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Title: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 01:02:46 AM
...who thinks the flood of trolls is not a random event?


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: Eveofwar on October 20, 2011, 01:12:11 AM
...who thinks the flood of trolls is not a random event?

Could they be all the same person or a ring of people using IP changing capabilities also ?!


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: AmpEater on October 20, 2011, 01:33:23 AM
There do seem to be more trolls than makes any sense to me.  People who spend their time reading a message board of a project they dont support so actively they are often the first responses?  Odd


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 02:15:13 AM
There do seem to be more trolls than makes any sense to me.  People who spend their time reading a message board of a project they dont support so actively they are often the first responses?  Odd

Exactly. And their comments are longer than ever.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: ineededausername on October 20, 2011, 02:18:04 AM
There do seem to be more trolls than makes any sense to me.  People who spend their time reading a message board of a project they dont support so actively they are often the first responses?  Odd

Exactly. And their comments are longer than ever.

It's amazing, isn't it?  But such is life on the internet.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 02:18:50 AM
...who thinks the flood of trolls is not a random event?

Could they be all the same person or a ring of people using IP changing capabilities also ?!

Is there a way to know that?


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: bitleaker on October 20, 2011, 02:24:22 AM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 02:25:03 AM
There do seem to be more trolls than makes any sense to me.  People who spend their time reading a message board of a project they dont support so actively they are often the first responses?  Odd

Exactly. And their comments are longer than ever.

It's amazing, isn't it?  But such is life on the internet.

You mean you don't find that odd? Another thing that I notice is the large amount of hardworking trolls with a short story in the forum.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 02:29:00 AM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: Giraffe.BTC on October 20, 2011, 03:01:50 AM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0
LOL.  It says something about this forum that I knew you were talking about posts like mine and not the OP of that thread.  Because of course a tinfoil hat thread about sinister forces marshaling to drive down prices is a quality contribution, whereas any post that hints at the facts in front of your face being a natural (and predictable) consequence of weaknesses in the project has to be trolling. 

Hilarious.  I'll report to my masters (a shadowy cabal of bankers and global power brokers) that you're onto us and Operation Post On A Web Forum will have to be aborted.  Stand by for phase two:  Operation Send Out Some Tweets.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 03:53:59 AM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0
LOL.  It says something about this forum that I knew you were talking about posts like mine and not the OP of that thread.  Because of course a tinfoil hat thread about sinister forces marshaling to drive down prices is a quality contribution, whereas any post that hints at the facts in front of your face being a natural (and predictable) consequence of weaknesses in the project has to be trolling. 

Hilarious.  I'll report to my masters (a shadowy cabal of bankers and global power brokers) that you're onto us and Operation Post On A Web Forum will have to be aborted.  Stand by for phase two:  Operation Send Out Some Tweets.

It just strikes me the amount of energy you invest in something you consider a failure.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: cypherdoc on October 20, 2011, 05:18:13 AM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0
LOL.  It says something about this forum that I knew you were talking about posts like mine and not the OP of that thread.  Because of course a tinfoil hat thread about sinister forces marshaling to drive down prices is a quality contribution, whereas any post that hints at the facts in front of your face being a natural (and predictable) consequence of weaknesses in the project has to be trolling. 

Hilarious.  I'll report to my masters (a shadowy cabal of bankers and global power brokers) that you're onto us and Operation Post On A Web Forum will have to be aborted.  Stand by for phase two:  Operation Send Out Some Tweets.

It just strikes me the amount of energy you invest in something you consider a failure.

not to mention the fact that he views an up and down move in a fledgling currency in a short 6 mo of a 3 yr lifespan an indicator of failure.  LOL!


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: hxtop on October 20, 2011, 05:20:54 AM
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Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: tvbcof on October 20, 2011, 05:33:48 AM
...who thinks the flood of trolls is not a random event?

I personally doubt it.  Looks to me like a small number of people and their sock puppets with a long-ish term goal of engineering a short-squeeze and some late-to-the-party copy-cats.  This kind of thing is at least as old as the dot-com bubble days.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: Giraffe.BTC on October 20, 2011, 05:42:14 AM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0
LOL.  It says something about this forum that I knew you were talking about posts like mine and not the OP of that thread.  Because of course a tinfoil hat thread about sinister forces marshaling to drive down prices is a quality contribution, whereas any post that hints at the facts in front of your face being a natural (and predictable) consequence of weaknesses in the project has to be trolling. 

Hilarious.  I'll report to my masters (a shadowy cabal of bankers and global power brokers) that you're onto us and Operation Post On A Web Forum will have to be aborted.  Stand by for phase two:  Operation Send Out Some Tweets.

It just strikes me the amount of energy you invest in something you consider a failure.

not to mention the fact that he views an up and down move in a fledgling currency in a short 6 mo of a 3 yr lifespan an indicator of failure.  LOL!

Did you read my post in that thread?  I didn't say anything even close to that.  What I said was that the price has and will continue to drop because Bitcoin has not achieved any objective value beyond speculation, and the speculators' ability and willingness to throw money at it is being overwhelmed by the number of coins being mined and the large supply currently held only for the increasingly unlikely hope of long term gains.  

I know it's easier to argue against what you wish people were saying than what they actually are, but it's lazy.  It's also a lot closer to trolling than anything I've posted.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: rainingbitcoins on October 20, 2011, 05:48:33 AM
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Agreed.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 05:52:01 AM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0
LOL.  It says something about this forum that I knew you were talking about posts like mine and not the OP of that thread.  Because of course a tinfoil hat thread about sinister forces marshaling to drive down prices is a quality contribution, whereas any post that hints at the facts in front of your face being a natural (and predictable) consequence of weaknesses in the project has to be trolling.  

Hilarious.  I'll report to my masters (a shadowy cabal of bankers and global power brokers) that you're onto us and Operation Post On A Web Forum will have to be aborted.  Stand by for phase two:  Operation Send Out Some Tweets.

It just strikes me the amount of energy you invest in something you consider a failure.

not to mention the fact that he views an up and down move in a fledgling currency in a short 6 mo of a 3 yr lifespan an indicator of failure.  LOL!

Did you read my post in that thread?  I didn't say anything even close to that.  What I said was that the price has and will continue to drop because Bitcoin has not achieved any objective value beyond speculation, and the speculators' ability and willingness to throw money at it is being overwhelmed by the number of coins being mined and the large supply currently held only for the increasingly unlikely hope of long term gains.  

I know it's easier to argue against what you wish people were saying than what they actually are, but it's lazy.  It's also a lot closer to trolling than anything I've posted.

Ok, then what is your goal? Teaching?


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: Giraffe.BTC on October 20, 2011, 03:27:40 PM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0
LOL.  It says something about this forum that I knew you were talking about posts like mine and not the OP of that thread.  Because of course a tinfoil hat thread about sinister forces marshaling to drive down prices is a quality contribution, whereas any post that hints at the facts in front of your face being a natural (and predictable) consequence of weaknesses in the project has to be trolling.  

Hilarious.  I'll report to my masters (a shadowy cabal of bankers and global power brokers) that you're onto us and Operation Post On A Web Forum will have to be aborted.  Stand by for phase two:  Operation Send Out Some Tweets.

It just strikes me the amount of energy you invest in something you consider a failure.

not to mention the fact that he views an up and down move in a fledgling currency in a short 6 mo of a 3 yr lifespan an indicator of failure.  LOL!

Did you read my post in that thread?  I didn't say anything even close to that.  What I said was that the price has and will continue to drop because Bitcoin has not achieved any objective value beyond speculation, and the speculators' ability and willingness to throw money at it is being overwhelmed by the number of coins being mined and the large supply currently held only for the increasingly unlikely hope of long term gains.  

I know it's easier to argue against what you wish people were saying than what they actually are, but it's lazy.  It's also a lot closer to trolling than anything I've posted.

Ok, then what is your goal? Teaching?

Uh, I'm guessing the same as yours:  to read and post on a web forum.  Well, not quite the same as yours, because I'm not starting tinfoil hat threads.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: majamalu on October 20, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I haven't noticed much trolling going on myself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49051.0
LOL.  It says something about this forum that I knew you were talking about posts like mine and not the OP of that thread.  Because of course a tinfoil hat thread about sinister forces marshaling to drive down prices is a quality contribution, whereas any post that hints at the facts in front of your face being a natural (and predictable) consequence of weaknesses in the project has to be trolling.  

Hilarious.  I'll report to my masters (a shadowy cabal of bankers and global power brokers) that you're onto us and Operation Post On A Web Forum will have to be aborted.  Stand by for phase two:  Operation Send Out Some Tweets.

It just strikes me the amount of energy you invest in something you consider a failure.

not to mention the fact that he views an up and down move in a fledgling currency in a short 6 mo of a 3 yr lifespan an indicator of failure.  LOL!

Did you read my post in that thread?  I didn't say anything even close to that.  What I said was that the price has and will continue to drop because Bitcoin has not achieved any objective value beyond speculation, and the speculators' ability and willingness to throw money at it is being overwhelmed by the number of coins being mined and the large supply currently held only for the increasingly unlikely hope of long term gains.  

I know it's easier to argue against what you wish people were saying than what they actually are, but it's lazy.  It's also a lot closer to trolling than anything I've posted.

Ok, then what is your goal? Teaching?

Uh, I'm guessing the same as yours:  to read and post on a web forum.  Well, not quite the same as yours, because I'm not starting tinfoil hat threads.

I still wonder what your motivation is.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: RodeoX on October 20, 2011, 07:38:13 PM
It looks to me like something is up. About a week ago we started getting lots of new accounts that bash bitcoin. We have seen this before. I don't understand someones motivation to hear about bitcoin then set up an account to repeatedly say how much they hate it. Unless their greedy motivation is to drive down price while they still can. Greed is easy to understand.


Title: Re: Am I the only one here...
Post by: tvbcof on October 20, 2011, 07:43:57 PM
...who thinks the flood of trolls is not a random event?

I personally doubt it.  Looks to me like a small number of people and their sock puppets with a long-ish term goal of engineering a short-squeeze and some late-to-the-party copy-cats.  This kind of thing is at least as old as the dot-com bubble days.

What people are you even talking about? The fuckwads in the 'speculation' subforum? Everyone else here is here to learn and or teach buddy. No secret agenda (except the one about making fun of idiots here).

I was not clear that I doubt the conspiracy angle.  I expect that they are independently operating jerk-offs, but I don't see that they limit themselves to the speculation board.

But I do appreciate all the lessons on these forums.  One of the first lesson I learned when scouting around here was that some people make noise about being on the cusp of starting up a 20,000 GPU server farm when the actual fact of the matter is that they cannot even come up with one fucking BTC that they clearly owe to someone else.