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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: jaybobcrypto on August 23, 2018, 07:46:39 AM



Title: Arbitrage
Post by: jaybobcrypto on August 23, 2018, 07:46:39 AM
Heyo. I started to get into the topic recently. Some useful info I found:

https://medium.com/@arbidexpromo/exchange-arbitrage-explained-75d87b03d420
https://medium.com/@arbidexpromo/have-difficulties-with-starting-using-arbidex-arbitrage-our-detailed-digest-is-here-to-help-f94ab43e536d
https://hackernoon.com/ever-tried-arbitrage-at-a-crypto-exchange-heres-the-deal-d9eb076926bc
https://www.cryptocointrade.com/about-trading/crypto-trading-strategies/
https://hackernoon.com/new-tools-enable-profit-in-a-bear-or-sideways-cryptocurrency-market-43bda281d6a5

there is a lot of disbalance in the market.
Especially I'm interested in lower caps where spreads can be 10-40%


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: butka on August 23, 2018, 10:03:53 AM
there is a lot of disbalance in the market.
Especially I'm interested in lower caps where spreads can be 10-40%
Yes there are disbalances in the crypto market, and if you have analytical skills you can easily spot them. You can even find bots to do that for you. But when you endeavor to take advantage of these price differences, you can face many practical difficulties. For example, you may not be able to quickly withdraw the coins from one exchange to transfer them to the other. Or the withdrawal fees may eat up all your profit margin. Or the wallet status of the exchange may (coincidentally) be in maintenance mode. IMO, before spending any significant sums of money on arbitrage, make sure you have figured out all the practical steps and tiny details.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: SmilingBag on August 23, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
there is a lot of disbalance in the market.
Especially I'm interested in lower caps where spreads can be 10-40%
Yes there are disbalances in the crypto market, and if you have analytical skills you can easily spot them. You can even find bots to do that for you. But when you endeavor to take advantage of these price differences, you can face many practical difficulties. For example, you may not be able to quickly withdraw the coins from one exchange to transfer them to the other. Or the withdrawal fees may eat up all your profit margin. Or the wallet status of the exchange may (coincidentally) be in maintenance mode. IMO, before spending any significant sums of money on arbitrage, make sure you have figured out all the practical steps and tiny details.

yeah, true, dont go all-in like a complete retard
what about risk management? 2-3% of a capital for a trade is to tight, perhaps


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: slashz9 on August 23, 2018, 02:25:54 PM
yes i agree, but some exchange with different price, some have delayed when deposit and withdraw, and some coin still close deposit address problem like that, if lucky you can make maybe 40% profit in once trading.
so even in arbitrage still have risk, be wise.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: sadcrypto on August 23, 2018, 02:51:01 PM
40% per trade that's sick for arbitrage
even per month, it's super cool, lol


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: Tytanowy Janusz on August 23, 2018, 04:12:34 PM
And alwais check how deep market is. It may have 40 % spread but buy orded where you would like to sell with 40% profit is only 50$ worth, next one is on 10% profit with 100$ worth and next one is on 10% loss with 1000$ - and you forget about that and bought for 2000$.

And even if you spot opportunity with deep enought market your price can be eaten while transfering. Huge arbitrage guys can arbitrage without withdrawing or with withdrawing with special conditions given by exchange that you cant dream of. Thats why its impossible with small capital on high volume coins and risky on low volume coins that whales are not interrested to arbitrage on.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: Oilacris on August 23, 2018, 06:28:00 PM
Heyo. I started to get into the topic recently. Some useful info I found:

https://medium.com/@arbidexpromo/exchange-arbitrage-explained-75d87b03d420
https://medium.com/@arbidexpromo/have-difficulties-with-starting-using-arbidex-arbitrage-our-detailed-digest-is-here-to-help-f94ab43e536d
https://hackernoon.com/ever-tried-arbitrage-at-a-crypto-exchange-heres-the-deal-d9eb076926bc
https://www.cryptocointrade.com/about-trading/crypto-trading-strategies/
https://hackernoon.com/new-tools-enable-profit-in-a-bear-or-sideways-cryptocurrency-market-43bda281d6a5

there is a lot of disbalance in the market.
Especially I'm interested in lower caps where spreads can be 10-40%
Huge price gaps can really happen on this market and arbitrage can really exist but the question is, how you can precisely perform such transaction? It do takes timing and fast confirmation of the entire network plus having no problems with withdrawal and deposits of certain exchangers because these are the factors can really mainly affect your profitability and success.If not then expect on loss a percentage of your capital either on fees or sudden swings on prices.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: freezzeer on August 23, 2018, 08:19:47 PM
Thanks for the information about Arbitrage.There is so many mobile applications to search Arbitrage opportunities in exchangs


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: usmanov123 on August 23, 2018, 08:26:39 PM
Thanks for the information about Arbitrage.There is so many mobile applications to search Arbitrage opportunities in exchangs

Could you share some names, pls?


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: triciaa478 on August 23, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
Arbitrage in cryptocurrency is nothing something you can exploit to make profit because if the opportunity to arb between two exchanges or on a single exchange, the transactions fees will kill your arbitrage profit.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: worldofcoins on August 23, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
there is a lot of disbalance in the market.
Especially I'm interested in lower caps where spreads can be 10-40%
Yes there are disbalances in the crypto market, and if you have analytical skills you can easily spot them. You can even find bots to do that for you. But when you endeavor to take advantage of these price differences, you can face many practical difficulties. For example, you may not be able to quickly withdraw the coins from one exchange to transfer them to the other. Or the withdrawal fees may eat up all your profit margin. Or the wallet status of the exchange may (coincidentally) be in maintenance mode. IMO, before spending any significant sums of money on arbitrage, make sure you have figured out all the practical steps and tiny details.

That there is very good advice. I myself, once experienced some of the unpleasantries you mentioned and its really important one takes all of the little steps into account because these things do matter.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: Indrawan77 on August 24, 2018, 12:57:30 AM
There are chances to earn from arbitrage and I agree that there are price difference in some exchanges, but it surely need time to search when you want to do arbitrage and its not that easy, you need to make sure there supply and demand that match your amount, the speed transaction, and the legitimate exchanges, because usually the one that offered higher price is the unpopular exchanges


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: pooya87 on August 24, 2018, 04:12:05 AM
there is a lot of disbalance in the market.
Especially I'm interested in lower caps where spreads can be 10-40%

true but making profit is not always possible.
i have tried arbitrage trading for a long period of time in the past 1.5-2 year while developing my own bot for automation. the results are never good enough to justify the risk. and the loss is possible and it can wipe out everything you have made specially when you are arbitrage trading between exchanges.
and the small cap coins are the worst because their orderbooks are too thin, sometimes the volume is not even as big as minimum withdrawal! not to mention that some exchanges have their wallets disabled, maintenance,... which may lead to losses and it is impossible to check most of their wallet status through API or even their website other than making a deposit and seeing what happens.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: x8664amd on August 24, 2018, 04:48:52 AM
In reality, arbitrage is not that simple. One of your limiting factor is how fast you can transfer your coins from one exchange platform to another exchange platform.

Many exchange platforms have daily withdrawals. This means by the time you clear your coin transfer, the arbitrage opportunity is already long gone. You also carry significant delta exposure during the transfer process.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: nicster551 on August 24, 2018, 05:38:04 AM
Heyo. I started to get into the topic recently. Some useful info I found:

https://medium.com/@arbidexpromo/exchange-arbitrage-explained-75d87b03d420
https://medium.com/@arbidexpromo/have-difficulties-with-starting-using-arbidex-arbitrage-our-detailed-digest-is-here-to-help-f94ab43e536d
https://hackernoon.com/ever-tried-arbitrage-at-a-crypto-exchange-heres-the-deal-d9eb076926bc
https://www.cryptocointrade.com/about-trading/crypto-trading-strategies/
https://hackernoon.com/new-tools-enable-profit-in-a-bear-or-sideways-cryptocurrency-market-43bda281d6a5

there is a lot of disbalance in the market.
Especially I'm interested in lower caps where spreads can be 10-40%

This are some good strategies in trading that I also use for some time. It's quite difficult to do but worth it. And also it is good for altcoins.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: jcojci on August 24, 2018, 06:58:25 AM
I am not sure with arbitrage trading because I heard that we need to calculate the time for sending and receive the coins to other exchange so we can make a big profit. I am too afraid to do arbitrage trading because it is too risky for me and besides that, I don't know how to know how much time that will need to send and receive the coin.


Title: Re: Arbitrage
Post by: usmanov123 on August 24, 2018, 08:14:56 AM
I am not sure with arbitrage trading because I heard that we need to calculate the time for sending and receive the coins to other exchange so we can make a big profit. I am too afraid to do arbitrage trading because it is too risky for me and besides that, I don't know how to know how much time that will need to send and receive the coin.

You can try with a small number of coins. There is the info about block time in coins ANNs