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Title: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: ToddWentworth on February 28, 2014, 05:45:56 PM
It doesn't make sense. That's like the biggest invasion of privacy there is.

Where's Satoshi Nakayama's wallet?


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: dbbit on February 28, 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Where's Satoshi Nakayama's wallet?

Here:
http://blockchain.info/block-index/1

and here:
http://blockchain.info/block-index/2

and here:
http://blockchain.info/block-index/3

etc...


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: ToddWentworth on February 28, 2014, 05:53:50 PM
So Satoshi lives off the Gulf of Guinea? On a life raft? There isn't even an island there.



Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: joschua011 on February 28, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
It doesn't make sense. That's like the biggest invasion of privacy there is.

Where's Satoshi Nakayama's wallet?


Why do i let people see my wallet?


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: sgk on February 28, 2014, 05:58:09 PM
Showing your wallet address to someone is like showing your bank account number to someone. Anyone can deposit money into it, if you're ok with it :)


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: flower1024 on February 28, 2014, 06:02:53 PM
Showing your wallet address to someone is like showing your bank account number to someone. Anyone can deposit money into it, if you're ok with it :)

there is a huge difference. you usually dont have very much bank accounts but everybody can have very much bitcoin addresses


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: pizzaboy69696969 on February 28, 2014, 06:30:39 PM
Showing your wallet address to someone is like showing your bank account number to someone. Anyone can deposit money into it, if you're ok with it :)

It's like an anonymous bank account.  A little strange at first, but there's nothing wrong with it!


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: sgk on February 28, 2014, 06:39:02 PM
Showing your wallet address to someone is like showing your bank account number to someone. Anyone can deposit money into it, if you're ok with it :)

there is a huge difference. you usually dont have very much bank accounts but everybody can have very much bitcoin addresses

I understand; I myself use multiple wallet addresses. But I still don't see the point in OP's concern of not disclosing the wallet address.


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on February 28, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
Where's Satoshi Nakayama's wallet?
Who?


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: RodeoX on February 28, 2014, 06:47:36 PM
There are public keys and private keys. Don't show your privates.  :-[


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: giszmo on February 28, 2014, 06:52:41 PM
So Satoshi lives off the Gulf of Guinea? On a life raft? There isn't even an island there.

this "address" is simply 0/0 because "Relayed By" is "Unknown".


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: pbj sammich on February 28, 2014, 06:56:27 PM

apparently he was a Shotokan karate guy....


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on February 28, 2014, 07:16:13 PM
It doesn't make sense. That's like the biggest invasion of privacy there is.
The blockchain is a public ledger, it has to be public for a decentralised system to work.
Anyone can see the amount in an address, but it is difficult to match that address to a person/business, but not impossible.

A wallet is a collection of addresses. The blockchain doesn't directly reveal what addresses are in the same wallet. But through blockchain analysis it is sometimes possible to link multiple address together that originated from the same wallet.

Where's Satoshi Nakayama's wallet?
No idea.




Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: Vitamin on February 28, 2014, 07:42:37 PM
I think the OP is confused.  Every wallet has two simutainous addresses.  One for sending money, and one for reciveing money.  You're sending address you obviously want to keep private, the recieving address who cares?


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: Musent on February 28, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
It doesn't hurt?


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: FalconFly on February 28, 2014, 09:19:44 PM
I think the OP is confused.  Every wallet has two simutainous addresses.  One for sending money, and one for reciveing money.  You're sending address you obviously want to keep private, the recieving address who cares?

Don't know what Wallet you use - but mine has only one address (both for sending and receiving).
If I wanted to setup another wallet, I can of course create another - but transfering funds inbetween them requires the full fee.


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: dbbit on March 01, 2014, 12:42:07 AM
Don't know what Wallet you use - but mine has only one address (both for sending and receiving).
If I wanted to setup another wallet, I can of course create another - but transfering funds inbetween them requires the full fee.

1) Copy that address into your clipboard
2) Click Help \ Debug \ and go to the Console tab
3) In the console, type:
dumpprivkey paste-the-address-from-1-above
4) Press enter

That's your other key.



Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: wayneyoyo on March 01, 2014, 01:02:24 AM
Its not matter


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: Meuh6879 on March 01, 2014, 01:03:57 AM
you can use a "phantom system" like https://bitmixer.io/faqs.html
it exchange BTC for other not linked to the first ... a good system (fee applied) if this is real.


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: BawsyBoss on March 01, 2014, 02:06:50 AM
Don't know what Wallet you use - but mine has only one address (both for sending and receiving).
If I wanted to setup another wallet, I can of course create another - but transfering funds inbetween them requires the full fee.

1) Copy that address into your clipboard
2) Click Help \ Debug \ and go to the Console tab
3) In the console, type:
dumpprivkey paste-the-address-from-1-above
4) Press enter

That's your other key.


Those 2 things make up one address, not two. When you send, the blockchain registers it as sent from the public key. The private key is only needed to create the transaction. Also, most wallets will have more than 1 address.


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: FalconFly on March 01, 2014, 07:50:16 AM
Don't know what Wallet you use - but mine has only one address (both for sending and receiving).
If I wanted to setup another wallet, I can of course create another - but transfering funds inbetween them requires the full fee.

1) Copy that address into your clipboard
2) Click Help \ Debug \ and go to the Console tab
3) In the console, type:
dumpprivkey paste-the-address-from-1-above
4) Press enter

That's your other key.

My Multibit does not have a Help/Debug option or a Console tab ;)
See the problem? I knew you'd state something like that. There's a ton of feature-rich tweakable Wallets out there, but those are not meant for the average user.

The recommended Wallet downloads given by bitcoin.org are described as follows :

Bitcoin-Qt
Bitcoin-Qt is a full Bitcoin client and builds the backbone of the network. It offers the highest levels of security, privacy, and stability. However, it has fewer features and it takes a lot of space and memory.

MultiBit
MultiBit is a lightweight client that focuses on being fast and easy to use. It synchronizes with the network and is ready to use in minutes. MultiBit also supports many languages. It is a good choice for non-technical users.


From what I know, it seems the Bitcoin-QT description is at best misleading or downright wrong concerning features (depends on point of view).
The average user is not supposed to understand & run the compiled QT application, as he doesn't need most of its features for BTC transactions.
(might be paranoid, but running the QT node i.e. on a normal Windows machine advertising its presence into the network -while holding the wallet- always seemed not quite a good idea to me, obviously not because of Bitcoin-QT security concerns, but because of the platform it runs on in this case)

That means the "standard" Wallet offered by Bitcoin.org does not have many of the options the BTC network actually offers, hence my original comment.


Title: Re: Why you guys wanna let people see your wallets?
Post by: ISAWHIM on March 01, 2014, 08:02:56 AM
There are public keys and private keys. Don't show your privates.  :-[

I like showing my privates...

Oh... Private keys! NVM