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Title: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Funmmi2 on August 19, 2018, 02:17:43 PM
 The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: hash25 on August 19, 2018, 02:27:06 PM
That could be, because even now we can check the bitcoin balance without having to log in blockchain.

Actually, How to Check BitCoin Balance without Blockchain Login is not a new way, but maybe there is between Bitcoiner who have never tried it, please use this method to see your Balance on Waallet quickly at any time.

The method is very easy, you just have to make a link like this

https://blockchain.info/address/ Your Wallet Address

Then the Balance Balance in your Wallet is immediately displayed along with a complete Transaction history.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Diego_Davis on August 19, 2018, 02:38:55 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
What do you mean by Bitcoin being ahead of the Blockchain tech? Of course there are lots of people all over the world interested in mining and trading Bitcoin. That's because, as you pointed out, they can make money off of it. There are loads of other possible applications for blockchain though. They don't actually have to have anything to do with a crypto currency. It's just the idea of having a ledger shared across many different systems. If you just Google applications for blockchain, you'll see that many people are working on other ideas. This includes using blockchain for elections, shipping companies, online payment systems, etc.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Jansaa on August 19, 2018, 02:51:30 PM
The success of Bitcoin has made people more aware and interested in Blockchain than before, Blockchian technology has changed the way it uses currency and valuable assets!


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Amokomowo2005 on August 19, 2018, 03:26:57 PM
its not going to happen at all, the future of cryptocurrency lies on bitcoin and will remain to lead the revolution to the end, its the pioneer and we need to note that.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: bobo012 on August 19, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?

No it wont happen. Blockchain without the token does not exist. It can be called bitcoin or whatever but it is nothing without it. In this case it is called bitcoin. All blockchains must have some sort of tokens


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: bitmover on August 19, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?

For now it's highly unlikely that blockchain adoption will happen without bitcoin.
Everything depends on bitcoin performance for now.

I see many people crying about altcoins and bitcoin price being attached, and saying that the reason for this is that bitcoin has more fiat pairs.

But I don't believe in this theory.

I think altcoins and bitcoin's price is attached, highly correlatated, because bitcoin is the most important cryptocurrency, and if it fails, the others will fail too.

Bitcoin also has the best developer team, best infrastructure, first mover...

So blockchain technology adoption, for now, depends on bitcoin success, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: khufuking on August 19, 2018, 04:31:32 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
I really do not understand your question or what you mean by it! Bitcoin is a currency built on the blockchain technology therefor Bitcoin on its own is not a tech it is just a currency.

The blockchain is already used in some projects that do not have any cryptocurrency at all. Even people that do no like Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies still admit that Blockchain is the future and probably the most important invention after the internet in this era.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: demenBTC on August 19, 2018, 04:33:19 PM
That could be, because even now we can check the bitcoin balance without having to log in blockchain.

Actually, How to Check BitCoin Balance without Blockchain Login is not a new way, but maybe there is between Bitcoiner who have never tried it, please use this method to see your Balance on Waallet quickly at any time.

The method is very easy, you just have to make a link like this

https://blockchain.info/address/ Your Wallet Address

Then the Balance Balance in your Wallet is immediately displayed along with a complete Transaction history.
yes, if you want to see your balance you don't need to enter Blokchain, but do you make shipments and withdrawals don't use blokchain? bitcoin technology is blokchain


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: munify on August 19, 2018, 04:46:17 PM
I think bitcoin plays an important role in crypto. Bitcoin will remain on the blockchain, and blockchain cannot stand without bitcoin.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: btyco on August 19, 2018, 04:46:35 PM
For that to happen altcoins will have to dominate over bitcoin so people will use these practical use coins instead. However, the markets indicate that bitcoin is still the clear leader and it is likely to stay that way for many years to come


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: YuginKadoya on August 19, 2018, 05:07:37 PM
Well a lot are saying that the Blockchain technology is a genius that needs to gets separated with Bitcoin because bitcoin is just there as a currency that is a scam and a fraud,

But the actual technology is not separated when you have blockchain there is bitcoin inside it, The technology of blockchain is a nodes that computes a complicated puzzle or solving a problem blockchain provides bitcoin a security it needed and bitcoin needs to have a value so that it can provides payment for blockchain the one that is providing its security and by having more difficult problems to be solve by blockchain there is a bitcoin that surely provides payment for it, When the number of solve problems progress so are the value of bitcoin, They surely work in tandem.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Tory-Tory on August 19, 2018, 05:24:02 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
If there is no bitcoin, what factors restrain the volatility in other crypto-currencies? I think that in this sphere, the volatility will be even without bitcoin.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: r1s2g3 on August 19, 2018, 05:43:40 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?

Blockchain adoption is already taken place. IBM has it own Blockchain offering.

https://www.ibm.com/blockchain

Oracle also has its own blockchain offering

https://www.oracle.com/cloud/blockchain/index.html

There are numerous project going on blockchain and I am not going to name all. None of these company using Bitcoin or taking bitcoin as a payment for their offering. Bitcoin volatility has no effect on success  these project.




For now it's highly unlikely that blockchain adoption will happen without bitcoin.
Everything depends on bitcoin performance for now.


These company has their own flavour of blockchain. Permissioned and restricted Blockchain. They are not going use the Bitcoin blockchain so they are not at all dependenent on Bitcoin performance.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: kryptqnick on August 19, 2018, 06:07:50 PM
its not going to happen at all, the future of cryptocurrency lies on bitcoin and will remain to lead the revolution to the end, its the pioneer and we need to note that.
Well, while bitcoin is and may continue to be the king of cryptos, blockchain is not just about cryptocurrencies. It is a way to form a database with chronological changes with elements and inability to change the state of a specific element on a specific stage. It should not necessarily be a way of monetizing projects. Blockchain can be used to store data on characters and objects from an rpg, weather forecast, banking information etc. The tech is actually pretty universal and its application number is limited mainly by our imagination. People focus on cryptos and bitcoin specifically, but it can also be something extremely different from that and yet not less awesome. So surely blockchain can part ways with bitcoin and move forward, expanding from cryptocurrency usage into other areas.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: jvdp on August 19, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?


Blockchain and cryptocurrency are operating with the combination of both side efforts so we cannot separate it or make any changes on it.

Since I noticed the people invested on dapps development mostly people are going towards the public blockchain only. very few projects only going towards the private blockchain platform mate.

Adoption delay is not be without bitcoin and none of crypto users will agree it. Goverment have very less understanding about the bitcoin. If got to know all will be work perfect.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Fred3030 on August 19, 2018, 06:28:59 PM
I don't see bitcoin leaving the cryptocurrency scene, it will not happen, let's not forget bitcoin is the pioneer and father of all other cryptocurrency. In my own opinion it will remain in the scene.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: hxtop on August 19, 2018, 06:31:53 PM
Even without bitcoin, blockchain will always be. Of course, i want that the bitcoin the king of crypto, is better developed and the bitcoin always exists but it isn't a technology that depends on the blockchain bitcoin.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Fenixsfeather on August 19, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
Yeah, blockchain is universal technology, so it will easily live without bitcoin. And it feels like bitcoin won't globalize.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: outgoing788 on August 19, 2018, 11:36:44 PM
Blockchain technology is the formation of bitcoin. And today bitcoin is the focal point for transactions, so bitcoin dominates most electronic money markets.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Cryptohunt on August 21, 2018, 01:07:09 PM
never, bitcoin is the parent of blockchain
the famous blockchain world because of the existence of bitcoin, and even in my opinion the number of ico on blockchain is the way for investors to collect as much bitcoin as possible.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: ranman09 on August 21, 2018, 01:12:32 PM
I think it can happen but it will be hard for them. Bitcoin is secure because of the many nodes that build up the network, just like Onion. They will need more nodes like bitcoin has.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: tegarp90 on August 21, 2018, 01:13:52 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?

It could be happen because right now there are many blockchain based coins.
But, bitcoin is mother of crypto, and i'm not sure it will disappear if something accident not happen


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: 0t3p0t on August 21, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
For me I think it won't happen because blockchain technology was created just to have Bitcoin running on it's system wherein everything is decentralized. It is like blockchain technology won't exist without the idea of Bitcoin but yeah I am not Satoshi Nakamoto who really have the best explaination we need this time. One last thing is that maybe blockchain technology and Bitcoin is like food and water without one of them it won't work perfectly for humans.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: kasurnya on August 21, 2018, 01:30:11 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Of course, blockchain is a super sophisticated security system that can be applied in all of the aspect.
but I doubt bitcoin can survive without blockchain.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Qeupe on August 21, 2018, 01:31:48 PM
I think both are inseparable, blockchain and bitcoin depend on both.
In that regard, Bitcoin and Blockchain in general are a real breakthrough as provide both the technology and the business model for the technology. Splitting the two would only result in more than the same problems that the web faces: centralization, monopolies, and disproportionate influence of capital over labor.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: cryptoalfs76 on August 21, 2018, 01:35:26 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?


Actualy both are important in order to maintain the process flow in the crypto market, the bitcoin and the  blockchain technology should accompanied always to maintain the decentralized market,so therefore we conclude thats theres no bitcoin without blockchain and vice versa there is no blockchain without the involvement of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: jmvzlfyg on August 21, 2018, 01:41:59 PM
Without Bitcoin, the chunk chain will lose its value in a short time, because token is important in the chunk chain. It is an incentive mechanism, and only if there is a chunk chain can it be more valuable and creative.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: znation on August 21, 2018, 01:44:34 PM
Blockchain without Bitcoin is very difficult to achieve in the future, blockchain must go together with bitcoin to be able to apply and develop.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: HeXecutor on August 21, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Yes, definitely this technology will sooner or later be introduced into various spheres of human life. It provides many opportunities. However, there is one thing in which most likely this technology will not be used ever. These are state elections. Since using this it is impossible to fake election results =)


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: bitterdog on August 21, 2018, 02:17:23 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
I think blockchain will remain to be used although without bitcoin. Because, like we all already know, blockchain is something like the backbone of the system that supporting bitcoin and the other kind of coins. So, if one day bitcoin will going to collapse, blockchain remain strong.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: pangitkaayo on August 21, 2018, 02:20:30 PM
I think that would not happen but if it happens then maybe bitcoin still works but it doesn't rely on blockchain it would rely on other apps i guess. This is just my opinion.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Frallen on August 21, 2018, 02:24:06 PM
I think bitcoin will be replaced by a more sophisticated crypto currency


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Indamuck on August 21, 2018, 02:27:53 PM
Without the financial incentive blockchain wouldn't have become this popular.  People come here for the gains but stay for the technology.  The whole point of blockchain is to be decentralized and not hage one person in complete control of the ledger like how the banking system works.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: hachiman13 on August 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
The technology has been found so it won't ever be lost. Bitcoin can 'die' but blockchain has numerous real-life application. It just so happens that these two are linked to each other because blockchain's first utilization is in digital currency.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Thirdspace on August 21, 2018, 02:40:02 PM
A block chain is a transaction database shared by all nodes participating in a system based on the Bitcoin protocol. A full copy of a currency's block chain contains every transaction ever executed in the currency.
the simple short meaning of blockchain is a shared database
while it's true blockchain used for the first time in bitcoin crypto currency
that doesn't mean blockchain cannot be used for other things than crypto currency
as long as blockchain is implemented with proper cryptography technique
we can apply the blockchain system to some other possible areas or subjects


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Glory90 on August 21, 2018, 02:56:15 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
it has happened, there are many blockchains created in this era and their blockchain networks can run without using Bitcoin, so actually Bitcoin price volatility has no effect on blockchain adoption


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Akenosi on August 26, 2018, 09:13:59 PM
No i dont think is going to happen because its blockchain technology that birth the bitcoin and other altcoin we seeing today,if no blockchain we wont have cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Rozita on August 26, 2018, 09:26:15 PM
First of all, I think bitcoin will exist forever and blockchain and bitcoin will be together all the times. But note that bitcoin needs blockchain to exist. But blockchain doesn't need bitcoin to exist. Blockchain technology has many other advantages.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: rodskee on August 26, 2018, 09:36:38 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?


Blockchain is a partner of bitcoin as volatile decentralized cryptocurrency
I can't imagine how to run bitcoin without blockchain because it's important for bitcoin storied into blockchain wallet.

WITHOUT BLOCKCHAIN NO BITCOIN


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: worldofcoins on August 26, 2018, 09:47:12 PM
Blockchain is central to Bitcoin, we know that, right? To the questions of whether Blockchain can survive without Bitcoin, I think it be possible in the future if Bitcoin was to become less of a market dominator, only time can tell.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: kr105 on August 26, 2018, 09:57:13 PM
Blockchain is a technology and has played a major role in the recognition of bitcoin blockchain. Bitcoin is also valuable as a cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on August 26, 2018, 09:59:07 PM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?

You're wrong, Bitcoin doesn't stop blockchain adoption, investors are investing in whatever they think will be successful, companies are using whatever they think is going to benefit them. Blockchain is not getting adopted because it's a highly experimental tech, it doesn't actually solve many real world problems, is very hard to implement and has its own flaws. That's why tons of altcoins and ICO's have failed and are going to fail, not because Bitcoin is drawing undeserved attention.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: spazie on August 26, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
Bitcoin is digital money that can make trading and can make money, Blockchain is a ledger that is not managed and controlled by only one party or organization, in my opinion blockchain without bitcoin can happen.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: Buttermellow on August 26, 2018, 10:04:11 PM
Yes it could have bitcoin without blockchain but the market price for bitcoin will not go higher than as of this moment because the highlight of bitcoin is the blockchain technology. As we all know that because of the use of blockchain technology bitcoin has becoome widely used in different application to promote transaparency and if this will be used in a form of payment in a certain system or organization this will detect or eradicate corruption because of the blockchain tech. transaparency.


Title: Re: Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?
Post by: levvv on August 27, 2018, 03:49:43 AM
The volatility in Bitcoin is an avenue for traders to earn money, this arrangement puts Bitcoin ahead of the Blockchain tech. thereby delaying global Blockchain adoption.  Blockchain without Bitcoin, is it going to happen?

Blockchain without bitcoin is like son without father. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency, the parent of all cryptocurrency and blockchain.
In the market, bitcoin is still dominating across the time every years. The average of bitcoin dominance is not below than 50% in coinmarketcap.