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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: deception1359 on September 11, 2018, 06:09:22 AM



Title: Translation scammer
Post by: deception1359 on September 11, 2018, 06:09:22 AM
Hello.
I知 Vietnamese translator, you can find my portfolio here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1esVxzocUhDUYgpjFEHQ8PsaT4AILlK_IhiHZTOGs58s/

Cheater name: Hang Vivian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1381990)

My first topic: ANN of QUICK PROJECT (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45858.0). Created on: September 03, 2018
He uses my translation with some editing text: Link (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45912.0). Created on: September 04, 2018

Today, I found a cheater, he stolen my translation, with some editing text.
And all the image paths that he uses in the topic match the image I used.
You can see the video I recorded, in case he deleted it.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAA9ZP_BLw


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: joniboini on September 11, 2018, 09:25:56 AM
Looks like a pretty solid plagiarism to me. Even his image link is the same as yours, just like you said.
Archived for reference:
https://archive.fo/VYVAQ | deception thread
https://archive.fo/kzAZv | hang vivian thread

Have you contacted the mod on Bitcoingarden? I think he deserves a ban.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: deception1359 on September 11, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
Looks like a pretty solid plagiarism to me. Even his image link is the same as yours, just like you said.
Archived for reference:
https://archive.fo/VYVAQ | deception thread
https://archive.fo/kzAZv | hang vivian thread

Have you contacted the mod on Bitcoingarden? I think he deserves a ban.

I forgot that. Thank you for reminding me.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: Findingnemo on September 11, 2018, 02:26:40 PM
Looks like a pretty solid plagiarism to me. Even his image link is the same as yours, just like you said.
Archived for reference:
https://archive.fo/VYVAQ | deception thread
https://archive.fo/kzAZv | hang vivian thread

Have you contacted the mod on Bitcoingarden? I think he deserves a ban.

I forgot that. Thank you for reminding me.
You can just report those threads with appropriate comments and proofs soon the scammer will get ban if he did plagiarism.

If that takes time he might deserves a red tag until that,hope some DT will tag him soon.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: deception1359 on September 13, 2018, 01:04:20 AM
He plagiarized, punishable?


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: Avirunes on September 13, 2018, 02:25:36 AM
He plagiarized, punishable?


He plagiarized in other forum so it has nothing to do with this forum so I don't think moderators/staff here will do anything.

Remaining only DT can tag him as untrustworthy meanwhile. Anyway I have already tagged him.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: Hang Vivian on September 13, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
please, I'm accepted to be translation, not him
https://i.imgur.com/35uejHN.png


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: phongqq on September 13, 2018, 04:28:26 PM
Hello.
I知 Vietnamese translator, you can find my portfolio here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1esVxzocUhDUYgpjFEHQ8PsaT4AILlK_IhiHZTOGs58s/

Cheater name: Hang Vivian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1381990)

My first topic: ANN of QUICK PROJECT (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45858.0). Created on: September 03, 2018
He uses my translation with some editing text: Link (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45912.0). Created on: September 04, 2018

Today, I found a cheater, he stolen my translation, with some editing text.
And all the image paths that he uses in the topic match the image I used.
You can see the video I recorded, in case he deleted it.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAA9ZP_BLw


You carries fire in one hand and water in the other.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: Hang Vivian on September 13, 2018, 04:28:38 PM
and I don't understand, why a translator do not be accepted still do it ?


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: Hang Vivian on September 13, 2018, 04:36:18 PM
Hello.
I知 Vietnamese translator, you can find my portfolio here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1esVxzocUhDUYgpjFEHQ8PsaT4AILlK_IhiHZTOGs58s/

Cheater name: Hang Vivian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1381990)

My first topic: ANN of QUICK PROJECT (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45858.0). Created on: September 03, 2018
He uses my translation with some editing text: Link (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45912.0). Created on: September 04, 2018

Today, I found a cheater, he stolen my translation, with some editing text.
And all the image paths that he uses in the topic match the image I used.
You can see the video I recorded, in case he deleted it.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAA9ZP_BLw



So please explain, why did you start translate while you are not accepted to do it ?


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: blackcat911 on September 13, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
Hello.
I知 Vietnamese translator, you can find my portfolio here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1esVxzocUhDUYgpjFEHQ8PsaT4AILlK_IhiHZTOGs58s/

Cheater name: Hang Vivian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1381990)

My first topic: ANN of QUICK PROJECT (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45858.0). Created on: September 03, 2018
He uses my translation with some editing text: Link (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45912.0). Created on: September 04, 2018

Today, I found a cheater, he stolen my translation, with some editing text.
And all the image paths that he uses in the topic match the image I used.
You can see the video I recorded, in case he deleted it.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAA9ZP_BLw


so, can you let everyone here know, why you translate ? I don't see your name on accepted translators ?


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: bulahp on September 13, 2018, 05:02:29 PM
as the picture @Hang Vivian provided, can you show proof that you received that task from project's team or from project's BM ?


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 13, 2018, 05:15:14 PM
What am I missing here?  Is it even relevant whether OP was accepted to do the translation?  It looks like he did it and then Hang Vivian stole it--though I don't speak Vietnamese and can't totally verify the theft myself.  What it appears is that he created the page first and it was copied a day later.

I don't hear Hang Vivian mounting any sort of defense against this.

Edit:  No answer to my question, so I assume either he doesn't understand it or doesn't have a valid defense.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: deception1359 on September 14, 2018, 12:52:16 AM
Hello.
I知 Vietnamese translator, you can find my portfolio here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1esVxzocUhDUYgpjFEHQ8PsaT4AILlK_IhiHZTOGs58s/

Cheater name: Hang Vivian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1381990)

My first topic: ANN of QUICK PROJECT (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45858.0). Created on: September 03, 2018
He uses my translation with some editing text: Link (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=45912.0). Created on: September 04, 2018

Today, I found a cheater, he stolen my translation, with some editing text.
And all the image paths that he uses in the topic match the image I used.
You can see the video I recorded, in case he deleted it.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAA9ZP_BLw



Explain for every know why you started translate while you are not accepted to do it ?

Hey, You can see https://t.me/Bounty_Support_Group is Bounty manager of this project.
I'm part of the management team, which is why I translated the QUICK project.



Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: withlove99 on September 15, 2018, 01:11:40 PM
Is there a way to punish such plagiarism? must take measures to prevent this incident.
And I also often encounter cases others took my bitcointalk account to participate in other bounty programs.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: deception1359 on September 15, 2018, 03:02:26 PM
Is there a way to punish such plagiarism? must take measures to prevent this incident.
And I also often encounter cases others took my bitcointalk account to participate in other bounty programs.

Please report them with evidence as I did.


Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: joniboini on September 16, 2018, 11:56:50 AM
Is there a way to punish such plagiarism? must take measures to prevent this incident.

There is, and already applied here. Permanent ban.

And I also often encounter cases others took my bitcointalk account to participate in other bounty programs.

There is no other way to do this except you have to report that case to the BM. Unless BM changes the way how to participate in a campaign, such as providing proof of authentication, then there is no way to prevent someone use your account and steal your work while providing their own address.





Title: Re: Translation scammer
Post by: Avirunes on September 16, 2018, 03:56:37 PM
Is there a way to punish such plagiarism? must take measures to prevent this incident.

There is, and already applied here. Permanent ban.

I don't think that it would be applied here since he copied from other forum and pasted on other forum. I think bitcoingarden staff already carried out an action since I don't find the thread that was plagiarized there.

And I also often encounter cases others took my bitcointalk account to participate in other bounty programs.

There is no other way to do this except you have to report that case to the BM. Unless BM changes the way how to participate in a campaign, such as providing proof of authentication, then there is no way to prevent someone use your account and steal your work while providing their own address.

I think proof of authentication by posting tweets, shares link is good way to verify but it is something that spams the thread a lot which is not good IMO. Plus it is of no use if there are careless managers who choose rather to count everyone in and skip some hard work over checking and verifying work and eliminating cheaters.