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Title: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: molecular on October 19, 2011, 08:44:48 PM
Max Keiser (http://maxkeiser.com) just tweeted:

Quote from: maxkeiser
I'll be speaking at bitcoin conference in Prague November making the case why #occupy protests need to embrace global pirate parties

awesome, I love the guy.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: 322i0n on October 19, 2011, 08:47:33 PM
NICE ONE!!  ;D


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on October 19, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
I look forward to having a beer with Max, and paying for it with Bitcoins!


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: molecular on October 19, 2011, 08:58:25 PM
Just looked at the list of speakers here: http://conference.bitgroups.org/

Rick Falkvinge will also speak, Amir Taaki, too and other well-knowns like Vladimir.

David G.W. Birch (is a Director of Consult Hyperion) came as a surprise to me, very interesting indeed!

The list really makes me want to go... but I probably wont be able to. I hope the online coverage will be good.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: Steve on October 19, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Looks like it's going to be an awesome conference!


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: Technomage on October 19, 2011, 09:31:06 PM
Max Keiser is a big time addition. I have to start checking plane ticket prices, it's starting to get really tempting to go there. It's not even far, I live in Finland. And I've been to Prague before. It's a nice city and the prices are cheap.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: mizerydearia on October 19, 2011, 09:34:33 PM
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40272


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: molecular on October 19, 2011, 09:46:19 PM
Max tweeted:

Quote from: maxkeiser
we'll be there bitcoin Prague, reserve shares in our film of the event: goo.gl/iey68

interesting... they're planning to make a film (26 minutes, news) about the bitcoin confererence... are looking for $900. Too bad one can't fund via bitcoin.

I wonder if Max is funding all his shows this way and what kind of film this will be...?


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: worldly on October 19, 2011, 10:00:31 PM
http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291

here is the link to support Max


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: Are-you-a-wizard? on October 19, 2011, 10:20:46 PM
http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291

here is the link to support Max

Is this just donating or do you get something back?


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: stick_theman on October 20, 2011, 02:35:30 AM
Great speaker line-up!  I'm glad we are building a really good foundation instead of just hyping up the price of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: tvbcof on October 20, 2011, 03:03:58 AM
Interesting.  Keiser/Herbert seem to have been fairly mute on Bitcoin after some early and generally supportive mentions.  I sense that it alienates some of their PM-centric friends and detracts from the 'buy silver' campaign (by competing for speculative funds of course.)  Or maybe they are savvy enough to have noticed the likely decline and wanted to wait for more opportune timing so as not to tarnish their reputation (which is pretty stellar IMHO.)

This could be a fairly big deal I would suspect.  They have quite an audience at this point, and the audience is already pretty aware of and agitated about the banking shenanigans.  Also, I imagine that a fair fraction of the audience actually has both some bucks and some gonads.  If some of them took an active interest I could see it being somewhat bullish for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: evoorhees on October 20, 2011, 03:21:48 AM
Interesting.  Keiser/Herbert seem to have been fairly mute on Bitcoin after some early and generally supportive mentions.  I sense that it alienates some of their PM-centric friends and detracts from the 'buy silver' campaign (by competing for speculative funds of course.)  Or maybe they are savvy enough to have noticed the likely decline and wanted to wait for more opportune timing so as not to tarnish their reputation (which is pretty stellar IMHO.)

This could be a fairly big deal I would suspect.  They have quite an audience at this point, and the audience is already pretty aware of and agitated about the banking shenanigans.  Also, I imagine that a fair fraction of the audience actually has both some bucks and some gonads.  If some of them took an active interest I could see it being somewhat bullish for Bitcoin.


Good points.

I'm hopeful that Keiser will help build a bridge between the precious metals camp and the Bitcoin camp. There is no need for antagonism between the two - precious metals and Bitcoin complement each other beautifully, each filling the weaknesses of the other.

Some people say that gold tends to be the best form of money.
Others say that gold is the ONLY real form of money.

The former group will be much more open to Bitcoin - as the new market entrant doesn't preclude their strongly-held beliefs. The latter group might never give Bitcoin a chance, unfortunately.  Interestingly, those who understand WHY gold is a great form of money should be able to figure out the allure of Bitcoin. The specific properties to each make them both excellent money - one sitting in your vault in the physical world, the other sitting in your computer in the digital world.

And in both cases, far better and more moral than paper certificates inscribed with the fiat stamp of government and backed by the threat of violence.



Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: tvbcof on October 20, 2011, 06:51:48 AM
...
Interestingly, those who understand WHY gold is a great form of money should be able to figure out the allure of Bitcoin. The specific properties to each make them both excellent money - one sitting in your vault in the physical world, the other sitting in your computer in the digital world.
...

Some of the limitations of physical are part of what made me so interested in Bitcoin early on (in my actual study of it.)  At first I really didn't understand the animosity, but it seems to be primarily among the silver people and there are some real mouth-breathing day-trader caliber folk in that camp.  I don't get the sense that Bitcoin is even a term known to a lot of gold people, much less any real understanding of cryptography.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on October 26, 2011, 01:10:43 PM
http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291

here is the link to support Max

Is this just donating or do you get something back?

Max will produce a video at the event and broadcast it on his TV shows.  This will be HUGE for bitcoin, as so far he has just talked about the technology, but now he can show a large group of people actually using it.

I encourage everyone to donate $5-$25 to fund this project.  He only needs $800.  This will be a professional video from Max that can go viral, and benefit everyone in the community.

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291 (http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291)


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: molecular on October 26, 2011, 01:26:36 PM
http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291

here is the link to support Max

Is this just donating or do you get something back?

Max will produce a video at the event and broadcast it on his TV shows.  This will be HUGE for bitcoin, as so far he has just talked about the technology, but now he can show a large group of people actually using it.

I encourage everyone to donate $5-$25 to fund this project.  He only needs $800.  This will be a professional video from Max that can go viral, and benefit everyone in the community.

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291 (http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291)

Now, this would be a whole lot easier if we could use bitcoins for that...

ok, I reserved 1 share ($5), now how do I actually buy it?


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: Coinabul on October 26, 2011, 01:28:20 PM
Interesting.  Keiser/Herbert seem to have been fairly mute on Bitcoin after some early and generally supportive mentions.  I sense that it alienates some of their PM-centric friends and detracts from the 'buy silver' campaign (by competing for speculative funds of course.)  Or maybe they are savvy enough to have noticed the likely decline and wanted to wait for more opportune timing so as not to tarnish their reputation (which is pretty stellar IMHO.)

This could be a fairly big deal I would suspect.  They have quite an audience at this point, and the audience is already pretty aware of and agitated about the banking shenanigans.  Also, I imagine that a fair fraction of the audience actually has both some bucks and some gonads.  If some of them took an active interest I could see it being somewhat bullish for Bitcoin.


Good points.

I'm hopeful that Keiser will help build a bridge between the precious metals camp and the Bitcoin camp. There is no need for antagonism between the two - precious metals and Bitcoin complement each other beautifully, each filling the weaknesses of the other.

Some people say that gold tends to be the best form of money.
Others say that gold is the ONLY real form of money.

The former group will be much more open to Bitcoin - as the new market entrant doesn't preclude their strongly-held beliefs. The latter group might never give Bitcoin a chance, unfortunately.  Interestingly, those who understand WHY gold is a great form of money should be able to figure out the allure of Bitcoin. The specific properties to each make them both excellent money - one sitting in your vault in the physical world, the other sitting in your computer in the digital world.

And in both cases, far better and more moral than paper certificates inscribed with the fiat stamp of government and backed by the threat of violence.



Just tell them you can buy gold with bitcoins and also sell your gold for bitcoins with us  :)


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on October 26, 2011, 01:29:42 PM
Now, this would be a whole lot easier if we could use bitcoins for that...

I am already working on that for PMF!  stay tuned


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: molecular on October 26, 2011, 01:51:06 PM
Now, this would be a whole lot easier if we could use bitcoins for that...

I am already working on that for PMF!  stay tuned

Wow, cool!!!

Another idea: we could issue shares for this movie on glbse, exchange the raised BTC for USD and successively buy shares on piratemyfilms.

comments?


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: Coinabul on October 26, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
Now, this would be a whole lot easier if we could use bitcoins for that...

I am already working on that for PMF!  stay tuned

Wow, cool!!!

Another idea: we could issue shares for this movie on glbse, exchange the raised BTC for USD and successively buy shares on piratemyfilms.

comments?

Another excellent idea molecular.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: mizerydearia on October 26, 2011, 01:59:20 PM
Another idea: we could issue shares for this movie on glbse, exchange the raised BTC for USD and successively buy shares on piratemyfilms.

comments?

successively?  don't you mean succulently?


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: apetersson on October 26, 2011, 02:08:30 PM
i love max+stacy they are great!

However, they stated multiple times, they are the "Black Swans". Whenever they show up, the whole thing crumbles shortly afterwards. They have done so in Iceland, Ireland, Greece, New York...

see for example: If You See Me in Your City, Run for the Hills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lCOv0TwyWqI#t=153s)


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: molecular on October 26, 2011, 02:19:52 PM
Another idea: we could issue shares for this movie on glbse, exchange the raised BTC for USD and successively buy shares on piratemyfilms.

comments?

successively?  don't you mean succulently?

succulently??

What I meant was: as soon as enough shares are bought on glbse, I will exchange the BTC for USD and buy a share of the film on PMF.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: apetersson on October 26, 2011, 02:26:11 PM
a standard account can only buy 5 shares per film on PMF.


Title: Re: Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague
Post by: molecular on October 26, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
a standard account can only buy 5 shares per film on PMF.

"Basic Account", yes, seen that. This is something I would have to sort out before "going public". I doubt it'd be troublesome to get an account specifically for buying these shares... after all, there is nothing offered in return in this case (dividend or ownership), is there?