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Title: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: aliitp on August 19, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
This sounds like a silly questions but am gonna buy the trezor but unfortunately the official store does not support paypal, only CC or BTC, so were to buy BTC with PayPal, or is there any TRUSTED place to buy trezor with paypal ??...  ??? ???

thanks,


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: OmegaStarScream on August 19, 2018, 04:25:23 PM
It's already answered in their FAQ. You cannot so you'll have to buy bitcoins using PayPal and then buy the Trezor: https://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-faq/eshop.html#i-don-t-have-any-bitcoins-can-i-pay-with-credit-card-paypal-or-wire-transfer


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: Velkro on August 19, 2018, 05:37:37 PM
You cannot so you'll have to buy bitcoins using PayPal and then buy the Trezor
Remember always that you pay premium on bitcoin price with Paypal because of fraud risk.
Paypal and Bitcoin is not got marriage. Best would be to Paypal --> bank --> bitcoin --> rest


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: BQ on August 19, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
I actually struggled to find somewhere to buy bitcoin myself using PayPal a while back, and as earlier poster said, I don't think there's any way to buy 1:1 so to say. it's either buying things like gift cards and selling them on "paxful.com", but with a huge % loss. or you could try this:
https://medium.com/@briananderson_99612/how-to-purchase-bitcoin-btc-using-paypal-1cb1a66fd19e
I never did myself, seemed problematic.

unless you can buy via like ebay perhaps if there's authorized sellers? but, surely the smartest way to go about it would be simply withdrawing. or maybe sending it to a friend who could buy for you or something.


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: gentlemand on August 19, 2018, 06:55:58 PM
https://trezor.io/resellers/

That's the official list of Trezor resellers. There MUST be a few who do Paypal. One of the UK ones is on Ebay.

I'd still try and obtain BTC and buy direct myself. Fuck using Paypal to do it. You must have other options.


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: gorkem on August 19, 2018, 11:11:02 PM
You can buy trezor on their official site, but I'm propose your buy new version Model T. But I'm payed from my mastercard and get it on DHL


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: aliitp on August 21, 2018, 10:43:46 AM
https://trezor.io/resellers/

That's the official list of Trezor resellers. There MUST be a few who do Paypal. One of the UK ones is on Ebay.

I'd still try and obtain BTC and buy direct myself. Fuck using Paypal to do it. You must have other options.


Thanks a lot i did order one thanks to you  ;)


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: PoohSup on August 21, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Why is Trezor better that just using Bitcoin Core on a laptop?


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: jseverson on August 22, 2018, 02:07:39 AM
Why is Trezor better that just using Bitcoin Core on a laptop?

Because Trezor is effectively a cold wallet; it doesn't expose your private keys online ever. It's been invulnerable to remote attacks so far.

Bitcoin Core is also safe, but because your keys are stored in an online device (though it can be used offline), it has more possible attack vectors.


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: PoohSup on August 22, 2018, 03:58:40 PM
Why is Trezor better that just using Bitcoin Core on a laptop?

Because Trezor is effectively a cold wallet; it doesn't expose your private keys online ever. It's been invulnerable to remote attacks so far.

Bitcoin Core is also safe, but because your keys are stored in an online device (though it can be used offline), it has more possible attack vectors.

It appears to me that Trezor offers smaller attack surface which is great. Am I correct by ordering these by safest first:

1 - Cold storage (i.e. paper, usb in a safe) only for long term storing
2 - Trezor
3 - Bitcoin Core



Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: BQ on August 22, 2018, 10:55:02 PM
Why is Trezor better that just using Bitcoin Core on a laptop?

Because Trezor is effectively a cold wallet; it doesn't expose your private keys online ever. It's been invulnerable to remote attacks so far.

Bitcoin Core is also safe, but because your keys are stored in an online device (though it can be used offline), it has more possible attack vectors.

It appears to me that Trezor offers smaller attack surface which is great. Am I correct by ordering these by safest first:

1 - Cold storage (i.e. paper, usb in a safe) only for long term storing
2 - Trezor
3 - Bitcoin Core



with a trezor, even if you wanted, you can never know the private key, nor can any computer or virus or any other person!
a piece of paper or an usb is safe aslong as the entire process of generating your key and writing it down, was done properly. it's simply easier and much more convinient to use trezor, but it also costs.
I wrote some more about this here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3576100)  ;D


Title: Re: where to buy a trezor/VTC with paypal ?...
Post by: jseverson on August 23, 2018, 01:48:27 AM
-snip-
It appears to me that Trezor offers smaller attack surface which is great. Am I correct by ordering these by safest first:

1 - Cold storage (i.e. paper, usb in a safe) only for long term storing
2 - Trezor
3 - Bitcoin Core

That's about right in my opinion. Cold storages should come with fine print that says "if set up correctly" though, because you do need a tiny bit of technical knowledge to create one perfectly. I would also like to note that the gap between 1 and 2 is much smaller than the gap between 2 and 3, just by courtesy of 1 and 2 being offline storages (and to a smaller extent, Trezor being open source).