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Hi,

Anyone else learn about CZIP.ORG ?

It's described as crypto archiver and offer users to archive and crypt their files/folders, and then decrypt using Cryptocurrency Payments !

Is it innovative idea for you ? Bad or Good thing for crypto community ?

A ransomware friendly software for commercial use !

I think it's one stupid idea.
Basically you crypt your files and the only way to get it the decrypted is by sending a sum to an address from which those guys take a fee?
Correct me if I'm wrong but from their tiny instructions, this is all I could figure.

Besides, it's not ransomware, it's more like masochistware to me.
What if you need those files urgently and you have no BTC left?  ;D ;D

There are hundreds of ways to secure your files by encryption for free, why would you pay for this?

It is kinda shady,  when i first tried to use electrum as my wallet, i have lost my private keys, i also post a thread in the electrum wallet section regarding to my problem and been loking for a way to retrieve my private keys and i did use czip. Org even thou i don't know if it this was the real way, the only thing it bothers me coz it says that it is free but you should pay atleast a small amount. So in other words it is not for commercial use. But i don't know if it is suitable to retrieve my lost private keys.  

Yeah, it's so damn dumb. Why would you involve anything that has to do with payments to unlock your own data, let alone anything online? your encrypted stuff shouldn't need an internet connection, you just need a strong password.

And even then, you have enough problems already trying to remember your password. I did some tests with truecrypt, used some strong ass encryption, and then I realized that I entered the password wrongly in a couple of hard drives. I have no idea how to access these drives anymore, it's basically impossible, they are useless unless I can be bothered with formatting them and I don't really need that space.

Anyway bottomline is: just have a strong password but be sure you remember it. You don't need payments or anything fancy.

Because of "ransom ware" this is going to be a hard sell. However there are use cases where it makes sense. I could, for example, have an online store that sells files. Rather than provide protection for the files I could sell the keys to decrypt them. So you would download say a cookbook and when you pay via bitcoin it unlocks the file for use. 

Hahaha. Exactly. I wouldn't try such service though.  Much better if you encrypt your files with strong password. So its a bad idea. And its not user friendly as well, I just look at the "How To", and you need to download Java Cryptography Extension (JCE) Unlimited Strength Jurisdiction Policy Files, and follow another instructions.

@Strufmbae, obviously, this application its not suitable to find your private keys and if you lost them its impossible to get back your bitcoins.  :'(

Probably could be used by a person selling a certain digital product. Whereas instead of going to a mediator like selly.gg, the seller sends over the encrypted file then the buyer just unlocks it by sending BTC to the address(seller's address) to un-encrypt the file. I don't know though, just trying to make sense to it.

Seems like the only real-life usage of this stuff would be if you're selling stuff and you want people to be able to use it only when they pay.
It would make sense if you don't want to install plug-ins to create a pay per download fee restriction on your website.

But...would this thing work with multiple users?
Would you have to encrypt each file one by one with a different address?
Also, it seems that you'll also have to ask the buyer to download and install the software for it, that's not going to be the selling point of your stuff...

Really, too many damn questions, probably the only way to figure this thing out would be to test it, but that is going to have to wait till Sunday as no way in hell I'm going to use my laptop to run that.
Once I'm at home and I can run a VM I'll give it a try.

It might be stupid but for sure it made me curious :D

Of course it's not for that use !

The goal is to encrypt your files (as many as you want) and then sell it for others.

This prevent centralization in some ways and file deletion from online file hosting / or some plateform where you sell digital files.


I think it's their first goal and logically the only one ...

It was my first tought when i created this thread "LEGAL RANSOMWARE"

Personally I tested it and given the waited result.

Hope this will not be used for illegal activities.

CZIP.ORG is a software that is made as crypto archiver and for commercially use. Hopefully this will benefit the users and investors will be benefited from CZIP.ORG.

Pretty interesting idea actually, lol. I don't see that many reasons to use it, but i'm amused by the idea that someone look the idea and created this sort-of ransomware as a service thing.

To be honest, it is something similar to e-commerce website selling digital goods like software or ebook. However, it can protect the files only up to level 1 and after decrypting, there is absolutely no way to restrict further sharing of such files. It's not the legal ransom but kind of utility to accept one-time licensing fee against the sold digital goods.

the question is WHY would anyone in his right mind do that? it is literary "masochistware" as stompix said!

if you like the idea of it then do it on your own. how? just use two keys, encrypt whatever you want with them and then hold one yourself and hand another one to another person you trust or simply store it elsewhere. you don't have to use a third party to encrypt-decrypt your data. it is not some secret technology that they are using, it is open source and for everyone to use.
it can simply be a long password (60 char long) and you store 30 character of it and the other person the other 30 and encrypt your data using one of those password managers (trucrypt,...)

Why need this if you can use winrar? Winrar encrypts and secure files greatly and the fun fact is you hold the password. No need to pay even a cent.

instead of paying money or crypto for encrypting your files and making it secure you can learn the basic programming and make your own free software to encrypt and secure your file if they are getting money from you this is useless there are free and open source software to deal with

I like it, this make us away from online upload services...


You will pay nothing, they just take small fees for transaction.



Your idea is good for one or two persons you already know, but what about sharing it over the internet ? How will you manage to get your payment ? Here come sych innovative service ... if someone pay to decrypt your archive, you will receive instantly your payment.

Yes i see it like that ... but you can't prevent someone who decrypted the file to share it ... it's like an online ecommerce service or any other selling platform ...


Some guys here didn't got the concept ...

How does this prevent file deletion?
It prevents only if you were selling something illegal, which....is NOT legal.



Yeah, if the first person decides to share it there is nothing you can do.
And with the speed google indexes stuff it will take less than 24 hours for people to find the decrypted files with a simple search.

Besides, if you want to collect multiple payments I assume you have to encrypt that file for each person, right?
Because once somebody pays all of them are decrypted....

No ! File decrypted only one time for the payer ...

You encrypt it one time and spread it over internet, and then many persons can buy it (if someone decrypt it, not all persons that got the archives will be decrypted for him, each one of them must pay for custom decryption)... and by the developer the decryption is different from person to another, good security thinked there.

The idea looks very dumb to me as in a modern society where data and information are being made free each day, we are using a platform to encrypt an file and pay money for decrypting it. What if someone mistakenly encrypts a file that he/she badly needs? The idea doesn't really sounds foolproof to me. Also, if they use our own data and information to ask for ransom then it can troublesome.

You archive and encrypt only files willing to sell, and the original files can stay always un-encrypted  in your PC.

Thank you for the clarification. Then this is a good idea, especially if you're dealing with a person you don't want to have a connection with but you would want to give services for payment. This is great for securing that the transaction will happen for both parties.

Not bad if they organized the process without possibility  to use this service as a scam malware and will maintain the security

Not sure about the legitimicy of the platform but the idea of ransomware sounds very wrong to me. What is the point of encrypting a file and asking money for it for someone? I personally would have never used it as it might be scam as it doesn't have any information available online. But, would like to read some user reviews here on the forum.

There are already softwares and platform available both online and offline that let's you store your data or files using password. Now, asking money for decrypting files looks like overkill to me. However, people who want to sell data and information can use it for themeselves but then again, what sort of data people sells for money? Either highly confidential or illegal information. So, doesn't look a good platform to me.

Sometimes, I am always taken aback about the 'ingenuity' of our so called developers in on what they come up with and called a project and I believe if there is an opportunity to raise an ICO, he would surely take it and then talk about how difficult it is to get people to invest thinking they just invest in anything. Aside from the issue you raised, what if I keep my private key, and someone access it on their server which means I willingly handed over the key to my safe room to an external party which even negates the principle of blockchain that you should be the one in charge of your wallet no matter how safe the third party is making his service.

LOL

I laugh at peoples commenting without taking time to read the whole first posts of this thread, they take in count and read the first comment only and make their jugement based on that.

This software let you sell your files, or any digital goods by encrypting + archive it locally (without losting your original file) and then share over the web and broadcast it for potential buyers.

By reading the OP post, I logically thought about that,  I do not know how you can come up with such misunderstanding and bad use about this software.

And the decentralized part of this software make it for both users and czip, less space for file storage, and for users prevent from file deletion since the file is not stored on the server.

I believe it's one moronic thought. Fundamentally you tomb your records and the best way to get it the decoded is by sending a total to an address from which those folks take a charge? There are many approaches to anchor your records by encryption for nothing, for what reason would you pay for this?

LOL
Please read and understand it before posting for just posting.

I found this one is very stupid to try out. What it basically does is just unlock the data you have provided to and decrypted it. I believe strong passwords may solve this problem easily if you are any case forgetful about your staff then you may write it down in your personal diary or something.

This way someone can sell file using torrent (p2p)  without redirecting user to online selling platform  or middle online service.

For me, it's good idea but not to compare to ransomware since it's more related to archives.

Title should be: Cryptocurrency archive protector for commercial usage, or something similar.

Ransomware is a negative thing. I think they are crypto service provider. By the way their plan is not bad from my view. But i have not found any authentic review about them. So can not judge it.

Not a bad idea indeed. It looks like rar files just difference is it is paid software. I think if they are not scam they can do good in the crypto industry. Lets see what happens with them.

I can not find any experts opinion about it. Maybe they have newly announced their project. Anyway from my opinion i don't think it will be safe to use them without doing a proper research.

Yeah it’s good. It seems really promising to me and I think it has a great potential. I hope people will get help from it and do some business.

you are undoubtedly right, top-level mazahism. You did not think by accident that you can infect your computer with viruses. We cried your dollars, and the creators of the program will bathe in your tokens. Since most users store their password data on the PC. Even if the access keys or passwords have been deleted, you can find them on the trail and on contact with the flash media, everything passes to the phishers.

This is really a very good idea. It sounds cool. I really appreciate their innovative idea and this kind of project is very much needed to help people doing business in this growing cryptomarket.

A good innovative idea indeed. I hope it will get the acceptance of people and will be helpful for them. I like this project and appreciate it. Best of luck to them.

I have no clue how to get to these drives any longer, it's fundamentally outlandish, they are futile except if I can be messed with designing them and I don't generally require that space.

I have checked it. It looks good and promising. I liked the idea very much. I hope it will be accepted and people will be helped by its service to have information do business

Yeah that is exactly what it is. It's like a pyramid but with Cryptocurrency and without paying for referrals(I think, unless they implement it later).

It's the exact same thing Hackers use when encrypting the personal or work files of someone and then ask for a Bitcoin fee to unlock them - But now you make them use it by their own will and make them pay for the rescue in the exact same way. From the bad Hacker perspective this is brilliant.

However, the people who use it really need to read a lot more books and educate themselves more.

Yeah I find this idea very innovative. You see we are in the age where crypto market is growing. So to make the business easy for people we need various facilities in software field. So I welcome this kind of project

And, why do you want to encrypt your files with fee ? You just can use winzip or winrar, and using some strong password like cryptocurrency private key.
It is good for experimental only, peoples will use free software in their reality.

This is a stupid idea, because it will only be a matter of time before someone figures out how to decrypt these files "offline" and then they will basically have access to all content on that site. If you have sensitive files on that site, these people will use that against you. Trust will also be a major factor, because you will have to trust a third party not to access your sensitive information before they encrypt it.

Most compression software out there have a built in encryption feature these days, like Win Zip/RaR/7-Zip etc, so why would you need to trust a third party with the encryption and also having to pay for that?

It does have some commercial use, imagine if you are an independant software developer. You can zip up your program and leave it on a download site. If someone wants to buy it, they can download it and decrypt with bitcoin as payment.

it sounds like a sketchy business n really it's not necessarily at all, like what do you do when you got no more BTC left?

Although the idea looks very innovative, I still feel that it would be hard to provide a proper secured performance by this software. That’s why to give authorization to third party is not a decision I will take

it is amazing to me. i think it is more secure and potential for crypto people. it will ensure our security and make easy to transaction. it is made by advance technology. its future are very good.

it is more probable and secure. it will do something good in future. i want to use it because it is make ensure our security. its future are good. it is more potential and provide better service from other.

the Idea seems fishy to me, no offense.

Huh ransomware software can't be legal in any way, shape, or form. This crypto archiver is nothing more than a password-protected archiver like WinRar etc. This crypto archiver is good for selling IP stuff like books, lectures, essays and so on as it ensures the seller will get their payment and not get scammed in the process. But I am not sure what purpose this software serves anyways to be honest. There exist better and far more reputable alternatives already.

it is more secure and potential. its service are better from other. it is more reliable and committed to perform better service. it will ensure our security. its future are very good. i want to use it.

And where is the file stored mister I know better than you?
You talk about decentralization like the files are stored in the blokchain...

So you're going to store the files on your computer, allow people to connect to you...and let them download the file? Is this your business model?

Rather than doing that I would simply make an order form, the buyer completes the payment to a random address and at that point, he gets the files in the mail, there are already a bunch of scripts for that.
No need for encryption, decryption, no nothing.
But we have to overcomplicate everything just to make it look cool

I think new technology is always good for cryptocurrency if it is safe. I know a bit about CZIP.ORG, I think it will be beneficial for investors because it is very user friendly. Hope CZIP.ORG will good for users.

Hopefully CZIP.ORG will be the reason for profit for all the investors. Its users will definitely benefit. It is used for cryptocurrency payment and since it is used for commercial use, so hopefully it will be profitable.

The file stored in your PC computer, and then you can share it over the web or torrent etc.

Who said you will allow peoples connect to you ? You didn't understood the process and you shoot everything with non sense.

The process is really basic, you have to encrypt the file like you do with WINRAR and similar softwares, and then once encrypted, you upload it somewhere using torrent p2p way, or even online upload services to share it over internet and broadcast it for potential buyers.

Once someone buy it, you will receive instantly your money in your wallet (The one you choosen to encrypt your file or folder).

And the best thing here, you can use it in CMD mode to encrypt files using command line, not only using GUI.

And the main interesting thing here, is that the file can't be deleted by anyone once shared ... not like online services where files deleted in a certain time or as soon as something goes wrong ... file available 24/24 7/7 when you need to purchase it in your own PC computer.

Hope i helped you with my little explaination.

You are making a mess of everything:


Probably you're forgetting how p2p works

Then:


Forget it, no matter how awesome looks on paper, in reality is so unpractical you are going to lose hundreds of customers. They want to pay for something and get that something fast.
There are thousands of services that offer this, starting plans at 5$ a month and you don't have to bother with hosting, availability and other bs.

PS.
In your clever explanation, you forget to mention the steps the buyer has to make for this.

Until now i didn't got your logic !

How this make you lose money ? and is there something fast as this ?

Once buyer got a file encrypted/archived using czip, he click on right button of mouse and then: DESCRYPT.

After that he will get a Bitcoin address or depend on what cryptocurrency seller choosen to be paid on it.

Once payment received, the file will get decrypted instantly in buyer PC and seller will get the payment in her wallet ! (Note that the buyer can hold the encrypted file lifetime in own PC ... and he can decide to purchase it whenever he want. When you said "They want to pay for something and get that something fast.", they already got the encrypted file, they have only to decrypt it using cryptocurrency payment ... the product is on their hand before even to pay it :D )

Is there any other easier way than this ?

There no other service offering same thing ... all require you to host your file in their servers.

it is kinda shady, when I initially attempted to utilize electrum as my wallet, I have lost my private keys, I likewise post a string in the electrum wallet segment with respect to my concern and been loking for an approach to recover my private keys and I used czip. The organization even thou I don't know whether it this was the genuine way, the main thing it annoys me coz it says that it is free however you should pay at least a little sum. So as it were it isn't for business utilize. In any case, I don't know whether it is appropriate to recover my lost private keys.