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Title: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: kirreev070 on August 13, 2018, 11:48:23 AM

Link:
WEBSITE https://www.ubex.com/
WHITPAPER https://www.ubex.com/wp/Ubex-Whitepaper-en.pdf?1907
ANN THREAD https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3393244
TELEGRAM https://t.me/UbexAI
FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/UbexAl/
TWITTER https://twitter.com/ubex_ai/
LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/ubex-ai

Firstly, Artem Chestnov it's one of the founders of the Ubex project worked in scam project Latoken.

https://preview.ibb.co/fK1dmU/2018_08_13_13_44_13.png (https://ibb.co/jv4aY9) https://image.ibb.co/g7QqY9/2018_08_13_13_56_22.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Proof:
https://www.trackico.io/member/artem-chestnov/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/artem-chestnov-aa5461/

Receiving money

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*AkybMsFdxGqNjZlj3uwE3g.png

Receiving money in ETH is carried out to a single address 0x2cc1060de78aa44e3e6a86102fac93f1de49adb2, and to receive BTC, LTC (possibly something else), personally generated wallets are used for each user. This gives at once a package of potential threats and problems. Such as:

Receiving money for different wallets means that no one can check, but whether the money was collected. Smart contract 0x2cc1060d ** sends money only to the beneficiary's purse https://etherscan.io/address/0xf8eed1ae306a07d8899de8dabc3783974a680830 At the moment there is 6,017 ETH. The site says that they received 23,773 ETH
Why do they make individual wallets for BTC? In order to make it easier to identify the investor.
In case of hacking, a hacker, a disloyal programmer, an admin of web hosting and so on can secretly substitute the algorithm for generating personal purses, then hacking will not be detected quickly enough. If the purse was a single one, the investors themselves would start asking questions. The threat of losing money and not noticing breaking in time is a serious justification why you can not collect money for personal wallets

Distribution tokens

https://etherscan.io/token/0x6704b673c70de9bf74c8fba4b4bd748f0e2190e1
From this page it can be seen that the company's programmer from the wallet 0x474e028b9710bef801D3a0bA3c282e729C0e3591 received tokens at the publication of the contract, thanks to this code

Code:

contract UbexToken is DetailedERC20, StandardToken, BurnableToken, PausableToken {
function UbexToken( uint256 totalSupply ) DetailedERC20 ( “UBEX Token”, “UBEX”, 18 ) 
{
totalSupply_ = totalSupply;
balances[msg.sender] = totalSupply;
}
}

Further, the main smart contract only distributes tokens, and only for ETH. Tokens for non-ETH will be distributed at the request of the builder, and the remainder at his own will probably promise to be burned.
From this we can conclude:

Tokens are distributed at will of the person
There is no point in a smart contract, because they are easily manipulated by a person.
Founder can deceive investors, for example, by sending someone tokens more than they paid, or or do not burn off the extra.

Smart contract

The management of ICO is completely manual, which indicates an extremely low technical level of the company.

The start / end of the ICO is determined by the state of the variable "closed". The value of the variable is set by the owner of the Crowdsale contract.
It should be noted that the builder can resume sales after completion without any restrictions.

Code:

 function closeCrowdsale(bool closed_) public onlyOwner {
      closed = closed_;
}

Discounts and bonuses are also entered manually using the method:

Code:

function setBonusMultiplier(uint256 bonusMultiplier_) public onlyOwner {
       bonusMultiplier = bonusMultiplier_;
}

Investor does not receive tokens immediately. Tokens put to it will be stored in the associative array of balances.
And the funds contributed by the investor go to the wallet of founder.

Code:

 function _processPurchase(address _beneficiary, uint256 _tokenAmount) internal {
       require(!hasClosed());
       balances[_beneficiary] = balances[_beneficiary].add(_tokenAmount);
       tokensIssued = tokensIssued.add(_tokenAmount);
}

In this case, the owner can at any time increase the value of the tokens intended for any purse, for example, for himself:

Code:

function addTokens(address _beneficiary, uint256 _tokenAmount) public onlyOwner {
       balances[_beneficiary] = balances[_beneficiary].add(_tokenAmount);
       tokensIssued = tokensIssued.add(_tokenAmount);
       emit TokenAdded(_beneficiary, _tokenAmount);
}

Also about them negatively spoke Ian Balina (https://twitter.com/DiaryofaMadeMan)

https://image.ibb.co/mANUAp/2018_08_13_15_00_46.png (https://ibb.co/bXfGqp)

Edit: I know that this is not a sign of scam, but they extended the ICO for one month.

http://cryptobotanika.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/iko.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/g2z1qp/2018_08_13_15_51_04.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Source (http://standartico.com/ru/blog/ubex-audit)

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: pinkman12345 on August 13, 2018, 12:02:38 PM

Their contract is weird, but doesn't seems malicious. I re analysed the code and found that they are still using some deprecated methods. Even they can add tokens to address without buying from exchange.

Code:

function addTokens(address _beneficiary, uint256 _tokenAmount) public onlyOwner {
       balances[_beneficiary] = balances[_beneficiary].add(_tokenAmount);
       tokensIssued = tokensIssued.add(_tokenAmount);
       emit TokenAdded(_beneficiary, _tokenAmount);
}

I dont see this as negative but as a trick, Anyhow coming to the founding team profile i can recall this guy was associated with Latoken. I would like to hear from trusted members of forum on this issue.
Ubex confirms a partnership with Nvidia recently but i doubt this project will ever fly with colors but will land like swissborg,paragoncoin.

Edit: Its not a front scam but to snatch crypto from foolish investors in a legit way.
Dictum: Fool and his crypto are soon departed.

Edit: don't believe on Ian Balina's words, he is on side who has heavy money.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: allahabadi on August 13, 2018, 03:58:09 PM

Quote from: pinkman12345 on August 13, 2018, 12:02:38 PM

Code:

function addTokens(address _beneficiary, uint256 _tokenAmount) public onlyOwner {
       balances[_beneficiary] = balances[_beneficiary].add(_tokenAmount);
       tokensIssued = tokensIssued.add(_tokenAmount);
       emit TokenAdded(_beneficiary, _tokenAmount);
}

FTFY ;D

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: atmanagari on August 14, 2018, 01:40:54 PM

thank you for the info. I saw ubex already launched the bounty which require invest (buy) ubex token first.
In my opinion, that is not a bounty. But just an ubex tokensale, covered or named as "bounty".
funny trick to sell their token

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: yorndoe on August 15, 2018, 01:56:11 AM

but ubex already listed on CMC. how can they scam

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: krizscreew on August 15, 2018, 04:07:18 AM

I hope not SCAM

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: rivsal on August 15, 2018, 04:18:34 AM

Good info , but i still not understand , them has been listed on Coinmarketcap and list in few exhanger .. oh maybe them just give little volume to tiny market and them run with money from investor , hahaha huge profit for them and nice work LOL

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: yorndoe on August 15, 2018, 04:28:36 AM

Quote from: rivsal on August 15, 2018, 04:18:34 AM

LOL Ubex extended ICO for 1 month, That sign this token doenst make sense. CMC is CoinMarketCap not IcoMarketCap

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Jarwo09 on August 15, 2018, 06:39:36 AM

the info is very good ... it just needs to be aware of how investors should be careful in participating in ico ...
but I'm very sure ... ubex is one of the very good proeyek ...
and it can't be a scam ...

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: MrHertz on August 15, 2018, 12:18:46 PM

That was unexpected for me, this project looks very trustful. We have two ways, first, this project is scam and all this true. Second, this project isn't scam and we have really useful good project. But anyway i hope this project isn't scam.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Astargath on August 18, 2018, 06:11:29 PM

They claim they sold like 4000 Ethereum in one day, they should have reached their other hard cap of 28k in no time plus they are already (somehow) listed on a few exchanges and actually trading at a higher price than the ICO? They claim it's their partners, I suspect they might be selling and buying the coins themselves to fool people into buying more, seems really sketchy to me.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: KenChanYu on August 18, 2018, 11:24:36 PM

Quote from: Astargath on August 18, 2018, 06:11:29 PM

The manipulations really took place now and the attracted people were falling into their traps. Suspecious moves gathered negative reactions and speculations from holders now, and they can't stop us from saying our opinions over fraudulent actions they had. I wish that they will make clear statements against their scam accusations on this thread, or any other public renounced media. If they do it fairly and proved their end was good and transparent to people, then we have no problems to that.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: blobbyheadstone on August 19, 2018, 06:28:09 PM

This looks very scammy.

Their ICO stats are stuck on 24,621 ETH / 85 % and they are listed on exchanges where the token is traded for 5-6x of the ICO value. (e.g IDEX)
Also I can't find an end date for their ICO on their site.

The fact that you don't have to pass the KYC before you can send them tokens also doesn't add trust to me. Of course they are stating that in the event of a not successful process they refund the tokens.

Are there legit ICO's which handle KYC like this these days? (its been a while since I participated in them)

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: chocolah29 on August 20, 2018, 03:02:50 AM

You guys should tag the bounty manager though he's just managing the bounty campaign but he should be aware of this scam accusation and can take further action in this matter. And if he doesn't want to loss the trust then he should deem appropriate action.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1907057

I joined their signature campaign before but when they extended the ico even they almost reached the hard cap and being trading on bitforex, it straightened up my mind and leave the bounty.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Patmille on August 20, 2018, 03:17:49 AM

oh wtf my friends already invested in ubex its a bad news for them , they were attracted by the 5000 ubex bonus upon purchase of their referrals. luckily i didnt invest anything , i just joined their drop. i just hope that this is not true.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Sivainvest on August 21, 2018, 06:41:15 PM

Quote from: Patmille on August 20, 2018, 03:17:49 AM

unfortunately, this is true my friend. there are other signs of csam which was not mentioned above.
about listing - this is total fake. no single investor still have not their tokens. so these scammerm just did listings to attract more fishes and manipulate the price as they want.
they say on website thay they just sold XXX Ubex tokens for YYY BTC several minutes ago. That is not true.
Their meter is fake, they paint it by themselves as most of ICO do nowadays. Not best days for ICOs gentlemen...

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: anobtc on August 23, 2018, 05:53:53 PM

Well they have a top advertising banner on Coinmarketcap for nearly a month. So I guess they spend a lot of fund for marketing. On the banner, I saw they partnered with Cocacola and Nvidia lol. And it's strange that an ICO which has not finished, was listed on exchanges, and I think it's tokens from their team. They pump its price by themselves to attract more investors.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: stejas on August 25, 2018, 11:47:11 AM

I met the CEO of Ubex at the International Blockchain Conference. I was almost pissed off, at the way they were selling. I was at a loss to understand what they were trying to do.

Met an acquaintance on Day 2 who said they were going to release the tokens in 5 days, so he purchased immediately. I was so unhappy.

In 5 days, they met their Hardcap and then decided to increase it. In this scenario where ICOs are not getting funded, there is this ICO which increases the hardcap.

Joke.

Of course, they probably unlocked a few thousand coins so that they can show that it is trading at 5-6x. Idex and Bitforex should immediately stop trading.

Feel sorry for the people who have invested - I mean this looks a legit scam. Nothing an ICO holder can do, I guess. Noobs getting rekted.

Regards,
Tejas

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: deppil90 on September 08, 2018, 09:42:35 PM

I already invested in this project, because in sales, I was interested in many people joining ico, but after some time they claimed to have been in the hardcap position, but they forced to open ico again, I started to suspect, this is the first project to force second hardcap

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: ziadabuqasem on September 11, 2018, 12:02:59 PM

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THEY ARE SCAMMERS OR NOT ASK THE CEO TO PASTE HIS IDS
PASSPORT COPY.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on September 11, 2018, 03:23:16 PM

We have conducted a review and founded that UBEX is SCAM -> https://shitcoinoffering.com/ubex-ico-machine-will-never-rise/

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: pahang22 on September 12, 2018, 12:00:01 PM

something really incredible. and this icodrops is a very bad situation

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on September 17, 2018, 09:25:06 AM

This research shows all the truth about UBEX

https://shitcoinoffering.com/ubex-ico-machine-will-never-rise/

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f67a2382715f1adb60c29506180181b1f6099df0ccb42349b8ef63b11b3f865.jpg

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: G4t1s on September 20, 2018, 08:04:49 PM

I also stay away from UBEX.

Why?

1. Google UBEX reviews and you will get 90% negative reviews on facebook or twitter.
2. First ICO I see where they demand you to spend 1 ETH as minimal purchase anything below that counts as donation.
3. Way too much advertising , seems like they rather spend money for advertising than product itself.
4. Team +/- 15 members.

I predict massive downfall straight after going into exchanges.
I would recommend research on this before investing.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on September 25, 2018, 02:11:47 PM

https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=501093950922

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Astargath on September 25, 2018, 03:05:38 PM

Quote from: shitcoinoffering on September 25, 2018, 02:11:47 PM

https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=501093950922

Link doesn't work

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: lyfecoin on September 25, 2018, 04:03:41 PM

I don't think it is scam (so far).But going by the similar ICOs in the past ,which have overhyped their projects and invested huge money in advertising/promotions this one (UBEX) will meet a similar fate.They are interested only in collecting huge money from investors and not their product speak to itself.After a few months this coin will end up trading under a cent and as another shitcoin

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on September 26, 2018, 11:42:05 AM

Quote from: shitcoinoffering on September 26, 2018, 11:41:43 AM

Quote from: Astargath on September 25, 2018, 03:05:38 PM

Quote from: shitcoinoffering on September 25, 2018, 02:11:47 PM

https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=501093950922

Link doesn't work

https://ibb.co/d8pebp

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on September 28, 2018, 08:52:46 AM

Quote from: ajsexylove on September 27, 2018, 12:40:51 PM

I don't think so that this ICO is a scam because they all ready invested big amount of money and got listed in many big exchange market and also invested in promotion. But this will end in cent after their ICO the token will surely dump.

Bro, where did you see big exchanges ? Do you mean scam exchanges like these in the list? By the way, there are many scam exchanges now, for example a well-known exchange as KuCoin is also scam (https://bit.ly/2N6I0AD (https://bit.ly/2N6I0AD)). Bro, be careful and think before trust :)
https://preview.ibb.co/j4ny99/2018_09_28_11_48_16.png (https://ibb.co/enQUGp)

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: pinoy.bolanon on September 30, 2018, 07:56:37 PM

Its weird you know, they already listed on CMC, and a lot of investors of ubex. We could not judge it by now, but if they would have no intention to scam and could perform well in the market,. then its better for us.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 01, 2018, 12:16:26 PM

By the way, investors cannot withdraw their money to wallets...

https://preview.ibb.co/ghpOie/2018_10_01_12_11_35.png (https://ibb.co/h7hyGz)

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Hosam Mazawi on October 01, 2018, 12:51:24 PM

Ubex Token Sale seems foggy
We have noticed something unusual with Ubex Token Sale recently and as part of our vision in Cointelligence to open the blockchain and crypto industry to the masses and lead an open, transparent, and fair trade, we felt the need to share this with the community.
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/ubex-token-sale/

https://twitter.com/Cointelligencec/status/1046721412474523648

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 03, 2018, 08:39:13 AM

It's an Ubex token price chart

https://preview.ibb.co/ccMbrz/Screen_Shot_2018_10_03_at_11_42_47.png (https://ibb.co/kN25jK)

Who still thinks it's not scam ?

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: starkovblue on October 04, 2018, 10:38:28 AM

The fall of the price ten times in a few days.
http://i91.fastpic.ru/big/2018/1004/76/0e60102d9c205ced771ecf60f78c0a76.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)
And this has not yet been paid to the bounty hunters, which means that it will go even lower on such low volumes. It turns out that they sell tokens from creators' wallets. I hope you did not invest in this scam guys.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 04, 2018, 11:12:35 AM

OMG :o

https://preview.ibb.co/kq7UeK/Screen_Shot_2018_10_04_at_14_11_37.png (https://ibb.co/mVR0mz)

Bitconneeeeeeeeect!

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: albanes on October 05, 2018, 01:21:32 PM

Quote from: shitcoinoffering on September 28, 2018, 08:52:46 AM

Quote from: ajsexylove on September 27, 2018, 12:40:51 PM

Are you sure that all these exchanges are crooks ?? can you justify your words ?? Personally, I traded on these exchanges and I can say that everything is fine with them !!

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Astargath on October 05, 2018, 11:38:14 PM

Quote from: albanes on October 05, 2018, 01:21:32 PM

Quote from: shitcoinoffering on September 28, 2018, 08:52:46 AM

Quote from: ajsexylove on September 27, 2018, 12:40:51 PM

Are you sure that all these exchanges are crooks ?? can you justify your words ?? Personally, I traded on these exchanges and I can say that everything is fine with them !!

Bitmart asks for KYC to withdraw anything.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 06, 2018, 12:34:51 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 05, 2018, 11:38:14 PM

Quote from: albanes on October 05, 2018, 01:21:32 PM

Quote from: shitcoinoffering on September 28, 2018, 08:52:46 AM

Quote from: ajsexylove on September 27, 2018, 12:40:51 PM

Are you sure that all these exchanges are crooks ?? can you justify your words ?? Personally, I traded on these exchanges and I can say that everything is fine with them !!

Bitmart asks for KYC to withdraw anything.

Scam token which is listed on scam exchanges... :o

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 18, 2018, 01:05:12 PM

https://preview.ibb.co/dob3J0/Screen-Shot-2018-10-18-at-16-04-02.png (https://ibb.co/kOrsBL)

RIP :-\

As we told https://shitcoinoffering.com/ubex-ico-machine-will-never-rise/
Stay tuned 8)

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: NeverSop on October 19, 2018, 03:41:05 AM

Quote from: Schirer on October 12, 2018, 03:03:42 PM

I immediately thought that something was off after i saw that they entered exchange befroe ICO has ended.

My explanation is that this could be a very smart way to encourage people of buying into ICO.
And it is done by entering exchange before ico and the only token holders are controlled by ICO team, they artificially inflate the price and volume to attract more people.

This is not suspicious. but really put a big question mark. I saw the Ubex sponsored link when accidentally checked on etherscan. They list up bitforex and idex while still having very few people holding the token. in some situations in other projects. Some teams like Datareum have a large roboots on the telegram. The team is also silent and totally does not have the means to support the community while selling the crowd. Really worse than what I think. Worth mentioning, the roadmap of the datareum says October 18 token will be listed but still silent not a news. There are too many bad projects right now. shitcoin everywhere.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: starkovblue on October 19, 2018, 10:41:02 AM

Quote from: NeverSop on October 19, 2018, 03:41:05 AM

Quote from: Schirer on October 12, 2018, 03:03:42 PM

Today, they are trying to arrange the final pump in order to give managers the last chance to leave the project with a profit.
The way they dealt with many investors who still have not received anything even though they bought on sales raises very big questions about their honesty.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 19, 2018, 12:16:35 PM

Quote from: starkovblue on October 19, 2018, 10:41:02 AM

Quote from: NeverSop on October 19, 2018, 03:41:05 AM

Quote from: Schirer on October 12, 2018, 03:03:42 PM

I admire your opinion. It was just pumped on Bitmart. Some investors and traders will sell their tokens and Ubex will finally die...

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Saint-loup on October 19, 2018, 02:43:12 PM

Same scam mechanism as Fujinto (NTO) the big scam...

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 22, 2018, 09:25:32 AM

Quote from: CoinChimps on October 21, 2018, 04:54:57 PM

This is very strange. People calling it scam however the founder is actively seen attending conferences and seminars.

To attract investors, scam new people and make more money :)
Think about it :'(

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 24, 2018, 11:28:58 AM

Quote from: MrVV on October 23, 2018, 10:17:54 PM

Quote from: CoinChimps on October 21, 2018, 04:54:57 PM

This is very strange. People calling it scam however the founder is actively seen attending conferences and seminars.

While doing actually jack shit.

100%

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: X_X_X on October 26, 2018, 12:23:42 AM

It's pretty difficult to tell what's a scam and what's not. Until last year most people called Ripple and XRP a scam... and they missed legendary gains. So who knows?

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on October 26, 2018, 11:08:38 AM

Quote from: X_X_X on October 26, 2018, 12:23:42 AM

It's pretty difficult to tell what's a scam and what's not. Until last year most people called Ripple and XRP a scam... and they missed legendary gains. So who knows?

Rumors about XRP scam were based on facts that XRP isn't a cryptocurrency and it has no Blockchain bla-bla-bla... As to other ICOs, there are real proofs ::)

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: Mezounbanned on February 04, 2019, 08:46:36 PM

I do not know whether it is scam but sale was fishy. They placed token on exchange at high price while selling it officially with lower price. I have got my bounty tokens though which cost almost nothing.

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: shitcoinoffering on February 05, 2019, 02:35:56 PM

Quote from: Mezounbanned on February 04, 2019, 08:46:36 PM

Anyway, Ubex is exit scam and it is already RIP...

Title: Re: [SCAM] UBEX
Post by: nutildah on August 06, 2019, 10:36:26 AM

Quote from: shitcoinoffering on February 05, 2019, 02:35:56 PM

Quote from: Mezounbanned on February 04, 2019, 08:46:36 PM

Anyway, Ubex is exit scam and it is already RIP...

Your favorite advisor Reuben Godfrey was also an advisor for Ubex... I'm starting to notice a pattern here.

https://irishtechnews.ie/why-our-data-and-content-is-so-important-reuben-godfrey-crypto-advisor-for-c3c-ico/

Quote

1 min pitch for what you are doing now?

Currently I am advising several exciting crypto-currency projects; Kepler Tech, Ubex, Fan360, TrustedIn.

He's great for projects and terrible for investors. Just look at this mug, how could you not trust it? LOL.

https://irishtechnews.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/vegas.jpg

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