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Title: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: masterkiller on September 11, 2018, 11:37:41 AM
I read a few articles yesterday about the price of Bitcoin that touched the price of USD 24,000 in Iran, see the following article:
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https://cryptoslate.com/local-bitcoin-price-hits-record-high-of-24000-in-iran/

even up to 26000 usd
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https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/06/bitcoin-price-surge-iran/

you can see all the market price here in irani local exchange
Quote
https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR

the questions are:
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 11, 2018, 11:58:21 AM
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?

It isn't. The "news" that Bitcoin was selling for $24,000 in Iran was based on the incorrect exchange rate - the subsidized exchange rate of 1 USD to 42k IRR set by the government for imports of certain goods. The actual exchange rate of 1 USD to 140k IRR gives the real price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: masterkiller on September 11, 2018, 12:03:06 PM
if it is a price that is not true, why is media coverage so viral that it makes us think positively about the imminent increase in Bitcoin prices. but that's possible, everything doesn't rule out the possibility. everything can be happen


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: LastHope99 on September 11, 2018, 12:09:20 PM
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?

It isn't. The "news" that Bitcoin was selling for $24,000 in Iran was based on the incorrect exchange rate - the subsidized exchange rate of 1 USD to 42k IRR set by the government for imports of certain goods. The actual exchange rate of 1 USD to 140k IRR gives the real price.

It may hit any price on a non-liquid exchange with a squeeze. Declaring these prices is a way of manipulation.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: seoincorporation on September 11, 2018, 04:14:36 PM
If you go to google as search 'irr to bitcoin' it shows a table where 1 btc = 263259397.47 irr.

Then i take a look to localbitcoin and you are right https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR 873,245,733.56 IRR / BTC... For that rate you are right, they are selling bitcoins closeto $26k, if that's the scenario wait for a price bump.

But why oeleo say have some sense:


It isn't. The "news" that Bitcoin was selling for $24,000 in Iran was based on the incorrect exchange rate - the subsidized exchange rate of 1 USD to 42k IRR set by the government for imports of certain goods. The actual exchange rate of 1 USD to 140k IRR gives the real price.

That way the 873k irr price isn't crazy at all.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: tadzio on September 11, 2018, 04:17:46 PM
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?

It isn't. The "news" that Bitcoin was selling for $24,000 in Iran was based on the incorrect exchange rate - the subsidized exchange rate of 1 USD to 42k IRR set by the government for imports of certain goods. The actual exchange rate of 1 USD to 140k IRR gives the real price.
Thank you for a clear and simple answer to this.  I was initially confused, and read so much random stuff before skimming the thread again. 

Haha, I wish that this (mis)information caused a pump today, but no dice :(


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Mpamaegbu on September 11, 2018, 04:21:25 PM
OP, a similar thread already exist here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5017699.msg45262480#msg45262480 . You may want to lock this up except you intend on having a duplicate topic run parallel.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Kaznachej123 on September 11, 2018, 04:21:54 PM
I read a few articles yesterday about the price of Bitcoin that touched the price of USD 24,000 in Iran, see the following article:
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https://cryptoslate.com/local-bitcoin-price-hits-record-high-of-24000-in-iran/

even up to 26000 usd
Quote
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/06/bitcoin-price-surge-iran/

you can see all the market price here in irani local exchange
Quote
https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR

the questions are:
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?

    I suspect that this is a misleading story. I suspect that when people use Iranian currency to buy BTC and then compare the artificially high "official" exchange rate for Iranian to US currency, it looks like people were spending $24,000 for BTC. But, as the article alludes to, the street value of Iranian currency is much lower than the government's stated exchange rate.  :-\


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: BALIK on September 11, 2018, 04:24:29 PM
If you look carefully, you will find that the countries that currently suffering from hyperinflation or under authoritarian governence are also the countries that have the highest difference in BTC price. Of course, if you know somebody super trustworthy who can remit money into and out of the country then you have a great arbing opportunity, but that's easier said than done.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: mafiajohngotti7 on September 11, 2018, 09:09:09 PM
What should we so he took off would be nice ! Interestingly why in Iran is growing and we have no )


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: jepoy1109 on September 11, 2018, 09:14:53 PM
this is a rip off from Iranian new investor if its true its almost 4x the current exchange price of Bitcoin on Coinbase. this is more like a manipulation to rip some money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: adamantasaurus on September 11, 2018, 10:21:50 PM
Man I could have got a great deal buying in Iran why didnt I?!?! THis is ridiculous how could this even happen?


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: countryfree on September 11, 2018, 10:50:02 PM
Poor articles written by stupid people. The price of BTC in Iran is exactly the same as anywhere else in the world. You just need to know that Iranian people do not have dollars. They use the local Iranian currency, which is sharply down, compared to the US dollar. I guess some people have calculated that price with wrong data. Quite likely the official exchange rate, which is fixed by the Iranian government, but totally out of touch with reality.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: QuestionQuest on September 11, 2018, 10:57:56 PM
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?

It isn't. The "news" that Bitcoin was selling for $24,000 in Iran was based on the incorrect exchange rate - the subsidized exchange rate of 1 USD to 42k IRR set by the government for imports of certain goods. The actual exchange rate of 1 USD to 140k IRR gives the real price.

Yes, absolute right. And the inflation is to the moon and mars, too ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: onaiwusun on September 11, 2018, 11:01:32 PM
Iran's is much more isolated from the rest of the world, unfortunately so, too many sanctions and so I doubt if they have access to buy from international market as they cannot deal directly on USD for same reasons


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Alex_Kidd on September 11, 2018, 11:24:26 PM
Well, those values are possible only because the Iran official currency is losing value day after day, and they can't get dollars when they sell bitcoins, so of course they sell them at a higher price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: mohammedmattar on September 11, 2018, 11:30:35 PM
I read a few articles yesterday about the price of Bitcoin that touched the price of USD 24,000 in Iran, see the following article:
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https://cryptoslate.com/local-bitcoin-price-hits-record-high-of-24000-in-iran/

even up to 26000 usd
Quote
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/06/bitcoin-price-surge-iran/

you can see all the market price here in irani local exchange
Quote
https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR

the questions are:
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?

It's simple, dear
The exchange rate is the password to understand this apparently
In Iran there are two exchange rates for the dollar
The official price is less than 1/3 the real price on the street
I do not think the Iranian people are naive to buy BTC x4 almost.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Hercerays on September 14, 2018, 05:11:23 PM
Yes those qualities are conceivable simply because the Iran official cash is losing esteem for quite a while, and they can't get dollars when they offer bitcoins so obviously they offer them at a higher cost.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: coppied on September 15, 2018, 04:58:42 PM
Actually in case of price this is same but this news was incorrect based on exchange rate which is caused by many impasses  also the price of btc is same in IRAN.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: r32godzilla on September 15, 2018, 05:54:53 PM
I think that it was earlier in south Korea bitcoin prices were much higher than market price.Recently the Iranian government had decided to declare bitcoin mining as an industry.Also earlier,iran government discussed to use bitcoin as secondary currency in order to bypass US sanctions.Now Iran is moving closer to be a bitcoin friendly country.It has been realised by its citizens and that's why such a huge demand for bitcoin and increase in its price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: masterkiller on September 18, 2018, 02:24:08 AM
if it is like that then this can be a business field for us crypto traders, by the way we all buy bitcoin on the global market and immediately sell it in the iran market to get multiple profits, but unfortunately some sources say we can't do that, only Iranians are buying and selling bitcoin in Iran


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: ningrumxxi on September 18, 2018, 03:39:09 AM
I read a few articles yesterday about the price of Bitcoin that touched the price of USD 24,000 in Iran, see the following article:
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https://cryptoslate.com/local-bitcoin-price-hits-record-high-of-24000-in-iran/

even up to 26000 usd
Quote
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/06/bitcoin-price-surge-iran/

you can see all the market price here in irani local exchange
Quote
https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR

the questions are:
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?
Such an event is impossible if a country is not problematic, because the Iranian currency is still overshadowed by sanctions from America, America cannot regulate bitcoin but can regulate dollar demand in Iran, which is the government's difficulty in providing dollars to buy bitcoin, the value of the Iranian currency can vary greatly to produce expensive bitcoin prices.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: layoutph on September 18, 2018, 03:42:22 AM
If this is true,  it wont last for long.  It will be manipulated by arbitrage practicers.  Another thing is you must be from their country to enable you to use their local exchange site.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: dohh on September 18, 2018, 04:28:25 AM
I read a few articles yesterday about the price of Bitcoin that touched the price of USD 24,000 in Iran, see the following article:
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https://cryptoslate.com/local-bitcoin-price-hits-record-high-of-24000-in-iran/

even up to 26000 usd
Quote
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/06/bitcoin-price-surge-iran/

you can see all the market price here in irani local exchange
Quote
https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR

the questions are:
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?

It isnt. Dont You think, if it was like that, all decent news channels would write about it? More source criticism, please...


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: admosfir on September 18, 2018, 06:15:07 AM
how can this case happen? even though what I know is that the price of bitcoin around the world is same, if what happens is a fact , there will be many bitcoin holders who sell it in that exchange, what exchange is it?


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: BlockchainGod on September 18, 2018, 06:20:35 AM
I think this is a price anomaly caused by the fact that Iran has large commissions for withdrawal of funds to the stock exchange.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Vipersia on September 18, 2018, 06:31:02 PM
It mus be a good news for Irinian investors but this might be for inflanatin and beside this I think If you think someone super trusted you can send money in the country then it is good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: pixie85 on September 18, 2018, 06:38:33 PM
There's a video of Alessio Rastani trying to exchange physical pounds for rials in Iran and nobody wants to buy because the exchange rates are so bad. Fiat exchanges are literally closing their doors because they're afraid of being bought out by foreigners. at current rates you can buy a good meal at a restaurant for $5. For the same money in the US you can get a coffee and a donut. The rates can be real but it doesn't mean that if you put coins for sale people will buy. $26000 is a fortune for them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: omorfi on September 18, 2018, 07:56:57 PM
I have read about that news on some sites at the last week. That could be fat-finger-error with a huge instant up price tail that caused by a huge volume order ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Patriode on September 18, 2018, 08:30:51 PM
I think that, since the Iranian people do not have the dollar, they use the local currency so we can see the difference in price of Bitcoin. Beside this we might make a wrong calculation mistake.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Gary Levanevskii on September 19, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
I think this is not very good. It says how bad the situation in Iran is and how difficult it is for the population to own bitcoins. Perhaps in the future the situation will change but I think Iran is still far behind to implement the blockchain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: mazdafunsun on September 19, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?

You are a Sr.Member in this forum how it is possible that you have missed this situation before?
There have been numerous accasions when this have happen:
1)Some country in South Africa, matbe it was  Zimbawe
2)And how you did miss Japan prices while in the bubble?


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: znation on September 19, 2018, 12:54:09 PM
I have read about that news on some sites at the last week. That could be fat-finger-error with a huge instant up price tail that caused by a huge volume order ?
I also think like you, but will return to the price corresponding to the present.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: drm on September 19, 2018, 01:06:36 PM
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?

You are a Sr.Member in this forum how it is possible that you have missed this situation before?
There have been numerous accasions when this have happen:
1)Some country in South Africa, matbe it was  Zimbawe
2)And how you did miss Japan prices while in the bubble?

these news articles about bitcoin being 25k in zimbabwe and 18k in nigeria etc are usually just bullshit.

Just like it's not true in this case either.

why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?

It isn't. The "news" that Bitcoin was selling for $24,000 in Iran was based on the incorrect exchange rate - the subsidized exchange rate of 1 USD to 42k IRR set by the government for imports of certain goods. The actual exchange rate of 1 USD to 140k IRR gives the real price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: aizen10 on September 19, 2018, 02:50:48 PM
I read a few articles yesterday about the price of Bitcoin that touched the price of USD 24,000 in Iran, see the following article:
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https://cryptoslate.com/local-bitcoin-price-hits-record-high-of-24000-in-iran/

even up to 26000 usd
Quote
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/06/bitcoin-price-surge-iran/

you can see all the market price here in irani local exchange
Quote
https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR

the questions are:
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?

Its because they have KYC on their own exchange site and cannot trade or use other exchange site aside form their own. Meaning as they want to get involve in crypto mostly in bitcoin, they accept the risk and the price will sky rocket on thei own country. Hoping that this will also happen in the globe.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: vnck25 on September 19, 2018, 02:52:21 PM
I think this is incorrect something to do with an exchange error in Iranian currency (Iranian Rial ) and BTC value. Anyways I assume that the price of BTC has to be somewhat higher because of the adverse restrictions in Iran. Hopefully this error in exchanges will be rectified soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Sony.UK on September 19, 2018, 03:02:27 PM
All the articles cannot be taken as true.

If the Bitcoin touched 24k USD then all people will be sold their money at that time itself.

I really want that to happen in the market for sure and I am expecting the bitcoin may reach this destination value in couple of months.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: RomertL on September 19, 2018, 03:21:33 PM
For Iran people bitcoin it is a great opportunity to earn good money. So cryptocurrency has a bigger value in their country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Daniel91 on September 19, 2018, 03:29:13 PM
All the articles cannot be taken as true.

If the Bitcoin touched 24k USD then all people will be sold their money at that time itself.

I really want that to happen in the market for sure and I am expecting the bitcoin may reach this destination value in couple of months.

I also don't believe this news.
There is no real reason that btc price can be so much different in Iraq than in the rest of the world.
There is no country or government behind bitcoin so nobody can manipulate price in some country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: BlackFly on September 19, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
Isn't the price of bitcoin same as all over the world. Since when iran has different type of bitcoin. This article making people more confusing. It's like result of miscalculation.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Cryptogid on September 19, 2018, 10:20:39 PM
I read a few articles yesterday about the price of Bitcoin that touched the price of USD 24,000 in Iran, see the following article:
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https://cryptoslate.com/local-bitcoin-price-hits-record-high-of-24000-in-iran/

even up to 26000 usd
Quote
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/06/bitcoin-price-surge-iran/

you can see all the market price here in irani local exchange
Quote
https://localbitcoins.com/country/IR

the questions are:
why is the price of Bitcoin in Iran is more expensive than global prices?
Is it really possible for a country to determine the selling price of Bitcoin?
..its not possible,i really think its as a result of misrepresented datas, in the exchanges.or something went wrong..


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Jannn on September 19, 2018, 11:03:16 PM
Beautiful arbing opportunity, but getting money across Iranian borders is not easy or so I hear. I have an Iranian friend who told me that there  is string rules about how money is moved in and out of the country, making it very difficult to work with.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: mfyilmaz on September 19, 2018, 11:09:29 PM
The thing is the real exchange price of something is determined by the market and in a world where you can buy nearly anything with usd and almost nothing with iranian money its clear, that the USA can controll the exchange rate of their currency and so they can feign a demand thats actually not there and because every trade in the real world is based on us dollar the supply can almost never exceed the demand... and thats the whole trick so they can print more and more dollars as they go..


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: shield132 on September 19, 2018, 11:12:21 PM
Did they found water in bitcoin? If yes, then we can expect high prices in saudy arabia too, be ready for next turn. At the moment I can't say anything on news but want to remind one thing: everyone may remember when cointelegraph caused fall in btc's price. This happened because korean exchangers had different price than rest of world (higher or lower - can't remembet).


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Al-e_x on September 19, 2018, 11:52:59 PM
I doubt that information, I think that a new country that legalizes bitcoin has no such potential.

Even Venezuela, until today Venezuela is still adapting to the crypto world, to create an effective crypto market is not easy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: FactAlways on September 20, 2018, 12:14:14 AM
Wait I don't understand, does this mean bitcoin has different market prices for different countries, because the price here is just 6320 USD


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Ucy on September 20, 2018, 12:22:13 AM
The whole thing is surprising to me too. It happened in Zimbabwe prior to their coup.
I thought if Bitcoin was decentralized the price should be flat everywhere.
Maybe such valuation depends on the stability of the local currencies and in relation to the dollar availability.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: mangsitin on September 20, 2018, 12:39:09 AM
That really surprised me, in my country alone Bitcoin is only around $ 6411 now, following the market prices in the world. I am very confident that for the future the price of Bitcoin in all parts of the world will reach the best price as in the present Iranian country. I wish if it was fantastic for prices in Iran today. I praise that


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: poletando on September 20, 2018, 01:11:20 AM
I think its not true, we can check the price of bitcoin globally in the coinmarketcap.com in that website we can see the price different between the one market with other market, for 25000 USD? I think its impossible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: room237 on September 20, 2018, 02:00:29 AM
Can Bitcoin even really have massively different prices in different parts of the work.  Doesn't make sense.  I see that this was a false news story but I don't believe the prices will diverge by country much in the future.  If you have internet you should have access to fairly prices Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: raidarksword on September 20, 2018, 02:07:23 AM
Why price of bitcoin reaches like that in Iran wherein that country not really known for crypto currency adaptation. Maybe a misleading article or just try to hype the price of bitcoin to increase investors, i guess. But whether if it's true, then it would be a good news for us holders, believers and investors.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Flor1982 on September 20, 2018, 03:21:42 AM
This is unreliable souce and no one will believe this, just imagine that it is impossible for this nation to have a lot of dollar reserves so that they could cater many Bitcoin to fiat conversion in the future. So better do a deep research first before you believe to this non sense.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Nightingale2 on September 20, 2018, 06:55:42 PM
I have question. Isn't the cost of bitcoin same as all over the world? Since when iran has distinctive sort of bitcoin. This article making individuals more confounding. It's like result of erroneous conclusion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: Brutea on September 20, 2018, 07:15:44 PM
I have address. Isn't the taken a toll of bitcoin same as all over the world? Since when iran has unmistakable sort of bitcoin. This article making people more bewildering. It's like result of incorrect conclusion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: digitalcryptocoin on September 20, 2018, 07:24:45 PM
Wait I don't understand, does this mean bitcoin has different market prices for different countries, because the price here is just 6320 USD

Off course. Why not ?

Bitcoin is decentralized digital token, which can be evaluated in fiat currency globally. And as this is decentralized, no one control its price fluctuation. Buyer and seller within circumstances can make P2P transaction considering Bitcoin is commodity. And according to law of demand and supply price be fluctuated on market conditions and interest of buyer and seller solely.


Title: Re: Bitcoin in Iran touch 26.000 USD
Post by: IslandLady on September 21, 2018, 07:03:59 PM
This is a good news for those investor who hold this coin. But I don’t know how it is possible in Iran. I think its happen because of exchange rate.