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Title: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: AlexTF.CCN on August 22, 2018, 11:19:14 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: Melchizedek1 on August 22, 2018, 11:23:45 AM
Its a good thing to know that innovations are making headlines that show that we techs can produce platforms that remove transactions from the conventional online internet access gateway. the speed may be slow now, but with time, the activity will be perfected and the time frame shortened. Its all good.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: AlexTF.CCN on August 22, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
Its a good thing to know that innovations are making headlines that show that we techs can produce platforms that remove transactions from the conventional online internet access gateway. the speed may be slow now, but with time, the activity will be perfected and the time frame shortened. Its all good.

Let's hope so!


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: time2.coffee on August 23, 2018, 04:59:42 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/
It is a useful tool for Bitcoin transactions, but seems there is no implementation for popular messengers like Telegram, since SMS is a little deprecated (and more expensive) way.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: jseverson on August 23, 2018, 05:53:10 AM
So you basically text the details of your transaction to a central service (which you signed up for) and they proceed to send out that transaction for you? So they're essentially offering a wallet service you could control by SMS? I'd say it's not exactly groundbreaking innovation, but assuming security concerns are addressed, this might actually help drive adoption, especially in impoverished countries. I know I'd love to try it out.

Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

Where did you get this figure? Are you referring to the SMS service or the Bitcoin network in general?


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: Herlina on August 23, 2018, 06:22:17 AM
Transactions via SMS look like an outdated feature for us, but this feature can be a bridge to get adoption from Generation X, in my country most of Generation X is still actively using SMS feature for their transactions, maybe with this feature we can get their adoption


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: dothebeats on August 23, 2018, 06:25:06 AM
This isn't revolutionary though in a way, it can somewhat be useful given that there are still constraints regarding internet on extremely poor countries. One fine example of money transfer services manifesting through SMS is M-pesa. Bitcoin can follow suit through the use of the said feature without a company patenting or copyrighting it and it could be a feature on stand-alone clients, especially mobile ones which people can use on the go.

I'd be more impressed if this feature goes on to the main bitcoin client embedded within the code, though I think we're far from getting there.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: charlotte04 on August 23, 2018, 06:29:04 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/

They are really not want to be left out so they have already joined and adapted it while still it's in a neutral mode for people who doesn't know anything about in cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: pickledmuffin on August 23, 2018, 06:33:02 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/

SMS is something everyone understands which is good. However banks are offering instant transaction times in my country, so the 2-3 hours definately needs to be reduced to ensure a point of difference, and the cost of transacting.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: davis196 on August 23, 2018, 06:55:01 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/

SMS is something everyone understands which is good. However banks are offering instant transaction times in my country, so the 2-3 hours definately needs to be reduced to ensure a point of difference, and the cost of transacting.

BofA implemetented the SAME thing ,but another company is getting patent?This does not make any sense.The technology has to be competely new and ground breaking,in order to be patented.Crypto payments via SMS had been used before,so they are not a new innovation,hence that company doesn't deserve a patent.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: Wendigo on August 23, 2018, 07:44:43 AM
Hmmm what if someone were to steal my phone or hijack my sim card? Could they just send all the Bitcoin to themselves via SMS if I have activated that service on my phone? If there is no protection set in place this 'novelty' could potentially open a lot of mobile Bitcoin holders up for attack by crypto thieves. I am a little bit wary, guys. Just saying.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: Colan Zolo on August 23, 2018, 08:26:55 AM
Hmmm what if someone were to steal my phone or hijack my sim card? Could they just send all the Bitcoin to themselves via SMS if I have activated that service on my phone? If there is no protection set in place this 'novelty' could potentially open a lot of mobile Bitcoin holders up for attack by crypto thieves. I am a little bit wary, guys. Just saying.

A very heavy risk if it happens. And bankrupt us.
This SMS method is quite risky, so you have to be more careful to save this important item. Many hackers will run rampant like this.
Actually, the company is very extraordinary by patenting bitcoin as a transaction tool and certainly many will target it.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: chidrawarster on August 23, 2018, 08:36:03 AM
Its still a good news fro all of us .But i feel SMS is still the expensive of its kind and can be replaced with other modes of internet related apps which would even make the features even more cheaper.Or they can also tie up with free internet messengers which would also act like a bridge and make the transaction even more faster in the future.I hope so when they do this they will add more value and some more technology will enhance the same.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: boksoon on August 23, 2018, 08:41:32 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/



Bitcoin is built for the people in fact until now no one would  identify whose real Mr. Nakamoto name. Bitcoin is spread out to the purpose of become primary use  all over the world but  regarding to question that Company just patented bitcoin transaction I think this is not true no any person can owned the private creation except you create your own.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: avikz on August 23, 2018, 09:02:12 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/

I don't know how you are saying that the transaction speed is 2-3 hours now?? That's a long gone past and with the adoption of segwit, it has come down to 5-10 minutes long back. Check your facts before saying this!!

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

The above link shows the number of unconfirmed transactions and currently while I type this reply, it is showing 2131 transactions are unconfirmed! That's well within the limit and should not take more that 5-15 minutes to get 3 confirmations from the network. Also the transactions fees are now in cents. I often make transactions valued $300-$400 and pay the fees in cents. 


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: CryptoGamblingSites on August 23, 2018, 09:22:06 AM
Hey OP,

You could have mentioned its bitmain and they're trying to have a monopoly on mining and have a vague IPO that may or may not die shortly.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2018/08/23/bernstein-crypto-miner-bitmain-may-be-losing-its-edge/

Quote
Bitmain has likely been acquiring large amounts of Bitcoin Cash, posing a “major risk” as the Bitcoin offshoot’s value declines, Li said. Bitcoin Cash has tumbled by about 68% since the first week of May, versus a 30% drop in Bitcoin, according to Bloomberg composite pricing.

Nobody cares about their stupid patent and companies trying to create monopolies in bitcoin deserve to go under like bitmain will.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: AlexTF.CCN on August 23, 2018, 09:38:51 AM
Talk about mainstream adoption, it reminds me of when BofA implemented the same thing. Good that they're working on making it more accessible to people, still have to go through the annoying 2-3 hours transaction speed though -.-

https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-bitmain-collects-18-billion-in-ipo-bitcoin-transactions-by-sms-and-more-19023/

I don't know how you are saying that the transaction speed is 2-3 hours now?? That's a long gone past and with the adoption of segwit, it has come down to 5-10 minutes long back. Check your facts before saying this!!

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

The above link shows the number of unconfirmed transactions and currently while I type this reply, it is showing 2131 transactions are unconfirmed! That's well within the limit and should not take more that 5-15 minutes to get 3 confirmations from the network. Also the transactions fees are now in cents. I often make transactions valued $300-$400 and pay the fees in cents. 


Good for you bro, I use KeepKey and it takes 2-3 hours to confirm so that's my own personal experience :)


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: bitfocus on August 23, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
Nice! this will help people using bitcoin in Cell Coverage without internet, just with SMS - really a very good step for Bitcoin!


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: Mofazzal840 on August 23, 2018, 10:20:44 AM
It is good. this will help people using bitcoin in Cell Coverage without internet, just with SMS - really a very good step for Bitcoin in the world. I am greatful for this.
 


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: PIMPdev on August 23, 2018, 10:45:39 AM
I'm not sure that this can become a new Revolution, but it is also the positive news in our bank of positive news about bitcoin when the last drop will be dropped, it will spoil out.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: WhalerMoon on August 24, 2018, 03:46:19 AM
On the surface this seems ridiculous and shockingly broad. And without looking into the particulars of it, sure this patent will not hold up to scrutiny. I would actually bet money on this. I wonder if there is a place where I can do that; make bets on the validity of patents.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: barsharkol12 on August 24, 2018, 04:10:34 AM
technology nowadays made life easy. for me using btc via sms is very convenient to those people who are not using internet.but this sms method is a little bit risky.there are a lot of cases which sms can easily be track and we are talking about here a lot of money and loosing is not good.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: StephKram on August 24, 2018, 04:39:25 AM
Each day the technology is becoming more and more powerful.  I think we are only a few years away form having the technology to take this mainstream.  This SMS breakthrough is going to be huge when it goes into action. 


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: aoluain on August 24, 2018, 06:48:30 AM
Hey OP,

You could have mentioned its bitmain and they're trying to have a monopoly on mining and have a vague IPO that may or may not die shortly.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2018/08/23/bernstein-crypto-miner-bitmain-may-be-losing-its-edge/

Quote
Bitmain has likely been acquiring large amounts of Bitcoin Cash, posing a “major risk” as the Bitcoin offshoot’s value declines, Li said. Bitcoin Cash has tumbled by about 68% since the first week of May, versus a 30% drop in Bitcoin, according to Bloomberg composite pricing.

Nobody cares about their stupid patent and companies trying to create monopolies in bitcoin deserve to go under like bitmain will.

Yes but on the other hand if it helps others to use bitcoin without having to possibly use
A computer or an internet connection it would be positive, pity its pushed by bitmain.

Transactions via SMS look like an outdated feature for us, but this feature can be a bridge to get adoption from Generation X, in my country most of Generation X is still actively using SMS feature for their transactions, maybe with this feature we can get their adoption
About Generation X, yes I would agree that the older generation are still predominantly
Using SMS but are more likely to have a PC and Internet access and a smartphone.

Hmm, its a strange one and a bit archaic with a question over security i think.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: jseverson on August 24, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
A computer or an internet connection it would be positive, pity its pushed by bitmain.

I thought I'd clarify, the SMS patent was not filed by Bitmain, so don't bring out those pitchforks just yet lol. It was filed by US tech company Intuit:

https://www.pymnts.com/news/b2b-payments/2018/intuit-mobile-bitcoin-patent-cryptocurrency/

OP's article was a week's worth of news and it just happened to be headlined by Bitmain's IPO.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: JamesCook on August 24, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
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Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: Ava Duvall on August 24, 2018, 08:43:34 AM
I'm not sure that this can become a new Revolution, but it is also the positive news in our bank of positive news about bitcoin when the last drop will be dropped, it will spoil out.
Any change or adoption and integration is a big step forward. so the more change the better.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: Femhab on August 24, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
This is an awesome idea and it needs real development. If this can be done successfully then financial institutions will need to start thinking blockchain.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: A Feeder on September 27, 2018, 01:36:39 PM
That is a good thing and news that you can transact through via SMS therefore we can easily access and transact to every country, I hope that will be happen in the future because now some government are not accept bitcoin to their countries.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: mahilchii on September 27, 2018, 01:51:24 PM
This is an awesome idea and it needs real development. If this can be done successfully then financial institutions will need to start thinking blockchain.
To be honest I am not aware about it, but this is a great news that BTC is reaching its height day by day. This is how technology speaks money is a big concern for everyone. Definitely it's a big achievement as digital currency is trending everyday.


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: AlexTF.CCN on September 28, 2018, 11:03:27 AM
Everybody is getting a patent out, but we still have to see results to see if they carry things through :o


Title: Re: A company just patented Bitcoin transactions via SMS
Post by: gunungkembar on September 28, 2018, 11:24:07 AM
I think such transactions are very long and too time-wasting, you can advise your company to use blockchain technology that has a very high speed when making transactions.