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Title: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: I.Goldstein on October 28, 2011, 12:06:39 AM
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Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: evoorhees on October 28, 2011, 01:32:34 AM
That is perfect!  Just posted on FB


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: onesalt on October 28, 2011, 01:35:18 AM
This is not how a venne diagram works. Posting this publically will make people thing you were dropped on your head as a child.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: JeffK on October 28, 2011, 02:21:46 AM
Tea party is single issue: black man in white house.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: I.Goldstein on October 28, 2011, 02:26:20 AM
Tea party is single issue: black man in white house.
Heh, if that is a fact, then I don't know how their current obsession with Mr. Cain is possible.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: JeffK on October 28, 2011, 02:28:09 AM
Tea party is single issue: black man in white house.
Heh, if that is a fact, then I don't know how their current obsession with Mr. Cain is possible.

Cain is willing to throw all other minorities besides him under the bus by gutting the services that help them and raising their taxes for the Presidency, which is good enough for them.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Bimmerhead on October 28, 2011, 02:43:10 AM
Tea party is single issue: black man in white house.
Heh, if that is a fact, then I don't know how their current obsession with Mr. Cain is possible.

Cain is willing to throw all other minorities besides him under the bus by gutting the services that help them and raising their taxes for the Presidency, which is good enough for them.

So in fact the single issue is: socialist in white house. 

Which is what they've been saying all along. 

But your talking points tell you to yell 'racist' to shut down the conversation.  And you obediently comply.



Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: JeffK on October 28, 2011, 02:49:46 AM
Tea party is single issue: black man in white house.
Heh, if that is a fact, then I don't know how their current obsession with Mr. Cain is possible.

Cain is willing to throw all other minorities besides him under the bus by gutting the services that help them and raising their taxes for the Presidency, which is good enough for them.

So in fact the single issue is: socialist in white house. 

Which is what they've been saying all along. 

But your talking points tell you to yell 'racist' to shut down the conversation.  And you obediently comply.



Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Minsc on October 28, 2011, 02:54:55 AM
I've seen cartoons saying this before.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Red on October 28, 2011, 02:57:42 AM
Has anyone every researched Herman Cain?

He has a degree in computer science. He is probably the only candidate capable of understanding bitcoin.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: I.Goldstein on October 28, 2011, 03:16:53 AM
Has anyone every researched Herman Cain?

He has a degree in computer science. He is probably the only candidate capable of understanding bitcoin.


He is an intelligent man. Possibly connivingly intelligent. His internal campaign memos say to only speak to him when spoken to.

The guy came out of nowhere in terms of media publicity and his history goes back to The Federal Reserve. I have good reason to suspect he's a direct puppet of the banks especially with his VAT plan that he avoids with semantics.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Bimmerhead on October 28, 2011, 03:18:09 AM

Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

Great!  Then you won't mind if we vote for Herman Cain, who is also to the right of George Bush.

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Has anyone every researched Herman Cain?

He has a degree in computer science. He is probably the only candidate capable of understanding bitcoin.

He has an impressive and eclectic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain) resume that includes just about everything except community activism.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Red on October 28, 2011, 04:29:45 AM
Great!  Then you won't mind if we vote for Herman Cain, who is also to the right of George Bush.

I won't mind! I'll vote for him and I'm a racist tea partier!

He has an impressive and eclectic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain) resume that includes just about everything except community activism.

For anyone who thinks he came out of no where, here is Herman Cain and Bill Clinton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WP5dYfBBzU&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: rainingbitcoins on October 28, 2011, 04:56:27 AM

Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

Great!  Then you won't mind if we vote for Herman Cain, who is also to the right of George Bush.

Hey, I don't think you answered his question at all. Must have been an oversight.

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Has anyone every researched Herman Cain?

He has a degree in computer science. He is probably the only candidate capable of understanding bitcoin.

He has an impressive and eclectic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain) resume that includes just about everything except community activism.

His impressive and electic resume includes being a Koch brothers whore for a number of years, and also cutting Godfather's Pizza from 900 stores to 400.

Let's bring back the jobs by electing the guy whose major accomplishment in life was cutting thousands of them! Also let's jack taxes way the fuck up on the poor and slash them for the rich! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: JeffK on October 28, 2011, 05:23:34 AM

Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

Great!  Then you won't mind if we vote for Herman Cain, who is also to the right of George Bush.

Hey, I don't think you answered his question at all. Must have been an oversight.

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Has anyone every researched Herman Cain?

He has a degree in computer science. He is probably the only candidate capable of understanding bitcoin.

He has an impressive and eclectic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain) resume that includes just about everything except community activism.

His impressive and electic resume includes being a Koch brothers whore for a number of years, and also cutting Godfather's Pizza from 900 stores to 400.

Let's bring back the jobs by electing the guy whose major accomplishment in life was cutting thousands of them! Also let's jack taxes way the fuck up on the poor and slash them for the rich! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

For anyone wondering, this is basically Romney's story as well


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Red on October 28, 2011, 05:53:01 AM
His impressive and electic resume includes being a Koch brothers whore for a number of years, and also cutting Godfather's Pizza from 900 stores to 400.

Let's bring back the jobs by electing the guy whose major accomplishment in life was cutting thousands of them! Also let's jack taxes way the fuck up on the poor and slash them for the rich! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

Laughing my ass off!

Surprise! The guy who started out poorer than you. More oppressed than you. Then grew, in spite of all that, to be more successful than you. Has a different opinion than you of how the world actually works.

I'm sure he hates poor people the elitist bastard!

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Herman Cain was born in Memphis, Tennessee, to Lenora Caine (née Davis), a cleaning woman and domestic worker, and Luther Cain, Jr., who was raised on a farm and worked as a barber and janitor, as well as a chauffeur for Coca-Cola president Robert Woodruff. Cain has said that as he was growing up, his family was "poor" but "happy". Cain related that his mother taught him about her belief that "success was not a function of what you start out with materially, but what you start out with spiritually". His father worked three jobs to own his own home — something he achieved during Cain's childhood — and to see his two sons graduate.[12][13][7]
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At age 36, Cain was assigned in the 1980s first to analyze and ultimately to take the reins of Burger King, where he managed 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. At the time, Burger King was a Pillsbury subsidiary. Under Cain's leadership his region went, in three years, from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable.[citation needed] According to a 1987 account in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Pillsbury's then-president Win Wallin said, "He was an excellent bet. Herman always seemed to have his act together."[32] At Burger King, Cain "established the BEAMER program, which taught our employees, mostly teenagers, how to make our patrons smile" by smiling themselves. It was a success: "Within three months of the program's initiation, the sales trend was moving steadily higher."[33]

His successes at Burger King prompted Pillsbury to appoint him president and CEO of another subsidiary, Godfather's Pizza. Cain arrived on April 1, 1986, and told employees, "I'm Herman Cain and this ain't no April Fool's joke. We are not dead. Our objective is to prove to Pillsbury and everyone else that we will survive."[34] Cain, over a 30-month period, reduced the company from 640 stores to 563[35] . As a result of his efforts, Godfather's Pizza sales were reduced from $275 million in 1986 to $242.5 million in 1988[35]. Godfather's Pizza was performing poorly, and had slipped in ranks of pizza chains from 3rd in 1985 to fifth in 1988 [36]. In a leveraged buyout in 1988, Cain, Executive Vice-President and COO Ronald B. Gartlan and a group of investors, bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Godfather's sales remained level with Cain as CEO, ending at $265 million for 540 stores in 1996[35], when he resigned. [37].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: rainingbitcoins on October 28, 2011, 06:02:58 AM
Yes, someone whose campaign is built around a tax plan that fucks (http://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/oct/21/cains-9-9-9-tax-plan-hits-poor-helps-wealthy-exper/?partner=RSS) the poor (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/cains-9-9-9-plan-hits-poor-blows-up-deficit.php), rewards the rich even more than they already are, and will generate so little revenue that slashing the only programs keeping poor people fed and off the streets will look like an even more attractive option to a Congress that wants to do that anyway? I can't imagine how that guy could hate the poor! He used to be poor! Checkmate!

Actually, you know which guy in a rich neighborhood hates the poor the most? The guy who used to be one and wants to distance himself from that image in the minds of his rich friends.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Red on October 28, 2011, 06:22:49 AM
Obviously he hates the poor... He gave up being one!


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Minsc on October 28, 2011, 07:57:29 AM
The Federal Reserve and Big Banks are the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Bimmerhead on October 28, 2011, 12:25:11 PM

Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

Great!  Then you won't mind if we vote for Herman Cain, who is also to the right of George Bush.

Hey, I don't think you answered his question at all. Must have been an oversight.


His statement was so ridiculous I didn't realize others would actually think it had merit.  So for those of you reading this thread from Zuccatti Park, the following actions by the man you elected would be considered socialist:

-nationalizing Chrysler
-nationalizing General Motors
-individual healthcare mandate

Those are three pretty big ones.  And never mind the appointment of radicals throughout the administration and the left-wing social policies such as going to war against Arizona's attempt to bring order to immigration in the state.

Of course you'll respond with 'he's not a socialist, he's a fascist', but fascism is just another form of socialism.  And maybe Bush was that type of socialist too.  Who cares?  No one here is defending Bush.  He would be yours to defend.

What's pathetic is that anybody still believes socialism is a viable solution to anything.  Name one jurisdiction where socialism has done a better job than capitalism at elevating people out of poverty.  North Korea over South Korea?  East Germany over West Germany?  Sweden over Switzerland?  Pre-1980 China over present-day China?

Socialism enslaves, both figuratively (America's inner cities) and literally (USSR, Poland, Hungary etc. etc.).  How socialists sleep at night, having foisted such a soul-destroying forumulation on people, is beyond me.  They seem to think the world is their laboratory and we are just lab animals to be used in whatever evil experiment their minds can devise.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: FredericBastiat on October 28, 2011, 05:45:06 PM

Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

I hope you're kidding. What hasn't both of them done, in almost every case, that didn't happen to be Socialist?

Every policy and almost every word coming out of both of their mouths has been Socialist, if not Fascist. Give them 5 minutes at the podium and you can see that one.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: rainingbitcoins on October 29, 2011, 05:42:48 AM

Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

Great!  Then you won't mind if we vote for Herman Cain, who is also to the right of George Bush.

Hey, I don't think you answered his question at all. Must have been an oversight.


His statement was so ridiculous I didn't realize others would actually think it had merit.  So for those of you reading this thread from Zuccatti Park, the following actions by the man you elected would be considered socialist:

-nationalizing Chrysler
-nationalizing General Motors
-individual healthcare mandate

A socialist would have nationalized successful industries, not bailed out failing ones.  A socialist would have mandated government provided health care, not forced people to buy insurance from private corporations.

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Those are three pretty big ones.  And never mind the appointment of radicals throughout the administration

You're talking about his socialist cabinet of socialist Goldman Sachs execs here?

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and the left-wing social policies such as going to war against Arizona's attempt to bring order to immigration in the state.

Oh, okay, I get it now. Any vaguely liberal policy is an example of socialism. By this logic, Reagan granting amnesty to three million illegal immigrants in the '80s must make him a super duper Marxist-Leninist.

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Of course you'll respond with 'he's not a socialist, he's a fascist', but fascism is just another form of socialism.

Haha yeah okay, Mr. Beck. Jesus fucking Christ. Take this theory to literally any political science or history professor in the world and see what he says. But I guess they're part of the ivory tower socialist conspiracy as well. Personally, I only trust former morning zoo DJs on matters of this importance.

Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Red on October 29, 2011, 05:43:30 PM
Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.

It tells me they are a bunch of racist bastards! I bet there are no black people at their rallies either!

(Sarcasm) [Juxtaposition of the Tea Party and Socialists in order to highlight the perils of using induction to extract motives from arbitrarily chosen examples] Annotated for the thinking impaired.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: crawdaddy on October 31, 2011, 10:31:49 AM
Has anyone every researched Herman Cain?

He has a degree in computer science. He is probably the only candidate capable of understanding bitcoin.


He also part of the FED at one point, so I don't he would support bitcoin!



Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Minsc on October 31, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
It tells me they are a bunch of racist bastards! I bet there are no black people at their rallies either!

Obama is only part black.  All the US presidents have had the same ancestry.  David Icke has details of it somewhere on the internet.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Red on October 31, 2011, 11:03:15 PM
He also part of the FED at one point, so I don't he would support bitcoin!

Sounds like a Halloween story... He was my neighbor and seemed like a nice guy, then I found out it was all a cover story. He was secretly a Federal Reserve chairman! When little kids came to his house for halloween, he didn't give out any commodity candy! Instead he handed out worthless Federal Reserve Notes!!!! Aaaahhhhhh!


Obama is only part black.  All the US presidents have had the same ancestry.  David Icke has details of it somewhere on the internet.

I live in a society for which there is no hope. Re-read the bit above about annotated sarcasm.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: rainingbitcoins on November 01, 2011, 03:35:11 AM
I live in a society for which there is no hope. Re-read the bit above about annotated sarcasm.

In a fight between hope and crazy, crazy wins every time.

This theory also explains the current field of GOP candidates.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: FredericBastiat on November 01, 2011, 03:35:17 PM
A socialist would have nationalized successful industries, not bailed out failing ones.  A socialist would have mandated government provided health care, not forced people to buy insurance from private corporations.

A socialist does both of those but for different reasons. Mandating and forcing are synonymous with initiating aggression, so neither option is nice.

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Oh, okay, I get it now. Any vaguely liberal policy is an example of socialism. By this logic, Reagan granting amnesty to three million illegal immigrants in the '80s must make him a super duper Marxist-Leninist.

Glad to see you're catching on. However, Reagan granting amnesty to immigrants is a violation of the U.S. Constitution, so while it may not be socialist per se, it was a violation of his oath of office. He lives in the Executive branch of government not the Legislative (read Article 1 Sec. 8 Clause 3). My personal opinion is that nobody should grant access to other people's property if it isn't theirs. Tragedy of the commons issue again.

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Take this theory to literally any political science or history professor in the world and see what he says. But I guess they're part of the ivory tower socialist conspiracy as well. Personally, I only trust former morning zoo DJs on matters of this importance.

Why should anybody trust a political science professor? Most of them are supported by the state. That would be called legal plunder. Nothing conspiratorial really, just your regular vanilla theft disguised as legal "higher education". None of them are going to risk their jobs, pensions, or tenure to tell the truth. No need to consult a DJ, just follow the proverbial bread crumbs. It's a who dunnit mystery a 13 yr old could follow.

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Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.

Perhaps there is no honor among thieves?


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: Jalum on November 01, 2011, 03:43:15 PM
A socialist would have nationalized successful industries, not bailed out failing ones.  A socialist would have mandated government provided health care, not forced people to buy insurance from private corporations.

A socialist does both of those but for different reasons. Mandating and forcing are synonymous with initiating aggression, so neither option is nice.

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Oh, okay, I get it now. Any vaguely liberal policy is an example of socialism. By this logic, Reagan granting amnesty to three million illegal immigrants in the '80s must make him a super duper Marxist-Leninist.

Glad to see you're catching on. However, Reagan granting amnesty to immigrants is a violation of the U.S. Constitution, so while it may not be socialist per se, it was a violation of his oath of office. He lives in the Executive branch of government not the Legislative (read Article 1 Sec. 8 Clause 3). My personal opinion is that nobody should grant access to other people's property if it isn't theirs. Tragedy of the commons issue again.

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Take this theory to literally any political science or history professor in the world and see what he says. But I guess they're part of the ivory tower socialist conspiracy as well. Personally, I only trust former morning zoo DJs on matters of this importance.

Why should anybody trust a political science professor? Most of them are supported by the state. That would be called legal plunder. Nothing conspiratorial really, just your regular vanilla theft disguised as legal "higher education". None of them are going to risk their jobs, pensions, or tenure to tell the truth. No need to consult a DJ, just follow the proverbial bread crumbs. It's a who dunnit mystery a 13 yr old could follow.

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Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.

Perhaps there is no honor among thieves?

Aww, lookit this cute little selective reader.  The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: FredericBastiat on November 01, 2011, 03:58:39 PM
Aww, lookit this cute little selective reader.  The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

I just responded to the comments as written. What in there constituted cognitive dissonance? I thought I was fairly consistent, unless the commenter was just joking, in which case. Ha Ha, oh so funny? Moving on I guess.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: deepceleron on November 01, 2011, 04:14:42 PM
This is not how a venne diagram works. Posting this publically will make people thing you were dropped on your head as a child.
http://dj.pdxweb.net/images/20111101091350_venn1.png


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: rainingbitcoins on November 01, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
Glad to see you're catching on.

The John Birch Society wants you back. There's a Communist water fluoridation scheme that you need to foil.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: FredericBastiat on November 01, 2011, 06:03:52 PM
Glad to see you're catching on.

The John Birch Society wants you back. There's a Communist water fluoridation scheme that you need to foil.

I'm, in fact, already a card-carrying member. I've got bigger fish to fry than water fluoridation, but nevertheless would prefer that my water be pure H20, in addition to the water plant being privately owned. But you know, I can only hope.


Title: Re: OWS Vs. Tea Party
Post by: someotherguy on November 05, 2011, 02:17:50 PM
Tea party is single issue: black man in white house.

I think there is a 95% chance he gets his info from what he sees on TV and reads on Media Matters.