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Hey huys
i wanna Get new btc miner & got almost free electricity (0.02-0.03$ per kwh)

Right now  t2turbo+32TH (10nm) & whatsminer M10 (16nm) are the best ones.
T2turbo +32 is not available on the website. whats your suggestion, should i wait for new asics OR i go for M10  ?

tnx

https://www.asicminervalue.com/

asics are dead. use gpus. aka, the same thing seattle folk will tell you about the weather. ;)

-j

Basically calculators will tell at today's market conditions and difficulty only

https://whattomine.com/asic

https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator-asic/

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator

with that power rates, If you buy an s9 with 14.5T hashrate at 473USD , you may get around 2.4$

S9 14.5Th Whattomine (https://whattomine.com/asic?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sha256f=true&factor%5Bsha256_hr%5D=14500.0&factor%5Bsha256_p%5D=1370.0&factor%5Bscrypt_hash_rate%5D=504.0&factor%5Bscrypt_power%5D=800.0&factor%5Bx11_hr%5D=15000.0&factor%5Bx11_p%5D=1200.0&factor%5Bbk2b_hr%5D=815.0&factor%5Bbk2b_p%5D=1370.0&factor%5Bqk_hr%5D=450.0&factor%5Bqk_p%5D=75.0&factor%5Bqb_hr%5D=450.0&factor%5Bqb_p%5D=84.0&factor%5Bmg_hr%5D=3.3&factor%5Bmg_p%5D=50.0&factor%5Bsk_hr%5D=1.7&factor%5Bsk_p%5D=40.0&factor%5Blbry_hr%5D=20.0&factor%5Blbry_p%5D=200.0&factor%5Bbk14_hr%5D=80.0&factor%5Bbk14_p%5D=205.0&factor%5Bpas_hr%5D=20.0&factor%5Bpas_p%5D=105.0&factor%5Bx11g_hr%5D=0.45&factor%5Bx11g_p%5D=70.0&factor%5Bcn_hr%5D=55.0&factor%5Bcn_p%5D=140.0&factor%5Beq_hr%5D=5.0&factor%5Beq_p%5D=140.0&factor%5Bcost%5D=0.03&sort=Profitability24&volume=0&revenue=24h&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bitfinex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bittrex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=cryptopia&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=hitbtc&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=poloniex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=yobit&dataset=Main&commit=Calculate)

Lol, ASICs/ GPU not dead but is dying.

For @OP
if you want fast ROI, having lower power consumption, and don't want complexity when settings, yes ASICs is an excellent choice but if want has long-term mining and value resale, of course, GPUs a good choice.

Zcash miners are more profitable but people say they can patched by forks or new miners batch. i cant change my miners frequency

If the new batch will release the difficulty will increase and the profitability will drop. So both ASIC and GPU are dying because ASIC manufacturer always making a new mining hardware which causes price drops and low profitability.

For now, only new ASIC miner can give you more profit than the old ASICminer.

Basically since your power is cheap you should get an ASIC that is balanced between power, efficiency, profitability and price.

You can get an ETH miner but they are more expensive. So you are better off getting something cheap like maybe an SHA256 miner or an Scrypt miner since there are many of those.

The ZEC ASICs in my opinion are still overpriced and will keep decreasing in value in the near future.

Since you wrote this post, ZEC ASIC return has dropped enough to make you go "hmmm". A week ago my setup was bringing in 1.2+ ZEC/day. As of this moment, it's estimated around 0.88 for the day.

Don't mine.

Seriously, lol.

-j

The Nicehash Profitability Calculator (https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator) is a decent resource I use to look at the most profitable devices on the market. I'm aware it doesn't list each and every ASIC out there, but it covers most of the common ones, and you can manually input data into it as well.

I'd also suggest going for a BTC/SHA256 miner at the moment. They're going for extremely cheap ATM (check the Computer Hardware section), and with your electrical costs there's definitely room for profit if you can get a good enough deal. Remember, there's usually some room to negotiate unless the seller states outright they're fixed on a price.

I don't care for asic's unless there sha256 or scrypt miners and I think your best bet would be sha256 miner if any coin is going to go up it's BTC so you have a better shot at making more and a faster roi

i do not like bitmain and ASIC at all
you can buy gpus and mining many logarithm

but not now all mining not profitable .. 6 gpus give you 2.5$ if you do not pay for electric

that very bad  :'( :'( :'( 

whether it is feasible or not, I can't confirm it but this can be considered:
-try to compare (S9, A9, Z9) with price, hashrate, power consumption.
-try to predict how long they can survive in mining

it's basic when choosing any device but doesn't apply to every miner

Well, I think this is what should be your first consideration to choose. I agree with this comment:


Efficiency means hashing speed per power used, then also an average of the profitabilities. And if we were talking about ROI, machine prices should be one of the consideration.

I still choose GPU for long-terms mining, but since OP question is which ASICs, then my best answer would be, ASICs that meets the criteria that I said above. ▲

Sure dude.
Pay attention to release dates of the ASIC's and how many are in orange/red territory.
Most asic's coming out today will never ROI, let alone make some profits, any yet people still keep buying them.
Its funny really how much naive people there are around, without these, companies making ASIC's would go bust years back.

This site would be good if only the values were correct. I also don't see why some ASICs have red dates while some have green. I also highly doubt that the Bitmain Z9 ASIC does 46k+ k/sols. Even if it could by some type of firmware update, that should be specified or given as an option. Stock values should be displayed, not speculated or "rumor" values.

Shame, could have been a great resource.

Could you cite a value that is incorrect?  Judging by the numbers it looks somewhat accurate to me.  Red dates are for miners that are not yet released.  Green means they have been released to the market. 

Well my Apollo miner is currently the most EFFICIENT scrypt ASIC, but with your power costs so low you probably don't care much about efficiency.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036.0

T2turbo +32 is not available on the website. whats your suggestion, should i wait for new asics OR i go for M10  ?

from my perspective sha256 asics are a losing battle, there is so much development going on that whatever you buy is dwarfed within a few months by something new to market. not to mention each time new the asics come out the difficulty just exponentially increasing meanwhile the pools you would be joining (antpool etc) to have any kind of return are absorbing your hashrate more to their benefit than yours since the asic manufacturers own the majority of the equipment in the pool.  i know from asicminervalue decred and eth seem to be the bulk of the profitability right now. 

are you looking to just buy a single asic or in bulk to setup a small farm? it might be better to grab a bunch of unprofitable/low profitable used asics to get the infrastructure setup power/network/heat/noise and get that experience before dropping money on current full price gear until you know what you want.