Title: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on August 20, 2018, 01:07:51 PM Hi guys,
as we are now offering pre order for the Holic Miners we want to introduce them also to public in order to avoid scam accusations. The founder of Holictech is a big Farmowner in southern Europe - we have seen 2 farms in person and also had business with him in the past. Since last year he approached us with the thought to create his own Mining machines primarily to use at his own farm locations. We agreed that Cryptouniverse will do the distribution of Holic Miners. Website: http://holictec.com/ Pre orders at Cryptouniverse: https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/holic-h22-22th-s-bitcoin-miner-pre-order/ Facts:
Current Design - Holic H22 Specs:
Later Design - Holic H28 Specs:
Currently the Holic H22 is estimated to ship out in December 2018 (First batch), Second batch is estimated to ship in mid/late Q1. https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/39814314_514859232260359_809472666665746432_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=03fe1906c40619e61549e7275dcc5001&oe=5C05B56C (https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/39814314_514859232260359_809472666665746432_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=03fe1906c40619e61549e7275dcc5001&oe=5C05B56C) https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/holic-5t.png (https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/holic-5t.png) https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/holc_1.jpg (https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/holc_1.jpg) https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Holic_3.jpg (https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Holic_3.jpg) https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/holic_6.jpg (https://www.cryptouniverse.at/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/holic_6.jpg) Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: NorthStarGrime on August 20, 2018, 02:17:42 PM Video of miners?
showing hashrate in operation? Design looks nice I like the idea of the hotswap psu. Would this support asicboost? Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 20, 2018, 04:03:58 PM Would this support asicboost? Or more to the point, does it REQUIRE using a pool that supports AB? Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Steamtyme on August 20, 2018, 08:36:12 PM Nice looking machine. Any information on the warranty? Would the PSU be included in the warranty?
Any info/specs on the PSU?? Efficiency or cost in case you want to have a spare on hand? Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: kano on August 21, 2018, 12:51:38 AM The list of issues with this one:
1) Highest: it's a pre-order from an unknown 2) can't fit all that in the tiny box 3) Hey we have 22TH and the next one will be 28TH <- so why is the first one unreleased only 22TH? :P 4) It's better and faster than anyone else coz ... um why? <- to make people throw away their money and give it to them 5) some random miner in EU decides he wanted to make his own miners and managed to get people better than everyone else making miners ... <- ok that seals the "it's a scam" deal Edit: and as someone else mentioned ... How can you hot swap a PSU? LOL Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 21, 2018, 12:57:38 AM Ja. It takes n+1 PSU's to pull/replace one without shutting down... A single PSU cannot be 'hot-swap'. Simple slide out/in for (power off) replacement, sure.
Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: HyperMega on August 21, 2018, 08:00:32 AM Globalfoundries 10nm ASICs?
Sorry, no way! GF has 28/22/14/12/7nm. There is no 10nm node at all! Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on August 21, 2018, 12:01:38 PM Regarding PSU, that was kinda a typo what I meant was of course easy replaceable hehe
Other open points will be answered asap. On a sidenote, although we trust the guy, we are also waiting for a working mining prototype in hand to check it out ourselves. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on August 21, 2018, 03:03:21 PM Update:
#chips are from Korea, Samsung - sorry for the missinfo we discussed with the guy month ago and I did not recheck this particular piece of info, just asked and he corrected me that it is Samsung - originally he did not intend to go retail with this product but only B2B like BF #Miners will have no pool restriction, so no asicboost #no detailed info about PSU yet #regarding warranty, I can say if you buy over us we give 2 years guarantee for retail customers We will update as soon as we have a video or prototype in hand or somthing similar. cheers Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: sidehack on August 21, 2018, 04:13:47 PM Is this guy interested in selling chips?
Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: TheYankeesWin! on August 21, 2018, 07:32:34 PM so 22th at 1600 watts
my innosilicon does 17,6th at 1450 watts at the wall (ac) on low speed that is 1450/17600 = 82 watt per th and it ships now. 1600/22000 = 73 watts per th but it may be the dc number so 73/0.92 = 81 watts per th and it come when? dec most likely dec 31 not dec 1 even if it does everything it says it is 120 days slower than the T2Turbo Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on August 21, 2018, 08:03:50 PM sure, it will most probably not be the most efficient thing on the market, just looking at Canaan A9 announcement.
But I would not compare it with Inno(personally). I just do not buy Inno for us or our customers as I think service and quality is bad. Same is with Whatsminer M10 but they dont even have Fcc, Ce which is even more bad. At Inno maybe the miner has CE/FCC, power supply most likely nothing - cheap china psu. @sidehack will ask and post here asap. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on September 17, 2018, 10:48:48 AM Please dont spam the topic, we have seen the farms in greece otherwise we would not have posted this here.
As soon as we have more infos on the hardware we will follow up here. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: HagssFIN on September 17, 2018, 01:53:46 PM Hi Thomas!
Do you know if they would be interested in a miner review? Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: tzortz on September 25, 2018, 10:16:20 AM I live in Athens, you mind if I can see it by myself?
Can you please pm with contact details? Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on September 25, 2018, 10:20:17 AM First sample units are delayed for now. We will update here as we know more.
Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: tzortz on September 25, 2018, 04:40:34 PM I would verify if I could see that farm in Athens, as I said I live here.
Where is that located? Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Thetaj on October 01, 2018, 12:17:02 PM scammers getting called out is always fun
Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on October 01, 2018, 12:23:40 PM I will definately not communicate a farm location to strangers.
Holic takes more time and will communicate as I know more. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: tzortz on October 01, 2018, 01:31:50 PM Yes sure, you are more stranger than anyone , as a seller here.
I doubt anyone would buy with such conditions. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on October 01, 2018, 01:36:15 PM Yes sure, you are more stranger than anyone , as a seller here. I doubt anyone would buy with such conditions. we dont sell them until we have sample or confirmation of working device. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: tzortz on October 01, 2018, 02:40:17 PM we dont sell them until we have sample or confirmation of working device. Ok still, potential seller. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Vikup34 on November 29, 2018, 10:40:26 AM 29/11/2018
holictec.com still selling it's "miners" on it's site cryptouniverse.at/shop/holic-h22-22th-s-bitcoin-miner-pre-order - link is dead no one ever saw any holitec farms Foofighter deleted the link on cryptouniverse "silently", without any notice here. Evaryone can make conclusions for himself. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: rifleman74 on November 29, 2018, 05:36:13 PM 29/11/2018 holictec.com still selling it's "miners" on it's site cryptouniverse.at/shop/holic-h22-22th-s-bitcoin-miner-pre-order - link is dead no one ever saw any holitec farms Foofighter deleted the link on cryptouniverse "silently", without any notice here. Evaryone can make conclusions for himself. Yep vaporware. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Steamtyme on November 29, 2018, 07:07:25 PM I forgot all about this one.
My guess is there were a few groups out there counting on the same Fomo as last year. So they got started early contacted and source they could to create a buzz. However this year no one is paying 300% premiums in hardware, or throwing money at preorders. I can see why cryptouniverse would consider this, because selling hardware is their business. If you have the chance to pick up a small manufacturer here and there it could be good for business. On that same token I wouldn't put my name on anything until I was sure, wouldn't want the rest of the business to suffer. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: tzortz on November 30, 2018, 06:58:38 AM We have seen much of this, so we need to be careful. ;)
Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: Foofighter on December 01, 2018, 09:12:12 AM 29/11/2018 holictec.com still selling it's "miners" on it's site cryptouniverse.at/shop/holic-h22-22th-s-bitcoin-miner-pre-order - link is dead no one ever saw any holitec farms Foofighter deleted the link on cryptouniverse "silently", without any notice here. Evaryone can make conclusions for himself. link deleted with my post on 1. October I think - not really silently. (first approach was to make pre order but then we decided not to sell what we do not have in hand as its a new supplier on market) Yep vaporware. Not vaporware, the project and the team is legit. The market conditions did not allow them to continue as there was a big struggle between new and old chips and the feasibility of them. Now project is abviously on hold due to market. Title: Re: Holictech - Holic H22,H28 - 10nm, 8nm - Sha-256 Miner Post by: tzortz on December 28, 2018, 08:56:44 PM We have any news here?
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