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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Alair on August 20, 2018, 06:35:39 PM



Title: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: Alair on August 20, 2018, 06:35:39 PM
About 3 month ago IDAP declared bounty campaign conditions:
Bounty pool:
Exclusive Support - 4 %
Signature - 22 %
Translation - 16 %
Creative Contest - 18 %
Reddit - 4 %
YouTube - 6 %
Telegram - 2 %
Facebook - 14 %
Twitter - 14 %

But now they changed conditions:

Twitter Campaign - 22 %
Facebook Campaign -  22 %
Telegram Campaign - 02 %
Youtube Campaign - 08 %
Reddit Campaign - 03 %
Creative Contest - 12 %
Translation  Campaign - 16 %
Signature Campaign - 5 %
Exclusive Support Campaign  - 10 %

I am participant of Signature Campaign and I think IDAP cheating on me.

How can I give negative trust to bounty manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59767 ? Please who from list DT-1, DT-2 give negative trust to this bounty manager from my name.


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: SFR10 on August 21, 2018, 06:57:12 AM
I am participant of Signature Campaign and I think IDAP cheating on me.
I did check the "bounty thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456375.0)" and also looked for "its previous cached version (https://archive.fo/7tfQz)".
-It appears you'll be earning the exact same stakes (similar to what it was prior to the percentage changes):

Quote from: Initially (prior to the change) https://archive.fo/7tfQz#selection-1813.0-1827.40
Payment: 22% of Total Bounty Pool Will be devoted to Signature Campaign Participants.
Payment will be based on weekly stakes:
 
Jr Member                   : 7 stakes / Week
Member                     : 15 stakes / Week
Full Member               : 30 stakes / Week
Sr Member                 : 50 stakes / Week
Hero and Legendary    : 80 stakes / Week

Quote from: Present (after the change) https://archive.fo/pDHUl#selection-1755.0-1769.40
Payment: 5% of Total Bounty Pool Will be devoted to Signature Campaign Participants.
Payment will be based on weekly stakes:
 
Jr Member                   : 7 stakes / Week
Member                     : 15 stakes / Week
Full Member               : 30 stakes / Week
Sr Member                 : 50 stakes / Week
Hero and Legendary    : 80 stakes / Week

You missed reading this part:

Disclamer

ICO reserves the right to adjust the reward amount, depending on number of applicants in each of the bounty campaigns. When bounty ends, you will have 7 days for any questions/complaints.

Archived version (prior to the change) (https://archive.fo/7tfQz#selection-2947.0-2953.187)


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: peropiposis on August 21, 2018, 12:09:24 PM
I think that is big difference if you earn 5 tokens and if you earn 22 tokens. After 2 month participating in this Signature Campaign I disappointed, I also think IDAP cheating on me.


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: lyfecoin on August 21, 2018, 12:40:36 PM
I think that is big difference if you earn 5 tokens and if you earn 22 tokens. After 2 month participating in this Signature Campaign I disappointed, I also think IDAP cheating on me.
May be they have over estimated the the number of users who will be joined the signature campaign and alloted more percentage of bounty to signature campaign or they want to restrict the signature campaign to less slots.For example if they thought initially of allowing 200 member for the signature campaign for 20% of bounty and now they restrict it to 50 members 5% of bounty,it should not make much difference in the final earnings


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: pofigist on August 21, 2018, 03:24:11 PM
I remember similar situation happened one year ago, I remind Lauda's opinion:

you do not have that right if it affects people who have already accepted the *contract* under different terms. You can change it for new participants, but not for the existing ones without essentially scamming them.
reference to original post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2140832.msg21415292#msg21415292


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: Goodvin on August 21, 2018, 05:10:46 PM
How can you change the conditions so strongly. Let the bounty manager count the number of people who participate in the signatura campaign. It's so unfair that I'm just outraged. Who else can I write that would leave the conditions on which I and many other baunty-hunters participate in the signatura campaign.


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 21, 2018, 05:16:10 PM
Who else can I write that would leave the conditions on which I and many other baunty-hunters participate in the signatura campaign.
Dude, you're a spammer.  Maybe you could complain to the spammers' union or something.

There isn't a whole lot any of you can do about this, since these ICOs are essentially unregulated.  Making threads like this is about all anyone can do, and it's not going to be very effective.  Why?  Because these bounties draw the most ignorant and desperate members of the crypto community, and even if some people decide not to take a chance, there will be plenty of people who need money badly enough such that they'll try it--and they're the ones who'll end up getting scammed.  And when the scam bounty ends, there'll be another one popping up to take its place.

Tl;dr:  You risk wasting your time with ANY of these bounties.  They can do whatever the hell they want with impunity.


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: ZagZig on August 22, 2018, 05:13:21 PM
I think that is big difference if you earn 5 tokens and if you earn 22 tokens. After 2 month participating in this Signature Campaign I disappointed, I also think IDAP cheating on me.
I agree, when I join to IDAP Signature Campaign I've had conditions that satisfyed me, but I would not join in Signature Campaign whith the new conditions.
What now to do to me, if I leave campaign I loose all stakes, but I do not wish continue participate in Signature Campaign whith the new conditions?


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 22, 2018, 05:15:47 PM
What now to do to me, if I leave campaign I loose all stakes, but I do not wish continue participate in Signature Campaign whith the new conditions?
It's your choice, and there isn't much you can do about it.  Always keep in mind that there's no recourse if campaigns change their terms mid-stream, or even if they decide to kick you out for apparently no reason.  The only thing you can do is post in Scam Accusations, and that isn't even very effective.  As soon as one bounty hunter leaves, there will be dozens to take his place. 


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: Parodium on August 22, 2018, 06:38:11 PM
The fact is, you joined the bounty knowing that have absolute control over the stakes, rewards, and distribution of these. People should expect 90% of bounties to be extended or modified as the conditions are not what many people believe they will be. Just be happy you're getting paid anything for your horrendous posts.


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: Syndrome on August 23, 2018, 06:16:27 PM
How can you change the conditions so strongly. Let the bounty manager count the number of people who participate in the signatura campaign. It's so unfair that I'm just outraged. Who else can I write that would leave the conditions on which I and many other baunty-hunters participate in the signatura campaign.

Exactly. It's one thing when you change for those who have entered another business you are already changing at the end. And this cheating and such things the community must punish otherwise it will become mainstream. Only honesty and trust are driven by the market and if it is lost then everything will collapse.


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: Baofeng on August 23, 2018, 07:15:13 PM
Did the participants read the Disclaimer portion? So how come they are all complaining that they have been cheated? I assumed that everyone joining a bounty should be aware that anything can change because it really depends if the project became a success or not. And as @Parodium have said, you should be happy that you are getting rewards for your (dreadful) work.  ;D


Title: Re: IDAP cheating(scam) in bounty campaigns
Post by: minatour on August 28, 2018, 06:11:13 PM
only because of a change in an allocation, you say if this project is a scam :D
don't blame anyone here because this is all your fault for not reading the rules in the bounty correctly "Disclaimer" don't regret anything that has been done because it has become your decision to join so enjoy it until you get a payment :)