Bitcoin Forum

- Remember that Bitcoin has no correlation with any kind of commodity in technical analysis such as stocks, bonds, crude oil. Large banks and investment funds in the world have their own research team on the analysis of the currency.
- When you own a stock, you are holding a corporation in the flesh, when you own a bitcoin or other electronic currency, you have to accept a complete dependence on technology and algorithms. You can not complain about anyone because nobody is the owner, nobody is responsible for the goods you are holding.
- If the price of securities is impacted by macroeconomic, micro, market, brand, ... Bitcoin prices are easily shocked by a group of people who own large coin and terrible traditional.

I think that is exactly what happened, a lot of expert traders from stock players, moved to cryptocurrency because of greater profits
and I think, the way the price analysis done by crypto experts seems to be the same as stock experts

stock: no
asset: yes

if you own stock. you are registered as having a % representation of products total value that a company possesses. it does not mean you own that actual produce. you just own a percentage if a value that a company has.

this is why i think newbies and dumb finance wannabes try to hard to concetrate on meaningless things like market caps. bcause they just dont understand bitcoin.

1bitcoin is not 0.000004761905% of the bitcoin network
btc value is not measured as a market cap and sold off as percentages of market cap value either

bitcoin has a price per unit. and the bitcoin market cap is a meaningless math number that is not backed up by dollars.

bitcoin is an asset. when an asset is owned. its owned. its that simple. its not part of a corporations 'stock' its not a product warehouse of % ownership.  
1bitcoin is 1 bitcoin.

it is owned by whoever has the keys. there are no laws that force it to be sold on any particular exchange or having it forced to only be traded by licenced traders.
its just an asset. if you own it. you own it. no one can tell you what to do with it

yes, that could be a way to get into bitcoin investment.

it is misleading because you are focusing so hard on only a part of reality. for instance, it is true that when you own bitcoin you are relying on its technology and as a decentralized money, nobody is responsible if something goes wrong.
but at the same time this means there is no centralized authority to dictate and monitor or restrict every move you make. it also means bitcoin is open source and the technology is reviewed by literary anyone in the world who could and cared about looking at the code. and that makes it the safest technology there is.

regarding price and it being controlled you are again exaggerating the situation by a lot. there is manipulation in bitcoin market just as there is manipulation in any other market like stocks that you like to mention here. it is more because the market is small but price is NOT controlled in any way.

there is nothing similar between bitcoin and stock that you are trying to compare them. bitcoin is a currency and if you want to compare it then you should compare it with other currencies and if the market is your focus then compare it with the currency markets called Forex.

for example if you buy and hold JPY or USD or ... you are trusting the economy built with these currencies, and if that economy goes down the value of that currency goes down and vice versa. bitcoin can be seen the same too. there is a big economy build on top of bitcoin, all the big and small businesses for instance. from exchanges and payment processors, to gambling sites, mixers, and small merchants accepting bitcoin. as that economy grows the value of bitcoin grows with it. we saw one case last year with Japan as lots of merchants started accepting bitcoin and that economy grew and with it price went up.

regarding price and it being controlled you are again exaggerating the situation by a lot. there is manipulation in bitcoin market just as there is manipulation in any other market like stocks that you like to mention here. it is more because the market is small but price is NOT controlled in any way.

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You have misjudged my opinion  ;D , dear friend

We all humans have a great habit of saving money for their future generations  from a very ancient time and this habit is considered to be very good as they think for their budding generations , earlier people use to invest into gold and then comes the stock investment and this kind of investment is still going on and with this investing into stock, there is also bank investment and then comes the future investment, the crypto investment and this investment is much much beneficial than all other kind of investment so it cannot be compared with stock investment.

More of an asset rather than a stock, because definitions of each restricts bitcoin to act as both. Financial experts can alter what X could be used for even though X is good at something else, same with bitcoin, they can convince people that it is a great thing for something else when it's intended use actually differs from what it really is. However, I know for a fact that people, by now know what bitcoin is, and where it really excels at, so people cannot easily be fooled by the 'experts' and do their own thing for their own coins. Also, the governments have their own definitions of what bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are, and most people tend to listen closely to the government more than experts, so still, the use of bitcoin greatly varies due to opinions.

BTC is not at all like stock. Stock are bought from stock exchanges and they give the people a certain percentage of ownership in the company. Whereas BTC is a currency and has a means of store of value.

Bitcoin is certainly not a kind of stock.
It is a digital currency, which has the qualities of being open, decentralized, neutral, and independent of any human factor.
Hence you don't have to trust or depend on anyone apart from the technology.

I do Forex in the past trading and buying stocks, always checking chart for a good movement. Yes cryptocurrency or Bitcoin can be considered as stocks. Easiest to read once Bitcoin price collapse alt coin price follows. From that I would buy alt coins to hoard and sell once Bitcoin price recovers.

I think Bitcoin cannot be compared with stock market. Bitcoin is an asset. Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that runs on a blockchain technology. There are other currencies in the market also. So, comparing only Bitcoin to the stock market holds no value.

Actually bitcoin is a form of digital currency and it has also established itself as an investment tool. Since it has become a medium of investment so we can think this as a stock but it is not a stock completely. So while doing analysis you should be careful about this fact.

A bitcoin is more like an ounce of gold, and neither are like a share of a company. The major difference is that a company generates value by doing something productive. An asset such as a bitcoin does nothing productive and it cannot generate value. They are very different because the math is different.

BTW, this demonstrates the difference between an investor and a speculator. An investor buys an asset because it will increase in value as a result of doing productive work. A speculator buys an asset because it will increase in value as a result of changes in supply and demand. There are no Bitcoin investors; there are only Bitcoin speculators.

Inspite of being fluctuated BTC market price sometimes up and sometimes down. That's it's very tough to predict about it. Many company try to analyz it's market and  then the have some data predict about it's future market condition.

I believe that crypto-currencies will eventually be more like stocks when we have more institutional funds in them, when the bitcoin ETF is approved by SEC

Bitcoin is not related to stock as it is a kind of currency called crypto currency. The market for this coin is very much volatile. You can do analysis thinking it as stock but you need to be careful when analyzing. Do not rely on such analysis completely.

Yes! bitcoin going populer and trustworthiness among businessman as well as general people.The market value of bitcoin increasing day by day. So in this sence  , lot of traders trying to moved to cryptocurrency. And they gain high profit from it. So it seems that the way crypto are analyzing is like stock analysis.

Cryptocurrency market is like stock market, the features of stock market is definitely in there which makes the market fluctuations and manipulations but Bitcoin is not like stock. We are not getting a percentage of Satoshi's organization by any means. So, I think it is far different from that.

Stock is like gathering someting. Real that mean current currency are analysed as stock. there are also many stock market of current currencies. But i think when bitcoin will be more populer, it also will be analysed as like stock.

I think you can analyze Bitcoin the way you analyze a stock in the stock market (it´s not one though), or even an asset as gold, silver or another commodity. It fluctuates more because it usually goes for a different setting but when come to the market is always governed by offer and demand bitcoin will follow some trends and some movements as the stock market does, mainly because those who are the market makers are those who are coming from the stock and investment market.

It’s a true fact that bitcoin can be analyzed as stock . Those who are stock players can use it and it will be profitable. The analyze on this fact can be done.

Actually, until now, bitcoin is still a very big ambiguous when you say that bitcoin has no owner because in its logic there must be a bitcoin originator and it must be the owner. it's impossible to move alone. And that will always be a polemic when in the future this cannot be revealed.

we must be able to think relevant about this. when you really want to go into the world of trading, you have to think correctly about what you are doing is right or not, both in terms of analysis, your financial management.

Technical analysis can be used in any market. Its statistic market movement behaviour. Some technical analysis works and some dont but its can used for bitcoin. We buying bitcoin because we believe bitcoin is new economy system and trusted network

it is absolutely true and that is one of the differences between stocks and bitcoin, and I think bitcoin can be controlled by a group of people who have a very large amount of bitcoin.

You can compare Bitcoin as a money , asset but not stock.

maybe in my opinion bitcoin can also be said to be savings or capital stock by keeping hold and selling with profit, that is in my mind

Yes I think so , That is why everyone should know that there is a risk of losing before investing.
It should make investments that will not force life conditions.
Gambling  should not play!

I understand that stocks are goods or merchandise kept in a place which is ready for sale or distribution. In my point of view, I would say that bitcoin is not a kind of stock. It's an asset. An asset in the sense that it is a valuable thing kept in a wallet for a quite some time to earn profits in the long the run.

There are many technical analysis tool and the profesionally analyz BTC depends on their several tools. They try to get better market sentiment of BTC and try to have better understanding with it's fluctuation then wisely analysis it's future market.

Definitely right, we considered bitcoin as a assets nor stocks. Assets that we can own with 100% of our profit because stocks is only limited and like what you'd said it has only a % portion that's why a lot of traders are probably goes to bitcoin system than to other trading option because they can possibly own or earn double of triple or much more profit than they earn in some other tradings. However, it is much risky than ordinary tradings but the good things in bitcoin trading we can earn much higher percentage in much easiest and fastest way so bitcoin can be considered as assets.

that's right bro. even some people in my area say we are investing in bitcoin or altcoin just like we are investing in a stock that we cannot determine and can be long term, short and we can take it anytime

no I don't think so,  you are just mixing up to complete different things two is very different from each other you have to understand it that bitcoin doesn't have any value on the outside world but stock money has that

Having a Bitcoin is like holding gold, you don't really know when the price will go up or see a slump. So, Bitcoin is more appropriate as an asset rather than a stock. Just like the manipulation of gold market, Bitcoin market also sees sharks trying to make huge profit by making others fools.

I guess you have misunderstood the idea of a stock completely. Owning a stock indicates that you own a percentage of any company or organization but in case of Bitcoin we are not buying ownership of an organization rather a coin or a portion of it.

I am not sure if stocks can actually be analyzed or even classified. I believe that stocks are actually part of a business share or part in a percentage from a certain company. What could possibly be concrete here is to know whether you are having one or a percentage on it.

It’s true that bitcoin holders totally depends on the technology for their assets. But there are many advantages that you cannot find holding a stock of a company. You don’t have to answer anyone for your actions and there is huge profit than stocks.

Bitcoin is a fluctuated crypto. So it's not easy to analyz it butb many experts done it nicely by analyzing some factor. Sometimes the also wrong with their analysis.

Yes, this is the kind of stock other stock players invest in bitcoin because of their good benefits and great demands now.

It can also be a stock, as you continue to explore crypto currency we have a real bitcoin thing which is called as cascascius coin (correct me if i am wrong)  the value is keeping and getting stronger as days goes by,  check inthe auction section there are many money players looking for that one of a kind coin.  

Analysts have done more research on bitcoin than stocks of companies. It is way much profitable than stocks offered in the market. the core drawback you can say about bitcoin is that users have to totally rely on technology and a group of people with huge bitcoins can control the prices.

isn't it clear from the past that the fluctuations in bitcoin are indeed true, some people are not thinking about how to do financial management in this crypto, because especially in this case there are differences between stocks and crypto

Stock and Bitcoin are different is many ways. But some similarities have grown between these two because of the way people are trying to take advantage of BTC. Stock is about owning company but BTC is an asset.

Bitcoin and stocks are totally different things. I don't think there are any reason to compare them. By the way bitcoin is decentralized but still i think it can be manipulated by people who has a big amount of bitcoin.

Yes. This is really happens in crypto market, if I own a coin of any digital currency so I am the only owner of that currency no one to blame I have to have faith on the situation and fate.  The analysis of crypto market have consistency  with other generel world market  so it it bit hard to understand but many many experts are working on the numbers to get us the data.

Bitcoin is experiencing the environment of a stock market because of the price index and the way people are using Bitcoin to make profit. But there is always difference stock and Bitcoin in their nature.

The way many people have been treating Bitcoin is seemed like stock but it is actually not. This is a virtual currency which is totally dependent on the technology and algorithm. But stock is a share of ownership in paper based form.

Yeah it is true. That's why many people are thinking that bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies are more profitable than stocks. For this reason many people are moving into this cryptoworld.

I think bitcoin and stock has different concepts. They have their own uniqueness, benefits and drawbacks. But as a crypto lover i think that bitcoin is far better than stocks and i hope it will have better future.

I will say bitcoin is an asset rather calling it as a stock. When you hold bitcoin you become the owner of it, there is no share or percentage issues. So it becomes completely your property which we mean as an asset.

Yeah it’s right. I agree with this. They are pretty much similar and that’s why many traders from stock are joining here as there is much more profit than stock and the strategy of analyzing is also similar.

You can analyze bitcoin as a kind of stock, or other altcoins as well, but the price of stocks is i think far stable than the price of cryptocurrency.
The bitcoin ETF news was believed as a reason for the falling of altcoin price, while bitcoin price still stable around $6900 - $7000++.

Investment history is very long, people used to invest in gold and then investment in stocks and investments of this kind continued and with this investment in stocks, there is also investment in banks and then future investments, crypto investments and investments are far more useful than all other types of investments so that they cannot be compared with investment stocks.

I think that this is all and goes to the recognition of bitcoin as a valuable asset, which is not oil and not stock, but something in between. A digital asset that has its price, value and significance. I believe that very soon many will switch to such a formulation of bitcoin. But it's definitely not a currency

First of all, Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency like other currencies. The similarity between bitcoin and stock is that both are tradable. But the most difference is that bitcoin has no authority to restrict you or manipulate the market. On the other hand, the stock market has an authority that can monitor and obviously sometimes restrict and manipulate the market.

It's not easy to analyze it but many experts make it unique by analyzing a number of factors. It can also be a stock, as you continue to explore electronic money, we have a real bitcoin called cascascius (true to me if I'm wrong) values are holding and increasingly stronger, Check out the auction section where a lot of money players look for one of these types of coins. That's way more profitable than stocks offered in the market.

Yes it is true. Bitcoin relies to its technology, it means no one knows who are behind them when something wrong happened. Bitcoin is a decentralized money or asset remember? No investment can be compared with this investment. Because the goal of this investment is for you to have a better life sooner or later. It is more like a precious jewelry that as the time goes by, its price goes up and up. But nothing's sure here in the cryptocurrency world, if you want to get a good profit, you must believe.

I think that btc could still be just like a stock market where there is an up and down trends. Most probably, the only difference is that stock markets are into fiat currency while btc and other alts were all digital currency. Another comparison between btc against the stock market is that btc market has been very volatile and the changes is drastic and fast moving. BTC should be invested for long term where there is a great potential return of investment in the future.

Actually it really runs just like  stock exchange. Cryptocurrency is the virtual version of stoch exchange of every country. Just like it, it follows rules and regulations. Crypto depends on how the users do the trading just like stock the price really depends on how they sell it. Maybe the price value very different but still it is thee same on other ways.

Probably this is a wrong comparison, it would be more correct to compare with gold and jewels, but other coins issued by the projects will be like stocks.

There are different with stocks because stocks are stable price compare to bitcoin and also bitcoin could give you a profit in comes on long term investment.