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Title: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: hoaryal1 on August 24, 2018, 03:03:44 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Ibrahim 2020 on August 24, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
 With my view i think SEC means Securities and Exchange Commission. is a federal agency that regulates the U.S. stock market, the SEC contributes to the high standard of living we enjoy today. It does this by providing transparency into the financial workings of U.S. companies. It makes sure investors can get accurate and consistent information about corporate profitability.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: BitcoinNewbie15 on August 24, 2018, 03:15:13 PM
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Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?

The SEC stands for the Securities and Exchange Commission. It is a US-based entity and they essentially regulate the stock market (Securities and Exchanges).

I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

The SEC is the entity that would approve or reject the ETF proposals. A lot of people think an ETF is an important decision because an approval would bring a great deal of legitimacy to Bitcoin as an asset. Also, it would open the doors for many institutional investors to easily diversify their portfolios into Bitcoin, as an ETF is essentially a way to buy Bitcoin straight off the stock market (however you don't hold the coins, the investment group does (risky)). This would be good for the market in a number of ways. Easy access to invest in Bitcoin is a good thing. However, In order for an ETF to get approved, the SEC needs to deem the asset to be regulated and not subject to anonymous manipulation. Obviously, Bitcoin can be manipulated easily by anonymous people, as most of the largest Bitcoin exchanges out there are not US based and therefore don't have KYC/anti-money laundering requirements.

This is why the last proposal was rejected and it's why future proposals are likely to be rejected as well.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: LeGaulois on August 24, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
The S.E.C. is like the trading exchange police, it's a financial market regulator, but that's an answer you could have known by looking for using a search engine. People were speculating too much on the ETF thinking it could give some trust or an approval from a governmental institution to Bitcoin and so a boost to its price.
edit: sorry, I was replying at the same time with @BitcoinNewbie15


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: jseverson on August 24, 2018, 03:47:58 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

What's so important about it:

It can attract institutional investors into the market and can potentially solidify Bitcoin's status as an asset class. It's not without disadvantages though, as you can tell by the split opinions of the community.

Why it's good for the market:

It can potentially raise demand and, consequently, prices.

Why we get rejected:

The SEC thinks the Bitcoin market is too vulnerable to manipulation by unknown individuals, among a few other more minor things. This specific factor likely means no Bitcoin ETF will be approved in the near future.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: bitmover on August 24, 2018, 05:19:25 PM
I believe etf drama is one of the biggest contradictions in bitcoin community.

On one hand , many people are worried about it because institutional investors will have a legal instrument to buy bitcoin. We are talking about billions maybe trillions.

On the other hand , bitcoin was created so that we all could have a financial life away of this corrupted and Centralized financial system and institutional investors.

On the third hand (lol) I believe that bitcoin should allow anyone to participate. Even institutional money.
Institutional money also means pension funds, that is composed by millions of individuals. I think everyone should be able to buy bitcoin. No exceptions.


TLDR: ETF = Lambos.

https://i.redd.it/hhwaky0880711.png


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: pawanjain on August 24, 2018, 05:24:21 PM
SEC is the exchange commission of the US and is the deciding factor whether the institutional investors will get the ability to get involved with BTC or not. The governments are against BTC since it has trust issues with it because of its high volatility and pumps and dumps. This is why the SEC is delaying the announcement of BTC ETF. If approved the chances of BTC price rising high is higher. BTC ETF has attracted many people towards BTC these days.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Olayinka225 on December 26, 2018, 06:24:56 PM
I think SEC is a Federal Organization in USA that regulates all the stocks in the country and are there to ascertain the transparency and easy transaction of every business trading, stock market, pricing check and balance.  And I also think they are after crypto also because they want transparency in the trading for every of there people also they're into what should be lay down guidelines for every crypto enthusiasts.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: KingScorpio on December 26, 2018, 06:28:34 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

the SEC is a pseudostatist organ of the private american banking cartel that runs it in order to fake an altruistic legitimacy,

it is not statist or public as the united states is not a communist society it is simply a private lobby organization created to represent the regulatory interests of the american banking cartel.

the american banking cartel is selfregulated and runs basically the united states.

regards


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: sorrysteve1 on December 26, 2018, 07:54:33 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

the SEC is a pseudostatist organ of the private american banking cartel that runs it in order to fake an altruistic legitimacy,

it is not statist or public as the united states is not a communist society it is simply a private lobby organization created to represent the regulatory interests of the american banking cartel.

the american banking cartel is selfregulated and runs basically the united states.

regards

The SEC could be decommissioned or ignored at a moments notice. The banking sector like some other business sectors is required to self regulate because the leading experts all work for the banks. You cannot have people without any knowledge of an industry regulating it. It's evidently a conflict of interest but it's much better than the alternative.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: avikz on December 26, 2018, 08:30:49 PM
Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?

I would like to answer the question mentioned in the subject line in simple words.

SEC is the regulator of the US stock market. Without the absence of SEC, anyone would register a company  and list it to stock market to raise funds without having a real profitable business. That brings a significant risk because without a regulator anyone would raise money and run away without being caught.

So SEC is here to ensure that only real and profitable companies are listed in stock market so that the chance of being cheated are minimized. That's the real world usage of SEC in simple words.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: HabBear on December 26, 2018, 09:34:48 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

Sure, the SEC is the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. It's only relevant to people who engage in securities trading from/for/with a U.S. based company or exchange. If you live outside the U.S. (as most of you do) you can stop reading now.

The SEC was created in 1934 to provide regulation over the companies (securities) that are made available for investment by the public (you). The idea for the regulating entity came after the U.S. stock market crash of 1929 which lead to the Great Depression, a time of severe unemployment and hardship for many in the US. The entity protects the public from being able to invest in scam companies or companies that commit fraud.

If Mt Gox were registered by the SEC as a cryptocurrency exchange the investors who had funds held with Mt Gox would have received some compensation (not complete, but partial) for the fraud that Mt Gox committed that led to loss of so many accounts and assets. BitConnect is another more recent example.

Since the SEC can impose their regulatory effort over the crypto world they continue to refuse to let crypto related entities or securities trade over their exchanges. It's not horrible. But of the SEC did accept a Bitcoin ETF it would be great for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Denton on December 26, 2018, 09:47:16 PM
When the SEC will accept bitcoin ETF all major world exchanges will be officially allowed to trade bitcoins under the control of the regulator. If all goes well, then all major investors will invest their money in crypto. This will be very useful for the market because it will be able to increase the capitalization of cryptocurrencies and their prices will grow rapidly. Therefore, everyone is waiting for this event.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Oniko on December 26, 2018, 09:56:17 PM
SEC is an American securities regulator. I think they are needed to create an illusion of legality, while rich people rule the SEC. I'm sure the SEC doesn't do good deeds.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Marbelli on December 26, 2018, 10:54:35 PM
I think that we don’t need them at all since all this time we have been fighting for decentralization and should not retreat from it


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: rodskee on December 26, 2018, 10:55:13 PM
United state of america want to regulate bitcoin or crypto currency
As i know their have a group of bitcoin enthusiasm file to US security and exchange commission fro legality of crypto in the states
because US government want bitcoin become regulated to control their stable price moments that's the is the importance of sec
but until now the decision is delay because didn't know how to regulates and control bitcoin as volatile currency


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: kelz1 on January 02, 2019, 11:14:06 AM
There is huge demand from institutional investors to add bitcoin to their portfolio but they can't do it without the SEC approving an ETF. When it happens the big money will enter the bitcoin market so accumulate before that happens


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: metalglowd on January 11, 2019, 11:05:40 PM
actually we don't really need the SEC, it's just a new rule so that crypto experts still follow the rules of certain people if crypto wants to keep going as they expect. SEC is also only optional which may not benefit at all, they just cannot protect crypto assets, how will they protect participants?


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on January 11, 2019, 11:19:16 PM
In simple terms is a governing body operating solely, and has got all the freedom to question anything that has got economic relation. These members have raised question against each and every corporate network. They have proven themselves, and with bitcoin these commission just ignores without reason. Maybe these people were the one from illuminati network. If bitcoin and blockchain technology reach the entire population of the world, they cannot control people further.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on January 11, 2019, 11:39:10 PM

On the third hand (lol) I believe that bitcoin should allow anyone to participate. Even institutional money.
Institutional money also means pension funds, that is composed by millions of individuals. I think everyone should be able to buy bitcoin. No exceptions.


Not only it should, in a sense that we shouldn't bitch about institutional money getting in, but it already is and has always been the case, because Bitcoin is free to everyone. So, all these critics of banks and governments can do absolutely nothing about those bodies getting into Bitcoin if they wanted to.

It's especially funny how the same people who praise Bitcoin for being robust and indestructible are saying that ETF would be a disaster. Turns out those evil governments don't need to ban Bitcoin to kill it, they only need to embrace it, lol.



Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Nhor1011 on January 11, 2019, 11:52:43 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

SEC play a big rule in terms of market industry and cryptocurrency is one of this market.The Securities and Exchange Commission is the agency responsible for regulating the securities industry . In addition to its regulatory functions, the SEC also maintains the country's company register.The SEC is responsible for the efficient,transparrent and effective market.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: KingScorpio on January 12, 2019, 12:20:20 AM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

the SEC is a pseudostatist, organ of the private american usd printing banking cartel

it is a big fake created and developed during the cold war, in order to keep americans believing they can get rich and wealthy,

in truth the banks were designed to make the established rich richer and richer, and keep the poor dreaming and working.

regards


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: ranman09 on January 12, 2019, 12:50:59 AM
On the third hand (lol) I believe that bitcoin should allow anyone to participate. Even institutional money.
Institutional money also means pension funds, that is composed by millions of individuals. I think everyone should be able to buy bitcoin. No exceptions.



On the fourth hand, If the sec will require bitcoin to be regulated and to remove the anonymity (can be?). Then it will not be bitcoin anymore. This matter is really confusing for both the SEC and us holders haha.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Sadlife on January 12, 2019, 01:12:49 AM
Well basically SEC allows bitcoin to operate in certain countries like US not that it can't operate without SEC'S permission but it can help to avoid bitcoin getting banned and avoid getting treated us a ponzi scheme this hepls btc boost its popularity to investors and local businesses to be adopted. We dont need SEC's approval but it will certainly helps us.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: deppil on January 12, 2019, 04:20:36 AM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

SEC play a big rule in terms of market industry and cryptocurrency is one of this market.The Securities and Exchange Commission is the agency responsible for regulating the securities industry . In addition to its regulatory functions, the SEC also maintains the country's company register.The SEC is responsible for the efficient,transparrent and effective market.
when the SEC recognizes bitcoin and provides regulations on bitcoin to be traded, of course it will have a positive effect, of course the bitcoin market will be wider, users will be more numerous, and certainly will make prices go up and bitcoin is increasingly popular


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: bitmover on January 12, 2019, 08:39:40 AM

On the fourth hand, If the sec will require bitcoin to be regulated and to remove the anonymity (can be?). Then it will not be bitcoin anymore. This matter is really confusing for both the SEC and us holders haha.

I believe that removing bitcoin anonymity is not possible.
Of course kyc can be required everywhere, but you can always create a new address that Will be anonymous for some time at least

There are always turn around for excessive regulations


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: hicaribou on January 12, 2019, 09:16:00 AM
However, In order for an ETF to get approved, the SEC needs to deem the asset to be regulated and not subject to anonymous manipulation. Obviously, Bitcoin can be manipulated easily by anonymous people, as most of the largest Bitcoin exchanges out there are not US based and therefore don't have KYC/anti-money laundering requirements.

This is why the last proposal was rejected and it's why future proposals are likely to be rejected as well.
Does that KYC procedure on exchange have the biggest impact on ETF approval? Actually i see that many even most of the exchanges have had KYC procedure especially for big capital users.

Do you think this will affect the current pending ETF approval?


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: jonathan6655321 on January 30, 2019, 08:54:41 PM
What is the Securities And Exchange Commission - SEC
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is an independent federal government agency responsible for protecting investors, maintaining fair and orderly functioning of securities markets and facilitating capital formation. It was created by Congress in 1934 as the first federal regulator of securities markets. The SEC promotes full public disclosure, protects investors against fraudulent and manipulative practices in the market, and monitors corporate takeover actions in the United States.


Generally, issues of securities offered in interstate commerce, through the mail or on the Internet, must be registered with the SEC before they can be sold to investors. Financial services firms, such as broker-dealers, advisory firms and asset managers, as well as their professional representatives, must also register with the SEC to conduct business.

source:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sec.asp


i hope it helps


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: rodel caling on January 30, 2019, 10:27:23 PM
Because is all about ETF issues that's why bitcoin need the sec approval, people are hoping if the ETF approve by the US security and exchange commision possible bitcoin bounce back again their price.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Olalomi on January 30, 2019, 10:50:56 PM
With my view i think SEC means Securities and Exchange Commission. is a federal agency that regulates the U.S. stock market, the SEC contributes to the high standard of living we enjoy today. It does this by providing transparency into the financial workings of U.S. companies. It makes sure investors can get accurate and consistent information about corporate profitability.
This is a quite insightful and simple enough to comprehend I think a lot people are aware of delay approval of bitcoin trading by SEC but could not really know what they stand for and their mode of operations but I believed from this many newbie will able to learn and understand more details about SEC.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: priselive on January 31, 2019, 08:13:39 AM
United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Frequently, the Commission finds it expedient to allocate long periods for making these or other decisions to approve or disapprove the proposed change of rules that may be created in the market.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: coinnumber on February 10, 2019, 03:00:58 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?
SEC is Securities and Exchange Commission backed by US to ensure dependability and effectiveness by directing and checking securities markets. This has almost wiped ICO projects off as STO projects are been monitored by SEC for the safety of investors funds. I think this will also add to the development of bitcoin and crypto price in general.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: bdbabiak77 on February 10, 2019, 06:08:47 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

the SEC is a pseudostatist organ of the private american banking cartel that runs it in order to fake an altruistic legitimacy,

it is not statist or public as the united states is not a communist society it is simply a private lobby organization created to represent the regulatory interests of the american banking cartel.

the american banking cartel is selfregulated and runs basically the united states.

regards

Nailed it!


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: fosco333 on February 11, 2019, 02:34:34 AM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

Well, SEC is Securities and Exchange Commission, a legal federal in US.
Their duty is to regulates the matters about securities market in the world, and protecting the investors against fraud.
If bitcoin ETF approved by them, i think it will be good because more peoples will come into crypto.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Mfomo on February 12, 2019, 01:02:15 PM
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is an independent agency of the United States federal government. The SEC holds primary responsibility for enforcing the federal securities laws, proposing securities rules, and regulating the securities industry, the nation's stock and options exchanges, and other activities and organizations, including the electronic securities markets in the United States.
Formed June 6, 1934; 84 years ago..


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: kotajikikox on February 12, 2019, 02:01:07 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

SEC I EXPLAIN it with my own understanding   about the importance of sec in cryptocurrency involvement.
Some people they believe if bitcoin become regulated their value become expensive again.

approves by the sec control by the government of each country bitcoon will become stable by doing this idea as regulated currency and the privacy being decentralized anonymous digital curreny become regulated and control the government as legal tender.


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: Pab on February 12, 2019, 05:10:33 PM
I hear so much about the SEC in the last few weeks. Can anyone explain what's so important about this decision. why it's good for the market, and why we get rejected?

SEC is USA regulatory body.His mission is to protect investors
Decision you are talking about is famous ETF approval i guess
Bitcoin ETF has been rejected because of price manipulation on global exchanges
Bitcoin ETF approval can have huge impact on price but if ETF will be only next derivative than i am worry than bitcoin can be asset similar to gold
But if we talk about price than gold price jumped 1000% after gold ETF has been approved


Title: Re: Can someone explain in simple words what's the SEC and why we need it?
Post by: taratorly on February 12, 2019, 05:17:53 PM
In fact, ETF is just a US-based development. It won't really affect the rest of the world. However, the market is very focused on the SEC and the ETF. I don't think there's a useful conclusion from the SEC.