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Title: The Manipulator
Post by: N12 on October 22, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
This is the second time I witness it.

Someone keeps putting up several k of asks at exactly 3$, and someone tried bringing the market down by selling a bunch.

This is exactly what happened back at 7$. Someone killed the rally simply by selling 10k or so into the market, then setting up a big ask wall.

I am certain that whoever this is, it is not profit oriented. No human with greed intact trades like this. It is selling at critical points to eliminate a deeper rally. I am almost certain that this is an entity with an interest of keeping Bitcoin down.

Let’s see if he succeeds.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: GoWest on October 22, 2011, 04:31:23 PM
He failed.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on October 22, 2011, 05:25:16 PM
Miserably!   :D


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: ArsenShnurkov on October 22, 2011, 06:09:56 PM
My wall was destroyed. But my vision is alive. Other bears will take the revenge !!!


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: wobber on October 22, 2011, 06:11:17 PM
Price going dowwn!


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: adamstgBit on October 22, 2011, 06:40:06 PM
Price going dowwn!

i think not!


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: klaus on October 23, 2011, 04:50:15 PM

The Guy with the 40k bid wall at 2.00 some days ago is sitting now at 2.8 with ~27k

27k is 2/3 of 40k. for me its clear its an ordinary investor with a 1/3 step strategy. 1/3 he already invested, 27 is the rest.

when his next mark upsides breaks, he will invest the next 13k.



Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: wobber on October 23, 2011, 05:30:20 PM

The Guy with the 40k bid wall at 2.00 some days ago is sitting now at 2.8 with ~27k

27k is 2/3 of 40k. for me its clear its an ordinary investor with a 1/3 step strategy. 1/3 he already invested, 27 is the rest.

when his next mark upsides breaks, he will invest the next 13k.



27k is not enough to sustain the $3 price IMO.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on October 23, 2011, 05:42:30 PM

The Guy with the 40k bid wall at 2.00 some days ago is sitting now at 2.8 with ~27k

27k is 2/3 of 40k. for me its clear its an ordinary investor with a 1/3 step strategy. 1/3 he already invested, 27 is the rest.

when his next mark upsides breaks, he will invest the next 13k.



Think about it! A bid wall ~37-40k @ $2 is $75-80k. A bid wall @ $2.80 for 27k BTC is $76k. That is just what you can buy when the price increases. The wall is just the last ditch effort to prevent a large drop, hence why it is so low, and is only moved up when the price gets high enough that it's not in immediate danger of being sold into.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: klaus on October 23, 2011, 05:49:06 PM
no matter if and where he build the Rest. 2.3, 2.5, 2.8 or somewhere else. he has his reasons.

27k is 2/3 rest from 40k. thats all i observed.

so 40k was no fake or manipulation for me.

just a lazy investor not having time to look the whole day on the chart/trend.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: klaus on October 23, 2011, 05:52:51 PM
Think about it! A bid wall ~37-40k @ $2 is $75-80k. A bid wall @ $2.80 for 27k BTC is $76k. That is just what you can buy when the price increases. The wall is just the last ditch effort to prevent a large drop, hence why it is so low, and is only moved up when the price gets high enough that it's not in immediate danger of being sold into.

do you know how to buy in a 1/3 step strategy ? i think thats what he's doing.

no greed/risk, just safe buying in an uptrend.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Hunyadi on September 14, 2014, 03:09:27 PM
http://brucemctague.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/50-something-same-old-thinking.jpg


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Hyena on September 14, 2014, 06:23:26 PM
Someone smite the necromancer.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Dump3er on September 14, 2014, 06:35:32 PM
The One Manipulator's campaign in ancient bitcoin times.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: InwardContour on September 14, 2014, 06:35:42 PM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: criptix on September 14, 2014, 06:38:58 PM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...

If you are still here in 3 years i think you will be happy as it is ;)


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Gyrsur on September 14, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...

If you are still here in 3 years i think you will be happy as it is ;)

time to buy!  ;D


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: oda.krell on September 14, 2014, 07:58:28 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: inca on September 14, 2014, 08:10:52 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: criptix on September 14, 2014, 08:15:25 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)

Weak hands *cough* :D

Or not rich enough ;)


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on September 14, 2014, 08:24:32 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)

Weak hands *cough* :D

Or not rich enough ;)

Can you ever be too rich? ;)


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: N12 on September 14, 2014, 08:39:07 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Back then, at least until 2012, you actually had absolutely blatant manipulation, putting up scare walls and pulling them which was relatively common. Nowadays, it's actually the exception. The markets have become relatively deep (compared to the past!) and much harder to move, particularly when you consider how distributed the exchange volume is nowadays. If you'd been there, you would have probably viewed it the same – ask WA, he's least susceptible to such delusions and even he saw the manipulation.

There's no doubt I attributed the manipulators too much meaning though, particularly in 2012 when there were 50k walls. The manipulators pass with time.

Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)
You think no rich people waste their time on forums? :P


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: lyth0s on September 15, 2014, 07:11:26 AM
Manipulators still exist, even last year they were still rampant on BTC-e. Manipulators just need bigger pockets nowadays.

And to the other posters, if you're rich and no longer need to work.....posting on the forum for your hobby sounds like a good pass-time to me :)


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Hunyadi on September 15, 2014, 07:18:17 AM
Perhaps Blitz is the manipulator  :o


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: seljo on September 15, 2014, 08:18:09 AM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...

If you are still here in 3 years i think you will be happy as it is ;)

time to buy!  ;D
How? I never sodl!!


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: piramida on September 15, 2014, 08:24:24 AM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)

what else would a rich person do inbetween cocktail party and a foot massage? other than read newbies on btctalk and smile nostalgically :)


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: minimalB on September 15, 2014, 10:49:20 AM
Hahah, this necro thread gave me a nice laugh! LOL, thanks!

2011, what a year!

BTW: do you miss Atlas? He was like a diamond compared to today's trolls! : )


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: piramida on September 15, 2014, 11:48:54 AM

BTW: do you miss Atlas? He was like a diamond compared to today's trolls! : )


yeah, at least he was intelligent and could respond to a follow up question, unlike the current bullshit spewing automatons.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: spooderman on September 15, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Manipulators now only need 1/100th of what they had to have back then to manipulate.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: giveBTCpls on September 15, 2014, 05:03:56 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)

what else would a rich person do inbetween cocktail party and a foot massage? other than read newbies on btctalk and smile nostalgically :)

It sucks being a boat miser. Here I am, with barely 1 BTC, where if I arrived a bit earlier, I could be retired myseld and my entire family from this rat race. The only thing I have to look forward is to work, bald and die, being an early adopter could have saved me from this torture. If BTC ever goes high enough per coin to have a life changing impact on me I will be too old to enjoy the benefits anyway (or dead). Im 25, so unless 1 BTC is like 100K in 2034, im fucked, any older than 45 and it's just not the same.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on September 16, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)

what else would a rich person do inbetween cocktail party and a foot massage? other than read newbies on btctalk and smile nostalgically :)

It sucks being a boat miser. Here I am, with barely 1 BTC, where if I arrived a bit earlier, I could be retired myseld and my entire family from this rat race. The only thing I have to look forward is to work, bald and die, being an early adopter could have saved me from this torture. If BTC ever goes high enough per coin to have a life changing impact on me I will be too old to enjoy the benefits anyway (or dead). Im 25, so unless 1 BTC is like 100K in 2034, im fucked, any older than 45 and it's just not the same.
Just trade dude. Learn how to.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: N12 on October 05, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Back then, at least until 2012, you actually had absolutely blatant manipulation, putting up scare walls and pulling them which was relatively common. Nowadays, it's actually the exception. The markets have become relatively deep (compared to the past!) and much harder to move, particularly when you consider how distributed the exchange volume is nowadays. If you'd been there, you would have probably viewed it the same – ask WA, he's least susceptible to such delusions and even he saw the manipulation.

There's no doubt I attributed the manipulators too much meaning though, particularly in 2012 when there were 50k walls. The manipulators pass with time.

Now you can all see what the manipulator looked like. But the manipulator back then was even more aggressive.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: fewcoins on October 05, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...

If you are still here in 3 years i think you will be happy as it is ;)

time to buy!  ;D

Good call bro, I think you all said that around $800 too! You're making the community lose more money!!


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Robert Paulson on October 05, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...

If you are still here in 3 years i think you will be happy as it is ;)

time to buy!  ;D

Good call bro, I think you all said that around $800 too! You're making the community lose more money!!

in 10 years when the price hits 100,000$ we will look back at this thread and laugh.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: fewcoins on October 06, 2014, 12:05:32 AM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...

If you are still here in 3 years i think you will be happy as it is ;)

time to buy!  ;D

Good call bro, I think you all said that around $800 too! You're making the community lose more money!!

in 10 years when the price hits 100,000$ we will look back at this thread and laugh.

Im sure bro, People have been saying that all year but we have 11 months of losses. Who exactly is laughing right now?  ???


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: wachtwoord on October 09, 2014, 07:59:38 AM
It's fun to see how things aren't changed after three years, btw I wish I would be here in 2011...

If you are still here in 3 years i think you will be happy as it is ;)

time to buy!  ;D

Good call bro, I think you all said that around $800 too! You're making the community lose more money!!

in 10 years when the price hits 100,000$ we will look back at this thread and laugh.

Im sure bro, People have been saying that all year but we have 11 months of losses. Who exactly is laughing right now?  ???

People who are patient and don't think so incredibly short term?


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: cypherdoc on October 09, 2014, 08:08:20 AM
Blitz, why you such a conspiracy nut? 


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: cbeast on October 09, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Back then, at least until 2012, you actually had absolutely blatant manipulation, putting up scare walls and pulling them which was relatively common. Nowadays, it's actually the exception. The markets have become relatively deep (compared to the past!) and much harder to move, particularly when you consider how distributed the exchange volume is nowadays. If you'd been there, you would have probably viewed it the same – ask WA, he's least susceptible to such delusions and even he saw the manipulation.

There's no doubt I attributed the manipulators too much meaning though, particularly in 2012 when there were 50k walls. The manipulators pass with time.

Now you can all see what the manipulator looked like. But the manipulator back then was even more aggressive.
I nominate Blitz for the first Best Necro "I Told You So" Award.


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Elwar on October 09, 2014, 01:21:19 PM
Awww, look at puppy Blitz, before he became all callous and cynical about the markets... He even complained about a "manipulator" who's "keeping the price down" ... just like the new noobs are doing now :3


Don't ban me please :D

Several names still posting regularly on here. Why not rich?! :)

Because of The Manipulator  :-\


Title: Re: The Manipulator
Post by: Gyrsur on April 01, 2019, 09:00:51 PM
anybody is still watching "The Manipulator" these days?