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- Since January 2018, the currency of the bitcoin in a downward trend, losing 70.19% of its value against the US dollar, but in the past two weeks things were going well, and managed to rise from $ 5879 to $ 7410 dollars.

Expectations of a return to the downward trend of the currency once again and its decline to the value of 5388 dollars due to many news that will affect the currency, including:

First Lightning Network:

bitcoin received a boost in the right direction after Queen Gate announced its listing of 4,000 traders to its network, and traders will be able to receive payments through the lightning network, significantly reducing transaction costs while increasing their speed.

The new network operates through the presence of one channel that brings together the two parties and enables them to exchange money on a continuous basis, and thus will help the system to enhance the safety of the Betquin.

Second: Bitcoin and Iran:

The Iranian government has said it will consider digital currency mining as an industry. The amendment comes in light of the government's pressure to rely heavily on digital currencies, as these assets will help Iran ease the impact of economic sanctions imposed by the United States.

The adoption of digital currencies is expected to facilitate trade between Tehran and its partners, and as a result of this news, the price of the bitcoin reached $ 24,000 in Iranian trading platforms.

The secretary of the Supreme Council for Cyberspace in Iran said the state was considering issuing its own currency, and the central bank was working on a suitable framework for the digital currency industry.

On the other hand, the digital currency market is experiencing a steady decline due to the sale of their currency by major bitcoin investors, including Silkroad, which is rumored to sell a large portion of its currency to pay debt.

Given the experts' expectations of a continued bearish trend for the currency, investors are advised to identify stop-loss points, ie, to determine a certain level if the price of the currency is reached by the investor, which will help to preserve capital and reduce losses.

I wouldn't call it expectations since most experts are making their own basis for what will happen next and what to do on a certain situation, they are taking action by results. They don't rely on or put too much expectation on things since most of their calculation happens a lot.

Bitcoin is a very unpredictable coin. Presuming what will happens next is next to impossible. What they are doing is giving opinions based on results. There's no such thing as expectations, these are called presumption.

I think cryptocurrency is highly unpredictable. There has been speculation from a lot of "experts", yet none of them have showed much accuracy, and it remains only speculation. Personally I believe that without further adoption of the actual technology in everyday life, cryptocurrency will remain highly volatile and speculative.

Expectation exist, as there are some goods signs like Queen Gate announcement, Iranian government step and Tehran adaption. Definitely news has an indirect relation with currency fluctuation and its bringing positivity with rising.

Last few days it was bad situation for bitcoin. If Queen Gate announcement news, Iranian government news and Tehran adaption news really affected the currency than yes, expectations are here.

Their expectation is the speculation that cryptocurrency is made of. I do not know whether the Iran experiment with bitcoin will last long because it is going against USA's interest on arm twisting Iran to drop her nuclear weapon policy. I really hope these few incidence mentioned by this poster will help to boost the  image of bitcoin and the market value . The price now is so bad and the worst hit is Ethereum.

Cryptocurrency exchanges, the anonymous exchanges with no domination over it of ones  that’s the reason why many using them. In the real monetary system US dollar have the domination including us government.

First of all this market is unpredictable because price fluctuation can happen at any time. So experts will not always make the correct decision. They can take decision when they see the result.

Honestly-I do not believe "experts" bitcoin. They made too many false predictions to trust them. IMHO

These are not expectations now a day these are reality. Many of the governments are thinking seriously about taking digital currency as a legal currency through their nation.

My expectation is that I am correct. There is not a person anywhere who can predict the future. and being an "expert" does not change things one bit. So someone telling you they know the future because of their expertise is only telling you that they are an expert in bullshit. 

Op when you post an article such as this, there is need to reference it properly as failure to do so would amount to plagiarism which is frown at on the forum here and could lead to ban.

The two factors identified above is not enough to push the expectations of people over the roof. Signing of 4000 users is good, but what is the effect of 4000 people on a multi billion dollar market size? Considering that huge percentage of this 4000 people might have been involved in crypto already which means its not a form of fresh injection of funds but moving money from one place to another without any effect on the market size.

On Iran considering the adoption of crypto because of avoiding US ban, it won't perform magic in the short term because they cannot force other countries they will trade with, or expatriates they will hire to start accepting their own virtual currency. It will still boils down to what they are running away from only that its going to mild or its effect postponed till future date.

This is great news but unfortunately probably they will not play a significant role in the bear market but I think that the bulls next !

Pretty much convincing. I think all these experts are experts in making other people fool and those who follow these predictions are double fools. I have never seen any prediction in the past which has come true and it will never come true as well. The crypto currencies may get accepted by some government and may get banned by others but the crypto currencies will always be invested based on these fundamental and depending upon which the prices will keep changing. I guess we should be focusing more on it rather than keep reading the expert opinion. Just read, learn and invest guys !!

How you call it expectations of exparts. Most of them are telling just fortale. without depending on Statistics, MarketCap, or its history. This just their thinking.But still i hope for a recent bull run in BTC market.

Yes,we all are waiting for a big pump of Bitcoin and we saw that the last of the year Btc price can be increased to like last weeks

I think bitcoin is a highly unpredictable thing. According to. Many economist expert it is the future currency can easily lead the future economy market and according to some it is nothing but a big bubble, which can burst any time. Bitcoin is accepted by many big multinational multimillion companies and these thing increase its popularity and price at international market. And this thing help it to increase its market price. And also secure its future. Many government also work with bitcoin to improve their country economy and according to these above thing many economist say that bitcoin will be the future of currency market.

Actually Iran has no contribution towards cryptos and so it's decision on considering bitcoin mining as legal wouldn't have any impact on bitcoin price.Two main events remaining which could induce bitcoin price are ETF approval and the next halving when certainly bitcoin price would rise.

The biggest of the expectation is the ETF proposal's breakthrough. After the last 9 proposals, seeing the requirement of the SEC in last ones it, should be leverage for a successful outcomes. Though some argued its long time effect but for this year i will be a long time waiting successful expectation. The proposal seem not to cover a lot but will be helpful.

No expectation is actually a pretty decent one. Back in the day when BTC was going down like crazy and we were in the second year of the bear market I've decided to forget about it and live my life like it never existed. I kept holding but considered it a total loss. A year later I realized that I actually have quite a lot of money.
It's best to keep calm and let the life surprise you :)

Yes the price is rising, at least we don't loose like altcoins.. We believed in Bitcoin and never leave it. The important think in here "is the price of the bitcoin reached $ 24,000 in Iranian trading platforms." If it is true the BTC price will go to the moon soon.. Iran is very rich country remember this..

Positive news is becoming more and more it/ one authoritative person said that yesterday and the day before yesterday we reached the bottom, and that now only up! )

i disagree, a little.
it is never a good idea to blindly put your money somewhere and then hope for it to go up and then come back after a long time to see if your bet was successful or not.
what you need to do (and possibly that is what you did back then, i don't know!) is that you should analyze and see if that kind of investment is actually good or not. in case of bitcoin you have to see if it really has real potential or is it all hype and fake illusions. if you think it is real (which is the case with bitcoin) you invest long term and forget about it.

I don't see any of the points you mentioned going to be affecting the market in the long run. This year might not be the year for crypto currencies. But we have seen the price staying stable for almost few weeks (not considering the short living spikes, since the price goes down to where it was). We can't expect anything much right now unless all walls are broken and the support level rises. Until then keep investing and holding your coins.

Cryptocurrency feeds on news which will moves the market whose sentiments will impact on the price either up or down. This is the reason these two breaking news will be a cheering one for crypto enthusiasts as the weight of the news is heavy and such that can make  a  heavy wave  in the market and definitely will be in the positive as the price of the b   bitcoin and altcoins will now soars.

There are many speculations from many cryptocurrency experts, but there is no precision, and just speculation. I believe that crypto will continue to be a reality in everyday life and it will fly higher and fly.

experts using the name bitcoin are actually trying to get advertising your name

And who are those experts who said that bitcoin will go 50K USD in the January 2018? I would really love to meet them personally and shake hand with them to know them they were absolutely incorrect about there predictions and also congratulate that they are not true one more time and failing as usual.  ::)

Now tell me, why does it matter to us what are the expectations of the experts on Bitcoin at all? They have got no chance whatsoever they predict in this industry because things are too liquid here and they will keep changing all the time. There are decisions, political forces, denominations, more fiat preferences, fraud and scam of the crypto projects and much more!! All these things can not be taken for granted but needs to be evaluated. properly and experts are just the people who are throwing the predictions based on the current scenario and nothing else.

some of the things above that you mentioned are positive. but seen from other aspects, such as the decision of the Goldman Sachs which is rumored to be attracting more investment in bitcoin because of unclear regulation, making bitcoin not yet emerging from the downward trend.

will be failed and success of everyone, they already used bitcoin for years... and now the bitcoin will be the expensive cryptocurrency now

The signing of 4000 users is good, but the effect of 4000 people with multi-billion market size is how much? When Iran considers accepting the password for avoiding the US ban, it will not perform magic in the short term because they can not force other countries they will deal with, or the foreigners they will hire to capture. early adopters of their virtual money. This is a good news but unfortunately they will not play a major role in the bear market but I think the next speculator! Most of them are said to be just fortresses. It does not depend on Statistics, MarketCap or its history.

Although the bearish trend is not continuous, the price of bitcoin is still rising slowly and steadily. The price has certainly increased so much from the all time low of the year. The increase in price is still so much than rest of the commodities and assets. I believe that even if bitcoin's price doesn't increase any further it will still be a significant growth from its all time low and hence the potential of BTC is still good for the future.

Yes, I agree with your opinion on this topic. Bitcoin has first decentralized cryptocurrency and it is volatile so no one controls its price. So how can experts gives prediction on it.

I am totally agree with you, you are right about experts expect to much to their expecatitions because they try hard to analyze a possible way to know how, when and why bitcoin is volatile. Many experts making their own basis to proved the existence of bitcoin, let we say that it has really a facts about their analyze because some of them are true.

I think using the word expectation in the crypto community could be just similar with to speculation. With this, many of the people are still investing more of btc since experts in this field are seeing high probability of bullish run to take effect in the crypto market this coming Q4 of the year.                                 

Their expectation is the speculation that cryptocurrency is made of.many economist expert in the future currency it can easily lead the future.this thing help it to increase its market price.i will be a long time waiting successful expectation cause BTC is still good for the future.

Expectation again that can cause panic buying and at the end can cause regrets and blaming others lol . Why experts nowadays cant predict the certain movements of matket growth rate, wherein  only speculation and etc without strong evidence, ? Hmm probably this kind of statement  about the future of bitcoin is a bluff again . Because there is no source where the post from.

when you really think about it you can see that bitcoin has not been that volatile in general. for example the "high volatility" only occurs during the fast rises towards ATHs or for example when there is some sort of hype going on like the halving hype. and of course these fast rises always end up with a bubble (sometimes a tiny one) which will be corrected and that correction means a fast drop and increased volatility.

but that is only part of bitcoin history not all of it. other times bitcoin is pretty much stable or with a solid rise. like these days.

we never know how the development of bitcoin in the future, in my opinion, the 2 points you mentioned, lightning network and bitcoin in Iran will not affect the volume of bitcoin trading on the market.

we know this year's down trend was created by panic, big sales, and hacking. this is an important point that has the role to make bitcoin fall.

I think there are no experts we can trust in bitcoin. Think about last summer this year. Everyone, probably 99% of the experts were calling that bitcoin will definitely go to minimum 10.000$ until September - October because of the bull market. What happened? Something than no one expected, he price went even lower than before and everyone lost their profits.

It is very difficult to make predictions based on two factors that you have indicated. These 2 news can attract investors but not affect the market globally.And actually I do not really rely on the opinions of experts.The best option is to analyze and make decisions yourself

I am also sure that the time of bears is coming to an end, soon we are waiting for the bull rally:) a Lot of positive news comes out recently

I agree. You cannot expect that much for expert what strategies they used because they based from the result of they are doing. Some are just happens like what an ordinary expected and normally analyse the market. Sometimes expert calculation happens only for themselves and not for all. You have to make your own calculation and decide on your own. There expectation is just a guide.

It's difficult to trust anyone, "experts" are usually just trying to manipulate others so they can make more profit.  They spread fud when they want cheap btc and they hype btc when they want to pump and dump.

i realy dont beleive this expectations are true i dont think bitcoin will be affected by any news .. the price will go up sooner or later. it just need to be legalize in all countries

I also agree with what Alex said. Particularly, on the point of Iran not causing much of a change in BTC price. If anything, the lightning network might perhaps do better at this than the news about Iran.

Expectations cannot be true until it meet the price so we cannot predict the price of btc. We dont know yet at what price btc were heading if it may increase this late month. Even experts cannot be predicts btc price because of the volatility in the market.

And how about bitcoin ETF ? I heard that bitcoin ETF is the factors of bitcoin price too.
The lightning network is not done yet, it still need development to become mainstream among crypto users.
My expectation about bitcoin is still high, i believe it will be back on the previous highest price in the market later.

Some of them only said about price, and not as payment. I'm not hear about it yet. But if it will be payments for any merchants and bank accept it. Bitcoin price will be very high because a lot of demand.

The signing of 4000 users is good, but the effect of 4000 people with multi-billion market size is not much. I think so, however this is good news but unfortunately they will not play an important role in the market but I think it will affect the next speculator! It does not depend on Statistics, MarketCap or its history. Prices have certainly risen a lot compared to all the low times of the year. I believe that even if the bitcoin price does not increase further, it will still be a significant growth from its all-time low and hence the potential of the BTC is good for the future. With this, many are still investing more than btc because experts in this field are witnessing the possibility of higher prices to be effective in the cryptographic market in the forthcoming Q4. This helps it to raise its market price. Expectations can again cause panic buying and can eventually cause regret and blame others

experts only want bitcoin to survive at the current value and not fall again until the end of the year. because in order to reach prices like 2017, I think that is indeed difficult.

After I read your article, I conclude, you are very good at gathering information. What you write actually I already know, but I really give a great appreciation to you. I can only conclude about your article, it is likely that Bitcoin will experience an increase due to changes in the lightning network made, then supported by the Iranian state there is a possibility that Bitcoin will become the world's financial center. As we know, Iran is currently the most powerful country in maintaining its financial economy.

It doesn't matter the price. Bitcoin is a currency. Or at least it was created for that purpose.
We just need more outputs.

I doubt that 2 you mentioned is a expectations of experts, it has nothing to do with any significant jump specially the Iranian news. We all know that they're just into it because they wanted to circumvent embargo sanctions against them by the US government.

I think 'experts' know concede that Bitcoin would get into a all-time-high this year because we are almost at the end of the year and nothing is working on our favor except few pumps and prices usually stalled around the $6k-$7k price range.

Cryptocurrency experts have different expectations on bitcoin future. Some of them expect positively where as some of them except in negative way. Bitcoin is accepted by many big multinational companies like amazon, Microsoft, greenman gaming etc. And Because of this many experts thing that in future its market price increase and because of this its user number and profit diameter will be increase. Because if bitcoin decentralised nature many cryptocurrency expert expect that bitcoin will ban in some countries and due to its volatile nature also expect that it will be considered as bubble.

I agree in your opinion at the first we know it is unpredictable the value can up and down anytime no one can predict on next happen even experts it's hard for them to predict the results and they will not make good decision and they also wait the results in the market before they share there opinion about the price value of cryptocurrency.

To be honest, I think it is not necessary to pay attention to the expectations of experts, simply because these people in the majority understand in cryptocurrencies no more than you, and sometimes even worse.

No single point that you mention will affect the market in the long run. It looks like this year we have to forget about the bull market and it seems that this year may not be the year for Crypto. But we have seen prices remain stable for almost a few weeks. We cannot expect anything now unless all FUDs are lost and the rate of adoption of crypto increases.

I never believe it too in experts give predictions about in bitcoin. There are lots of experts that predict about in bitcoin all there news are false or fake news it is not helpful for us.