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Title: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: SlidingHorn on February 28, 2014, 10:39:03 PM
So I'm sure this is covered, but I'm just not finding it.

I gave a user negative trust for attempting to send another user an infected file.  There are screenshots etc. showing proof that they did this.

As retribution, I assume, this user came back & tagged me with negative trust and said that I stole BTC in the form.  I've never had dealings w/ them, and I want this removed, as I have done nothing wrong, and there is absolutely no good reason for me to have a negative trust rating.

What can I do here?  Am I simply screwed?


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: KWH on February 28, 2014, 10:45:51 PM
So I'm sure this is covered, but I'm just not finding it.

I gave a user negative trust for attempting to send another user an infected file.  There are screenshots etc. showing proof that they did this.

As retribution, I assume, this user came back & tagged me with negative trust and said that I stole BTC in the form.  I've never had dealings w/ them, and I want this removed, as I have done nothing wrong, and there is absolutely no good reason for me to have a negative trust rating.

What can I do here?  Am I simply screwed?

Nothing. When one reads your Trust, they should evaluate the source of any negatives. I have a few but they really mean nothing in the scheme of things. Spite Trust will happen.

I see this when I look at your Trust:
Trust:    0: -0 / +0(0)

Only when I click on Untrusted feedback do I see the negative.


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: SlidingHorn on February 28, 2014, 10:50:01 PM
So I'm sure this is covered, but I'm just not finding it.

I gave a user negative trust for attempting to send another user an infected file.  There are screenshots etc. showing proof that they did this.

As retribution, I assume, this user came back & tagged me with negative trust and said that I stole BTC in the form.  I've never had dealings w/ them, and I want this removed, as I have done nothing wrong, and there is absolutely no good reason for me to have a negative trust rating.

What can I do here?  Am I simply screwed?

Nothing. When one reads your Trust, they should evaluate the source of any negatives. I have a few but they really mean nothing in the scheme of things. Spite Trust will happen.

I see this when I look at your Trust:
Trust:    0: -0 / +0(0)

Only when I click on Untrusted feedback do I see the negative.

Well that's comforting....I'm pretty sure this guy is never going to be in anyone important's trust circle.

Thanks :)


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: Sirrah on February 28, 2014, 10:52:53 PM
As long as it doesn't affect your overall trust rating you shouldn't be too concerned given the fact that most people will have a look as to the origin of your negative trust and see the issue. You won't be able to get the trust removed, only the person who have you the trust can remove it (and for obvious partiality issues). So yeah, sorry about that, but don't be too discouraged, negative trusts really are unimportant so long as nobody has them in their trust network.


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: SlidingHorn on February 28, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
As long as it doesn't affect your overall trust rating you shouldn't be too concerned given the fact that most people will have a look as to the origin of your negative trust and see the issue. You won't be able to get the trust removed, only the person who have you the trust can remove it (and for obvious partiality issues). So yeah, sorry about that, but don't be too discouraged, negative trusts really are unimportant so long as nobody has them in their trust network.

That's what I figured.  It's just frustrating because I always try to do the right thing, and I'm always trying to help out here by pointing out obvious scams, reporting posts that need reported (spam, blatant rule violations, etc), and I would hope that people would see that instead of some random jerk who's upset I called him out on his scam


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: Sirrah on March 01, 2014, 12:01:27 AM
That's the best you can do really. If you want to eradicate spam and scams you have to be willing to take the retribution trust ratings when you give then a neg. I suppose it ore with the job really. Keep up the effort though, eventually someone will recognise your effort of the default trust network and give you a positive rep which most people will see to more than balance your negs.


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: Vod on March 01, 2014, 12:34:18 AM
That's the best you can do really. If you want to eradicate spam and scams you have to be willing to take the retribution trust ratings when you give then a neg. I suppose it ore with the job really. Keep up the effort though, eventually someone will recognise your effort of the default trust network and give you a positive rep which most people will see to more than balance your negs.

I try to call out scammers.  Take at a look at the negative trust on my account!   ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: SlidingHorn on March 01, 2014, 12:43:33 AM
That's the best you can do really. If you want to eradicate spam and scams you have to be willing to take the retribution trust ratings when you give then a neg. I suppose it ore with the job really. Keep up the effort though, eventually someone will recognise your effort of the default trust network and give you a positive rep which most people will see to more than balance your negs.

I try to call out scammers.  Take at a look at the negative trust on my account!   ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

Wow...talk about mental instability.  Guess that's what we get..


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: hilariousandco on March 01, 2014, 01:23:01 AM
That's the best you can do really. If you want to eradicate spam and scams you have to be willing to take the retribution trust ratings when you give then a neg. I suppose it ore with the job really. Keep up the effort though, eventually someone will recognise your effort of the default trust network and give you a positive rep which most people will see to more than balance your negs.

I try to call out scammers.  Take at a look at the negative trust on my account!   ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747

Feedback doesn't really matter if it's from plebs who aren't on the trusted list, especially when there's no reference thread to back up their outlandish and (usually) false claims.


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: Chemistry1988 on March 01, 2014, 10:28:09 AM
Unless you are trusted by some well-trusted members, your trust feedback has almost no impact lol.


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: Lethn on March 01, 2014, 03:02:56 PM
It won't matter, yes, this kind of thing happens all the time, most intelligent people are going to look at the user, look at all the evidence laid out against them and just ignore them, I wouldn't worry too much about it, the fact that someone is trying to attack you just proves your evidence against them.


Title: Re: Trust System Abuse?
Post by: apsvinet on March 04, 2014, 05:43:41 PM
So I'm sure this is covered, but I'm just not finding it.

I gave a user negative trust for attempting to send another user an infected file.  There are screenshots etc. showing proof that they did this.

As retribution, I assume, this user came back & tagged me with negative trust and said that I stole BTC in the form.  I've never had dealings w/ them, and I want this removed, as I have done nothing wrong, and there is absolutely no good reason for me to have a negative trust rating.

What can I do here?  Am I simply screwed?
As other guy said your minus trust doesn't show up to us, however - the bad part about that is that his trust rating won't show up either. The system is a bit flawed imo, but that said I can't think of a better way to do it.