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Title: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: markiz73 on September 12, 2018, 09:00:50 PM
Many ICO save money and make a listing of tokens unpopular or decentralized exchanges.
And what if you spend money and make a listing on a major exchange? Pump, you tell me. But no ;D

Puma Pay has collected investments of 117,019,041 dollars. 
This is not advertising, ICO has already ended.

PumaPay enables payment methods common to daily life on the blockchain, which have so far been impossible with the technology behind  cryptocurrencies.
By bringing the flexibility of payment cards to the blockchain, PumaPay is the go-to solution for merchants worldwide.
Information taken from the official site( https://pumapay.io  )


Now the most interesting
Puma Pay made a a listing of tokens on the decentralized IDEX exchange.
The token was traded in the range of 0.000009-0.000012
https://idex.market/eth/pma
https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2018/09/e501be0f9c30f529c556ef62cf66b2b1.jpg (https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=e501be0f9c30f529c556ef62cf66b2b1)

On August 8, a token was listed on https://hitbtc.com/PMA-to-ETH

https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2018/09/b9bc6da4af191c434c50dbe081ad61be.jpg (https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=b9bc6da4af191c434c50dbe081ad61be)

hitbtc   pump x2, x5, x10.... to the moon :D   

No...

On the first day of trading, the price fell 2,6 times and did not rise much.

Poor investors ..
Puma Pay is not a scam.

Draw conclusions yourself.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: oneidentity on September 13, 2018, 03:46:33 AM
I think that the drop in prices is not due to the listing of a new large stock exchange, but to a general decline in the market. All coins sank in price by 90% and this coin is no exception. And in general large exchanges are certainly good. These are large volumes of trades and various tools that facilitate the life of a trader.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: bhadz on September 13, 2018, 05:28:31 AM
I thought this thread is going to be a discussion about listing fees and big or small exchanges. But though you mentioned that you are not advertising this Pumapay, for sure you are holding it right? Idex is one of the most popular decentralized exchange so by being there you'll there thousands of active daily traders. Listing on a big exchange will surely give a coin the popularity and spread for that coin.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Awesomus Maximus on September 13, 2018, 06:06:42 AM
hitbtc   pump x2, x5, x10.... to the moon :D   

No...

On the first day of trading, the price fell 2,6 times and did not rise much.

Poor investors ..
Puma Pay is not a scam.

Draw conclusions yourself.


Usually when a coin hits a big exchange the price goes up, not down. But in your case one possible conclusion would be that people who were investing during the iCO phase are now dumping their coins which can drive the price down. That and the market decline.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: markiz73 on September 13, 2018, 06:14:47 AM
I thought this thread is going to be a discussion about listing fees and big or small exchanges. But though you mentioned that you are not advertising this Pumapay, for sure you are holding it right? Idex is one of the most popular decentralized exchange so by being there you'll there thousands of active daily traders. Listing on a big exchange will surely give a coin the popularity and spread for that coin.
I do not have PMA tokens. I have long been not interested in ICO and do not advise anyone to invest there.
The PMA tokens from the very beginning traded cheaper than their price for the ICO.
This is a project that raised more than $ 100 million. Most other projects do not survive to listing on the exchange.
And other projects in the early days are very much falling in price.
Now the token is traded on 3 exchanges, but there is no result.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: pedangrusak on September 13, 2018, 06:30:25 AM
a large exchange will give a big impact on the price and confidence of the crypto community. I often give opinions on forums when the ICO is made as much as possible as well as include the listing costs in a large exchange even though it is expensive, but investors, traders and many crypto players reside in large exchanges and they only believe when tokens or coins have entered


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Indick123 on September 13, 2018, 10:15:12 AM
This is very good question on a large exchange I think there would be benefit from it because some investors,buyers will have confidence to participate in that businesses than Small so to listing on large exchange will  brings great benefit


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: aggress0r on September 13, 2018, 12:07:36 PM
I suppose each listings provokes a huge dump also because of the following reason:
Investors / bountyhunters are waiting for their favorite exchange and than sell the coin. Since they usually have some kind of deposit it is very convenient.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: sell my ac_________nt on September 13, 2018, 12:16:23 PM
In my opinion, this is a typical situation when the price of a token falls after entering a centralized exchange. There are rumors that the exchange for listing get a huge number of coins and then sell them at any price and that is why the coin rate drops.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: markiz73 on September 13, 2018, 03:37:09 PM
In my opinion, this is a typical situation when the price of a token falls after entering a centralized exchange. There are rumors that the exchange for listing get a huge number of coins and then sell them at any price and that is why the coin rate drops.
The exchange receives part of the money in bitcoins and part of it in tokens. It is not profitable for an exchange to sell promising tokens immediately.
It is more profitable to wait for the pamp and sell several times more expensive.
Perhaps there are other reasons for this situation.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: AAlex48 on September 13, 2018, 03:56:26 PM
Many ICO save money and make a listing of tokens unpopular or decentralized exchanges.
And what if you spend money and make a listing on a major exchange? Pump, you tell me. But no ;D

Puma Pay has collected investments of 117,019,041 dollars. 
This is not advertising, ICO has already ended.

PumaPay enables payment methods common to daily life on the blockchain, which have so far been impossible with the technology behind  cryptocurrencies.
By bringing the flexibility of payment cards to the blockchain, PumaPay is the go-to solution for merchants worldwide.
Information taken from the official site( https://pumapay.io  )


Now the most interesting
Puma Pay made a a listing of tokens on the decentralized IDEX exchange.
The token was traded in the range of 0.000009-0.000012
https://idex.market/eth/pma
https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2018/09/e501be0f9c30f529c556ef62cf66b2b1.jpg (https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=e501be0f9c30f529c556ef62cf66b2b1)

On August 8, a token was listed on https://hitbtc.com/PMA-to-ETH

https://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2018/09/b9bc6da4af191c434c50dbe081ad61be.jpg (https://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=b9bc6da4af191c434c50dbe081ad61be)

hitbtc   pump x2, x5, x10.... to the moon :D   

No...

On the first day of trading, the price fell 2,6 times and did not rise much.

Poor investors ..
Puma Pay is not a scam.

Draw conclusions yourself.


The  exchange does not always decide.I had cases of falling when investors' expectations were not met.The project promised a major exchange.Exchange was the top 100.The result is a drop in prices.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: santosummer on September 13, 2018, 04:06:54 PM
Of course, reputable exchange sites are always full of elements for the development of the value of the token and the popularity is also faster. Trading volume and traders are also essential. However, it is completely unlimited to be pumped and dumped.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Upercusa on September 13, 2018, 05:08:35 PM
In my opinion, this is a typical situation when the price of a token falls after entering a centralized exchange. There are rumors that the exchange for listing get a huge number of coins and then sell them at any price and that is why the coin rate drops.
Very interesting version and it's likely you are right. Never thought about it  :-\


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Rhosadah on September 13, 2018, 08:00:58 PM
not all tokens can raise the price in the market even though it's a big market,
You should pay attention to the road map of their project in San A there will be signs of price increases if their roadmap has reached the Q2-Q3.
so be patient and now all tokens have decreased prices .


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Zadicar on September 13, 2018, 08:28:20 PM
I thought this thread is going to be a discussion about listing fees and big or small exchanges. But though you mentioned that you are not advertising this Pumapay, for sure you are holding it right? Idex is one of the most popular decentralized exchange so by being there you'll there thousands of active daily traders. Listing on a big exchange will surely give a coin the popularity and spread for that coin.
When we do talk about big or popular exchange if we do really think deeply I don't really see why small exchange wont able to reach up a token price compared on having it on bigger ones.This do always add up with the popularity and a mix of hype that's why there are sudden effects if a coin is being listed newly on an exchange.Common for people on asking on devs on when it would be listed on other higher exchange since its already been part of our mentality about price increase.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Jamota459 on September 14, 2018, 05:58:22 AM
Listing in big exchanges is the best flour for big whales to dwell in. Dumpers wouldn't wait for any miracle to happen in some months they drop there token. And the market will move swiftly


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: spirali on September 14, 2018, 09:18:01 AM
People expect a pump after a coin is listed on an exchange. In fact, there even is a bot to inform you when a new coin is listed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2966800.0

But people don't realize that it often starts with a big dump! I asked the creator of the bot to explain why he thinks this strategy is good but I didn't get the answer:

And we all know what happens to new currencies on the market.

I guess the strategy here is to buy a coin the very first minute it is added to an exchange hoping that it will pump during the first minutes. So I analyzed some of the alerts of the bot (from February 21st) and found that:

### The following coins started with a PUMP ###
https://www.huobi.pro/blz_btc/exchange/
https://www.huobi.pro/edu_btc/exchange/
https://hitbtc.com/CTE-to-BTC
https://hitbtc.com/CHP-to-ETH

### But the following coins started with a DUMP ###
https://c-cex.com/?p=sfi-btc
https://hitbtc.com/HAND-to-ETH
https://hitbtc.com/ACO-to-ETH
https://hitbtc.com/UTNP-to-ETH
https://c-cex.com/?p=aurs-usd
https://www.bibox.com/exchange?coinPair=UUU_BTC

So this strategy might not be a good idea after all. I only checked the pairs I could see without registering though (I don't want to register to an exchange just to check a pair history). Also this strategy might work only when a pair is added to a "big" exchange. @OP, can you explain a little more for which strategy your bot can help?



Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: bhadz on September 14, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
I thought this thread is going to be a discussion about listing fees and big or small exchanges. But though you mentioned that you are not advertising this Pumapay, for sure you are holding it right? Idex is one of the most popular decentralized exchange so by being there you'll there thousands of active daily traders. Listing on a big exchange will surely give a coin the popularity and spread for that coin.
When we do talk about big or popular exchange if we do really think deeply I don't really see why small exchange wont able to reach up a token price compared on having it on bigger ones.This do always add up with the popularity and a mix of hype that's why there are sudden effects if a coin is being listed newly on an exchange.Common for people on asking on devs on when it would be listed on other higher exchange since its already been part of our mentality about price increase.
It's a sure ball about the mentality. Holders are asking when it will be listing to an exchange and once its there, we are expecting for a rise.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Gozie51 on September 14, 2018, 09:38:42 AM
Listing an average performance token in a reputable exchange helps it to grow faster. Big exchanges are where the whales visit always and that will expose the tokens to huge buys because hodlers will dump certainly. It will increase the trade for the token easily.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: markiz73 on September 14, 2018, 10:56:10 AM
If the price of the coin sinks to the bottom, then its price is very difficult to pump.
This will require large financial investments. Perhaps the organizers of the ICO missed important points.
 But such surprises seriously undermine the credibility of investors


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: robocarpolitv on September 14, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
well pumapay was quite good example, but usually what we expect from large exchange is to pump the volume. but that's ineffective in the current market condition


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: lyfecoin on September 16, 2018, 06:24:43 PM
In my opinion big exchanges are favored by whales and it is where most pump and dump activities takes place .Big exchanges have more coins listed,more volume traded and more liquidity.So listing a coin on big exchanges gets noticed fast and if coin has good potential ,it will have more demand and price goes up naturally or if not gets pumped up


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: mamesso on September 16, 2018, 10:28:44 PM
In my opinion big exchanges are favored by whales and it is where most pump and dump activities takes place .Big exchanges have more coins listed,more volume traded and more liquidity.So listing a coin on big exchanges gets noticed fast and if coin has good potential ,it will have more demand and price goes up naturally or if not gets pumped up
I agree with you, and big exchangers help investors to be more confident in holding their coins.
there is a belief that one day the coin will be pumped, even though it is less likely and in a short time. I don't think coins will die easily there.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: hunnykaushal on September 17, 2018, 07:35:05 AM
Yes, it is good to listed it on big exchanges because they have many users and more users will comes to know about project if they will list it on big exchanges.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: markiz73 on September 17, 2018, 08:40:52 AM
In my opinion big exchanges are favored by whales and it is where most pump and dump activities takes place .Big exchanges have more coins listed,more volume traded and more liquidity.So listing a coin on big exchanges gets noticed fast and if coin has good potential ,it will have more demand and price goes up naturally or if not gets pumped up
The large exchange has a larger volume of trades. But that does not mean that whales will pump your coin.
Whales will pump that coin, which is controlled. Perhaps for this operation is more convenient small exchange.
A few hundred coins are traded on a large exchange, so you can wait for a pamp for a very long time.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Indick123 on September 17, 2018, 08:49:09 AM
There is a difference between large business and small business in large exchange bring confidence for investors
,buyer,and trader to participate there is a big benefit on large exchange.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: jems on September 17, 2018, 09:20:03 AM
Usually large exchanges make traders more comfortable to live even the popes are also in it and make the possibility of a huge price surge. But there are also times when a coin that is newly listed on the exchange will experience a very sharp price drop that could be due to investors when the ICO takes place waiting to sell a large exchange or just a coincidence because price conditions in all exchanges are decreasing.


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Gayu123 on September 17, 2018, 11:59:37 AM
There is a best chance and opportunities to be listed in a good exchanges. It more profitable for investors and bounty participants


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: D3m1r4wanti on September 19, 2018, 11:47:37 AM
of course, this will be very influential, because in large exchangers, the token trading will also be in large volumes and with very large transactions, therefore our opportunity to gain profits can also be quickly


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: BitRewardsTeam on September 19, 2018, 12:53:33 PM
It is really onesided thought that several reputable exchanges can pump the price. Seen projects which are listed on binance and okex, but the price dropped 5-6 times. There are many factors to note. Together with the listing, the project itself should be good, there should be development, promotion and so on and so forth. 


Title: Re: Is there any benefit of listing tokens on a large exchange?
Post by: Samarkand on September 19, 2018, 09:37:43 PM
...
Seen projects which are listed on binance and okex, but the price dropped 5-6 times.
...

Buy the rumor, sell the news is often the best play in these situations.
If you know that the addition to a big exchange like Binance is likely, you
load up on an altcoin and afterwards you take profits.

Very often these new coins donīt have any catalysts that can spark a bull run
except the listing on an exchange like Binance. This is why you have seen this
pattern so often that a coin rises until the listing and then continues to lose value
as investors take profit.

Even famous coins like Litecoin followed this pattern. The LTC price surged until
LTC was listed on Coinbase and shortly after lost nearly 80 % of its value.
Obviously, the insiders made tremendous profits, because they knew when to cash out.