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Title: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: Frodek on October 27, 2011, 01:48:41 PM
Can't withdraw Solidcoins from trade:
"Withdraw Solidcoins
There is currently a bug in the Solidcoin 2.01 Beta 7 (and probably 8, too) that affects the send SLC API call. The SC developer is aware of it and is working on a fix. Until then SLC withdrawals are disabled. Thanks for your patience!"

When it will correct?


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: Bobnova on October 27, 2011, 02:33:42 PM
Wow, I'm glad all RS/CH's releases are "properly tested".


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 27, 2011, 03:19:00 PM
All hail the superiority of rushed, closed source code.


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 03:19:50 PM
The releases are clearly labeled "beta", I hope everybody knows what that means  ;)


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: makomk on October 27, 2011, 04:10:35 PM
The releases are clearly labeled "beta", I hope everybody knows what that means  ;)
They may be labeled "beta", but it seems to be recommended that everyone uses them. From what I've heard, the last non-beta release may not even be able to update its blockchain anymore.


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: 3phase on October 27, 2011, 04:25:54 PM
A cryptocurrency client that loses transactions and funds would fit better in the "alpha" category. With a large red letter disclaimer before downloading it.


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 05:05:02 PM
This isn't a bug, this is Coinhunter locking down the wallets to slow Solidcoin down.

Why should he slow down SC? New beta with fixed transactions is already out...


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: randomguy7 on October 27, 2011, 05:09:21 PM
This isn't a bug, this is Coinhunter locking down the wallets to slow Solidcoin down.

Why should he slow down SC? New beta with fixed transactions is already out...

Why should he do all the other stupid things he does?


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: localhost on October 27, 2011, 05:59:51 PM
Why should he do all the other stupid things he does?
Because that's exactly what his fanboys like.
"Withdraw Solidcoins
There is currently a bug in the Solidcoin 2.01 Beta 7 (and probably 8, too) that affects the send SLC API call. The SC developer is aware of it and is working on a fix. Until then SLC withdrawals are disabled. Thanks for your patience!"
At least now we know how many people the development team contains...


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: coblee on October 27, 2011, 06:15:51 PM
At least now we know how many people the development team contains...

There's nothing inherently wrong with having only one active developer (I'm the only active developer for Litecoin).
Here's what's really bad though:
- RealSollid thinks he's a super advanced coder and thinks he can do no wrong
- he works on a closed source project by himself without any input or supervision
- he releases hasty untested buggy releases (a lot of times to patch up previous bugs)
- his project controls a lot of real money, so any transaction related bug can be devastating for users
- and lastly, users are forced to use his latest untested elease because his trusted nodes effectively rejects clients that are not on the latest client.

Really, this is just asking for trouble. Bitcoin developers spend months testing anything that could potentially be harmful to users, because they know that they are working on a critical financial software that affects millions of real dollars.

The releases are clearly labeled "beta", I hope everybody knows what that means  ;)

Spacy, it doesn't matter if you label it "beta" or even "alpha" if all users are forced to use the latest client. With Bitcoin (and Litecoin), users are not forced to use the latest beta release if they are not comfortable with the beta quality. They can still use the previous stable release if they want.

Agreed... BUT since the coin is already being traded on exchanges etc. right now then it is a LOT less beta and a lot more live no matter what the client is labeled.  Perhaps someone should request the exchanges to pull SC until we go to "live" clients?  And not worry about coin generate changes that are based more directly on exchange prices?

viperjbm, hopefully you are realizing how bad the situation with SolidCoin can become. Sure a competent and benevolent dictator may be good, but if you find out that the dictator is not really benevolent nor competent, it's too late.


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: localhost on October 27, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
At least now we know how many people the development team contains...

There's nothing inherently wrong with having only one active developer (I'm the only active developer for Litecoin).
Here's what's really bad though:
- RealSollid thinks he's a super advanced coder and thinks he can do no wrong
- he works on a closed source project by himself without any input or supervision
- he releases hasty untested buggy releases (a lot of times to patch up previous bugs)
- his project controls a lot of real money, so any transaction related bug can be devastating for users
- and lastly, users are forced to use his latest untested elease because his trusted nodes effectively rejects clients that are not on the latest client.

Really, this is just asking for trouble. Bitcoin developers spend months testing anything that could potentially be harmful to users, because they know that they are working on a critical financial software that affects millions of real dollars.
You forgot about the massive economy changes every other week ;) But yes indeed I was thinking about the combination of one-person dev "team" plus close-source thing. (= if the dev vanishes, so do the chances to carry on from where he left)


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: coblee on October 27, 2011, 06:32:48 PM
You forgot about the massive economy changes every other week ;) But yes indeed I was thinking about the combination of one-person dev "team" plus close-source thing. (= if the dev vanishes, so do the chances to carry on from where he left)

Yeah I forgot to add:
- he makes rash massive economy changes to the coin without any open discussions about the reasons and the consequences of his changes

And if he disappears, all the money you've invested in SolidCoin goes poof. Think about that!
I can disappear, and someone would just take over the development of Litecoin. Gavin and gang could disappear, and Bitcoin will still be ok. Checkout what Gavin said in another thread:

CoinHunter, what will happen to SolidCoin if, God forbid, you get hit by a bus? What are the plans for the trusted CPF wallets? Do your heirs get control of them?

If CoinHunter/RealSolid gets hit by a bus, SolidCoin will be pretty much dead in the water.


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: Spacy on October 27, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
If CoinHunter/RealSolid gets hit by a bus, SolidCoin will be pretty much dead in the water.

Not necessarely, some people have already the source code and also some trusted address wallets...


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: johnj on October 27, 2011, 06:59:42 PM
If you're having transaction problems, I feel bad for you son...

... I got 99 problems but a SolidCoin aint one.

 8)


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: coblee on October 27, 2011, 07:09:19 PM
If you're having transaction problems, I feel bad for you son...

... I got 99 problems but a SolidCoin aint one.

 8)

I wish I could check out the source code. I would love to know what caused these transaction problems. I have a feeling that it's ArtForz/BCX targeted transaction killing code that's affecting more people than RealSolid intended. But that's just a hunch. I guess I will likely never know the real reason.


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: johnj on October 28, 2011, 02:06:09 AM
Coinotrons stat page still has bold red warning text about SC payouts.

Also, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50016.msg596656#msg596656


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: Spacy on October 28, 2011, 06:27:25 AM
Coinotrons stat page still has bold red warning text about SC payouts.

Also, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50016.msg596656#msg596656

Coinotron payment came through to my account with no problems, do you have any problems with Coinotron?


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: penix on October 28, 2011, 10:45:25 PM
This software is awfully buggy for something that is supposedly "ready for (the) Bitcoin collapse".


Title: Re: Can't withdraw Solidcoins
Post by: panerai on October 29, 2011, 05:15:23 PM
if exchanges, pools, and every user has to update their software everytime there's a bug (which appears to be awefully often), admins are going to get tired of having update everytime, they'll give up. Stick with with stable Alt coins like LTC.


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