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Title: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: GymClassHeroes on August 27, 2018, 12:47:10 PM
Bitcoin ETF approval by SEC has been a front burner in recent times , it is believed to bring in huge benefits if eventually approved. Here are four reasons why it was rejected (or are still pending):
 1. Market is still very small , just 110 B$, compared to trillions of dollars for other markets
 2. Market manipulation and frauds (exchange Acts requirement not met)
 3. Lack of transparency (or control) as much of the bitcoin holdings are outside the US jurisdiction, same is true for the big exchanges
 4. Lack of co-ordination by global exchanges,SEC  will welcome a scenario where exchanges are able to work together.



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Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: KingScorpio on August 27, 2018, 12:50:26 PM
Bitcoin ETF approval by SEC has been a front burner in recent times , it is believed to bring in huge benefits if eventually approved. Here are four reasons why it was rejected (or are still pending):
 1. Market is still very small , just 110 B$, compared to trillions of dollars for other markets
 2. Market manipulation and frauds (exchange Acts requirement not met)
 3. Lack of transparency (or control) as much of the bitcoin holdings are outside the US jurisdiction, same is true for the big exchanges
 4. Lack of co-ordination by global exchanges,SEC  will welcome a scenario where exchanges are able to work together.



Credit: https://www.coinness.com/en-gb/newsflash/detail/96299


1. why do you care what the SEC says? its just a body of a "selfregulated" banking cartel in the usa. why should you care about what they say? they want everyone unregulated. out so they have complete power to scam the americans, keeping them as their slaves. bitcoin was created outside of legal surveilance for reasons.

2. whats the use of bitcoin etfs? anyway.



Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: Slow death on August 27, 2018, 01:36:32 PM
1. Market is still very small , just 110 B$, compared to trillions of dollars for other markets

true, we are still a long way from gold markets, for example.

2. Market manipulation and frauds (exchange Acts requirement not met)

I agree, we have a lot of frauds and a lot of exchange are not trustworthy, Just to give an example:

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

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Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: Betty10 on August 27, 2018, 01:59:30 PM
These days, I don't take the SEC serious. Despite their continues rejection of the ETF, bitcoin price remains steady and upward. Soon, they will just beg to approving it when they see they can't stop the revolution. We all know all these is to manipulate the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: 131tc01n on August 27, 2018, 02:07:36 PM
Bitcoin ETF approval by SEC has been a front burner in recent times , it is believed to bring in huge benefits if eventually approved. Here are four reasons why it was rejected (or are still pending):
 1. Market is still very small , just 110 B$, compared to trillions of dollars for other markets
 2. Market manipulation and frauds (exchange Acts requirement not met)
 3. Lack of transparency (or control) as much of the bitcoin holdings are outside the US jurisdiction, same is true for the big exchanges
 4. Lack of co-ordination by global exchanges,SEC  will welcome a scenario where exchanges are able to work together.



Credit: https://www.coinness.com/en-gb/newsflash/detail/96299

sometimes I ask why SEC has made a decision too long if you think that way, isn't deciding to reject bitcoin is easy if it is like that, I think the SEC is considering bitcoin and this is an opportunity

1. why do you care what the SEC says? its just a body of a "selfregulated" banking cartel in the usa. why should you care about what they say? they want everyone unregulated. out so they have complete power to scam the americans, keeping them as their slaves. bitcoin was created outside of legal surveilance for reasons.

2. whats the use of bitcoin etfs? anyway.


of course we are here to care about anything that is the SEC's decision, because that decision can drive bitcoin to grow faster, everyone is also definitely waiting for that good decision


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: FactAlways on August 27, 2018, 02:17:11 PM
I believe those points are very true, most expecially exchanges nowadays are the real problem of cryptocurrency, I don't want to mention names


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: mansilkroad on August 27, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Bitcoin ETF approval by SEC has been a front burner in recent times , it is believed to bring in huge benefits if eventually approved. Here are four reasons why it was rejected (or are still pending):
 1. Market is still very small , just 110 B$, compared to trillions of dollars for other markets
 2. Market manipulation and frauds (exchange Acts requirement not met)
 3. Lack of transparency (or control) as much of the bitcoin holdings are outside the US jurisdiction, same is true for the big exchanges
 4. Lack of co-ordination by global exchanges,SEC  will welcome a scenario where exchanges are able to work together.



Credit: https://www.coinness.com/en-gb/newsflash/detail/96299


1. why do you care what the SEC says? its just a body of a "selfregulated" banking cartel in the usa. why should you care about what they say? they want everyone unregulated. out so they have complete power to scam the americans, keeping them as their slaves. bitcoin was created outside of legal surveilance for reasons.

2. whats the use of bitcoin etfs? anyway.


They want to keep Bitcoin down for now so agreeing to ETF won't happen in the near future in my opinion. And you're right, we shouldn't care what they say because they don't care about us either.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: BrewMaster on August 27, 2018, 02:27:52 PM
There will be more pressure as time goes on for the SEC to accept an etf, it will just happen but maybe not now.

there is absolutely no pressure on SEC to approve bitcoin ETF! they will reject it if they want to and there is nothing anybody can do about it. i mean they can run social media drama all they want and fill the internet like they always do but it won't change a thing :P


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: hugeblack on August 27, 2018, 03:59:29 PM
As long as the high weight of bitcoin is outside of the trading platforms, bitcoin ETF will not be accepted.
They want to check the identities of each dollar users.

2. Market manipulation and frauds (exchange Acts requirement not met)
It is probably the most likely reason for the rest of the reasons, mainly the manipulation at the end of last year.
anyway, who cares.   Not your keys, Not your coins.



Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: TheBitcoinBadger10 on August 29, 2018, 06:48:59 PM
Most of the points are true because in recent time most of the exchanges are problem for cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: Baofeng on August 29, 2018, 07:19:51 PM
Bitcoin ETF approval by SEC has been a front burner in recent times , it is believed to bring in huge benefits if eventually approved. Here are four reasons why it was rejected (or are still pending):
 1. Market is still very small , just 110 B$, compared to trillions of dollars for other markets

True

2. Market manipulation and frauds (exchange Acts requirement not met)

This is the single biggest reason why Bitcoin ETF's will not be approved. Market is prone to manipulation and we can't eliminate that.

3. Lack of transparency (or control) as much of the bitcoin holdings are outside the US jurisdiction, same is true for the big exchanges
 4. Lack of co-ordination by global exchanges,SEC  will welcome a scenario where exchanges are able to work together.



Credit: https://www.coinness.com/en-gb/newsflash/detail/96299


3 and 4 won't likely to happen as well. Exchanges will not work together and transparency or control will be difficult because its global.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: bitcoindigger71 on August 29, 2018, 07:47:31 PM
The Bitcoin ETF rejection by US securities and exchange commissionis kind of frustrating. But still, it could not affect the rise in price of Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin is sill rising.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: BitcoinMaster555 on August 29, 2018, 08:15:46 PM
This is really disappointing that bitcoin Etf has been rejected for such main reasons as these reasons show that this project had an intention to scam. There can be some misunderstanding too in their process. So now it needs to do something different top make the project reliable to get permission.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: mostkey on August 29, 2018, 09:33:21 PM
Most people have started to forget what the SEC is doing, because at that time they still have not found security in this free market so much needs to be improved so that not many people have lost money with the fraud and manipulation of the market that is rampant by the Pope, Opportunities are still difficult for us to achieve and there may be games in institutions to pressure all investors, it may happen with vulnerability manipulation, I will only focus on whatever market happens that will someday return.

This sounds really bad and it is a matter of shame that the project has been rejected due to such reasons. This also proves that the team member was not very much careful and they needed to focus on the project very carefully. Now they need to rectify these problems soon.


I think this is not a bad thing, and maybe you are someone who panics quickly, so don't worry too much about the investment you build.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: kojoannan on August 29, 2018, 09:36:12 PM
If it is lack of transparency that prevented the US SEC to prevent ETF for bitcoin into coming live then I don't think it will ever be possible for them to give it a green light in the future too. There is no transparency in the bitcoin network and don't think it will ever change.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: BigCookie on August 29, 2018, 10:21:23 PM
This is disappointing to see that ETF was rejected because all the indications show that the true purpose of it was to scam people. But this cannot be the case. Maybe there was some misunderstandings and that is why it happened. Maybe they need to come up with another way and a new project to make it look more realistic.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: BlackRogue on August 29, 2018, 10:48:09 PM
Over the time bitcoin have shown its power and potentiality to grab a huge portion of the market. If the SEC approves bitcoin as a legal transaction medium then soon it will become the prime mode of transactions. That is why SEC is showing these excuses of bitcoin limitation.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: Twinkledoe on August 29, 2018, 10:54:40 PM
There will be more pressure as time goes on for the SEC to accept an etf, it will just happen but maybe not now.

Yes, I believe that also. If they will not accept it, they will be left behind. Bitcoin life will still go on without them. They have hesitations for now maybe because of the items pointed by the OP.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: HistoryVampire on August 29, 2018, 11:13:15 PM
Yes bitcoin has some limitations which needed to be solved right now. But the delays or postpones of the approval by SEC for the ETF of bitcoin is ridiculous for me. SEC is just trying to pull down the reputation of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: vgk88 on August 29, 2018, 11:34:10 PM
They think that they do not have enough opportunities to manage the cryptocurrency market. I think ETF wants to dictate its rules to the cryptocurrency market. I do not think that the community should think too much about it.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: Horraygram on August 30, 2018, 10:41:09 AM
I think SEC is just insecure regarding the growth of bitcoin. For the last few weeks bitcoin price has been in stable position though SEC is continuously postponing the ETF approval. They are just making the repeated excuses on which bitcoin is working continuously.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: coinages on August 30, 2018, 10:51:14 AM
I think the reasons are right and I also agree with them but at the same time I think that SEC should've approved Bitcoin ETF as the future will be very much dependent on bitcoin indeed. Soo, SEC will feel the presure to approve bitcoin ETF I guess.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: Este on August 30, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
I think government just delay this process. Today or tomorrow EFT will approve. It helps the people to transfer their currency easily and quickly. I think SEC set proper paln than they approve it. So keep your patience.


Title: Re: Real reasons for bitcoin ETF rejection by US SEC
Post by: Nicolaus Copernicus on August 30, 2018, 06:04:14 PM
I think there are no absolute reasons for the rejection of EFT. I believe it will approve soon. All I know that the government set some policy for the digital currency if they come up with properly than they approve EFT.