  We will see.


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: T.Stuart on February 25, 2014, 12:56:24 PM
It is logical to assume they are looking for someone to rescue them, but the liabilities at this stage look insurmountable.  The domains and new (untested?) trading engine will be sold off, but I can't see anyone wanting to take on the whole operation. 

Well we don't know what the liabilities are precisely. I still think they could well have more of a fiat liquidity issue, they may have lost a truckload of coins but the 750k number from an obviously fake document is not something which should be reasonably considered at this point.

I don't know why people are saying it is fake.  The Gox.com rebranding is in progress, the steps outlined and the financial numbers look right.  The only reason the bitcoin numbers look wrong are because it seems so staggeringly inept.  I am inclined to believe it.  We will see.

It's not the figures, its the style of writing. Just completely unprofessional. Oh, wait a minute!  ::)


Title: Re: Why do people still believe anything gox says?
Post by: Mythul on February 25, 2014, 12:59:26 PM
Hope dies really hard.