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Title: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: matthewoz101 on September 05, 2018, 05:22:05 PM
I've decided to take leveling up from Jr. memebr to member more seriously.

I want to know: Do I have a more likely chance of getting merit by posting on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies? If some replies have already been merited, do I have a greater chance of getting merit by responding to that topic or not?

I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: inPRIVACYweBELIEVE on September 05, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
...on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies?...
I am gonna tell you the SECRET now but before I do that, I would like you to promise that you will not share this secret with anyone else except the visitors on this topic.

In addition to 1-3 and 6-10+, reply the topics which have exactly 0 and  4-5 replies too  :)


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 05, 2018, 05:30:39 PM
You seem to post primarily in Speculation and Trading Discussion, and I'm not sure if those sections have a lot of merit sources looking at posts there.  In addition, there are a lot of shitposts there so if you make a good post it's likely that it's going to get buried under a mountain of idiotic shitposts within minutes--so your good post won't get seen, much less read or merited. 

It's been suggested many times here that posting in spammy sections lowers your chances of getting merited.  That's absolutely true.  A lot of the people who complain about not getting merits make most of their posts in Altcoin Discussion, Bitcoin Discussion, or Economics.  That's where the spammers go so their plagiarism and shitposts don't attract attention. 

Be careful about trying to get merits by posting in Meta.  A lot of the senior members are well aware that relative noobs are starting to post in this section, trying to earn merits.  Your thread here is basically another "how do I earn merits" thread, which really is not appreciated.  If you haven't figured out yet that you have to make interesting posts, there's not much anyone can do to help you.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: LoyceV on September 05, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
If you have to ask those things, I don't think you're very likely to earn Merit. But since you're not a total spammer, I'll bite. My answer is: "it depends" :P
The number of replies isn't very relevant (exception: spam megathreads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777744.msg22355828#msg22355828)), it depends on the quality of the posts.

If you want to earn Merit, create something useful that doesn't exist on the forum yet. Have a look at the Top-merited recent topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=toptopics), read them (all of them!) and figure out why they are Merited.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2018, 05:36:32 PM
I've decided to take leveling up from Jr. memebr to member more seriously.

I want to know: Do I have a more likely chance of getting merit by posting on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies? If some replies have already been merited, do I have a greater chance of getting merit by responding to that topic or not?

I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.
Instead of replying, try creating your own topic and make sure that the topic you created is worthy of getting merits. Make sure topic is original and topic can help the community and interesting, not those topics like "can Bitcoin reach $80,000 USD by 2018". If you know something that you think others can benefit, the start that topic and merits will follow.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: Welsh on September 05, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
Its true that there's certain ways of getting more merit by strategically posting. However, I would advise against it. Just participate in discussions which you are genuinely interested in, and have something to say about, and you should receive merit. Maybe, not all the time, and maybe not a lot. But, you shouldn't be posting in order to earn merit. Instead, it should be rewarded for posts that you would of posted anyway.



Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: matthewoz101 on September 05, 2018, 07:01:01 PM
...on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies?...
I am gonna tell you the SECRET now but before I do that, I would like you to promise that you will not share this secret with anyone else except the visitors on this topic.

In addition to 1-3 and 6-10+, reply the topics which have exactly 0 and  4-5 replies too  :)

Thanks  :)

I had a strong feeling this was the answer  :)


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: matthewoz101 on September 05, 2018, 07:02:23 PM
You seem to post primarily in Speculation and Trading Discussion, and I'm not sure if those sections have a lot of merit sources looking at posts there.  In addition, there are a lot of shitposts there so if you make a good post it's likely that it's going to get buried under a mountain of idiotic shitposts within minutes--so your good post won't get seen, much less read or merited. 

It's been suggested many times here that posting in spammy sections lowers your chances of getting merited.  That's absolutely true.  A lot of the people who complain about not getting merits make most of their posts in Altcoin Discussion, Bitcoin Discussion, or Economics.  That's where the spammers go so their plagiarism and shitposts don't attract attention. 

Be careful about trying to get merits by posting in Meta.  A lot of the senior members are well aware that relative noobs are starting to post in this section, trying to earn merits.  Your thread here is basically another "how do I earn merits" thread, which really is not appreciated.  If you haven't figured out yet that you have to make interesting posts, there's not much anyone can do to help you.

I've noticed that trend as well. So... If you could choose 1 section to post in, which would it be?


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: matthewoz101 on September 05, 2018, 07:03:17 PM
If you have to ask those things, I don't think you're very likely to earn Merit. But since you're not a total spammer, I'll bite. My answer is: "it depends" :P
The number of replies isn't very relevant (exception: spam megathreads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777744.msg22355828#msg22355828)), it depends on the quality of the posts.

If you want to earn Merit, create something useful that doesn't exist on the forum yet. Have a look at the Top-merited recent topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=toptopics), read them (all of them!) and figure out why they are Merited.

Great advice. That list is something I was looking for. I'll start learning  :)


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: matthewoz101 on September 05, 2018, 07:04:40 PM
Its true that there's certain ways of getting more merit by strategically posting. However, I would advise against it. Just participate in discussions which you are genuinely interested in, and have something to say about, and you should receive merit. Maybe, not all the time, and maybe not a lot. But, you shouldn't be posting in order to earn merit. Instead, it should be rewarded for posts that you would of posted anyway.



I guess that's easy to say with your merits  ;)

I'll give your advice a shot. Thanks


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: LeGaulois on September 05, 2018, 07:54:12 PM
Why do you care about getting Merits? To rank up. Why do you care about your rank tag?
So if the forum didn't have a ranking system you wouldn't participate normally to the forum?

We have SEO, SMM, SMO, etc but the new thing now is MSO (Merit System Optimization), Too bad, Matt Cutts won't be able to help ;D


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: Theb on September 05, 2018, 08:36:52 PM
Not unless we are talking about megathreads post counts in a thread are irrelevant if you aim to earn merits in your posts. Instead what you want to look for is the ratio o replies over views, the greater the views that thread has simply means that the thread has a lot of readers, the more readers you have the more chances that one of those readers will see your post valuable and will reward it with a merit. Although I gave you this tip, I hope that you don't avoid threads you find interesting simply because it has few views, still post in this threads as other members might find it interesting and who knows maybe a lot of members will engage in the topic later on.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: suchmoon on September 05, 2018, 08:42:52 PM
I've decided to take leveling up from Jr. memebr to member more seriously.

I want to know: Do I have a more likely chance of getting merit by posting on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies? If some replies have already been merited, do I have a greater chance of getting merit by responding to that topic or not?

I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.

You should respond to a topic that you can meaningfully contribute to. If you use any other criteria to guide your decisions on where to post then your chances of getting merit are going be very very slim.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: bitart on September 05, 2018, 08:43:13 PM
Its true that there's certain ways of getting more merit by strategically posting. However, I would advise against it. Just participate in discussions which you are genuinely interested in, and have something to say about, and you should receive merit. Maybe, not all the time, and maybe not a lot. But, you shouldn't be posting in order to earn merit. Instead, it should be rewarded for posts that you would of posted anyway.



I guess that's easy to say with your merits  ;)

I'll give your advice a shot. Thanks

If you reply to a few posts, please try to combine all the replies into one post (let's learn how to use the quote function properly). Posting several replies in a row makes reading more difficult and it's also against the rules (check those as well). Take your time to learn and you'll be fine.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: Lafu on September 05, 2018, 08:58:38 PM
Merit here , Merit there ,

All about the Merit , lol
OP , just use the search (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search;advanced) field and Type in there " Merit " and you'll be surprised how many Results are showing up!

I am going now to report some Spam that brings more as threads about asking for Merit !    :D

Cheers 


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: athanz88 on September 05, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
The best thing to do is to make or talk about recent hot topics or you can make a content that is in your expertise area, combining that two will surely make a great and meaningful content and attracts merit. Example case is maybe like Ddmr, hot topic is merit and he/made lot of statistics which i think is one of his skills, and he made a lot of great contents which merited by most people.

If your expertise area is spamming, then it can not be helped.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: matthewoz101 on September 05, 2018, 11:26:14 PM
Merit here , Merit there ,

All about the Merit , lol
OP , just use the search (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search;advanced) field and Type in there " Merit " and you'll be surprised how many Results are showing up!

I am going now to report some Spam that brings more as threads about asking for Merit !    :D

Cheers 

Will do. Thanks :D


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: NavI_027 on September 05, 2018, 11:57:06 PM
In addition to 1-3 and 6-10+, reply the topics which have exactly 0 and  4-5 replies too  :)
Posting to threads with 0 and 4-5 replies is the secret? No way! No offense but you are wrong because if that's true then for sure early respondents of every thread here inside the forum already got merit points.

The chance of receiving merit points cannot be determined by the number of replies in a particular thread because the main criteria for judging is the quality of your posts. So whether you are replying to a most replied thread or not, it doesn't matter. You will get merit as soon as someone from the crowd notice your high quality posts. But remember, replying in megathreads could be a factor also, always expect that your post might not get a merit because of the congestion so better for you to quit posting in this kind of threads because it such a waste of effort :).


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: galambo on September 06, 2018, 04:07:32 AM
I've decided to take leveling up from Jr. memebr to member more seriously.

I want to know: Do I have a more likely chance of getting merit by posting on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies? If some replies have already been merited, do I have a greater chance of getting merit by responding to that topic or not?

I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.
Perhaps the length of the post replies does not matter much. Even if the topic has 0 replies and you are posting a really constructive post than you will surely get merit for it. It might be a bit difficult to get merits for threads with several replies because the post there does not get in much attention and some good merit sources just skip your post because it does not actually come into consideration.

If you are a Keen learner and a constructive poster, you would surely get merits. Also try to post the link to your most constructive post you think in the threads started by some merit sources. You can find some in tje services section. Also i have some low information about earning merits as you can see the number of merits i too have is quite low :-X But i always try to learn from such threads.

Introducing merits to the forum has really turned great and the number of scams and spams has also turned to the bottom line. Ranking up has really been much challenging now and not everyone can easily rankup. This can make a huge difference and a great spam free forum.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 06, 2018, 05:28:06 AM
I've decided to take leveling up from Jr. memebr to member more seriously.

I want to know: Do I have a more likely chance of getting merit by posting on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies? If some replies have already been merited, do I have a greater chance of getting merit by responding to that topic or not?

I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.

You see the issue of merits earning in relation to number of replies is not a cast and stone matter that one suggestion will just suffice in every case.

Based on what you have asked, aside from controversy threads that you can see merit on page 7 others are usually distributed between page 1 and 2 because at that point reasonable thoughts would have been expressed and every other are just trying to catch up but its not impossible.

Another way you should consider is bringing in quality content properly referenced (so you won't cause yourself problem) the express your own opinion in a concise and quality way. With that you are sure of being the FTC and credit for informing others too.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: TMAN on September 06, 2018, 05:53:15 AM
I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.

Stop worrying about merit, just make decent constructive posts. Help the community in anyway you can, realise your limitations and know where posts are wasted.

i'll break the above down as I am in a good mood.

Help the community in anyway you can

That means, use your skills - it can be anything that you are good at, info graphics, data mining, humor, investigating - whatever your niche is use it

Realise your limitations


Don't start posting in tech discussion unless you are well read, start reading lots - understanding BTC, maybe help newbies.

know where posts are wasted.


Don't post in megathreads (couple of exceptions, but if you don't know what they are then you shouldn't be posting in massive threads)
Don't post in the shit subs, speculation or any of the pajeet cesspools
Do check the top merited users and see what they do, i am up there but only cos I am unique and call a spade a spade - there are many many more talented people in the top 20 - check them out, follow the posts they make.



Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: Direwolve735 on September 06, 2018, 07:01:17 AM
I've decided to take leveling up from Jr. memebr to member more seriously.

I want to know: Do I have a more likely chance of getting merit by posting on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies? If some replies have already been merited, do I have a greater chance of getting merit by responding to that topic or not?

I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.

I doubt that you will be able to calculate all the necessary factors to maximize the chances of getting merits. After all, you are not Laplace's demon. Don`t waste your time on this. Concentrate on improving the quality of your posts. Try to find useful information and present it in an interesting way for other forum participants. Argument your thoughts, reinforce them with facts. Be interested not only in cryptosphere direct news, but also in other relevant events taking place in the world, as they can play a very important role in changing weather in the crypto market. Your posts don`t go unnoticed. They are read by participants who can reward you. But you must try a lot for this.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on September 06, 2018, 11:43:30 AM
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I want to know: Do I have a more likely chance of getting merit by posting on topics that have 1-3 replies or topics that 6-10+ replies? If some replies have already been merited, do I have a greater chance of getting merit by responding to that topic or not?
I know there aren't rules and these are generalizations, but any tips/tricks would be helpful. Just trying to maximize my efforts like everyone else.
You could take a look at a study I made a few months ago to get a glimpse on what you are asking about (see  Forum Merited Messages- Does size count?  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4181253.msg38299950#msg38299950)).

Statistics may give you some clues (or not), but posting with the hope of being merited is not like betting on a particular horse in a race. You don’t just chose a horse that seems fit (thread/time/number of words/etc.) and wait for it to win. What counts most is the jockey (the post’s author), and his capabilities, stamina and style.


Title: Re: Should I reply to topics with more or less replies? For the merit?
Post by: darklus123 on September 06, 2018, 02:02:23 PM
For me personally It doesn't matter if that is already a huge thread as long as the discussion is there.

Sometimes if the topic is uodated it means that there are alot of users reading from those. The only problem is you have to identify if there were actually real discussion happening and most of those huge threads are just swarmed up.

Posting in a short threads sometimes has more real discussion so that is not a bad idea.

Tho if you are good in making analytical data you can create your own thread which is for me the hardest yet the most effective way of posting that are mostly being rewarded with merits