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Price manipulation is done by using many ways.Publishing speculative news in favour of boosting bullish trend is a way.Here on the below link,we could see that news sites continuously release news that bitcoin price is to boom.If we see such moves,we should be cautious about investing otherwise we may get fooled and we might have to regret for our wrong investment.Don't let news media to decide your fortune.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9dimq2/headlines_two_days_ago_this_is_how_market/

Thanks for your sharing.
But I think we can combine with the move of money (BTC or altcoin) to guess the next action of whale.
Do you know any source that allow we find transactions of all of big wallet ? If yes, can you share it ?
Thanks a lot :)

99% of the things you read from news sites is not written to manipulate! they are publishing those articles to get clicks and earn money from those clicks. they don't care even if bitcoin dropped to 0 or went to $1 trillion. in both cases their source of income is from those clicks aka the traffic they get.

with that said when the community is desperate for seeing positive news to justify the rise that we are having they start publishing positive news and quote people who said "bitcoin to the moon". and when the community mood is otherwise they start quoting those who said "bitcoin is gonna die".
it is more like moving with the wind rather than wanting to cause the wind!

I don't think that this is exactly price manipulaiton.
Those crypto news sites publish only what the people want to read.Most of the crypto users want positive,optimistic news about bitcoin and the other cryptocurrencies,so those crypto news blogs just serve that purpose.If the bitcoin price does up after a bunch of optimistic publications in those news sites,this is a self-fulfilling prophecy,not a price manipulation.

I agree, news articles are in the majority written to earn revenue whether is
true or false news, it doesnt matter as long as there is money to be made.

And yes there are a group in crypto space who are desperate for a quick
profit so any sort of news affects them with either FUD or FOMO and they
are infectious. The rest of the group react also to buy or sell at the wrong times

The media is the right arm of anarchy

they publish anything just because they can. the journalism is dead, fact checking is dead, and a lot of other things in this field are dead. only money matters now. it is not far fetched to think they are trying to manipulate price with what they publish. we have definitely seen many cases of it such as the articles Bloomberg and CNBC publishes about bitcoin every now and then.

If you are getting something for free, like news of social media, then it means that you are the product. Most commonly these services are monetized via advertising, but sometimes they engage in less open and legal dealings, like selling user data or publishing secretly sponsored articles. So, basing your trading decisions on analysis that you get from free sources is one of the worst mistakes one can make, everyone who starts learning how to trade knows it, but unfortunately many people in crypto don't know even the most basic things, they are drunk on their past profits and think they are naturals.

nowadays everyone knows that when you spread FUD there are newbies that panic sell so you can pick up the bottoms and make a lot of profit. so when some of them gain the power to spread the FUD to more people they take advantage of it like the news sites spreading FUD. they too will benefit from a drop.

but the thing is, newbies aren't always going to fall for the FUD and doing this more means people will catch on.

I wouldn't say its price manipulation, but sort of trying to influence investments mindset. We all know that media is very powerful, and everything they put up whether fake news or not will have a effect on the population. And in addition to what @Herbert2020, some media outlets is back up by someone big in crypto. So I'm not surprised if we read articles shilling for a coin. And the state of journalism in crypto is very bad, they will just present any news without gathering enough information. Garbage and bullshit articles, and sometimes they themselves contradicts one another. So its very important for us to filter everything we read in cryptoverse.

For your information the media is also a business now a days they want to earn lot of money so they can be used by the whales to manipulate the prices as well so don't hear about the news while you are investing but at the same time some positive news will crete good impact on the prices like in 2017 if you use them at early stage you can make money out of it.

The truth is that everything about bitcoin has become a huge business so because the attention of the whole world is on the movement of bitcoin now and any publication about bitcoin gets so much attraction and people are benefiting from these publications.

yes, this has been happening for long and its a great tool for the users. we all should learn and know when things are real and fake. although all these manipulations are in phases and stages but it will be good if you can use them to your advantage.

lets not confuse bitcoin news and whether they are manipulating the price by it or not with altcoin news and whether They are manipulating the altcoin prices or not. they are two different subjects. a bitcoin news although powerful may not easily lead to manipulation but I have personally seen many cases of  news sites getting paid to actually hype some altcoin so that it can get pumped easier. in this case they aren't even involved with that coin/ICO or its pump or money raised, they are just getting paid to advertise in form of a news article.

There are good and bad news all the time, the thing is that those who manipulate the public and in the end the price, make only those bad or good come out in the mass media. That's why it's important to do your own research.

There is a lot of confusion that I feel right now when I hear Price manipulation, sometimes I believe in good news and end up with losses, now I don't care about the many good or bad news that surfaces, one thing I know, the news was made to get income. the news is true or false, it doesn't matter as long as there is money to be made. so I will ignore them because they did not help me in determining the right time to sell or buy.

I agree here that media and (crypto media) publish things that will bring them the most site entries and clicks. But that also can be manipulative because they don't seek for the good of others. They seek for their own wealth.

Traders often go by "buy by the rumors, sell by the news" (whether they buy or sell first). And this is okay.
One problem is that there are a lot of trader wannabes that can easily fooled by FUD or fake news.
Another problem is that the cryptocurrency oriented "news agencies" are not as professional as the could be and they can easily publish fake news.

And if you see the big picture you'll not wonder why manipulation does work here and why does it this good.

that is a big problem though. because existence of newbie trader wannabes makes everything that much more unpredictable. so you may think a rumor is worth buying but the newbies panic on that and you think you should sell when the newbies are FOMO buying!

Newbie traders have to learn and start trading properly or get out of that business.
I think that crypto trading is more difficult than stock trading, exactly because of the fake news and manipulation (news and some exchanges too). But as I wrote in another place too, some just came here because they've found some advertising that crypto will make them rich no matter what.

The best thing is not to wact TV at all and read a lot of books and educate yourself. Look for information on your own from various sources and draw your own conclusions.

The thing is that because crypto is available to anyone with at least $20
and any exchange is open to anyone with Bitcoin, anyone can start trading
without prior knowledge of what to do.

The availability of bitcoin and accessibility of exchanges combined with
"News" good or bad, true or false is transferred into the market and we get
big price shifts for no apparent reason, like yesterdays slump.

i think that is a bad news to us because they manipulate the price of it. Actually there are so many people that wanted to the price of it to increase but it only manipulate by others.

somebody who joins the billion dollar market with $20 is not going to even put a dent in it. most of his money is going to be wasted on fees anyways. the problems is they have much more money that $20 because they don't know what risk taking means and there is a lot of them.

fortunately for us each drop that we had in the past 9 months kicked a lot of them out of the market and now we are no longer seeing any of them around.
as someone once said and i half agree with, right now the market is bots and day traders playing with each other.

Thank you for good advice.
In fact, manipulation is very often in media, politics, economy, everything etc.
Since many very young, inexperienced users invest in the different markets, crypto, Forex, stock markets etc. money they can't afford to loose, they are usually very emotional and afraid to loose.
So, it's very easy o influence such investors and manipulate.

I actually agree with you. I learned that medias doesn't really care much about anything as long as they get those views and those money from the outside. They attack all sorts of personalities, companies, and even this cryptocurrency to get in touch with the trend and get those money flowing. Although the rumors of whales paying medias to spread bias news is kind of plausible, news that is trending for clicks is still believable to me.

When the market is dropping like now so being patient is the main key to profit, a lot of speculation is convinced that the price of cryptocurrencies is manipulation, and in my opinion this is not wrong because of devs. certainly want to make prices go up.

Don't listen to the media and all the noise that they bring. Ignore it completely. Only look at the charts, as the charts are fact and cannot be changed. Right now we are in a descending triangle, and it could either "moon" or "crater" around the end of this month. Prepare for either eventuality.

You would have to control a whole bunch of media outlets in order to be able to influence bitcoin's price.
It would be easier with a small market cap coin.

You advice not to listen to media but you expect the OP to believe your words--a stranger in some forum?

Charts are good only for a predictable market like traditional stocks. For a very volatile market like bitcoin, charts are useless. One bad news is enough to reverse your expected chart outcome.

Wow, what a great point you've made here about being a product for social media. Infact they steer your behaviour in the way that is best for them. If they want you to sell your coins remember that there is someone behind willing to buy them and make some money.

They don't have any business with any results that they have done, as long as they've got the paychecks then they are good to go, those news who making people to act like crazy are really making impacts inside this industry as we are keep looking for some reason why movements goes to particular side and why things needs to be like that, influence build inside investors minds that if there's some strange movement they needed to know what are those factors that affecting and they always base things from news.

This is a reminder to everyone, thank you for sharing information. I think everyone cautioned that not only the ads but also some BTC market information will die, the crypto market is plummeting it will make people new panic and sell all that they have to exit off. I think people should calm down to make no mistake.

The value of the AML Bitcoin is not determined by any government. Therefore, if any economic or financial instability occurs, AML Bitcoin users are not affected.

Do people actually pay attention to these? I mean, there are new predictions popping up daily and it looks like the market has matured enough to ignore them. People only really talk about it if the person who made the prediction is popular or something and even then, expectations regarding its outcome are generally low.

I'm not saying there are no attempts, just that I don't think this would be a very effective one.

Another problem is that the "electronic news agencies" are money-oriented non-professional as possible and they can easily publish fake news. New traders must learn and start trading properly or exit the business. But as I wrote elsewhere, some only came here because they found some ads that the password would make them rich no matter what.

We can say so about every news not just crypto based. The mass media is making sheep's from us, pushing us to do things which are profitable only to small group of people which is on the top. That's why we should to set our own targets to the price of bitcoin and sell only if those terms came true.

Unfortunately we cannot do anything if there are some peoples manipulating the market.
If we know they are able to manipulate, what we can do is just stay calm and not panicking when the price falling or rising.
Always take action with your mind, not your emotion.

I agree with the fact that we shouldn't let news media decide our future but not most of the crypto currency traders or investors understand that which is why I think we should not be ignore of their capacity either. Therefore, I believe using the technical, fundamental, new and watching the rate of shorts is the best way to know how the market works.

Actually this is not surprising. I am absolutely sure that whales "make" such "great" news through their big money and using marginal trading. So we have to always read and follow these news.

We will always encounter such news everyday good or bad about bitcoin. Sometimes we just have to follow our intuition into everything that we invest in. If it's too good to be true then maybe we can do some thorough research about the legitimacy of the news. Having knowledge about the technology and understanding the fluctuations of bitcoin's value will give us a hint whether the performance of bitcoin will make us profit or not.

It's not conducive yet, bitcoin is at a low level, so it's better if we really wait for bitcoin at a safe and stable level for next month, like last year, it lasted a long time at a high level and I'm sure it will recover because prices will stabilize $ 700 for ETH

Thats why its better to just hold long term, there is a ton of manipulation in this market by the big whales and if you try to day trade you will lose.

My request to every crypto holder is don't follow any Pump and dump groups. Mostly they will encourage us to buy their recommended token that they already bought at very cheaper price and they will tell us to circulate the positive news on that token to increase the pump on this token and at that time they will dump the token what they hold but they instruct us to hold until it reaches certain highs.

This is pure form of making money by the admin of Pump and Dump groups.

This practice is mostly illegal. Due to non presence of regulation these groups are still practicing these methods in the cryptomarkets.

Conscious or not, the media actually influences our attitude in making a decision. In this case, for example what happened in the crypto world this year. So many negative issues were blown through the media. So it panicked a lot of people, and finally. Making crypto prices fall sharply

The volatility in the bitcoin is very common and therefore its valuation is subject to flactuation and varies according to market demand and supply so being patience is very important to make good profit in bitcoin and there are very strategies for the price manipulation as it varies the number of investors and the amount of capital they are investing, higher the number of investors and higher the capital, higher will be the demand and higher will be the valuation and then holding is the next strategy for the price manipulation.

Too many manipulators / speculators causing cryptocurrency market became unstable. If they vanished from this world, then cryptocurrency volatility would be reduced to near 0. But we cannot do anything about it, As long you have much money, you can manipulate the market with the coins in your possession.

be a wise investor so as not to be easily influenced by any media, whose character is to drop bitcoin.

The value of AML Bitcoin is not determined by any government. Do people really pay attention to these things? People only really talk about it if the person making the prediction is popular or something and even then, expectations about its results are generally low. Another problem is that "electronic news agencies" are the most unprofessional money orientation possible and they can easily publish fake news. But as I wrote elsewhere, some just came here because they found some ads that the password would make them rich no matter what. The mass media is making our lambs, pushing us to do things that are only profitable for small groups of people that are on top.

Thats why i don’t wanna explore the social media world,and even the news about cryptocurrency because most of them are misleading and tricky.so i choose to just focus in this forum about the ins and outs of market.and this may the best way  to lessen the panicking moment of every cryptonians

Yes, price manipulation is a common way used by peoples who want to grab some profit with other's losses.
The problem is, we just can easily know that the price is being manipulated or not currently.
If we knew it, we would not be able to affected by their manipulation movements in the market.

I just hope that games like this will disappear forever, and the culprit is revealed, because this kind of action will be a thorn for some investors

I think people are warning that not only advertising but also some BTC market information will die, the cryptographic market is sharply reduced, it will scare people and sell all they have to exit. The value of AML Bitcoin is not determined by any government.

News articles has always been the prior ways of manipulating the market and it took around 4 to 5 years for everyone to understand that easily. Otherwise every dam investors here are just running away from he bitcoin when they see some negative news about it and vice versa is also true. Even today big portion of the crypto community is still relying on the news and their dirty articles to decide whether they should be buying the crypto in their next move or not. I guess that sounds like the worst idea to decide your buying and selling movements. Lets get it straight, the news are also paid one and who knows for the bigger planning a whale may pay them next time for making the market move the way they want.  :P

We all know that bitcoin is a part of investment, the most beneficial investment, note the word investment and apart from being part of investment bitcoin is also a volatile crypto wand both these factors makes the valuation of bitcoin so flactuating and this is the reason why the prices of bitcoin goes up and down and it varies according to market demand and supply, higher the number of investors and higher the capital they are investing into bitcoin, higher will be the demand and vice versa and this is the strategy for price manipulation.

We can say the same about every news not just based on cryptocurrency. That is why we should set our own goals for bitcoin and only sell if those terms are true. So, I believe that using technical, basic, new and speed-up shorts is the best way to know how the market works. Sometimes we just need to follow our intuition into everything that we invest in. Having a knowledge of the technology and understanding of the fluctuation of the bitcoin value will give us a hint that the performance of the bitcoin will make us profitable. Conscious or not, the media really affect our attitude in making decisions. So many negative issues have been blown through the media.

these are ordinary people who also want to earn. but since they have large resources, they can manage the course or have information

Media too many cover negative news and make investor in market panic. I am believe media have a big part in market fall in several months. But i am believe crypto investor will realize this and more patient with their own investment

Fake news or negative news give big impact to the price and investor psychology. It is true that we should not get fooled by negative news because we will lossing our money. Many negatives news created by big manipulators so they can buy crypto with cheap price

We all know that that bitcoin is highly volatile crypto currency and because of which its valuation are subject to highly flactuation and it varies according to market demand and supply, higher the number of investors and higher the capital they invest into bitcoin, higher will be the demand and higher will be the valuation and vice versa and this only strategy is used by most of people to manipulate the flactuation in the valuation of bitcoin.

The central trading floor controls most of the electronic money flow, giving them a lot of incentives to increase revenue by forging the crypto price. One way they can do this is to control the price feeds displayed on the trading floors, causing the traders to believe in them for the purchase or sale. The action of manipulation is quite complex. In addition, they can be difficult to prove and control in uncontrolled markets.

In every aspects of financial institution there are many manipulations and you can't really avoid it because it is part of it. We just have to live with it and also try to use it.

Yes, I agree that during price manipulation like when it becomes bearish market, the strategy in buying at this scenario could lead to a much greater success in your btc investment especially when market becomes bullish again. I think that for those investors with limited resources could only make FUD and negative news just to meet their target to let the market move to down trend mode but it could not actually able to make an impact. Most of the whale investors are those who were able to make an impact in the market condition due huge crypto resources.

This has been repeated many times in a few years. Although the news is not true, it still has a lot of influence on the speculators. If you are a speculator, you should extract your money to buy news sooner. That is important if you are holding large assets in this market.

If a lot of investors invest on that certain currency, the price will drop. But if they withdraw all of it at the same time, the price will immediately rise. The pri e manipulation differs on how much invest that was happened on the currency. Sometimses, other companies store their currencies for them to invest it in the future.