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Title: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Arcas on February 27, 2014, 01:37:27 AM Does the BTC symbol go before the number such as $100, or does it go after the number such as 100¢?
It is critically important that we clarify the formatting of this. Example: BTC100 100BTC Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: 5thStreetResearch on February 27, 2014, 02:22:41 AM seems like it should be before
Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: NoWhammies on February 27, 2014, 02:25:55 AM I like before.
Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: 5thStreetResearch on February 27, 2014, 02:27:38 AM You should probably just make this is a poll though
Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Arcas on February 27, 2014, 02:29:46 AM You should probably just make this is a poll though AddedTitle: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Bitcoinpro on February 27, 2014, 02:32:21 AM before
Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Massimo80 on February 27, 2014, 02:37:47 AM Definitely before.
The symbol for a satoshi, on the other hand, could be treated the same as the one for a cent, and placed after. BTW, what is the symbol for a satoshi? Does it even have one? Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Arcas on February 27, 2014, 02:39:03 AM Definitely before. μ? In that case it would μBTC100. Sort of confusing.The symbol for a satoshi, on the other hand, could be treated the same as the one for a cent, and placed after. BTW, what is the symbol for a satoshi? Does it even have one? Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: bg002h on February 27, 2014, 03:26:30 AM There is a post somewhere on this forum (5 btc 0.001 milliBitcoin bounty were key terms in the thread) where a clever person suggested this format:
3฿234 This mean three leading zeros after the decimal place and then the numbers 234...it would look like this; 3฿234=0.000234 (ie, 0.234 m฿) I think this deserves more thought now that a fair amount of time has passed. Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: hellscabane on February 27, 2014, 04:55:14 AM Let's just go scientific on this. I mean we use milli- and micro- after all. So 1.000BTC.
Then again, I most commonly see it before just like the USD. So BTC1.000. How about we just go crazy on this and place it on top if we're talking about BTC and below if we're talking about satoshi? ??? So: BTC 1.000 Is 1 Bitcoin and 1.000 BTC is 1 Satoshi. You know what...The foundation should develop a poll regarding this nomenclature... Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: yashin on February 27, 2014, 05:04:14 AM Surely it goes before.
What we're missing is an official symbol to denote satoshis. Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Definit on February 27, 2014, 07:12:19 AM I like this:
BTC1.0001 0.00154BTC Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: h3rlihy on February 27, 2014, 07:23:59 AM I think we should really go for it...
BTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTC BTC 100 BTC BTCBTCBTCBTCBTCBTC Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Akka on February 27, 2014, 07:24:51 AM US ≠ World
I have never seen the currency symbol positioned before the numbers where I live. So instead of confusing everyone here, due to the outcome of some random poll, I think I will continue putting it after the numbers. Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Bitalo_Maciej on February 27, 2014, 10:03:03 AM Definitely after. Especially that you could also use BTC / mBTC, which would be confusing to add before the amount.
So - 1.23 BTC - 10 mBTC - etc. Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount ;). Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: orion87 on February 27, 2014, 10:25:39 AM Quote from: Bitalo_Maciej Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount ;). The same is true for euros and pounds so that covers most of the other people here :) Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: nanonano on February 27, 2014, 10:28:25 AM You should probably just make this is a poll though AddedYou understand that this is language (or culture) -dependent more than it is currency-dependent right? In english "10$" is always wrong (or at least not the preferred form) but in many other languages that would be fine and putting the symbol before the value would look just weird. The same thing will happen to BTC. This poll is basically asking "where does your native language put the currency symbol". Quote from: Bitalo_Maciej Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount ;). The same is true for euros and pounds so that covers most of the other people here :) Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Bitalo_Maciej on February 27, 2014, 12:36:19 PM It seems that it varies from country to country:
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_sign#Use Placement of the sign also varies. Partly since there are no official standards on placement,[9] countries have generated varying conventions or sustained those of their former currencies. For example, in Ireland and the Netherlands, where previous currency signs (£ and ƒ, respectively) were placed before the figure, the euro sign is universally placed in the same position.[10] In many other countries, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain, an amount such as €3.50 is often written as 3,50 € instead, largely in accordance with conventions for previous currencies and the way amounts are read aloud. And even for dollar it seems that in some province of Canada, they place the symbol after the amount. Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: hellscabane on February 27, 2014, 03:27:29 PM Definitely after. Especially that you could also use BTC / mBTC, which would be confusing to add before the amount. So - 1.23 BTC - 10 mBTC - etc. Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount ;). I tend to agree with this since we apply scientific notation to the usage of BTC. Part of me though says if we use a symbol like in accounting purposes we place it before, but if we use the abbreviation BTC, we use it after. After all, I don't see many people writing mBTC. So we would have BTC1.2345 and BTC0.0401. And we would have 1.2345 BTC and 40.1 mBTC. Although...We could solve part of this conundrum by just creating a unique symbol for a satoshi. But then we'd have an issue with symbol placement again. After all, we but the $ before, but the ¢ after... Gah! :-\ Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Interjekcion on February 27, 2014, 03:35:49 PM Oh, come on... Isn't this common sense? You're always supposed to put the currency symbol before the value. Let me explain why.
Lets say someone writes a will/check to give Dinky 50 Dollars. And in the document it is written as "50.00$." Then, Dinky can easily change the value by editing the document and scratching in 1000 after the 50.00$ and claim he is entitled to "100050.00$." This couldn't be done if the symbol came before the value "$50.00." Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: CoinHeavy on February 27, 2014, 03:39:27 PM $50,000
Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: davidpbrown on February 27, 2014, 03:52:38 PM It is critically important that we clarify the formatting of this. critically important?? - wtf. Both ftw - whatever it consistent with other currencies in whatever context that finds itself. Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: grifferz on February 27, 2014, 05:15:54 PM Then Dinky, can easily change the value by editing the document and scratching in 1000 after the 50.00$ and claim he is entitled to "100050.00$." In UK, cheques and all legal documents that mention money have it written as both number and wordsPay Bob's Widget and Bait Store Fifty pounds only Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Arcas on February 27, 2014, 08:47:22 PM Bump
Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: ISAWHIM on February 27, 2014, 08:55:31 PM removed... doesn't matter. lol
Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Peter Lambert on February 27, 2014, 09:07:36 PM I like to put the symbol after. I have never understood why the dollar sign is placed before the number? So if you see $100 you read "one hundred dollars", that is just absurd since we read everything else from left to right, why do we have to switch things around for dollars? Any other quantity you put the units after the number, why are dollars different?
I like the abbreviation mB for referring to millibits, EG a dollar is trading at 1.709 mB right now. Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Bitalo_Maciej on March 01, 2014, 11:19:18 AM Oh, come on... Isn't this common sense? You're always supposed to put the currency symbol before the value. Let me explain why. Lets say someone writes a will/check to give Dinky 50 Dollars. And in the document it is written as "50.00$." Then, Dinky can easily change the value by editing the document and scratching in 1000 after the 50.00$ and claim he is entitled to "100050.00$." This couldn't be done if the symbol came before the value "$50.00." This is only true if you wrote the cent value as well. If you didn't, you can easily forge the value when the symbol is before the amount, i.e.: "$50" becomes "$50000". Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Abdussamad on March 01, 2014, 12:35:07 PM It is critically important that we clarify the formatting of this. Why? a) this will depend on locale b) this sort of thread can never be resolved successfully: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1833.0 Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: grifferz on March 01, 2014, 12:41:47 PM b) this sort of thread can never be resolved successfully: Aye, I look forward to seeing this thread bumped once a year by proponents of each side, forever. :)Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: notbatman on March 01, 2014, 12:45:59 PM Quote The symbol for a satoshi, on the other hand, could be treated the same as the one for a cent, and placed after. BTW, what is the symbol for a satoshi? Does it even have one? BTC0.00000001 = 1$ Title: Re: Bitcoin symbol positioning Post by: Peter Lambert on March 01, 2014, 12:56:12 PM Quote The symbol for a satoshi, on the other hand, could be treated the same as the one for a cent, and placed after. BTW, what is the symbol for a satoshi? Does it even have one? BTC0.00000001 = 1$ I like the term "Fundemental Unit". That way we could say BTC0.00000001 = 1 FU |