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Title: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: ltcsprite on August 20, 2018, 05:14:39 PM
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/20-series/

Lordy lordy. 

Anyone ordering anything?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: fanatic26_ on August 20, 2018, 05:21:58 PM
I cant imagine these go flying off the shelves at those prices. No games can take advantage of the new tech yet, founder edition cards are always hot loud pieces of junk, and the mining payback period on these things is like 2 years at best.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: ltcsprite on August 20, 2018, 05:24:56 PM
I cant imagine these go flying off the shelves at those prices. No games can take advantage of the new tech yet, founder edition cards are always hot loud pieces of junk, and the mining payback period on these things is like 2 years at best.

Agreed.

2080 is basically a slightly better 1080ti

2070 looks like a 1070

Nvidia hyped this like it was the next coming of Jesus, looks disappointing.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: SalvajeX on August 20, 2018, 05:56:20 PM
Crazy prices, I doubt many people will even consider ordering at these prices


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: soothaa on August 20, 2018, 06:30:03 PM
I cant imagine these go flying off the shelves at those prices. No games can take advantage of the new tech yet, founder edition cards are always hot loud pieces of junk, and the mining payback period on these things is like 2 years at best.
2080 is basically a slightly better 1080ti
Are you sure about that? Looks at those clocks. 2080ti is ~30-40% lower core clock (1350 vs 1950) with only ~20% more cuda cores (4352 vs 3584).

I think this is gonna be a huge flop unless those core clocks OC over 1700...

EDIT: I misread. Thought you were comparing the ti's directly. My breakdown is of 2080ti to 1080ti for the confused.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: swogerino on August 20, 2018, 06:30:14 PM
Today Nvidia officially unveiled the three cards, RTX 2070 for 599 dollars, RTX 2080 for 799 dollars and the RTX 2080 ti for 1199 dollars. Many people in instagram and other social are saying these cards are going to make the Pascal architecture obsolete.

What do you guys think ? Are these cards worth the money ?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: nsummy on August 20, 2018, 06:35:43 PM
Today Nvidia officially unveiled the three cards, RTX 2070 for 599 dollars, RTX 2080 for 799 dollars and the RTX 2080 ti for 1199 dollars. Many people in instagram and other social are saying these cards are going to make the Pascal architecture obsolete.

What do you guys think ? Are these cards worth the money ?

Your pricing is incorrect.  2080ti is $999, 2080 is $699 and 2070 is $499. Of course that is retail price and not founders edition price.  Obsolete is a pretty strong word considering there are many gamers who can't just drop $500+ on a video card.  I'm sure Pascal will hang around for awhile until prices drop and inventory is exhausted.  From a gaming point of view these new cards are probably great.  For mining though, who knows.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: KaydenC on August 20, 2018, 06:35:54 PM
Today Nvidia officially unveiled the three cards, RTX 2070 for 599 dollars, RTX 2080 for 799 dollars and the RTX 2080 ti for 1199 dollars. Many people in instagram and other social are saying these cards are going to make the Pascal architecture obsolete.

What do you guys think ? Are these cards worth the money ?

I'd say yes for gaming. Imagine seeing enemies off reflections around the corner in battlefield 5. Pay to win to the next level.

For mining, scoop up sub $130 470/570s from liquidating miners. The 2070 is decently priced, should do about 50mh/s eth. It will be a good buy if rendertoken comes online, but RIGHT NOW it's $130 polaris cards.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: BTC22 on August 21, 2018, 01:24:05 AM
Today Nvidia officially unveiled the three cards, RTX 2070 for 599 dollars, RTX 2080 for 799 dollars and the RTX 2080 ti for 1199 dollars. Many people in instagram and other social are saying these cards are going to make the Pascal architecture obsolete.

What do you guys think ? Are these cards worth the money ?

Your pricing is incorrect.  2080ti is $999, 2080 is $699 and 2070 is $499. Of course that is retail price and not founders edition price.  Obsolete is a pretty strong word considering there are many gamers who can't just drop $500+ on a video card.  I'm sure Pascal will hang around for awhile until prices drop and inventory is exhausted.  From a gaming point of view these new cards are probably great.  For mining though, who knows.

The higher prices are from EVGA.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: whitesites on August 21, 2018, 02:30:04 AM
Interesting, they have posted preorders on their website, but the warranty page has not been updated for the 2070, 2080, or 2080Ti
https://www.nvidia.com/object/manufacturer_warranty.html (https://www.nvidia.com/object/manufacturer_warranty.html)
I wonder if they are going to do a more restrictive warranty to deter miners.

For older GPU products the warranty was 3 years for the original purchaser only.
Meaning if you buy the card used off ebay, the warranty is void.

That was one of the reasons I always bought EVGA GPUS, as the 3 year warranty applied to both new and used GPUs.

They also mention that the warranty is void if the card is used in enterprise operations.  I wonder how they view mining?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: leowonderful on August 21, 2018, 02:45:15 AM
Interesting, they have posted preorders on their website, but the warranty page has not been updated for the 2070, 2080, or 2080Ti
https://www.nvidia.com/object/manufacturer_warranty.html (https://www.nvidia.com/object/manufacturer_warranty.html)
I wonder if they are going to do a more restrictive warranty to deter miners.

For older GPU products the warranty was 3 years for the original purchaser only.
Meaning if you buy the card used off ebay, the warranty is void.

That was one of the reasons I always bought EVGA GPUS, as the 3 year warranty applied to both new and used GPUs.

They also mention that the warranty is void if the card is used in enterprise operations.  I wonder how they view mining?
We don't even know the exact mining performance of these cards yet, and I'm willing to bet that it's more cost-effective to pick up cheaper Pascal and Polaris cards for mining over these. I can't see many people mining with these even at retail pricing when Pascal is still available for cheap at the moment anyways. They may very well just keep the warranty similar to what it was for Pascal.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Metroid on August 21, 2018, 03:08:20 AM
Thankgod nvidia did not reduce xx70 specifications any further, like the 1070, I'm really glad the memory still 256 bits.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: cudapop on August 21, 2018, 04:35:41 AM
Ditto on that. Also makes it possible AdoredTV's leak is wrong on the bus width of the 2060 as well.

If the 2060 retains the 192-bit bus with 14 Gbps GDDR6, we're looking at a 336 GB/s bandwidth theoretically giving ~41 MH/s on Ethash. If they sell the 2060 at ~$300 and it does around 75W when mining, it would compare favorably against a ~$1300 bitmain E3.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: stash2coin on August 21, 2018, 05:27:10 AM

If the 2060 retains the 192-bit bus with 14 Gbps GDDR6, we're looking at a 336 GB/s bandwidth theoretically giving ~41 MH/s on Ethash. If they sell the 2060 at ~$300 and it does around 75W when mining, it would compare favorably against a ~$1300 bitmain E3.

RTX2060 is rumored to have a 128bit memory bus, all the new RTX cards have a narrower memory bus compared to the older gen so why RTX2060 should be an exception .

Waiting for a new algo that will work only on RTX cards, RayCoin, GigaRays coin, RTXCoin.... :)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: cudapop on August 21, 2018, 05:40:53 AM
RTX 2080 Ti has a 352-bit bus, same as the GTX 1080 Ti. RTX 2080 has a 256-bit bus, same for GTX 1080. RTX 2070 and GTX 1070 have a 256-bit bus as well. None of the new RTX cards have a smaller bus than their GTX 10-series counterparts.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Bananana on August 21, 2018, 05:57:28 AM
Anybody plan to order it? Seems like the price is too high, based on my calculation needs about 4 years to break even :(.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Metroid on August 21, 2018, 06:10:22 AM
Anybody plan to order it? Seems like the price is too high, based on my calculation needs about 4 years to break even :(.

People will likely buy any for bragging rights cause most will never use them fully, ray tracing is a new thing, so expect 3 to 5 years to make a wide use for it, people buying a rtx 2080ti to play cs go hehe, is like when they buy an iphone for $1200 for whatsapp hehe, most of them have more money than sense and most want bragging rights to say to their friends, they have the best tech hehe, even though they will never use 5% of its peak performance, it's amazing to see how idiotic many places/people of the world have become.

I'm not buying any, will wait for 7nm this or next year from amd, although i always prefer nvidia for gaming, looks like i will side with amd on this one.

Also about prices, they increased $100 on everything and a plus another $200 on the rtx 2080ti, the gtx 1080ti launch price was $699, and now $999. They are only releasing the rtx 2080ti because 12nm is already old tech, they could not release it next year since amd will release a 7nm. The crypto mining boom spoiled nvidia and now they want money and they want fast before amd releases a 7nm.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: moooner on August 21, 2018, 07:10:56 AM
Interested in buying a 2070, my 380 did its time and I want to step up the game quite a bit. But not at 650€ that's for sure.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: adaseb on August 21, 2018, 07:50:11 AM
Nvidia is more or less like Apple and their GPUs are like the iPhone.

Every year a new model comes out with crazy high pricing and people think, nobody will buy because it's too similiar to last years model and overpriced and yet they almost always sell out.

So I am pretty sure they won't have issues moving these GPUs at these high prices.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: dragonmike on August 21, 2018, 09:24:08 AM
We'll have to wait for the reviews and benchmarks and see how they fare for mining... But at these prices they are highly unlikely to make any sense for miners.

Even if a 2080Ti is 50% faster than a 1080Ti you still only make less than $2 per day at current profitability levels. That's probably about two years to get your money back factoring in electricity costs...

The only candidate might be the 2070, but even that one's likely a stretch.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: konieczkocoin on August 21, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
Well.. i have around 5k$ to drop on mining rigs (these money r kind of a non-refundable loan) and i can drop them only on IT equipment.. im considering buying 2070 as i have to spend this money around october/sept. I can sell them a year from date of purchase. My idea is that this card wont drop in price significantly and if the AMD 7nm will gives better hashrate i can sell RTX to gamers and buy AMD's. Also i have free electricity up to 2,5kW
thoughts?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: ultiman2 on August 21, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
So for now now 2060? they probably start with the big gun and then push out lower version


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: 0xcosmos on August 21, 2018, 02:47:31 PM
in my country preorder prices are 23% more than US prices
so a big NO for the time being
hope the reference cards and other oem cards are priced economically


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Metroid on August 21, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
in my country preorder prices are 23% more than US prices
so a big NO for the time being
hope the reference cards and other oem cards are priced economically

probably your country has 23% import tax higher than the us, once the us increases import tax then prices for xx70 --> $399 will never exist anymore. Trade war is only bad to the people, there are countries with 100% or more import tax, most say is to protect local industries but the truth is, govs want to steal the bit you have.

these gpus are not for mining yet but they might be if somebody codes a ray tracing algo hehe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Privatoria on August 21, 2018, 02:57:02 PM
As I know these new cards will be not so big step for mining. New cardis, for instance RTX 2070 will have only 2304 Cores instead of 1920 Cores for GTX 1070 cards. That’s why they will give only +20% of profit.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Metroid on August 21, 2018, 03:09:11 PM
+20% of profit.

profit? i say lossfit hehe, at these prices anybody thinking about buying these gpus for mining needs to recheck sanity levels, no wonder how idiotic the world has become, trolls using celeron cpu to mine, integrated graphics, buying ryzen 2990 32 cores to mine, that is just an example on how to become stupid.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: KaydenC on August 21, 2018, 04:07:23 PM
As I know these new cards will be not so big step for mining. New cardis, for instance RTX 2070 will have only 2304 Cores instead of 1920 Cores for GTX 1070 cards. That’s why they will give only +20% of profit.

The memory bandwidth is 448gb/s, compared to 484gb/s for 1080ti. And 1080ti easily do 53mh/s eth. It might be +20% in core intensive algos, but it's much more in memory bound algos if it's well optimized.

Think I will wait for black friday. Snap up $420-$430 Rtx 2070s. It's probably gonna be released mid oct, so it's just 1 extra month to wait.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: chaoprokia on August 21, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
buy the cards for gaming. for mining it will take along way to go unless price decide to change in short term.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: MinedTangerine on August 21, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
Anybody plan to order it? Seems like the price is too high, based on my calculation needs about 4 years to break even :(.

People will likely buy any for bragging rights cause most will never use them fully, ray tracing is a new thing, ...

Ray tracing is a very old thing. I remember ray tracing images from the first VGA cards that came out. Its just the on card specific support thats new.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: philipma1957 on August 21, 2018, 09:43:13 PM
closed my thread


as this was first thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4930823.msg44427891#msg44427891


I ordered this one for my thread ripper build

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Graphics-08G-P4-2182-KR/dp/B07GHVWMBS/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1534798381&sr=8-20&keywords=rtx%2B2080&th=1


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Elder III on August 21, 2018, 10:13:32 PM
BitsBeTrippin' did a very good video about the potential hashrates of the RTX 2000 series based on what information we know at this point.  It's not a guarantee of course, but I think his estimates are probably reasonably close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnCEm2J9D9s

 


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: philipma1957 on August 21, 2018, 10:35:22 PM
BitsBeTrippin' did a very good video about the potential hashrates of the RTX 2000 series based on what information we know at this point.  It's not a guarantee of course, but I think his estimates are probably reasonably close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnCEm2J9D9s

 

I will look at it after dinner thank you.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Tszunami98 on August 21, 2018, 11:02:39 PM
I think there will still be a market for these type of boards, among gamers of course. Cryptomining wise i doubt they will sell even 1.
The market is already flooded with cheap second hand boards + the remainin unsold boards from the last edition.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Metroid on August 22, 2018, 12:36:08 AM
Quote from: techpowerup
NVIDIA GeForce RTX Series Prices Up To 71% Higher Than Previous Gen

NVIDIA revealed the SEP prices of its GeForce RTX 20-series, and it's a bloodbath in the absence of competition from AMD. The SEP price is the lowest price you'll be able to find a custom-design card at. NVIDIA is pricing its reference design cards, dubbed "Founders Edition," at a premium of 10-15 percent. These cards don't just have a better (looking) cooler, but also slightly higher clock speeds.

The GeForce RTX 2070 is where the lineup begins, for now. This card has an SEP pricing of USD $499. Its Founders Edition variant is priced at $599, or a staggering 20% premium. You'll recall that the previous-generation GTX 1070 launched at $379, with its Founders Edition at $449. The GeForce RTX 2080, which is the posterboy of this series, starts at $699, with its Founders Edition card at $799. The GTX 1080 launched at $599, with $699 for the Founders Edition. Leading the pack is the RTX 2080 Ti, launched at $999, with its Founders Edition variant at $1,199. The GTX 1080 Ti launched at $699, for the Founders Edition no less.


https://tpucdn.com/img/xFK4vciHBgv0AjT3_thm.jpg

https://www.techpowerup.com/246925/nvidia-geforce-rtx-series-prices-up-to-71-higher-than-previous-gen

Go buy them, mine at loss and make nvidia proud hehe and next generation, expect nvidia to almost charge another 100% on top hehe, $1199 for rtx 2080ti, $1999 for rtx 3080ti hehe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: spacedis on August 22, 2018, 04:13:09 AM
I am excited about gaming but I don't think this will be a huge jump for the mining community. I can't wait to see how they actually work and what kinda power people can get out of them.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: jmigdlc99 on August 22, 2018, 04:55:25 AM
We'll have to wait for the reviews and benchmarks and see how they fare for mining... But at these prices they are highly unlikely to make any sense for miners.

Even if a 2080Ti is 50% faster than a 1080Ti you still only make less than $2 per day at current profitability levels. That's probably about two years to get your money back factoring in electricity costs...

The only candidate might be the 2070, but even that one's likely a stretch.

I am loving your posts dragonmike. Always sensible and backed by numbers instead of just pure opinion. Given those figure, it indeed doesn't make much sense to join the bandwagon on these GPUs whether you are going to use them for mining or gaming.

I'd wait a couple of months till their value goes down or simply pick up 10 series GPUs at heavily discounted prices.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: puwaha on August 22, 2018, 05:03:40 AM
I think nvidia priced the cards to keep miners away for a while.  They didn't want miners scooping them up in bulk before gamers had a chance to get their hands on them.  If nothing else, it should keep the value of the 1000 series a little higher on the secondary market before nvidia starts dropping prices before Christmas.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: adaseb on August 22, 2018, 06:53:54 AM
I think nvidia priced the cards to keep miners away for a while.  They didn't want miners scooping them up in bulk before gamers had a chance to get their hands on them.  If nothing else, it should keep the value of the 1000 series a little higher on the secondary market before nvidia starts dropping prices before Christmas.

I am pretty sure they main purpose of pricing it so high is not to keep it away from miners. If they price it way too high then pretty much no gamers will buy and gamers will just buy some 2nd hand (retired mining GPUs) from eBay and SLI them together and will get a much better speed than with the flagship model. Basically 2 of the 1080ti will probably outperform the single 2080ti and will probably cost less if bought used.

Right now mining is not profitable and even if the GPUs were very cheap, miners wouldn't buy them. Everybody right now is jumping ship.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: DrG on August 22, 2018, 08:37:50 AM
Haha what a sad year for nVidia. Well, here's hoping I don't get gouged too much on a mobile GPU - I've been sitting on my almost 5 year old gaming laptop and had to really control myself and not buy a laptop with a GTX 1060 or 1070. If nVidia doesn't behave even with mobile RTX pricing I'm going to jump to a laptop with Vega when 7nm mobile comes out next year.

In the mean time I've been having LAN parties at my house and each of my 6 machines has SLI or crossfire high end cards stolen from my mining rigs  :o

Who knew these video cards could be used to play games!?!  ;D


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: gameboy366 on August 22, 2018, 04:15:20 PM
I think nvidia priced the cards to keep miners away for a while.  They didn't want miners scooping them up in bulk before gamers had a chance to get their hands on them.  If nothing else, it should keep the value of the 1000 series a little higher on the secondary market before nvidia starts dropping prices before Christmas.

I am pretty sure they main purpose of pricing it so high is not to keep it away from miners. If they price it way too high then pretty much no gamers will buy and gamers will just buy some 2nd hand (retired mining GPUs) from eBay and SLI them together and will get a much better speed than with the flagship model. Basically 2 of the 1080ti will probably outperform the single 2080ti and will probably cost less if bought used.

Right now mining is not profitable and even if the GPUs were very cheap, miners wouldn't buy them. Everybody right now is jumping ship.
That doesn't make sense. If they kept the price low then miners would have bought the gpus and prices would have inflated to reach current msrp, so it would still be same for gamers. But you are saying even if prices were low miner will not buy them...you are contradicting yourself.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Frankie001 on August 22, 2018, 10:21:30 PM
this why i envy you guys over the pond, it's even more expensive here in south africa, current zar to $ is R14.17 - $1 at those rates the 2080Ti costs $1,647.98 as per this link https://www.evetech.co.za/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-south-africa/x/314.aspx  compered to $1,199 (as per op 1st post) it's a $448.98 difference but that's the price if you want the latest and greatest lol.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: ARENA-DEV on August 22, 2018, 10:31:10 PM
Oh....wow those are expensive, 1200 for the 2080 Ti!?!?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: martyroz on August 22, 2018, 11:26:02 PM
this why i envy you guys over the pond, it's even more expensive here in south africa, current zar to $ is R14.17 - $1 at those rates the 2080Ti costs $1,647.98 as per this link https://www.evetech.co.za/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-south-africa/x/314.aspx  compered to $1,199 (as per op 1st post) it's a $448.98 difference but that's the price if you want the latest and greatest lol.

Yeah it's not fun to see these local round numbers.

Nvidia Australia website pre-order: $1,899 AUD
Google AUD to USD converter: $1,395.40


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Metroid on August 23, 2018, 12:07:39 AM
this why i envy you guys over the pond, it's even more expensive here in south africa, current zar to $ is R14.17 - $1 at those rates the 2080Ti costs $1,647.98 as per this link https://www.evetech.co.za/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-south-africa/x/314.aspx  compered to $1,199 (as per op 1st post) it's a $448.98 difference but that's the price if you want the latest and greatest lol.

soon i guess, you will not need to envy them at all regarding electronics price, the way things are going, soon trump will increase import tax from 5% to 25% - 50% and then US people will understand how painful really is when your are screwed by your own government hehe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: martyroz on August 23, 2018, 02:26:21 AM
Does anyone in USA want to act as a middle man and line up a 2080ti AIB for me?

I pay with newegg and ship to your address
You forward to my address
I pay you in crypto for postage + profits

Edit: oh, I just noticed everything is out of stock now.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: KaydenC on August 23, 2018, 04:18:14 AM
My supplier quote $15000 HKD or $1923 USD for 2080ti  :o
Last year they sold me $640 1080tis with free Destiny 2.

Good thing amazon or newegg + freight forwarder still works.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Metroid on August 23, 2018, 04:54:32 AM
My supplier quote $15000 HKD or $1923 USD for 2080ti  :o
Last year they sold me $640 1080tis with free Destiny 2.

Good thing amazon or newegg + freight forwarder still works.

nvidia need to get their roi on r&d before amd's 7nm comes, so reason these gpus are so much expensive, nvidia want fast money so they can use it on 7nm r&d, with the gtx 1xxx series nvidia had 3 years to get their r&d back, with their rtx 2xxx, nvidia have a maximum of 12 months to get their r&d roi back, drastic times requires drastic measures hehe

lol, even nvidia get a shorter roi time, with these prices, they are targeting 12 months, crypto miners roi target right now for most is 5 years hehe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: dragonmike on August 23, 2018, 01:27:49 PM
If rumours are to be believed, AMD would reveal/release their 7nm lineup before the end of the year.

Could this be the first time in years that Team Red takes over the top spot in terms of raw GPU power?


One thing's for sure: no 20xx GPUs for me.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: melpheos on August 23, 2018, 02:16:12 PM
Does anyone in USA want to act as a middle man and line up a 2080ti AIB for me?

I pay with newegg and ship to your address
You forward to my address
I pay you in crypto for postage + profits

Edit: oh, I just noticed everything is out of stock now.
No need for some unsafe and unknown middleman : usgobuy.com
They will generate a pseudo address to their shipping location in the US and you select the shipping service you want. They will ship it back to you

If rumours are to be believed, AMD would reveal/release their 7nm lineup before the end of the year.

Could this be the first time in years that Team Red takes over the top spot in terms of raw GPU power?


One thing's for sure: no 20xx GPUs for me.

Indeed, even if AMD do not released their new lineup this year, the pricing of the 20xx series is just out of wack even for a gamer perspective.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Marvell2 on August 23, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
Does anyone in USA want to act as a middle man and line up a 2080ti AIB for me?

I pay with newegg and ship to your address
You forward to my address
I pay you in crypto for postage + profits

Edit: oh, I just noticed everything is out of stock now.
No need for some unsafe and unknown middleman : usgobuy.com
They will generate a pseudo address to their shipping location in the US and you select the shipping service you want. They will ship it back to you

If rumours are to be believed, AMD would reveal/release their 7nm lineup before the end of the year.

Could this be the first time in years that Team Red takes over the top spot in terms of raw GPU power?


One thing's for sure: no 20xx GPUs for me.

Indeed, even if AMD do not released their new lineup this year, the pricing of the 20xx series is just out of wack even for a gamer perspective.
Amds tech is so blase next to nvidia though... deep learning chips? built in Ai
Amds 7nm would have to be something special in terms of raw power


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: leowonderful on August 23, 2018, 04:25:20 PM
If you're using a reshipping service like UsGoBuy or Reship.com, etc, be prepared to go through identification if needed and you'll be fine. Reshippers usually do this for higher-value orders from bigger retailers to prevent reshipping fraud, and it can be a bit of a hassle if you're not prepared for it.

As for what's cheapest and works best, I have found MyUS and Shipito have been the best. Still costs a bit to ship to a few countries, but you'll generally still save over buying in your own country if you happen to have inflated prices.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: Shatterlean22 on August 23, 2018, 07:13:51 PM
Only God knows how the new nvidia 20 series will perform in mining crypto .I would like to see some benchmarks


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: martyroz on August 24, 2018, 02:58:45 AM
I wonder when they will release liquid cooled cards for 2000 series... hanging out ;)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: giagge on August 27, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
NDA, expires September 14th, are VERY performing game cards, and that RTX engine thinks if it can be used for MoneroRTX  ;D . I do not like fpga and the asic

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/99onhf/a_supercomputer_ai_will_power_nvidia_rtx_gpus/

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Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: giagge on August 28, 2018, 03:17:59 PM
"NVLink is also available on gaming GPUs - specifically on the GeForce RTX 2080 and GeForce RTX 2080 Ti. Connecting two cards with NVLink requires a special NVLink connector, which is sold separately."
"Traditionally when rendering on multiple graphics cards, V-Ray GPU duplicates the data in the memory of each GPU, but with NVLink the VRAM can be pooled. For example, if we have two GPUs with 11GB of VRAM each and connected with NVLink, V-Ray GPU can use that to render scenes that take up to 22 GB. This is completely transparent to the user — V-Ray GPU automatically detects and uses NVLink when available."

https://www.chaosgroup.com/blog/what-does-the-new-nvidia-rtx-hardware-mean-for-ray-tracing-gpu-rendering-v-ray

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Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: adefirman98 on August 28, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
see the specifications offered I am very interested, but the price its very crazy, oh my god. in Indonesia GEFORCE RTX 2080 Ti the price reaches 30.000.000 Rupiah,  ;D
https://www.bukalapak.com/p/komputer/hardware/vga/m5jvo1-jual-vga-gaming-msi-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-gaming-x-trio


Title: Re: New NVIDIA 20 series cards available for pre-order, shipping 9/20/18
Post by: giagge on August 31, 2018, 06:26:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJLzlmLHORY



https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comm...ssibly_leaked/
https://hardforum.com/threads/nvidia...e-out.1967017/

Its possible fake .