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Edit (December 28, 2018):
Now known as the Fusion Silicon X6 miner.
Specs are pretty much the same as presented earlier.

Product page: http://www.fusionsilicon.com/#/goodsDetails/X6 (http://www.fusionsilicon.com/#/goodsDetails/X6) (link updated in February 21, 2019)
(dead link) http://www.fusionsilicon.com/#/goodsDetails?productId=6 (http://www.fusionsilicon.com/#/goodsDetails?productId=6)

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Hello guys,
The miner manufacturing department is now separated from the parent/mother company BW.com,
and there is a new company called Fusion Silicon.
Cassie Cai, who is the director of international affairs for Fusion Silicon,
said that the new company is not related to the current BW.com company.

Fusion Silicon has a new Litecoin ASIC chip and a new Litecoin miner coming to the market and that is the main reason I started this new thread.

I have been in talks with Cassie about a possibility to do a miner review,
but it is not sure yet if it will be possible.

Cassie mentioned me earlier that they would launch this new miner this month.

Fusion Silicon L61 - 860 Mh/s, 1160 W Litecoin miner
• Hash rate: 860 Mh/s  +-5%
• Power consumption: 1160W  +  10%  (FS power supply unit –1600 Watt AC/DC efficiency  93
• Power efficiency: 1.349J/MH  +  10%  (Wall AC/DC  efficiency 93
• Nominal voltage: 12  ~  13 VDC
• Case dimension: 340mm  (L)  *  130mm  (W)  *  198mm  (H)
• Weight  (Packaging is inclusive):  xx  kg
• Working temperature: 0℃ ~ 40℃
• Working humidity: 5%RH  ~  95% RH
• Network: Ethernet
• Noise:xx  db 25C) 25℃)

• Method to connect power supply unit:3 PCIE connectors in each hash board are required to connect with power supply unit. It is recommended to use independent power supply unit to supply the miner. Under the circumstances of non-independent power supply,3 hash boards can connect to various PSUs respectively with only one PSU for one hash board and ensuring the hash board to be power on.

Cassie sent me this image and a technical specs data sheet.

http://i67.tinypic.com/20swt90.jpg

Here is the technical specs data sheet: https://mega.nz/#!gkNzlCTA!S1HcDRiALXYXTHNi3n3jYDZqRA9N2zpakfosIYv08oc (https://mega.nz/#!gkNzlCTA!S1HcDRiALXYXTHNi3n3jYDZqRA9N2zpakfosIYv08oc)

For any inquiries, I recommend to contact Cassie Cai (cassie.cai@fusionsilicon.com).

So 860 for 1160  is 1.3488 a mh

the L3+  with voltage mod from jstefanop  does.

490 for 700  or 1.4285 a mh

with out mod it does

500 for 800 or 1.600 a mh

So a few things are possible here  a voltage mod  that drops gear to

850 mh  for 1020 watts  or 1.2 watts a mh

or maybe a chip deal for Moonlander 3's

I would be interested in tweaking the new miner  to get more efficient  then

1.3488 watts a mh

Oh yeah.

Just to be clear, for those who don't know: This is kind of a successor for the BW.com BW-L21 Litecoin miner.

But Cassie said thay the design will be completely new and good quality.

I sent Cassie an email quite recently, but I haven't received a reply.

I remember not too long ago these threads were a mile long. Forum teaming with life. Big money pours in buys up the ASICS  then manufacturers start competing with each other.  What your left with is a bunch of bag holders and no one left with any vision. Not that many had any other visions than getting rich quick.  What you will start to see is fake fights within the devs so as to lead people on that it was a good thing they break up.  Stop being played people this is a money grab from the get go.  This system should have never been tied to money before it was ready.  It’s like opening up a business with a product you have yet to make.  Now everyone seems to judge success or not by the value of the coin vs whether or not it will have any real world use.  Traders pumping up price add in a little tech article or two and buyers beware.  Shitstorm a brewing!  There is a reason why regulation came about. Bacuase people just can’t seem to do to others the same as they expect done to them.  So there is always that one/group person that fucks it up so bad that the rest of us has to come in and regulate so as to keep them from doing harm to others.  Free market doesn’t work when you start the game with an advantage.  Again it’s like starting monopoly with billion dollars vs the rest of us plebs that usually start in debt.  Open source decentralized wealth transfer system only works when the playing field is leveled.  How that can ever come about I have no f ing idea. But at least the thought is there.  I know that it is necessary for this to ever succeed without dire unintended consequences.

BR

Yeah it seems almost like I was the first and only one to know this project. Would be nice if someone knows more about this, or have any comments, etc.

BW used to be a big manufacturer, but not many knew about them.
Fusion Silicon needs strong marketing to reach even that level or higher.

Dude  what is happening is very simple big money  is coming in  and buying cheap gear like the s-9,s-9i,s-9j, L3+

they have 3 and 4 cent power and they think they will earn profit

edit  bold : At this website  most people don't have 3 and 4 cent power and are being squeezed out.

^ True, and a good point.

Yeah I get a good deal with the solar array. , but it is  only 14-22 kwatts.

 This means I earn less,  but I  will always make money I can only lose if gear breaks.

But 22k-watts =  220th in summer

and 14k=watts = 140th in winter

I get ½  of that.

so 110th is about 889 usd a month

and 70th is about 564 usd a month

far less then  it was in dec or jan

even if I get  7 M10's  it will be 210 th  and 15kwatts winter

or 10 m10's it will be 330th and 22kwatts summer.

I've sent another email, but I haven't been able to reach Cassie yet.

No reply yet and no website online yet (fusionsilicon.com), I wonder if their plans are canceled.  :-\
I hope not.

It may be they decided the hash to power ratio is not good enough.

Yeah I agree with you Phil.



Still no news

Wow, even though I have not heard anything from Cassie,
it seems that they are out there making miners.

Quite interesting!

I can see Fusion Silicon X1, X6 and X7 miner models at their website.

The X6 miner product page is here: http://www.fusionsilicon.com/#/goodsDetails?productId=6 (http://www.fusionsilicon.com/#/goodsDetails?productId=6)

Fusion Silicon website: www.fusionsilicon.com (http://www.fusionsilicon.com)


I sent Cassie one more email,
I'll see if I'd get a reply.

looks like they got booted by Chinese Government cause they don't have a proper License.
(according to their Website)

Yeah, it seems that you need to have a ICP license
to have a right to operate your China -based  website in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICP_license (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICP_license)


This information on their website is new,
it was not visible during the time I posted earlier.

Their website seems to be up and running again.

Their website seems to be very slow to load.

Has anyone here ever held a FusionSilicon miner in their hands?

Is there any more info about this company?

Their website says the scrypt miner is sold out

 
 
I talked with Cassie tonight. She told me that the FusionSilicon FSMiner X7 (which mines the X11 algorithm) will be available at the end of March and there will be around 2000 units available.

They only have around 200 of the FusionSilicon FSMiner X1 (which mines the Lyra2rev2 algorithm) available right now.

I'll try to get more info from them.
 
 

 
I also found this "unboxing" / review of the X7 miner here: http://licaiker.com/showinfo-67-118585-0.html
 

Wow, I've tried reaching her many times,
but you were able to do it at first try.

 
This appears to be the bank to which a buyer of FusionSilicon miners would send their funds:

账户名称：信阳智慧云电子科技有限公司
银行账号：1718021119200050379
银行名称：中国工商银行信阳申城支行营业室

Translated by Yandex:

Account name: Xinyang wisdom cloud Electronic Technology Co., Ltd
Bank account number:1718021119200050379
Bank Name: industrial and Commercial Bank of China Xinyang shencheng branch office

As translated by Google:

Account Name: Xinyang Smart Cloud Electronic Technology Co., Ltd.
Bank account number: 1718021119200050379
Bank Name: Business Office of Xinhua Shencheng Sub-branch of Industrial and Commercial Bank of China
 
 
In talking further with a FusionSilicon representative, is was stated to me that this is the company address:

深圳市南山区深圳湾科技生态园10栋B座906B

This translates to:

906B, Block B, Building 10, Shenzhen Bay Science and Technology Park, Nanshan District, Shenzhen

 
I am told that Xinyang Smart Cloud Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. (信阳智慧云电子科技有限公司) is FusionSilicon's sales company. And, that Shenzhen Fusionsilicon Semiconductor Co., Ltd (深圳泛思半导体有限公司) is their R&D and production company.
 

Did you download the sales contract? Is that something that needs to be filled out? It's all in Chinese.

I didn’t see much of a contract. Can you upload a screenshot of it here?

I'm still a newbie. I cannot upload images yet.

Select this on the order menu.

https://imgur.com/hyz1OZt

Create order and go to check out screen

Click the download sales contract. It will download the PDF.

https://imgur.com/rRCFAqo


Not really sure how important this step may be. I would like to order some of these miners, but am nervous!!! Google offers a document translator and it seems like this contract does add at least an illusion of an agreement. It would still need to be honored. 

have you messaged anyone on wechat? I had a person named Fisher accept my friend request. I messaged them, but no response.

I’m in contact with Fisher and Cassie.

will you be ordering any miners? Can you ask them about the contract?

I did end up getting in touch with Cassie. She said she would send me an email from a @fusionsilicon.com address. I havent received it yet.

It would be interesting to test their miner or at least see some performance results if one of you guys get your handa on one.

The X7 gets between 255 ~270 GH/S
Making a shitload of noise

Cool, do you have one?

Pictures?

kinda thinking this will be the D3 all over again. Why wouldn't the difficulty just spike making these worthless?

they dont flood the market, price-tag still high..so not a lot of people will buy.

IMO - The only reason the market isn't flooded is because the coin is down in price and mining is not as appealing. There was a figure of 2000 miners being manufactured someone mentioned in a previous post. If that is a true figure someone can do a calculation on difficulty increase if all 2000 are released and turned on. I don't know how to figure that math out.

wow what a generic post. USB drivers? lol

Frankly I think that Frankly has no idea what he is talking about ;D

A bot trying to make fake posts to look legit maybe?

Since this statement makes no sense

That post is a literal copy and past from my Moonlander product page...wtf?

https://shop.futurebit.io/products/moonlander-2-usb-stick-asic-miner-for-scrypt-algorithm-cryptocurrencies

All brothers please be careful


this is scam site


www.fusionsilicon.org (http://www.fusionsilicon.org)

Thanks for sharing.

Their official website is www.fusionsilicon.com

EDIT:
It seems that Hyperbit is also selling Fusion Silicon hardware.
They used to sell BW.com hardware, like the BW-L21 Litecoin miner. www.hyperbitshop.io

Shit - I've been looking at the scam site. And now out of stock and not showing a price. What was the listed price?


/edit - and wrong thread - trying to find details for the x11 miner, model x7 if anyone cares to share...

fusionsilicon.com seems to be down for me at the moment.

So, hyperbitshop.io is legit?

Thanks
potificate

Hyperbit has been legit in the past, I have no recent experience with them.

Fusion Silicon website works ok for me.

Thanks on Hyperbit.

Weird about the Fusion Silicon site... is it possible that they are being blocked by north america? I still cannot get to it.

it's working than it's not. Try a bit later. I went to scam site and than back to official and it worked...  :'(

Hello. The hash rate is constantly falling for me, 1 card does not work at all on one ASIC. What to do, tell me? Have a firmware?

any word on fusion silicon being legit?

they are legit, X7 and X2 are legit. hashing as advertised

Scam.

with such the prices are exactly the scammers. How many people have been deceived on such sites, and the money is not small for these devices

www.fusionsilicon.tech is scam
i lost 3k .,....steel my mony.
I search on the net and 2 day not show on scam.... after i pay with coinbase market i see .