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Title: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 05, 2014, 07:31:32 PM
OK, this is pure speculation, so mods please move this to the according forum if necessary.

Now, did anybody take a look at Mark's new business plan in hitting Europe?

Did anybody hear about Neo-bee? http://www.neo-bee.com/index.php/en/

Well, apparently their first reference to a Bitcoin website is: bitcoins.com

Which is owned by who????????

http://www.neo-bee.com/en/faqs/
scroll down till you see the reference links.

Again, this is just speculation....





Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Lauda on March 05, 2014, 07:37:35 PM
No.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 05, 2014, 07:41:51 PM
No.

Why not?

Cyprus has always been the hideout for many thieves.
Believe me, I live in Cyprus.



Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Lauda on March 05, 2014, 07:43:19 PM
No.

Why not?

Cyprus has always been the hideout for many thieves.
Believe me, I live here.


Have you seen me around? No.
There are better hideouts.


This is possible, but not likely.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 05, 2014, 07:46:11 PM
No.

Why not?

Cyprus has always been the hideout for many thieves.
Believe me, I live here.


Have you seen me around? No.
There are better hideouts.


This is possible, but not likely.

Like I said bro, this is a speculation, but judging by my 34 years of experience living here, I say it is very possible.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy about the fact that Bitcoin is spreading in my homeland, but.....


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: ManeBjorn on March 05, 2014, 08:00:05 PM
Where does it say he is associated with this site?
Even if it is not where the coins went at least people should know he is involved with another BTC related business.


OK, this is pure speculation, so mods please move this to the according forum if necessary.

Now, did anybody take a look at Mark's new business plan in hitting Europe?

Did anybody hear about Neo-bee? http://www.neo-bee.com/index.php/en/

Well, apparently their first reference to a Bitcoin website is: bitcoins.com

Which is owned by who????????

http://www.neo-bee.com/en/faqs/
scroll down till you see the reference links.

Again, this is just speculation....






Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 05, 2014, 08:17:54 PM
Where does it say he is associated with this site?
Even if it is not where the coins went at least people should know he is involved with another BTC related business.


OK, this is pure speculation, so mods please move this to the according forum if necessary.

Now, did anybody take a look at Mark's new business plan in hitting Europe?

Did anybody hear about Neo-bee? http://www.neo-bee.com/index.php/en/

Well, apparently their first reference to a Bitcoin website is: bitcoins.com

Which is owned by who????????

http://www.neo-bee.com/en/faqs/
scroll down till you see the reference links.

Again, this is just speculation....





bitcoins.com belongs to Mark Karpeles : http://whois.net/whois/bitcoins.com



Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: ManeBjorn on March 05, 2014, 08:23:08 PM
Wow.
That is nuts.
I am surprised that anyone trusts him.


Where does it say he is associated with this site?
Even if it is not where the coins went at least people should know he is involved with another BTC related business.


OK, this is pure speculation, so mods please move this to the according forum if necessary.

Now, did anybody take a look at Mark's new business plan in hitting Europe?

Did anybody hear about Neo-bee? http://www.neo-bee.com/index.php/en/

Well, apparently their first reference to a Bitcoin website is: bitcoins.com

Which is owned by who????????

http://www.neo-bee.com/en/faqs/
scroll down till you see the reference links.

Again, this is just speculation....





bitcoins.com belongs to Mark Karpeles : http://whois.net/whois/bitcoins.com




Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 05, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
Yeah, what's funny is that bitcoins.com was registered in the year 2000.....


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Lauda on March 05, 2014, 10:44:49 PM
Yeah, what's funny is that bitcoins.com was registered in the year 2000.....

Randomly pretty much.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: franky1 on March 06, 2014, 12:29:27 AM
so if neo-bee referenced CNN news network, it means CNN owns neo-bee?

and that CNN are running off to cyprus because Neo-bee mentioned them?

.. im not seeing your point that there is any proof of the physical partnership/ ownership between karpeles and neo-bee.


what i will say though, is that neo-bee uses a who-is guard, so i wont be using their service. if they cant be transparent about their business, and i cant find an address to slap them with a wet fish if they fraud me.. i wont touch them


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: thecarnie on March 06, 2014, 02:16:20 AM
what i will say though, is that neo-bee uses a who-is guard, so i wont be using their service. if they cant be transparent about their business, and i cant find an address to slap them with a wet fish if they fraud me.. i wont touch them

+1


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: DaFockBro on March 06, 2014, 04:43:16 AM
https://i.imgur.com/38TToX4.jpg


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 06, 2014, 06:55:13 AM
OK, this is pure speculation, so mods please move this to the according forum if necessary.

Now, did anybody take a look at Mark's new business plan in hitting Europe?

Did anybody hear about Neo-bee? http://www.neo-bee.com/index.php/en/

Well, apparently their first reference to a Bitcoin website is: bitcoins.com

Which is owned by who????????

http://www.neo-bee.com/en/faqs/
scroll down till you see the reference links.

Again, this is just speculation....





I knew them two Mormon Bees Brothers were up to no good when I first met them in LV. I'm not sure, but I think that their dad is the patriarch of the clan.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 06, 2014, 06:57:43 AM
so if neo-bee referenced CNN news network, it means CNN owns neo-bee?

and that CNN are running off to cyprus because Neo-bee mentioned them?

.. im not seeing your point that there is any proof of the physical partnership/ ownership between karpeles and neo-bee.


what i will say though, is that neo-bee uses a who-is guard, so i wont be using their service. if they cant be transparent about their business, and i cant find an address to slap them with a wet fish if they fraud me.. i wont touch them

Actually, I've fucked up a few times with this exact same reasoning. Case in point, neo-bee is Bees Bros.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: sidhujag on March 06, 2014, 06:59:04 AM
No.

Why not?

Cyprus has always been the hideout for many thieves.
Believe me, I live in Cyprus.



Cyprus is the new money laundering and tax evasion place.

All of the shady bucket shop forex brokers work out of cyprus because of the relaxed laws that let them get away with murder indirectly.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: dave111223 on March 06, 2014, 07:10:13 AM
Wouldn't be the first time neo-bees has been involved with missing bitcoins on an exchange.

Read about Weexchange. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0)

Next thing you know Mark will be in Cyprus and Mtgox will be issuing a 6% payback.  It has worked for UKYO; here's a game plan for Mark:

- Move to Cyprus
- Issue a 6% refund
- Start a thread about working on a "solution"; fill the thread with shills and stockholm syndromer
- Let the community go around and around with the shills for 6 months while he quietly disappears from the face of the earth
- Every 6 months login to IRC and tell a few people that you are still working on some "resolution"


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Bit_Happy on March 06, 2014, 07:19:02 AM
Wouldn't be the first time neo-bees has been involved with missing bitcoins on an exchange.

Read about Weexchange. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0)

Next thing you know Mark will be in Cyprus and Mtgox will be issuing a 6% payback.  It has worked for UKYO; here's a game plan for Mark:

- Move to Cyprus
- Issue a 6% refund
- Start a thread about working on a "solution"; fill the thread with shills and stockholm syndromer
- Let the community go around and around with the shills for 6 months while he quietly disappears from the face of the earth
- Every 6 months login to IRC and tell a few people that you are still working on some "resolution"

So how/when do the honest people get to have fun?


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 06, 2014, 07:27:01 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.0


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: justusranvier on March 06, 2014, 07:49:29 AM
Wouldn't be the first time neo-bees has been involved with missing bitcoins on an exchange.

Read about Weexchange. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0)

Next thing you know Mark will be in Cyprus and Mtgox will be issuing a 6% payback.  It has worked for UKYO; here's a game plan for Mark:

- Move to Cyprus
- Issue a 6% refund
- Start a thread about working on a "solution"; fill the thread with shills and stockholm syndromer
- Let the community go around and around with the shills for 6 months while he quietly disappears from the face of the earth
- Every 6 months login to IRC and tell a few people that you are still working on some "resolution"

Ukyo showed up at the Dallas Bitcoin meetups several times last summer, before that thread, and then disappeared a few months later.

He talked about having just come back from helping Mark Karpelles get Mt Gox working again after the DDoS, had bad things to say about Marks's organizational and coding abilities, and told us Mark's side of the dispute with CoinLab (all the stuff that came out in the countersuit).

At the time he claimed to be working to get the necessary state-level MSB licensing and was preparing to have WeExchange take over the USD side of Mt Gox's businesses. (Do all the things CoinLab promised but never achieved). That clearly never panned out.

He was worried about the SEC and Bitfunder and was looking for an exit strategy.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: V4Vendettas on March 06, 2014, 08:02:54 AM
 :'(   I like the Neo-bee idea don't ruin this for me.  :'(


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 06, 2014, 08:33:26 AM
:'(   I like the Neo-bee idea don't ruin this for me.  :'(

If there is someone that loves the idea of neo-bee it's me.
It helps spread the word I have been trying to spread in my Country for a long time now ;)
Plus I get to shop from retail locations here using bitcoins.

That being said, I doubt that the neo-bee idea will go up in air even if my speculation is correct.




Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: V4Vendettas on March 06, 2014, 08:35:45 AM
:'(   I like the Neo-bee idea don't ruin this for me.  :'(

If there is someone that loves the idea of neo-bee it's me.
It helps spread the word I have been trying to spread in my Country for a long time now ;)
Plus I get to shop from retail locations here using bitcoins.

That being said, I doubt that the neo-bee idea will go up in air even if my speculation is correct.





You have no idea how much I wish I had a Neo-bee in my home town.  Really really want it to work out for you guys.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 06, 2014, 10:06:58 AM
More food for thoughts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 06, 2014, 10:10:23 AM
Wouldn't be the first time neo-bees has been involved with missing bitcoins on an exchange.

Read about Weexchange. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0)

Next thing you know Mark will be in Cyprus and Mtgox will be issuing a 6% payback.  It has worked for UKYO; here's a game plan for Mark:

- Move to Cyprus
- Issue a 6% refund
- Start a thread about working on a "solution"; fill the thread with shills and stockholm syndromer
- Let the community go around and around with the shills for 6 months while he quietly disappears from the face of the earth
- Every 6 months login to IRC and tell a few people that you are still working on some "resolution"

Thanks for pointing this out.
I had no idea about it before I made my speculation.

This is starting to look very weird.....


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Ominub on March 06, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
Yeah, what's funny is that bitcoins.com was registered in the year 2000.....

Randomly pretty much.

Gosh, M.K. was 15 years old in 2000. it has been 8 years before a launch of bitcoin system. If 1 + 1 still equal 2 :) .. I think he is possible candidate for Satoshi Nakamoto.

And where are our money from gox?


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 06, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
Wow, hold on there....

Under no circumstances I have said that Mark is Satoshi.
He does NOT have the wits to be Satoshi.

I have made that clear on another post when somenone claimed speculated that Satoshi is Mark.

Also, my speculation is that your money from Gox has been already "laundered" and its under a new name.
And judging by the new name's history (after recent clues) it is very possible.



Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Ominub on March 06, 2014, 12:00:53 PM
Wow, hold on there....

Under no circumstances I have said that Mark is Satoshi.
He does NOT have the wits to be Satoshi.

I have made that clear on another post when somenone claimed speculated that Satoshi is Mark.

Also, my speculation is that your money from Gox has been already "laundered" and its under a new name.
And judging by the new name's history (after recent clues) it is very possible.



Mkay :) ...


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Lauda on March 08, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
People have been tracking a good portion of the coins from a known Gox address, so it seems that someone still has access to them.


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 08, 2014, 03:05:58 PM
People have been tracking a good portion of the coins from a known Gox address, so it seems that someone still has access to them.

The question is: Where is that money going?


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: Lauda on March 08, 2014, 03:12:05 PM
People have been tracking a good portion of the coins from a known Gox address, so it seems that someone still has access to them.

The question is: Where is that money going?
One day, to an exchange possibly?


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: S4VV4S on March 08, 2014, 03:36:28 PM
People have been tracking a good portion of the coins from a known Gox address, so it seems that someone still has access to them.

The question is: Where is that money going?
One day, to an exchange possibly?

That is not a possible situation, that is a definite situation  ;)


Title: Re: I think I know where all the Gox money went.....
Post by: ManeBjorn on March 09, 2014, 04:10:31 AM
I think I can partially set your minds at ease at least as far as Neo & Bee are stating.
They responded to me and said they are not involved with Mark or Tibanne.
I was quite nervous myself at first as I am looking into those types of services for a story and then I saw this thread.
At least I have an answer so far.
I wrote about it here.
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/09/many-tendrils-mark-karpeles-paranoia-cause/ (http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/09/many-tendrils-mark-karpeles-paranoia-cause/)

I would ask if any of you know anymore of Ukyo going to Gox to help them after the DDoS attack please PM me.