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There has been so much FUD/FOMO lately about the bitcoin ETF proposals, debates on its merits and demerits,  it makes me wonder. What is actually better for bitcoin, Is it some form of government regulations like ETF approvals or Gradual mass adoption of cryptos in general?  What's your take?

Bitcoin ETF proposal is an effort to increase Bitcoin adoption among investors and the gradual adoption of Bitcoin, in general, is the result obtained from various efforts, I can't compare it because efforts and results are two interrelated things

Adoption is way better than regulation for cryptos. If adoption rate increases, regulations will follow. But if regulation jumps into forefront, adoption rate may or may not slow down. However, adoption here means mass adoption by the general people like us and not by the corporates. If we see a big corporate adopting cryptos strictly for other institutional investors, it may not have much impact on the market. The better impact will happen when we will see bitcoin or other cryptos are accepted in the general stores and small service providers. It will make bigger impact on the crypto market.

For the same reason, I don't have much hope on the proposed bitcoin ETFs which is pending for decision by SEC. These are made only for large institutional investors and not for common mass like us!

Every thing in this world has merits and demerits.  Every coin has two sides.  Every day has a night.  Dark after light and light after a dark.

So much regulations will definitely destroy anything like communist countries' economy was destroyed  few years back.  But there is none economy where nil regulation is there. 

Open countries like USA England etc also have certain regulations. 

It is better if the bitcoin is adopted by the masses and has minor regulations.

The adaptation is much better. Putting more regulations feels like the market is depriving the people from their own free will.

Adoption of Bitcoin is far much better than regulation. With regulation the chance of Bitcoins mass adoption will get saturated. Regulation will basically enable goverment to control crypto market to a certain extent.
But at the moment when you check the market you will see a lot of manipulation going on to control the price. regulation will remove that issue.
But if there is a mass adoption of Bitcoin and Alt coins then it will not be possible to create manipulation in the market.
This is my view, i may be wrong..

The truth is that even if we are proclaiming to be pro-Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, only a handful can only say that they are anti-government to the point of saying that Bitcoin or cryptocurrency should go all-out against it. Only a few among us can say without flinching that whether or not the SEC would approve the ETF, they do not care a little. At the end of the day, we still want the governments and their agencies to acknowledge Bitcoin or crypto even if we do not agree with them trying to send the signal that they are more powerful.

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies needs to be regulated first inorder that adoption will going smooth many people think that crypto is just a scheme and not to be trusted as it is illegal like other countries stated but if it will be regulated then we can see the mass adoption will be fast.  

Some people consider Bitcoin as illegal, regulations will bring sense of security to masses, regulated thing can't be illegal.

absolutely right, isn't bitcoin created so that no third party interferes in the transaction.
but if that is only a tax regulation from the bitcoin holder I think that doesn't matter.

You can't compare adoption to regulation.It's like comparing apples with bananas.
Regulation means RULES,while adoption means USAGE of cryptocurrencies in daily life.
The rules can influence the usage of crypto in a good or in a bad way.You can't compare two things,if the first has impact over the second thing.

The ETF isn't a government related affair, but it will allow institutional investors to participate in bitcoin trading. Regulation will help mainstream adoption by providing a legal framework so really both is needed to succeed

see the adaptation of bitcoin and cryptocurrency
much better. Placing more rules and people will be arranged then we can see the future adoption

Right now it's the only option I see for it to be stabilised. I mean com on, you can't be serious to start making think it's the same curriency as Fiat when you look at the chart..
Who the stupid will think it can be spent in a daylife situation?

Others might say it's a Scam, but all we need it to get more money in , and we need country to start stabilise by legalise it.

Some people consider Bitcoin as illegal, regulations will bring sense of security to masses, regulated thing can't be illegal.

I don't know what a big impact it will have on crypto if bitcoin ETFs are approved but what I think is now that bitcoin needs good news from ETF proposals to make the price rise again

Both adoption and regulation in this order is good for the overall success and continous growth of cryptocurrencies.
More user participation would increase adoption and regulation will build trust and confidence.

Mass adoption is the key :)

Definitely adoption.

Bitcoin never was meant to be regulated by the government.
Satoshi created bitcoin as a currency to be independent from any government or governmental regulated financial system.

Regulations may bring in new investors. This might drive up the price (short term). But for bitcoin to really succeed and be an established currency around the world, mass adoption is needed.
Regulations can help here, but are definitely not required.

Adoption without regulation can work pretty well. But regulation without adoption won't let bitcoin succeed in the long term.

From economical asset perspective of course it is better for bitcoin to be adopted from the side of regulations, ETF`s etc. But from the perspective of a technology it would be better for goverment to leave crypto alone

Adoption through regulations is the best way to get a lot of new investors in this market as many people are not entering this market because of no regulation if any fraud happens. Regulations create huge value for bitcoin as demand grows significantly but supply is shorting day by day.

That's right. I think we should separate regulation and control. While both involve some institutions intervening, the former creates the legal basis for operations and partial price manipulation and the latter presupposes complete price manipulation and possession of at least significant supply. Futures contracts are basically also a way a regulating bitcoin, and this involves serious price manipulation, because the real price is not even taken into consideration. ETF approval is a way to make investments purely legal and the price is supposed to be approximately what's on the market. Btc control is not possible at all, because even a legislation forbidding to use bitcoin doesn't mean that btc will really not be used or anything. And the marketcap of btc is so huge that buying a control package seems close to impossible.

There is little chance of mass adoption of bitcoin without any regulation since people fear that they might lose their money. Imposing regulations on bitcoin will surely increase safety and trust but the regulations should be kept to a minimum. If we get the ETF approval then we’ll see a huge volume increase in bitcoin which might result in a higher price.

Same opinion bro, regulation is just an action of the government to protect its citizen from different scams from crypto industry. Well, at first, we can see that it will effect negatively on price but in the long run it may do good because the government itself will endorsed cryptocurrency to its citizen and thus promoting mass adoption.

in my opinion, this is indeed very necessary, this is to provide an opportunity to be able to maintain the stability of bitcoin prices, and the future of bitcoin clearly, with regulations, this indicates that bitcoin has a place. This is a step that must be done in my opinion.

I think adaption offers bigger impact on crypto market rather than regulation. Regulation shrinks the opportunities but adaption increases opportunities. So in my opinion adaptation is better than regulation

I think adoption is better than regulation for bitcoin. Too much regulation can destroy an economy, though there has to be some regulation in the economy. Bitcoins should be adopted by a huge number of people, it will be better for the economy.

Both scenario will surely help bitcoin succeed however, the most plausible one is the mass adoption first, regulations follow. Governments only regulate certain type of asset class/investments if it see that public attention towards it is high. If people already adopt bitcoin right before regulation, there's a solid foundation for survival, regulation only strengthens the masses' confidence about it. Whereas in the opposite scenario, no one would dare touch bitcoin if regulations and taxes are already in place; no one would take hefty profits and no one would be interested as it would seem like bitcoin is just like stocks and derivatives, only with a sassy name.

Both are required as adoption requires some regulations because it is a digital currency and those who adopt it as a payment require some rulings as per their country laws. If it is adopted then it will be regulated and it will change the whole market scenario and a huge demand come out from new investors.

Adoption is probably the better. I can't see any regulations during the first 5 years of bitcoin. Only adoption of people were present and look at the growth, it is strong right? So, adoption is clearly the better way.

Adoption of Regulations will better for bitcoin because by the adoption of regulations a lot of new investors will entering in this market, those are not interested before due to fear of fraud in absence of any regulations. It increases the demand for bitcoin and helps to make a new high of bitcoin.

Definitely, adoption is better for bitcoin at first. If mass adoption happens then automatically regulation will take place. But if regulation is started before adoption then it can be both positive or negative for bitcoin.

well to be honest I can't compare this two things, their results and systems both are very different from each other so I would say that you should gather information about them so that you can choose on your own that which one is better for you

I think adoption is way better because if many people will use bitcoin in the next years, the government of different countries will follow regulating it.

This Bitcoin ETF is just another step into the Bitcoin's massive adoption. If this will be approved, this can be a reason to the rise of the price of bitcoin. If not, then it can go lower than the key support.

The issue that mentions Bitcoin and other crypto are just schemes and untrustworthy because they are illegal, and many countries forbid Bitcoin to cause big doubts in the minds of new investors, so Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency needs to be regulated in advance so that adoption will run smoothly because of the trust of new investors,so that we can see mass adoption will be fast.

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no we won't. because cases like this are mostly related to altcoins and altcoin exchanges which happen to be unregulated and unknown. and people will always use these, maybe even more in case of regulations. for example if exchanges in US such as Bittrex and Poloniex start being regulated and ask for hefty taxes from their users as they report all their activities to IRS, everyone would leave and migrate to other platforms and many of them being bad means scam cases like these would continue to happen, even more than before.

I personally prefer adoption rather than regulation because bitcoin is that kind of thing which is beyond regulation and if it is regulated then it just lost its value.

Bitcoin ETF proposition is a push to build Bitcoin reception among financial specialists and the slow appropriation of Bitcoin, all in all, is the outcome got from different endeavors, I can't look at it since endeavors and results are two interrelated things.

 Have you ever wondered why government is bent of having Bitcoin destroyed or at list have it regulated? just because their selfish interest is not captured by the way Bitcoin operates, regulate Bitcoin and destroy its future or allow it be naturally adopted and it shall leave forever.

Of course adoption will serve a better reliable for bitcoin. As regulation will give room for manipulations and at end will favor the same set of persons we are aiming to defeat. I fear regulations will give back power to the capitalist.

If we are to choose the best way for bitcoin is adoption ,because it will just directly merge to what people want for a new dimensions in the digital world, while regulation it will passed to some hard requirements to comply, for bitcoin will be legit to be use.

Selection is route superior to control for cryptos. In the event that the reception rate expands, controls will take after. In any case, if direction bounces into the front line, the selection rate could possibly back off. In any case, reception here means mass selection by the general individuals like us and not by the corporates.

To me, adoption is better than regulation in case of bitcoin. Regulation follows the increase of adoption. But it is not the same if regulation increases. That's why adoption of bitcoin by the normal people is needed for the bitcoin economy.

Adoption of bitcoin among the normal people will improve the economy to a great extent. On the other hand, too much regulation hampers an economy. So, I think, adaption is better than regulaion in many ways.

From my opinion obviously adoption is better than regulation. But i think ETF will be good for bitcoin. Because it will attract more investors in the market which will good for the market.

Everything in this world has benefits and negative marks. But, So many regulations may affect the adaptability of new users. In any case, there is none economy where nil control is there. Open nations like USA England and so forth likewise have certain controls.

Bitcoin are more potential and profitable. if bitcoin get ETF approval it will  be increasing investor security. it will make more profit for investor. people are increasing their investment here. it is a very good sign for bitcoin.

ETF is creating biggest hypes for bitcoin. If it is approved by SEC then the prices will massively change from my opinion. And i think it will go to the positive side of the price scale.

Regulations can be appreciated sometimes. But most of the times they create some obstacles in decentralized system. So i think adoption is much needed for cryptocurrencies.

bitcoin are more trusted and reliable. if bitcoin get ETF approval it will be more secure and perform better service than other. it will make sure your profit and security. its future are more bright.

No one guarantee your profit. Everything is possible in this market. After ETF approval we might see a price rise. But after that there is no guarantee for the long term.

Actually they are interconnected. I can’t compare this. When adoption is increased then regulation will be followed. But it’s true if mass adoption will happen then it will impact significantly in the market.

I think EFT proposal is an effort to rise bitcoin acceptance. I believe result come from various efforts. Its very difficult to compare because this two things are interrelated.

The best way to make bitcoin better is not by the impose of regulations on bitcoin. I believe adoption to this new trend of transacting for goods and services, will be the better way for bitcoin.

Adoption is more preferable to me because very much regulation can destroy the cryptoeconomy. So I think mass adoption will be impactful and it will be good for everyone.

ETF is just a way to increase adoption of bitcoin by investors. But gradual adoption in general is a result of many facts. Both are different things.

i think both are need according to situation. both are important in limited situation.access adoption and regulation are not good at all.

There are many advantages due to which bitcoin adoption is more preferable than regulations to me. Adoption will make transaction much cheaper, secure and speedy. Currency will be more interoperable due to global payment with BTC adoption.

the catalyst for adoption of cryptocurrency, as well as any bleeding-edge technologies, requires a low barrier to entry. By understanding and appreciating the value that cryptocurrency introduces for the future, users will understand that it is not only good for buying drugs or conducting other illegal transactions. Building apps that lower the barrier to entry will also encourage more user adoption, as signups don’t require knowledge of wallets, addresses, or MetaMask.

The ETF isn't really a governmental regulation on bitcoin, but I'm not sure why we have to choose between either regulations or adoption either. Why not both? One will lead to the other anyway and regulations are coming whether you like it or not. The other option is to criminalize bitcoin or ban it outright. Do you want that? If bitcoin is going to be used as a currency or an asset then it is going to have regulations placed upon it eventually. This is good in that it is finally being acknowledged as legitimate asset or payment vehicle by the powers that be and is the path to acceptance. Whether bitcoin is regulated or not it also doesn't stop you from using it in any which way you want either. Don't want regulations? Then don't use services that require them. We obviously need adoption more than anything but the ETF is just one more route towards that and will certainly pump a heck of a lot more money into the cyrptosphere which is always a good thing.

I think adoption and regulation is interrelated. The more adoption rate increases the more regulations will be automated, more efficient and comparatively less restricted. Besides with adoption the financial freedom will be more.

The truth is that even if we proclaim to be pro-Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, only a handful can say that they are anti-government to the point of saying that Bitcoin or cryptocurrency must go all out against it.

from my opinion adoption is better than the regulation. if you control the adoption, regulation will be automatically controlled.

Government has no business in bitcoin regulation and can't do anything about it. The ETF is just a FUD that is making traders anticipate the potential price of bitcoin in case it come to pass. Bitcoin is for the community and their decision count than government.

I think , adoption is preferable .
If bitcoin can be widely accepted, it will improve on so many businesses and society in general.
So what we need right now , is to improve on the various key technologies of blockain.

I personally believe that adoption of Bitcoin will create more opportunities for investors. But with the scams happens in the Crypto space leads to establish some regulations which is much needed for investors protection. Since Bitcoin is the main fact here to consider, it should not to be manipulated by few holders, institutions or countries. Hence regulations should be taken in to practical level of using, string & transferring bitcoin. Since the Crypto at the consolidation period it can take time to adopt as well as regulate. It will happen with the importance & efficiency lying behind in this amazing blockchain technology.

As we saw with the 'Bitlicence' in New York State a while back, it's pretty easy for regulators to screw it up and create bad regulation. I'd say in theory there could be good regulation that has a positive effect, but in reality I don't expect your average politician to come anywhere near knowing how to do that.

according to ETF decision i think for bitcoin adoption is better than regulation. regulation is depends on adoption rate. so it is better for you to focus on adoption.

Adoption and regulation both are good for cryptoconcines. But we need more detailed knowledge about it because in many cases adoption works as a good way than regulation.

I go for adoption of bitcoin.
The bitcoin structure is a decentralized one, so i do not believe any government can do anything about it.

Actually ETF approval will do more harm to the bitcoin and crypto currencies because then people will use bitcoin just for the trading purpose in great extent then it will cause the too much of price fluctuations results in peole will get away from the crypto currencies to be used from it a money.

We simply need adoption.  The last thing we need is the government making rules for us to live under.  I choose freedom.  If the money is free the people will flock to it. 

I think if there are so many regulations then bitcoin will be useless in future. So, in my opinion, there should be a regulation but shouldn’t be in extreme.

Since this is a circular move or adoption of the ETF quinine, it can have a big impact on the ETP cryptor. So I think Bitcoin needs the good news of the ETF offer for price hike. And bitcoin may be renewed through ETF.

adoption of bitcoin is a much better way but this adoption also comes with a least regulation to prevent from using this cryptos to illegal use.Adoption of these cryptos is another innovative solutions that makes everyone lives more efficient and convienient.Detailed regulations is a general entities should be done for these cryptocurrencies.

Adoption and regulation both can be help the bitcoin to have a better platform worldwide but  I hope adoption will be better for bitcoin to be more improved.

It is better to have some regulations on cryptocurrencies like bitcoin. If it is possible then the people will get some security in case of investing.

Regulation will be help bitcoin to improve but not always. Sometimes regulation restrict bitcoin to be a common currency.

Now, most of the people can’t buy crypto coins because of no regulation. So, if the regulation of the bitcoin is increased then it will be good for future.

If we have regulations then I think manipulation can be minimize and adoption will increase as more investors will have confidence that the market will grow bigger. Let's just hope that this ETF will give the crypto a positive impacts that could be a savior on this technology.

Both I guess. It is better for bitcoin to be adopted not by only some countries but all around the globe. Bitcoin serving as the pioneer of cryptocurrency shows the development or advancement of how we transact with everyone. Once it has been adopted, its use should be regulated. Everything that is too much or too less is not good. Having the negative issues involving bitcoin as of now should be lessen or much better be avoided for the betterment of bitcoin and its users.

A regulation on cryptocurrency would be a big help for the adoption to move forward. There are some institutions or businesses that wanted to invest in cryptocurrency; however, there is no clear regulation yet that's why they can't just easily get involved with it. Some people too backed out when they learn that it is no regulated because there will be no one they can turn to in times when they would have a problem with their investments. It is one of the things that we are looking when we invest in traditional investments.

It would be better for cryptocurrency world to have mass adoption because in this way, we know that there is demand to the coin but before that happens, a regulation is just in the corner because they wouldn't just let it be a major currency without the authorities getting involved.

I don't think this is true. People have been buying bitcoins for as long as they have been created with or with any regulations. Even years ago before they became mainstream you could us many exchanges which required little to no verification. there are still some that don't require full KYC and so on. That's obviously now mostly changed but it's just one more step in the right direction that bitcoin is taking into the mainstream and regulation in a natural process to adoption. We can only hope that it's not just too heavily regulated which could be disruptive but I don't think that will be the case.

I'll choose mass adoption of cryptos because with mass adoption, we can attract more people to come and use crypto and if we can become bigger then the government will thinking to accept crypto as a new legal thing. besides that, there is a chance for the governments to research what is the most benefits of the crypto so people attract to join in the crypto world. and after the government accepts the crypto, they will make a regulation for the crypto but not to control the crypto but maybe the government can get some benefits from the crypto itself.

I think its adoption, because if we adopt bitcoin then it will become more famous and familiarized all over the world , and if that thing happened then bitcoin life will become more lively and successful

If some things are doing too much then it is bad based on this nowadays there are so many rules are coming based on this market as a result it may cause of backfire.

If bitcoin can adopt something which they needed they will be more sustainable and popular in crypto market.

ETF is important in just one factor that is if it gets approval, many people of America and abroad will come to invest in BTC. But BTC market doesn't really rely on this ETF hype. BTC market is free and it will get its run with or without any of these hypes.

Nowadays there are many rules and regulations coming based on this so it is really embarrassing to for us because it may cause of backfiring.

Based on this market there are many regulations is coming some are good based on this market but nowadays so many regulations are coming which is really difficult.

Bitcoin ETF is a strategy for mass adoption of Bitcoin. But the US securities and exchange commission are hesitant to approve it as there are no laws and regulations in the decentralized cryptocurrency market. Bitcoin ETF is required so that Bitcoin gets mass adopted easily.

I think there will be no mass adoption without the regulation being implemented first. More people  would be attracted to adopt something that is regulated for investment security because more people are not risk takers specially investors who earned their resources through hardwork.

An overdose of anything is bad. Likewise, if there are too many regulations going on in this market, then it will backfire.

There are ETF proposal from government and it has also advantages and disadvantages if I take I would take the adoption it is better then the regulations.

Even if the general public adopts cryptocurrencies without too much regulation, I think it would be better for the future of the cryptocurrency. However, there are two good and bad aspects of everything. Adoption is more important.

The majority will go for adoption instead of regulations. Adoption increases the participation in the market for the investors while regulations just complicates things further.

If the recent events are showing us anything is that bitcoin is not going to be adopted massively in either of the two options that you are giving, personally I think that bitcoin is going to be adopted once it becomes a necessity, many people do not see the necessity of something like bitcoin, they simply do not understand it, but in countries like Argentina, Venezuela and Zimbabwe they understand very well why they need bitcoin.

And once a serious crisis strikes the world, one from which it is impossible to maintain the current status quo people will begin to look for answers to what it is happening and what to do to protect themselves, many will choose gold as they have done for centuries but there will be many that will choose bitcoin instead.

Bitcoin should not be regulated because it is decentralized. ETF approvals only makes speculators of crypto manipulate the market.
It is better no government involved for cryptocurrency i think, because it is only causing some high volatility in the price of crypto.

I think regulation is much better because we can't achieve so much a people adopting it if they still see it is not regulated. People will have still doubts on whether they will use it or not but when they know it is regulated, they will have worry-free and use it very gladly.

Both are beneficial for me, adoption of the whole world that it will legally use and the soft regulation on it so it will be great. If others will adopt the use of bitcoin and other crypto currency I am sure that the demand will be high and so thus the price, there's the point it should be regulated to maintain the good phase and who knows if that moment comes bitcoins price would slowly stabilize because it is regulated and bitcoin's quantity is limited, that is my opinion.

In many cases, adoption brings good results and so Bitcoin ETF is not expected much because it may done for a large organization. I guess, it is hard to produce the same result for the general investors.

I don’t think it’s an either/or situation. I do believe regulation is a pre-requisite towards mass adoption. I don’t think regulation is meant to undermine crypto, but rather, it can create order and trust –which can serve as a solid foundation for this future global currency to exist.

 ETF Bitcoin adalah upaya untuk meningkatkan adopsi Bitcoin di kalangan investor dan adopsi Bitcoin secara bertahap, secara umum, usaha tidak akan membohongi Hasil

Yes it is very necessary, this is to provide an opportunity to be able to maintain the stability of Bitcoin prices, and the future of Bitcoin clearly, with regulations, this shows that Bitcoin has a place. Therefore regulations must be brought to the practical level of using, string and transferring Bitcoin. That will happen with the importance and efficiency behind this excellent blockchain technology.

If we want Bitcoin to be what it was originally created to be, then we would not want government regulations. I think the main reason for the creation of Bitcoin was to have a means to store, send, or make transactions without any involvement from a government or bank. Obviously we already have some government regulations, but to stay true to the original intent, it should be completely decentralized and unregulated.

it is good if it will happen for the some countries. because if we adopt and regulate the bitcoin and allowed it to flow in our country i am sure that the bitcoin and government in each country will have an benefit for each other. i don't understand why they afraid of the bitcoin if they only regulate it they think about negative only but the positive effect they don't care

Cryptocurrency regulations in many countries is inevitable because the organization of wealthy countries like G20 has been planning to create a global regulation that is acceptable to their member countries. But it is possible to adopt a cryptocurrency while imposing regulation to any crypto exchanges if the aim is to protect the holders from scams and other illegal activities that uses cryptocurrencies.

A few people may say that they are the government against the point that Bitcoin or electronic money should go all out against it. Bitcoin is destroyed or the list has been adjusted just for the sake of selfishness. They were not captured by Bitcoin's way of working, tuning Bitcoin and destroying its future

Bitcoin might be decentralized, but systems that use it like payment processors aren't and are in fact the opposite. The ETF is a centralized system governed by a governmental body and that's what this is about. You've also got to remember Bitcoin is like being your own bank and whether we like it or not banks or those institutions that deal with cash payments are going to need regulating.

I think the ETF for Bitcoin will help the industry as a whole, although it hasn't been passed yet, but this approach and some of the regulatory measures for Bitcoin are designed to regulate the industry as a whole, which is good for the expansion of the Bitcoin community.

Adoption and regulations both are necessary for bitcoin development but adopting the bitcoin on a large scale will make the ways to regulate bitcoin and will help to increase market cap of bitcoin. But if the bitcoin is regulated first without being adopted on a large scale then it will constrain the government to set distortions in the bitcoin trading and people will look bitcoin as a suspicious thing and will easily concede against strong opposition. So, it should first be adopted on a large scale.

Now-a-days people's are afraid to come and investing in Bitcoin or other crypto currencies because they think here is no regulation and if any fraud will happen, then where they will go for justice. And according to me, adoption and regulations both are compulsory for this crypto industry. If these things imposed on crypto world then definitely we will see a lots of new investors will come to this crypto industry and because of this the huge volume will increase in crypto currencies price.
I think this is the only way to make crypto purely legal and become people fearless for investing in crypto's.

Even if the public through electronic money without too much regulation, I think it would be better for the future of electronic money. Adoption is more important. Adoption increases market participation for investors while rules only complicate things. People will still have doubts about whether they will use it or not but when they know it is regulated, they will have worry-free and use it with great fun.