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Title: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: Chris_Farms on August 27, 2018, 01:47:11 PM
So while i was browsing youtube yesterday i came upon this video of a Fulijuntuan TITAN 110 TH 3200watts 30watts+-/TH

I searched on bitcointalk but it seems no one has heard about this company before and their miners are already sold out.  Does anyone know if it's legit or not? Has anyone purchased from them or seen their miners in person?

I sent them an email to see if a visit or having a demo unit could be possible.

Anyone here pre-ordered or know this company?


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: philipma1957 on August 27, 2018, 02:27:40 PM
Why is it questions like this  are posted by newbies 90% of the time.

I sent them an email  to see what they are about.

I am willing to see if they send me a demo as proof of concept.

Until they reply I suggest no one buy from them.

https://i.imgur.com/Qy2J3Xi.png (https://i.imgur.com/Qy2J3Xi.png)


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: HagssFIN on August 27, 2018, 03:13:59 PM
I would do as Phil mentioned, wait and see if someone would get one demo unit. Before that moment I will treat this as a scam attempt.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: suchmoon on August 27, 2018, 03:46:57 PM
So while i was browsing youtube

I've seen shit like that advertised on youtube, facebook, etc. It's designed to appeal to less technical folks and there is a reason you'll never find any info about this magic device elsewhere. It doesn't exist.

I would suggest to remove those links from your post. No need to promote a scam.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: fanatic26_ on August 27, 2018, 03:58:47 PM
110TH for 3200 watts.....why do you guys need to know anything more about it than that?

Its so beyond obvious its not real just from the specs.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on August 27, 2018, 04:01:25 PM
I guess this is going to turn out to be a scam! 
110TH at 32w P/TH?  Seems too good to be true.

As above wait for philip to get a reply and possibly a demo machine before sending them any money.
Seems there has been explosion in equipment while if real it's a great thing for the consumer there are a lot of rogue fakes out there.

Be on your guard.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: Chris_Farms on August 27, 2018, 04:01:45 PM
To me it seemed very obvious just within the specs alone that it is indeed a scam.

However i created this thread to have other's opinion as well as preventing people from purchasing.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: mgoz on August 27, 2018, 07:28:23 PM
Name alone should give it away.  ;)

Their model looks like taped and glued together cardboard/styrofoam that's spraypainted black.

Quality Photoshopping here:

https://fulijuntuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/titan-hashingboard-top.jpg (https://fulijuntuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/titan-hashingboard-top.jpg)


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: HagssFIN on August 27, 2018, 07:32:35 PM
Well it is looking more and more like they are just a shitty scam.

Are those 'red cables' actually red shopping bag handles? :D
At least they look like it. Might also just be sprayed Antminer stuff.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on August 27, 2018, 07:45:53 PM
Yep.. confirmed scam  :D


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: suchmoon on August 27, 2018, 08:48:24 PM
Yeah it looks like 3 antminers painted black and taped together into this ridiculous shape.

This angle is interesting - what do those red cables connect to?

https://meem.link/i/v69u525i.png
Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

https://meem.link/i/a/L2tsdJ.jpg
Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

Or fan cables:

https://meem.link/i/a/SztWfc.jpg
Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on August 27, 2018, 10:02:50 PM
That is 3 antminer s3's junked together to look like this!
You can see where the have attempted to remove the antminer logo from the side the flakes of white are still showing..

infact.. I can 100% guarntee that is s3's
if anyone has one look at the cover plate on the fans and the shape of fans and screw types.

They are not the same on a S9,

100% S3's - Max 1.5 ish TH overclocked to hell no doubt.

Nice try.. Fail...

100% SCAM


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: sidehack on August 28, 2018, 12:36:47 PM
Might be S3 endplates for the fans, but it's S7 or S9 hashboards in the boxes. But hey, at least they tried to build a real-world machine to scam around instead of relying on stolen renders like most scammers. Shows a bit of initiative.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: philipma1957 on August 28, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
Might be S3 endplates for the fans, but it's S7 or S9 hashboards in the boxes. But hey, at least they tried to build a real-world machine to scam around instead of relying on stolen renders like most scammers. Shows a bit of initiative.

They  have a mine to our pool requirement  which I think means that they see your miner and add some hash to it to "show"  the good stats.

This seems to be  exactly what the water-cooled asicminer 40th at 2100 watt machine may be doing.

this is a thread on the asicminer 8 nano 40th 2100 watt miner.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4931395.msg44434150#msg44434150


it does this point miner to a special server site  which then point to a pool of your choice.

so a fraud can be done  by simply making the 'fake' miner with 4th and 2100  watts go to their server then add  36th  so the pool of your choice says you are mining 40th and your meter reads 2100 watts.

This gear may also do this.  Since it must point to their pool.

Pretty clever as it would show you 110th at the pool  .

This may be the new fraud faking hash rate to trick a guy with money to spend.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: minefarmbuy on August 29, 2018, 12:17:37 AM
LOL wow, I have some s7's I can paint to. The asicminer is a scam, sad to see Vosk sold out there. Rep is hard to build, getting it back practically impossible.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: Steamtyme on August 30, 2018, 03:07:28 PM
[...]

so a fraud can be done  by simply making the 'fake' miner with 4th and 2100  watts go to their server then add  36th  so the pool of your choice says you are mining 40th and your meter reads 2100 watts.

This gear may also do this.  Since it must point to their pool.

Pretty clever as it would show you 110th at the pool  .

This may be the new fraud faking hash rate to trick a guy with money to spend.

I don't see any indication that the 2 "legs" are connected in anyway other than the fan. If it does materialize it's more likely they threw on the 2 just for the sake of appearance, and the illusion of a big beefy machine full of power. That's all they would need to do with this variation of a "cloud mining" scam. Seems to me this is essentially a token machine you are receiving for buying a longterm mining contract, the consumer just doesn't know it.

I have to check into the Vosk thing, but do these "super" miners not have a local controller IP to log into to. It should be easy enough to see that the  machine is only putting out - X TH/S

There are a lot of people with money who just want to buy in while trying to future proof. Those are the people that stand to lose a large amount of money, because they don't know any better.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: philipma1957 on August 30, 2018, 10:08:58 PM
I don't see any indication that the 2 "legs" are connected in anyway other than the fan. If it does materialize it's more likely they threw on the 2 just for the sake of appearance, and the illusion of a big beefy machine full of power. That's all they would need to do with this variation of a "cloud mining" scam. Seems to me this is essentially a token machine you are receiving for buying a longterm mining contract, the consumer just doesn't know it.

I have to check into the Vosk thing, but do these "super" miners not have a local controller IP to log into to. It should be easy enough to see that the  machine is only putting out - X TH/S

There are a lot of people with money who just want to buy in while trying to future proof. Those are the people that stand to lose a large amount of money, because they don't know any better.

I have a guy with 100 megawatts to burn he is not even bothering to check them out.

The problem is they mine first to the server of asicminer  after that who knows what happens.

Vosk has had issues with one of the two products sent to him the Zec model stopped hashing in under 2 days.

The btc miner was still showing hash.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: suchmoon on August 30, 2018, 11:38:14 PM
I have a guy with 100 megawatts to burn he is not even bothering to check them out.

The problem is they mine first to the server of asicminer  after that who knows what happens.

Vosk has had issues with one of the two products sent to him the Zec model stopped hashing in under 2 days.

 The btc miner was still showing hash.

Seriously? He still has the video up on Youtube as if nothing happened.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: Steamtyme on August 30, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
Yeah I saw his post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4931395.msg44880410#msg44880410) in the thread you linked earlier. I haven't checked to see if he has a video up for the Zeon miner I would think he would say it there for sure, as it would be his review.

It would be nice to see it mentioned somewhere on the set up/nano video as well. Considering his view on them in that post.


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: philipma1957 on August 31, 2018, 01:00:16 AM
Seriously? He still has the video up on Youtube as if nothing happened.

he has a zec  and a btc somewhere  he said the zec was no longer working.

I think in alt coin thread here


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: throwaway2 on August 31, 2018, 01:22:37 AM
I hear they are super stackable...

 ::)


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: minefarmbuy on August 31, 2018, 04:59:07 AM
This strayed off to asicminer pretty easily. The video's are on their website with Vosk. I don't know him but it just makes things more intriguing because of the lack of review with the demo.

Essentially if you can't control these, titan and nano, their physically vaporware. You're buying the hash rate their promising to give you by plugging this in. You're better off buying hash online? Unless your cold to, just hope they stay in business or at least maintain the website to "route your hash". Real or not. Don't buy this.



Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on August 31, 2018, 11:28:38 AM
Yea you buy it point it at there pool then they fudge the numbers or point rentals to make up for the shoddy numbers.
This topic should be locked this is nothing more than a scam attempt..  that's failed.  :D


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: philipma1957 on September 04, 2018, 04:17:16 PM
The most efficient miner I have owned and tested is the Innosilicon  T2Turbo
I may be getting the whatsminer M10 in 2 weeks  it should be better.

I would not buy the Titan
I would not take a free demo of the Titan

since  it appears it does not mine stand alone. it mines to their pool


Title: Re: Fulijuntuan TITAN 110TH 3200watts 32watts/TH? Real or Not?
Post by: QuestionQuest on October 01, 2018, 10:44:43 PM
Dont kill me all like wolves - first: I dont believe in this "Unicorn" either, but ... the scam is done very well.

Why limit one per customer? I would sell 10 to anyone if its scam (on the one hand).
But the cables are funny. Even the painting is very bad.

But then I saw: What is a 51% attack :D
OK! 99,9999% SCAM. Just 0,0001% hope for those who ordered and payed already  8)