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Whether you are a day trader or you trade once in a while, you have to align yourself with the smart money, not the dumb money, surf along side the whales,not against them, trading is war and you have to choose your  battles correctly

When we trading on the crypto exchange we only possible to make profit when bullish market, and when bearish market is better to move the money in to others asset. When market crash, all crypto also going down and this is different with stocks market, in one periode each stocks has different price action, some stocks on up trend and others on down trend so make more easy to diversify risk. But in crypto the price action of all crypto is nearly the same, so i think we should be also learn to trade in others asset to avoid loss from bearish market of crypto.

Avoid FOMO and greedy,  and quit from the market if the price of all crypto was pumped,  and to make money from bearish market we should be trade on margin trading by short the price.

You have said it currently and I agree with you that " trading is war and you have to choose your battles correctly " some people especially the newbies thought that they can control the market but what they did not realize and learn is that the Cryptocoins market has it own mind and no one can control it.  If you want to succeed in trading you most has the mind to follow the trend.  If you go against the trend you lose and if you follow the trend you make profits.

That is now most difficult question because of unstable market

CFD Trading is one of the ways to earn with this bear market. If there was a binary trading exchange that is reliable today, many of us will probably go there to bet BTC to dip every minute. Margin trading should be the way to go. Bitfinex offers this, I'm just not good at it.


The price so far has been stable for weeks, there is just uncertain where it will go in the next weeks. Trading with whales is riskier, its not like there is a copy trade now. Most of those projects which promise to have copy trading isn't yet working.

Obviously they are getting whales tag because we are giving away our money when it comes to the down trend or bears market. There is no way we can stop all the people from these tracks because they are almost uncontrollable people out there.
However, one can start with themselves by making investment at the right time and making proper HODL of the investment made by us.
If one has to profit then market, bull, bear all these things will look like nothing. And surely whales follow these mantra only for their successful investment.  :)

Manner of approach of a whole lot of people to things is what makes them to always screw up eventually. So many newbie traders today are so much eager to earn than learn and even in the process of earning, they are so much in a haste to make quick easy money but forgetting that nothing good comes easy. People should know that trading is a profession and the only way you can make profit from any market is to have an understanding of what you are doing and try as much as possible to gain some experience from practice first. There is no shortcut to success and those who look for shortcuts always get burned at the end.

Most importantly, seek knowledge. It is only when you know something, which you will be able to make some certain decisions based on that knowledge. Making money from a bullish or a bearish market depends on your level of knowledge as well as your experience to trade any of the markets.

I usually say to take your time to get books to read, make sure you understand them and try as much as possible to jot out some strategies you will want to make use of, practice first with demo accounts and get good with those strategies in all markets, and then if there is a need, which I am sure there would always be, then fine tune the strategies until you get a better result.

being us-stable is the only reason why traders can make profit! otherwise if prices were stable then there would have been no profit to be made. for instance if you buy something now for $1 and a month from now that thing is still worth $1 you made no profit. but if it is unstable and reaches $2 then you can double your money.

however you should not confuse being un-stable with pump and dumps and unpredictability. being unpredictable is what nobody wants because it leads to losses. and the manipulation that we see among altcoins is one of the biggest reasons for it.

I do quite notice this from the movements of Bitcoin, when Bitcoin drops then turns into sideways it would often to up again so buy at the sideways. Vice versa if it goes up.

Focusing on the target profit that you must get when trading is the main factor. I always found failure because of the mistakes they made, changing a strategy without doing in-depth analysis and allowing the losses to be gained because they are sure the price conditions will rise again and the mistakes always made by a trader.

Someone will establish the strategy he chooses when trading due to a knowledge he has. He entered with predictions he made and carried out various analyzes of the price conditions at that time, and he took profit with the analysis he had planned well.

So as if everyone trades based on their understanding and knowledge, they will not be afraid of someone who manipulates the market and whales though.

If you know what the whales can do you can just pick up a few of their leftover crumbs, but it's no easy task predicting exactly what they're doing or in saying that the market will remain bullish or bearish. The thing with the crypto market is people often lose out by trying to profit too much when they could wait until the picture is clearer (foregoing some potential profit) but then step in and be far more sure of a profit.

Yes, trading is war and need to battle correctly. Most of the people lost their money from trading because they become greedy or cannot control emotion. Trading is not only buying high and sell low because of sometimes its law never works. Trade always depend on bitcoin trend because the crypto market depends on price up-down so always focus on bitcoin price chart, and follow other exchangers.

trading if we only follow the market flow, but suddenly the market changes conditions whether it's due to FUD or manipulation, we will still lose, it would be better if we stopped for FOMO, most beginner traders would stay away from crypto because they were wrong, Crypto is volatile and cannot be compared to trading stocks

You have to select your weapons. You can't really invest into everything and hope that they will go up all together at once, right now the market is stagnant and unless the whole market goes after a huge bull than you will not have a chance of making any decent return while we are here.

You need to focus on getting one or two coins that you believe in will rising and buy them and if the price of those coins x2 or x3 than you will have to get out and find new coins. That is the only way you can make money with these types of stagnant markets. While we are on a bull there is absolutely no way to lose money aside from getting scammed, if you invest into stuff like btc-eth-dash-xmr-ripple and so forth than you will make profits, however on a bear market only way to make profits is to actually bet on the shorts to make money for dropping of the price.

There are really nice methods one can use either during bear or bull times to get some nice profit. Choose your trading plan very well and execute it according to it. Trade breakout coins and not every coin you see out there. Follow this and you will get some profit.

Trade is a war first of all with yourself! As they open the vile and cunning feelings. Greed, fear, excitement-all this must be controlled in order not to get into the pit!

Staying away from trading at this time is the best for sanity. Not a lot of momentum in trades these days, so easy for the market to go against you. I'll rather preserve my capital than lose it to uncertain trades.

Trading has never and will never be a kinda stroll in the park,its about risks,whether it's the bear or the bull period as both could change anytime,presenting the other..
I do not see any reason to avoid trading right now,its most times advisable to get in at this present market condition and purchase at reduced prices
Are you just getting to know about the unpredictability of this network,there are no certainties,if you wanna store your money(with the same value),then a bank will do just fine

If trading is really a war then we should be better than those whales and if we want to earn big then we should defeat them. But I guess playing a long with them is also a smart choice.

Agree and do not agree with your statement,
I agree with risk part, but I do not agree with your statement asking him to store it in the bank.
peoples have a different kind of strategy, some of us can trade even though the price is going up or down. while some people only trade it when the trend is good or in the bull.
he said that because he wanted to preserve his capital for the upcoming trend when the trend changes he can use his capital to start his position while if he stores it in the bank. He can not use it to take a position when the trend changes which will cause him to lose an opportunity to get profit.

Trading is never a simple task, there are a lot of things to learn and to analyse, the theory of trading is simple but the execution ia really complicated, every one want to make money with trading and surf along with whales seems like a good idea, but if suddenly the whales decided to change tide then we can suffer huge lost, so in trading we need to be extra careful if we want to surf along with the whales, because once the whales dump, it will take a long time to recover

we must follow the market not to fight the market, because we dont know who cntrol and manipulates the prices in the market, do not be greedy when the opportunity comes, then sell it. when the price weakens, do not resistto hold and think the price will recover soon, dont do that, you have to do something..

Yes, it is very good to follow the market instead of bothering about the prices, after purchases we need to hold them a certain period of time. We don't know who is managing the market but surely it will affect your portfolio if you panic at that moment, Crypto market will recover on timely manner we need to stay until the prices start increasing.

When we say trading it is not something that we can earn fast here, the market in trading was to unpredictable and this things knew of the traders. Now in terms of crypto trading whether bull or bear we can probably earn on these two, as long as you know the basic things about in doing trade, especially if you do day trade. So if you're not sure about in day trade, I suggest you to go thru become a bullish.

I mean not like that, if you are a holder it's not a problem to hold it, but for a short term trader certainly you cant hold back for a long time, after all we don't know how long it will hold and wait for prices to recover, we have to follow the market meaning when prices fall do not force to hold it, because on the other time you can just buy at a cheaper price if you want to sell it before

in current market satuation i think its better to buy potential coins and hold its for long term because price of the almost all coins are pretty cheap so i think its good opportunity for investment in cryptocurrency market

The best way to earn during the bear market is just to buy potential altcoins during the dip. It is risky to trade against the whales, as you have said it. It is also difficult to base your decisions on TA since the market had been moving in a different way.

You dont earn when you buy  because you spend your money  . you only earn when you sell but you cannot also sell whe the market is on dip therfor it isnt possible to profit in the form of trading nor investing .

The only way to earn on this current market trend is to try and apply for a sig campaign or bounties  .  you only need to invest your time on these activities and you can then earn on a designated date as stated on their rules .

yes, what you say is true. I am a person who trades occasionally and I only use a few moments when the market moves easily predictable. And so far this method is good for me.

but if you only follow the flow of the market without knowing the risks going forward, it is tantamount to suicide, the potential assets for recovery are 50:50 when BTC and many other major companies start bearish. When prices reach dip, it's better to be more careful, it could only be a bull trap

Follow the flow does not mean following fully without regard to certain things, here I am more inclined to say flexible, that is a better word. you must be flexible with market conditions, always analyze so that you are not stuck with certain conditions on the market..

I agree. It shouldn't only be buy during dip and sell during an upward movement. If you can't be flexible then most likely you'll end up like those still waiting to recover. Unless you're planning for  long term hold, you have to learn how to react to market swings.

I think it is how you time and go about your investments and ventures. What's key here is you know when to do your business. Timing basically is the secret. I mean, say for example, if you known when to buy, when to hold and, most importantly, when to sell, it gives you the power and capacity to rid yourself of the probable losses you may encounter in this very difficult market all the while opening yourself to many opportunities to gain profit and returns with the least hindrance and resistance you could possibly get.

It is just like you are fighting a real whale in real life which is technically you don't have a match except if you do bring some guns. Treat the whales as your own boss if you like that term or choose a comfortable one but just stick to them and you will get a good profit from them if you know what you are doing. You will never lose big in the market if you do choose who's side you are on.

That is a good explanation, my friend, timing is the most important in trading and the last is you must have a capability or you must knowledgeable when it comes choosing which better coins to choose. I must prefer on the bull market because it is already high value of coins into dollar exchange compare the bearish one.

Even the market is on the high or the market is on the low like this year bear market continues to dumped the price of all cryptocurrency coins traders are continue to find ways how to earn or making money in cryptocurrency, the real traders aren't stopping their job.

Many people have been making money when the market is bullish, but it has been difficult for many to make money in bearish market. Some time the market drops sharply, so if you take this opportunity and enter the market then you can also make some profit.

When the market becomes bearish, that’s the perfect time to hit and buy more with your money while you continue to wait for the bull run. Some people also decide to wait to be very sure that it’s bull time so they can then get in and go with it. But sometimes it ends up being a Bull trap, cause it might drop when you have invested.

Bu bir maddi savaş,çok iyi takip edersek boğa ve ayı piyasasında kazana biliriz.Bütün coinleri değilde 10-15 coin takip edersek kıskaca alırsak kazanabiliriz.

Basically you never need to bother about where whales are sailing. You can go with only one direction that is along with bulls. Because, that is the only way all the crypto will move finally in long term basis. If you keep changing your directions, I'm afraid you will collapse all in the end. Day trading is not at all recommended for anyone hence just keep buying at dips and when you have some excess money is the only way of trading is suggested to most people here.

Bull traps must be treated as another buying opportunity. When you find your perfect time to buy on bearish trend then why should you bother about bull traps. Just move on that simply by watching. We should not expect market to turn positive once we have bought. If we understand this, then you will not bother about those traps.

I now have found one or two coins that I like to hold, so I trade though primarily to make some Eth profits but to also rally up my holdings in those specific projects. Now everything is on a low so I do not trade long term but short term for fast profits. I am accumulating though primarily 2-3 cryptos at the moment with the profits. Now we need to look at the bear market as a short term scalping daily opportunity to make money, earn 5% here, 25 there etc. We are currently not looking at those 100 x projects in the short term, they no longer exist now. Maybe only waiting till 2020 they will come.

So actually bearish is really very risky, there are many traps that exist, when you buy then after that you could lose because prices
can go down very quickly when bearish, I think it's better to stay away first from the market ratherthan to find time to buy when bearish..

Trading is a really war and you have to really choose your weapon currently be using the technical and fundamentals indicators to analyze the market.  I could remember that many analysts saying last year that 2018 is going to be bad and that is why we have to play along with this long time and big holders and make money in a way from the market.

Trading not so easy as we can think. We need to work hard all day long and then we will become an expert trader in short or mid term. Also after that we will understand when need to take entry and exit.

I think it is easy to make money during bull no matter how novice you are in trading. Just get any coin and you will be profiting like madmen. Last year when the price was soaring like crazy there was a lot of people who didn't even know they had so much of something.

A friend of mine had like 5 thousand ripples that he forgot, he had them years ago and he called me up to ask how he could get them back, we figured out where he put them in but that just shows how easy it is to make money during a bull run.

However during a bear run it is highly unlikely that anyone could make a decent return, maybe there are some whales who can make money thanks to shorting bitcoin and actually selling bitcoin to drop the price but that's a stretch and not an easy think to do right now.

You agree it is easier but you need to choose only right assets. Because, not all the coins are having bull-run. In the past, many coin did not get kick-started when bitcoin found its ~20k regions and then got delisted from exchanges. When there are many scenarios like this, how you can say we can hit for sure even being novice in trading. I mean to say we must need some knowledge to analyse for choosing the right coin.

With respect to cryptos, trading in bear market is completely different scenario whereas Forex and the commodity trading, they are not treating the bull and bear markets as entirely different things. Because, you may need same level of knowledge to handle them as all the strategies and tools are applicable for both bear and bull trends. But in cryptos, many exchanges are not supporting shorting. I do not mean we must need that but making money from both bear and bull must be same as per Forex and commodity trading.

Anxiety will lose more of course cannot be avoided by our feelings and that is the most difficult thing for us to defeat. Fighting against ourselves is not an easy matter for most people and unfortunately it is absolutely necessary in trading activities especially to deal with unfavorable situations like today. Btw, we need bear and bull interchangeably so we can maximize our profit in the future.

Exactly.Once you're into trading,atleast you know already the do's and dont's.Knowing its more risky with day trading,so you should be more cautious and extra careful in it.I believe no matter what the season whether bull or bearish,once your a good trader,there is no excemption,you can still make good profits from it.

but there are times when you should not trade, for example when prices continue to drop, of course buying or trading will only make
you lose, whatever the conditions do not be careless, see the right moment to entry

anything can happen at this stage. well, sometimes many always invest in a bear market, because the general idea is to buy in a bear market, it will be profitable when the bull market arrives.

No matter the market situation some people are still making profit from trading bitcoin. Just know how to  use chart to trade you will know when to sell high and buy low

The current bear market can be use to make profits with this analysis, The market usually have an increase of 3% every 48Hours which is good for short term traders who are ready to make profit even at that 3%, so, place trade every 48Hours and monitor the increase of 3% to sell and get the profit. Generating profit when the bull run is on is the most easiest of all, goodluck to all...

For some people all they do is to keep buying no matter what, even if the market drops to a very low price they will still continue to buy and buy till when the price goes up. But not everyone can do that, it’s only those that have money that can be doing such a thing. For traders who don’t have much money, you will have to calculate yourself carefully before taking any move.

You can still earn at bear through day trading. We all know that the market is not stable or in other words it is a volatile so even at bear or bull there's always an ups and downs. And from the small ups and downs we can still earn as long as we follow the concept of buy low and sell high.

This is my best way in order to earn no matter what's the status of the market (All of this is according to my own perception and opinion and all is based on my experience)

In different kind of investment and trading there is always war so it means you need to be careful and become more wisely. Most of the people earn profit in bulls market where the price of all cryptocurrencies are high but if you are skill trader you can earn in bears market.

Indeed, we cannot win against the whales so instead of making negative thoughts about them, its better to ride with the whales and make profit. Trading is a war between other traders and we want to win no matter what the situation is.

Trading requires more time before you master it and its not just about buying and selling, its more on how to timing the market. If we want to become a good trader, then we must put big efforts learning that one.

We can use bulls or bears, the most important thing is how we can make the best decisions. When we can get the right momentum, we can achieve good results. Every situation is an opportunity, for people who have good ability in determining when to sell and buy, all situations can be a good choice. The market will always be like this and we must be able to make the best decisions.

the traders must be smart in using strategies to be able to take advantage of opportunities to be able to profit in any situation, I myself trade to take profits in the long run but if there are coins that have a good chance of getting profit in the daily I will sell it to get profit.

Holy truth!

I think bearish is better than bullish. because the market goes up is slow than goes down

as a trader I took full advantage of these two moments, bought lots of coins when there was a bear market and sold them when it became a bull market.
it will be very profitable  ;) ;)

True, that is the simple step that anyone needs to follow. But I did not apply it back then because I was too greedy. I was just a newbie then and did not know the nature of the market. I thought it will only continue to go up and I was expecting much more return but then a bear period has started.

This is the basic principle of trading, "buy low sell high". And the only consequences is that you need to wait and hold and sell it on the right time. Might takes months and years on your end though, but at least you are not pressured or whatever to do daily trading and as long as you invest what you can afford then it's a sure fired strategy for long term.

that's look like simple to do.but unfortunately there is no easy thing in this market.we have to prepare our self with the condition after we buy coin price still continouesly down.our mental have to stong face this condition.

so far, I only hold assets to wait for bull markets to occur. that's how I make enough money when there is a bull market. well, however, I never made money when there was a bear market. well, that is difficult to do, because most people who get a bear market will definitely hold their assets until everything returns to normal. most people only buy, or add to their assets when there is a bear market.

The problem is sometimes whales take action suddenly and chances are we also don't know what whales will do later, although it would be better to trade by following a step whales, but I think whales is currently not visible, even what appears in crypto is small fluctuations and there is no pump or a large dump.

If market is bearish then you can buy many coins at lower rate and once it begins to rise it will be quick and fast growth so you can make more money in less time . On other hand during the bull run if it starts falling then you are struck .

Whales might be tired after dragging bitcoins from $6500 to $3500 in less than a week time ;D. But, I am not sure how easier to follow whales even some telegram and skype groups are claiming that they are having access to whale's order-books. I never believe into such a bump and dump groups.

Buying in falling markets and then waiting for long period will enable anyone to crack profits regardless of when bulls may fail or when bear will come to action. Simply plan for long duration then you get avoid getting struck. I agree buying at the end of downfall may give me quick and big profits but you cannot buy at exact bottom also so you cannot be sure about continuation of bulls after you bought.

The risk in spot trading is high and will be more high in margin trading. So if the price uptrend for the better trade on spot market and when down trend short the price in margin trading. And to minimize the risk we should be use risk management like stop loss. Knowledge about Risk management and trading plan will help to make profit with low risk.

looking at current market price movements I think if we choose to trade daily it will be difficult to get profits and of course the time we have can be wasted because we always monitor market price movements to avoid the risk of loss.

Yes trading like war, and before we join in to war we should be have strategy so we can become the winner. That strategy include management of risk and money, target profit, trading plan and how to understanding psychology of trading.

All you should to have is intelligence in analysis. even when it's bearish. there is still a chance for profit. You have to know when
prices stop falling or when prices will crawl up. smart traders can take advantage of both conditions

the only way to profit from market bulls and bears is to trade for satoshi irrespective of dollars prices

It all comes with experience. Of course you can't know exactly when the price would start falling and bounce back but you can time it close to the bottom. Experienced traders are efficient in reading the ups and downs of the market so even in a bear trend, little profits can be made.

To profit out of the market traders always look for fluctuations. Whether it is bullish or bearish, always the difference in the buying to the selling generates the profit. People who doesn't need to go with risk can just hold and look for a bullish market. This will generate a long term profit, while through trading the same is possible in a day if the predictions go right.

If we think about it with a different perspective than bear markets gives us the opportunity to buy and sell at approx dips as the price varries a lot and also small pumps are been expected within the dips so it becomes easy to make small profits there.
But for long tern profits, going for more stable currency is good as the price would surely hike up in upcoming future if the coin is that potential.

Hello, I am a small trader, at this time it is very difficult to trade, since I see that the market is in an accumulation phase and in the spring zone, according to Wyckoff, they are in a period of bot moves, very few people OR Human investors have been operating, I discovered a betting platform, because in this way I have my adrenaline to the maximum and I can make decisions about the trade. After gambling there I continue to study the market with Bitcoin.

So being smart is going to make you more successful then any other thing. Trading is all based on the market condition so people who are trading need to accumulate the current situation and make decisions based on that.

Yes trading just like war and we will never get profit if we dont have any strategies and risk management. Understanding the trend is key to make money because by know it we can make good profit from bullish or bearish. If the trend bullish , we can decide to buy good coin and sell it after target profit achived, and if the trend bearish the way to make profit only short the price in margin trading.

people hold back when prices are down, or buy assets they want when prices are falling. while in the bull market, they started selling their assets little by little. this often happens, and for now, I only use bull markets.

To be expert trader who possible to make profit consistently is not easy, need long process and keep learning from the mistake. Because the circle of crypto market always bullish and bearish we should be have account of spot trading and margin trading, but margin rrafing is more risky. So if we want to make profit only from spot trading, we should be also trade on the stocks market. So when bearish market in crypto started we should be out from it and put the money in to stocks trading.

yes because when you are smart you can think properly  .


trading is do'able at all times  , no matter what is the market condition   . when the market is in bull traders earn huge income but when the market is in bears traders still earn an income but not as big as when the market is in pump state .


whats a smart and dumb money ? money does not have a trait  because it is not a living thing  .

if we learn lessons from bear market then we learn many real-time examples of how to take profits in all conditions at the time of bull market we can take more advantage

If bullish - go long, if bearish - go short. If sideways and uneventful - add leverage to take advantage of small but near certain price movements. Manage risk with stop-loss orders, OCO orders, and a diversified portfolio of the top performing assets.  Most exchanges don’t offer all of these possibilities simultaneously. For instance, Bitmex has 100x & shorting but only on BTC. The only place you can access 100x on all top 5 cryptos to diversify risk is PrimeXBT.  Waiting for bull runs is fine if you’re only a part-time trader, but if you day-trade successfully these strategies are essential.

In both events we can make money but more often to make huge gains during bullish season than of the bears month. We usually stop investing when the market fall and bring back when the market recovers which I think that it is not a good idea. The prices of coins definitely in cheap so why we shouldn't take advantage on it, cause its a big profit when market rises back.

You can always make profits, bulls or bears, but for that you have to spend a lot of time watching the market closely, when the price drops suddenly of a coin you have to buy and then sell it when the price increases again. In this way you can always gain some profits.

Now that the market is picking up little by little many will not be disciplined on trading so its advisable to always take profit at all intervals and trade without emotions  dont get to in love with a particular token and be less greedy

Yes,buy following the whales strategy you can make huge profits even when compared to the people who do lot of analysis,for that you have ti watch the market how is moving and do trade based on it,just see the trading volume of bitcoin on the big exchanges if there is a huge trade on single transaction then it is time for you to do the same buy or sell respectively.

In the low situation of this market also we can make profit from it especially in trading you can hear the same profit how we can earn in the previous time because it is all about the experience and the intelligence that we have put an effort in the business of cryptocurrency in trading.

I am a day trader. Being in it, any day trader can say, yes, can profit out of even at any situation. Just get in and out setting a minimum profit. This would at times bore you but when you count your profits at end of the day, your profit will be minimum of 30 dollars to the least. I at times, get out of system for other personal works. If one spends minimum 10 hours, he/she can earn around $100 a day.

The profit and loss in any field is always depends on your work and your talent because a lot of people making money in this situation also so anyone could have make money in any situation will be a profitable person for long time so I think making profit is also possible nowadays.

From these fluctuation is where most traders makes their money, It doesn’t mean everyone should go into trading but it is also not a bad idea to take advantage of the bearish market too by using one stone to hit two fruits simultaneously, I am also into the bull market set of people too where I have to hold on some coins during this bearish market till the bull run sets in.

It is very best to trade this period while also holding for long term too provided the investor has spare cash to trade with. One can make profit in both ways which doesn’t mean the investor is greedy, it’s just to benefit phone both side.

If this is a battle you are saying, the bear is playing longer in the market then we have to fight it by taking advantage of this situation. Margin traders or even a day trader can still gain profits from these bearish or bullish trend. Make a good entry will make you a wise trader.

Best option to enter this days indeed since there are so many best option for us to do since there are so many cheap coins and tokens are scattering around, and huge chances for us to  earn more once the market recovery will come. And we can also join the tricky movement of the market and do a day trade on it.

It is a sweet battle I would want to continue fighting mate because this period benefit the group you mentioned more which are the Margin traders but it comes with lots of its own risk too as interesting as it looks and  if care is not taking when trading with margin, you might end up losing completely.

Hence I will advise some investors to HODL their coin if they are not so good in trading and wait for the bearish market to end, but for me, what I even do most time is scalping but I don’t let it get pass 5x at 2% profit each.

I believe that it has far more uses than just making the money in the bear or bulk market. You can transact a very big amount of money as well with a fee lower than what you would have paid in a bank had the third party been a bank.

So, it has high potential in terms of business. About the bear market, invest as the values are low and cash out in the bull market.

The current situation is indispensable to collect from cheap. In addition, we can also make a profit by evaluating the chances. There is always the chance to make a profit anyway. You just need to pick the right way.

Trading is a war definitely and if you ain't strong in the market, you will go rekt, market is not made for weak minds and also not for people who is hot tempered, you definitely have to spend time study some charts follow up news around to achieve some good goals.

The current market conditions are the conditions most feared by most bitcoin traders because the price of bitcoin has never improved, until now the price tends to stagnate. Surfing with whales, I think it's a good idea to make a profit. But the problem's, do you know what the whales are doing on the market today?


I think this kind of theory has been embedded in everyone, as time goes by they also evolved into smart people who knew what the appropriate purchase price was when buying. So, if we are SMART enough to face this stagnant market condition, chances are there will be a distinct advantage.

Profiting when it is time for the bulls is very easy. There was even a time that I don't even care what that coins is or where it came from or what its use. All I know is I just bought because its cheap and wait for a short time for some group to pump and it always works. But when it is the time for the bears to dominate, even the most vital projects can't even jump more than 5%.

Bulls can easy deal with buy low and sell high, as the value is emerging up while in the bear season accumulations will take you longer time
before you can sell your assets, you can gained profits but you have to take the risk, trade like gambling with your full knowledge can create
also a good results but in the other hands it also can burned everything out of your hand.

just passing by, who are who? Like bulls and bears?

The opposite of a bull market is a bear market, which is characterized by falling prices and typically shrouded in pessimism. ... A bull thrusts its horns up into the air, while a bear swipes its paws downward.

nice metaphors! Where did you get that?

google, lol. Anyway I read a lot of trading articles and blog-posts, so should you do

yeah, I’m reading some but nothing specific

check those fellas, they are cool in explaining some trading things: https://medium.com/velvet-exchange

oh, wow, thanks for sharing

sharing is caring :D ur welcome!

Right.Everyone gets profits in times of bull run especially for those who have bought potential coins in times of bearish season.But if you're really a good trader,you can still find ways to make profit whether its bull or bear.As long as you know what you're doing,you will be very profitable in this crypto market.It's only a matter of patience and perseverance when bearish comes.

in trading you cannot make more concentration about the market situation if it was not also good we can make the profit as the same level like we are expected so I think that smart work will increase the profit when trading and it will the way to get success also while the market condition was not also good.

Efficient work and effective strategies will give help for us to be more profitable in all market situation. But some players easily quit when they experience losses and being in patient especially during bear season which is supposedly won't be like that and of short thinking.

I think that if you are able to speculate when the price of Bitcoin is low in the market, you would be better off when it is the Bull Run in the market. This is the plus point and the good way to make money in the bull market. When the market is down and people are fearful, be greedy to invest because the profits are there when you counter the Bull Run. This is how you make money by selling in the Bull Run at higher cost.

I don’t even know how to concentrate on some branch of activity in the cryptocurrency market when you look at the indicators and see a complete drop in prices for all the coins in your portfolio. Trading is now generally impossible, because all assets have fallen below the baseboard. Already there is not even a big desire to participate in the Bounty company, because you complete the work completely, and there is almost no payment.

"The trend is your friend" is the maxim in trading and it is always true. Do not trade against the trend but follow the trend and you will not get hurt. Try to catch the trend early and ride it till it extinguishes. Whether the whales are in the market they will still follow the trend and trading along them will give you profit.

I very much doubt that big whales will follow the trend, especially considering the fact that these very people are the engine of manipulation in the cryptocurrency market. Besides, all the negative is really valid. In the information plan, it is from these groups of users that cryptocurrency, which by all means try to manipulate the cryptocurrency market.

getting it is easy while you don't expect big profits in the near future because it's going to be very difficult, especially when market conditions like this are to get results little by little it's good

Both of the two is important to make profit. Because right now for example we are in the bear market so we can buy coins more cheaper and once the value increase or bull run start we can get money. But if qe talking about the profit where are going to get profit in the bear market or bull run ofcourse bull run.

Mistakes we experience through our struggle and not stupidity are the ones that teach us lessons to get better.  Yes I agree with you that some players quit as a result of losses but some don’t quit permanently but rather quit temporarily to gain more financial strength they can use to enter the market again.

I remembered when I started trading and despite all the advice of not trading with life savings, I did trade with my life saving s and I lost all which is why I said some mistakes are out of stupidity, I had to quit trade temporarily to get more money and to look into my mistakes in other to make necessary adjustment.

I think that it is still best to consider daily trading in case of any differences in the situation in the cryptocurrency market. Of course, if you take into account the lower trend, there are a lot of risks in order to receive income from the difference in price. But if you take into account the investment, then their results can only be due to the long-term storage of their assets.

Today, there is no confidence at all in the good results of their activities in the cryptocurrency market, since daily trading does not give good results, and I don’t have much optimism about the long-term preservation of many. Of course, if we are talking about top-rated coins, then there will be no problems, but in my portfolio there are still quite a lot of coins from new projects.

What profit will be available only with long-term storage of your assets, because if you take into account the current state of the cryptocurrency market, then investors will have to wait for a very long bull run. But if you find a good project with high volatility, which shows real fluctuations in price almost daily or at least a couple of times a week, then you can get a considerable income on this.

You really need to respect that grace that has been upon you shielding you from making mistakes because these your method is a very dangerous one that will get a lot of people in trouble of investing their life saving in a shitcoin without having any in a major coin or the ones on the top 20 list.

It might have worked for you but may really backfire for others following you, it is very necessary to make thorough research about a particular coin of interest before investing in it.

I use to day trade. I'm not very good at technical analysis and I'm not very good at predicting market movements. But I'm better at defining the short term.

Stop thinking that whales always make profits. The situation when a crowd destroys big players orders is absolutely normal. You also can see 2 whales trading against each other. It's the reason of flat movements by the way.

You are right. Whales are just like us, they also making trades and just like of what we did but they only have advantage to us cause they can't make some hypes which is preferable  for them to generate profit. But having that hypes it also helping the market to be alive and everyone's believing that is still working.

The simplest way is to understand how big players move. You need to go with them otherwise you'll be late in selling and buying which can cause you be stucked in holding your coin. Also, through the help of indicators and other tools, you'll be able to make a conclusion which is what also big players do to make profit in the market.

That kind of strategy will certainly bring your profit.
However, it's not easy to know how the big players move, as the market is still manipulated, we might not be accurate in making a prediction.

The key note here is to be alert and sharp minded.

You must be seeing what people are doing, how the graph is shaking and how things are changing accordingly. Because, if you make a loose sight, you must distant yourself from important information. These big fishes are always counting on numbers and whenever suitable, they make hit. So, best way to be on good side is observe more and talk less.

That could be more efficiently dome when it comes to investment in the best coins in the bear market which is to say to invest in cryptocurrency when the price is the lowest.

This is the best investment decision and if you have done that, you have utilized the bear market benefits, Making money in the bull market is then easy with cashing the coins at all time high or once you surpass your target.

No matter how you want to analysis trading. it is a good practise to learn first. practice is another thing to do. and then trade. a friend will always advise. never buy when the market is green. don,t buy during the green market rather wait for the red market. whatever that goes up will surely come down. wait for the red market and invest.

It is not always a bear market to be a threat, now the bear market can be one of the best ways to get profits even though profits are small and gradual. but maybe a big profit will be acceptable when the bull run and it's much bigger.

Many traders use a bear market for daily trading and, thanks to their volume, made good profits.  In any case, the spread between the bear and bull markets is long-term storage, in other words, just investing.

Riding their waved is the besr idea you can do. They have all the power to manipulate the market and benefit themselves so you are there to follow them and get benefited too. Its like waiting for the value to drop then buy more, hold until it goes high again.

When we talk about bear market now, I don’t want to be generalizing it by classifying all the coins we have into the same group, I think bear market has levels , and the reason why I said so is because there are some coins bear market that are very bad for business.

Look at some of the coins we have now, we were all using the past bear market as an excuse for their low value, but now that the market is in bullish trend, their value is even getting worst now, and such coins should never ever be considered for investment, because any investor will end up tying their money down for everlasting, the only bear market that can be good at any time is the market for these top coins.

It’s smth like addition, but you can play games to win some tokens

Oh, I don’t think that’s a good idea, in most of them you can’t really win

Partially I agree with you, I mostly play games from projects I can trust, e. g. which I see in different shows like blockbattle

That’s good lifehack, I watch this show. And what projects from it have such games?

The last I’ve found - curio

Really? And where can I play their game?

On official site of curio invest https://www.curioinvest.com/game

Well bulls and bears are very instrumental in giving you opportunities to invest in crypto and make use of the price fall or the price rise. So yes they could be a way of making money for you. Just put in your money in crypto when the market is down. Once you are done with it, forget about the returns in short run and trust me you will get 100x as the market rise.

It’s smth like addition, but you can play games to win some tokens

Oh, I don’t think that’s a good idea, in most of them you can’t really win

Partially I agree with you, I mostly play games from projects I can trust, e. g. which I see in different shows like blockbattle

That’s good lifehack, I watch this show. And what projects from it have such games?

The last I’ve found - curio

Really? And where can I play their game?

On official site of curio invest https://www.curioinvest.com/game

You're right. Learning to understand the desire of bulls is very important. Because it depends on them your profit. They earn on inexperienced traders and our task is not to get into their number.

I think there are many ways that work differently for different people. Someone motivated by Bitcoin would not go for little profits from these tokens and would rather take some risk to make big money. Bear market gives you one benefit and that is that you get to own some good coins at a low cost which means that money not spent is money saved.

To be honest, I have got profit during last bearish market. Especially I have traded with alts /btc and earned a handsome profit. That's the way I have increased my bitcoin and grow my total portfolio. Because that time alt market was almost stable even bitcoin was huge dump. But when bitcoin start move on up trend that time I have lost my fund although I didn't sold on loss and still holding. But generally we think that bull market is perfect for trading and unfortunately that method didn't worked for me. I think bear market is perfect time to grow your portfolio, never mind if btc price is low. At the end I can say for me, bear market was perfect for increase my portfolio.

I agree that trading is never easy but may I add that if a trader finds him/herself in an unfavorable situation, the more that trader should persist to get to know why the situation is unfavorable in order to avoid such situations in the future. Sometimes losing in trading makes a trader learn more.

The most effective way for us to earn here whether the market is bear or bulls was day trading.
Though, once you apply this it will only bloody, really need no. 1 patience, hard work, right, timing
and self- control when the market is down. Because in trading one wrong move you can wreck at once,
so be careful and be sensitive in every motion happen in the exchange.

A bear market is good for the people who made some decent profit when the market is in bull because people who has the ability will always save their profit for further purchases when the desired altcoin prices are going down. Most of the people will think negatively about the bear market, but we should consider it as an opportunity to grab the low valued coins.

I mostly agree with you buddy but those whales have a premium group or secret groups that asks for a 1 btc or more so it is very hard to know and anticipate the next move of whales. If only any of has a whale friend then making money in bullrun or even in the long bear period will just be a piece of cake. You don't win here really by trading but having the best information.

How do you know this? Do you have any of such groups? I read somewhere some years ago that, that kind of organized whales exist. My guess is that another kind of Whales (super-rich whales) have taken over from those old whales. It take alot of money to move the market now.