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Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: FermaK on September 13, 2018, 02:38:43 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: FermaK on September 13, 2018, 03:22:26 PM
Hello crypto-commonwealth.
Briefly about us. There is a family business of the rabbit farm stably developing (channel in YouTube FarmK). There is such an idea to attract investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We offer money holders 10% per annum of the deposit amount from the first day, and the stable growth of the token together with our business since we do not plan to stop there.
What do you think about this project.
We are waiting for questions.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Jet Cash on September 13, 2018, 03:23:36 PM
I think you need to publish a unique white paper that includes all of the details of the project. This shoud include the source of the income that enables the payment of the 10%.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: FermaK on September 13, 2018, 04:20:57 PM
I think you need to publish a unique white paper that includes all of the details of the project. This shoud include the source of the income that enables the payment of the 10%.

We are a boat business that works and brings us income .. we want to expand it .. we grow rabbits and sell rabbit meat ... for example we grow 1000 rabbits (increasing each month at the expense of profit) and we can grow 1000000


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: condoras on September 13, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
I think you need to publish a unique white paper that includes all of the details of the project. This shoud include the source of the income that enables the payment of the 10%.

We are a boat business that works and brings us income .. we want to expand it .. we grow rabbits and sell rabbit meat ... for example we grow 1000 rabbits (increasing each month at the expense of profit) and we can grow 1000000

Do you understand what Jet Cash suggest you or you lost your mind and write whatever it comes to your head?
Can you make a proper business plan or a decent presentation of your job/family owned business? If not, then lock this thread of yours and be gone.

P.S. WTH have to do a boat business (?) with growing rabbits?! ???


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: fibrolit on September 14, 2018, 04:44:50 PM
I unfortunately didn't find your YouTube channel,maybe I just didn't understand which channel is yours. To begin with,I would advise you to communicate on different forums and social networks and provide the audience with extensive data about your work, goal and project. Soon it will become clear whether it is necessary to conduct ICO or not.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: FermaK on September 15, 2018, 06:51:16 AM
I think you need to publish a unique white paper that includes all of the details of the project. This shoud include the source of the income that enables the payment of the 10%.

We are a boat business that works and brings us income .. we want to expand it .. we grow rabbits and sell rabbit meat ... for example we grow 1000 rabbits (increasing each month at the expense of profit) and we can grow 1000000

Do you understand what Jet Cash suggest you or you lost your mind and write whatever it comes to your head?
Can you make a proper business plan or a decent presentation of your job/family owned business? If not, then lock this thread of yours and be gone.

P.S. WTH have to do a boat business (?) with growing rabbits?! ???

Here on the forum I am interested in whether people are interested in such a project. Of course, everything will be supported by the business plan by the relevant calculations and current business, since we have been working in the given field for a long time and started from scratch, and we already have a lot of experience. You can view our business on the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz3wH7TvkQ1NbmDZznS1pbQ


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: FermaK on September 15, 2018, 07:10:05 AM
I unfortunately didn't find your YouTube channel,maybe I just didn't understand which channel is yours. To begin with,I would advise you to communicate on different forums and social networks and provide the audience with extensive data about your work, goal and project. Soon it will become clear whether it is necessary to conduct ICO or not.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz3wH7TvkQ1NbmDZznS1pbQ
The purpose of our project is to create an economy that has no boundaries in development. The main two of our projects are:
-We want to complete the development of the farm of rabbits and bring it to a higher level.
-The next stage of our development is the creation of a farm with goats for the production of milk and cheeses.
To implement our plan, we want to introduce our economy shares in the form of tokens.
To all holders of tokens, we promise the rapid growth of our economy and dividends of 10% per annum, and we will also put our token on the stock exchange for free trade.
What do you think about this?


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 17, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

Saying it does not make it believable as investors would need more than mere words to put their funds in your care for use because it needs to be backed by practicability which is the sole of every investment and this can be done in presenting a feasibility report that would show what the fund would really be used for and how its going to be applied and not something vague like you have there.

However, something caught my attention which is the cash reward payment in the amount invested. This is rather an ambiguous statement

Is the 10% a form of buy back in the sense that if I invest $100,000 and I get $10,000 in the first year, does that mean my investment in the company is now $90,000? If that is the case, then you need to review that because it does not give premium on those who invest in the business and not taking into consideration the time value of money.

If the 10% is really a cash reward that does not diminish my investment, then it means you are promising a 10% dividend every year. This is far from sustainability of a business and its important you do your statistics very well so as not to make commitment that you won't be able to keep.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 17, 2018, 09:58:56 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

Saying it does not make it believable as investors would need more than mere words to put their funds in your care for use because it needs to be backed by practicability which is the sole of every investment and this can be done in presenting a feasibility report that would show what the fund would really be used for and how its going to be applied and not something vague like you have there.

However, something caught my attention which is the cash reward payment in the amount invested. This is rather an ambiguous statement

Is the 10% a form of buy back in the sense that if I invest $100,000 and I get $10,000 in the first year, does that mean my investment in the company is now $90,000? If that is the case, then you need to review that because it does not give premium on those who invest in the business and not taking into consideration the time value of money.

If the 10% is really a cash reward that does not diminish my investment, then it means you are promising a 10% dividend every year. This is far from sustainability of a business and its important you do your statistics very well so as not to make commitment that you won't be able to keep.
As far as i understand that 10% would be purely a reward and wont really be deducted on your investment that you have putted on. 10% per annual sounds too realistic for me rather than on other projects that do give out bigger returns on a short period of time but usually on these kind of businesses building up trust would be the initial move. Transparency is all we do need because verbal things wont really be enough to convince people and op not minding on showing of his boat business as i recall.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: fibrolit on September 20, 2018, 09:47:33 AM
I unfortunately didn't find your YouTube channel,maybe I just didn't understand which channel is yours. To begin with,I would advise you to communicate on different forums and social networks and provide the audience with extensive data about your work, goal and project. Soon it will become clear whether it is necessary to conduct ICO or not.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz3wH7TvkQ1NbmDZznS1pbQ
The purpose of our project is to create an economy that has no boundaries in development. The main two of our projects are:
-We want to complete the development of the farm of rabbits and bring it to a higher level.
-The next stage of our development is the creation of a farm with goats for the production of milk and cheeses.
To implement our plan, we want to introduce our economy shares in the form of tokens.
To all holders of tokens, we promise the rapid growth of our economy and dividends of 10% per annum, and we will also put our token on the stock exchange for free trade.
What do you think about this?
Why don't you just take out a Bank loan?Or banks do not give credit for these purposes?As far as I understand,the interest rate on the loan would be significantly less than 10% per year,in addition there is no need to conduct ICO and communicate with legal procedures.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: kripkiki12 on October 04, 2018, 03:27:43 PM
I would advise that first create a proper business plan or just sit down and think through where you want to get to. You might come to a conclusion that you will not need an ICO at all because it might cost you more (and not just money but other resources) than you can profit from it


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Zadicar on October 05, 2018, 05:06:03 PM
I unfortunately didn't find your YouTube channel,maybe I just didn't understand which channel is yours. To begin with,I would advise you to communicate on different forums and social networks and provide the audience with extensive data about your work, goal and project. Soon it will become clear whether it is necessary to conduct ICO or not.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz3wH7TvkQ1NbmDZznS1pbQ
The purpose of our project is to create an economy that has no boundaries in development. The main two of our projects are:
-We want to complete the development of the farm of rabbits and bring it to a higher level.
-The next stage of our development is the creation of a farm with goats for the production of milk and cheeses.
To implement our plan, we want to introduce our economy shares in the form of tokens.
To all holders of tokens, we promise the rapid growth of our economy and dividends of 10% per annum, and we will also put our token on the stock exchange for free trade.
What do you think about this?
Why don't you just take out a Bank loan?Or banks do not give credit for these purposes?As far as I understand,the interest rate on the loan would be significantly less than 10% per year,in addition there is no need to conduct ICO and communicate with legal procedures.
There are really business loans which banks can grant and as you said it do mostly have an annual interest of 6-8% (based on my country) which wont really be a big deal and
also i dont see that someone would be interested into this proposal giving or saying out guaranteed profits on whats ahead.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: vallydelly on October 15, 2018, 12:26:05 AM
I think you need to publish a unique white paper that includes all of the details of the project. This shoud include the source of the income that enables the payment of the 10%.
Exactly I don't seems to understand the project they are trying to build, I think the best thing to do is to give a clear explain of what you want to build, state the problem you identified and the solution you are bring to solve it. if the idea is good, investors will come. I am looking for a good start up project to invest into.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Chilli19 on August 11, 2019, 11:16:09 AM
of course, it is interesting.  but what is the point?  Does a person invest his money in channel promotion?  or what?


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: arpon11 on August 19, 2019, 08:22:30 AM
Since it is a working product it is good if you can make good publicity, maybe run a signature campaign about your project as this forum is the easiest place to bring your project to limelight.
Many ideas are coming up and people are looking for ways to rise funds for their businesses through ico and IEO . Your project is unique and you may needs to explain further on how you have become an entrepreneur through YouTube, how profitable it has been and how secure people funds will been if they eventually invested into your projects.



Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: smallrigcn on September 30, 2019, 11:06:40 AM
I think you need to invest your money in the equity market and debenture that is the best method to raise fund early. i hope you like my aswer


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: magneto on September 30, 2019, 12:33:42 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

If you want my thoughts, they aren't going to be positive.

No one is going to be interested in your project, most likely. 10% in a high amount, sure, but it is unsecured by anything other than your word (not even assets on your balance sheet, just for example), and there is no chance for legal recourse in the case of a scam.

I'd strongly suggest that if you require funding, do so via a local bank and business loan. Their interest rates will most likely be significantly less than 10% p.a. as well.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: AndYou on November 01, 2019, 03:54:13 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

I am not sure that is a good idea. In my opinion, you just need using more traditional instruments for obtaining funds, for example, banks and private investors. If you have a channel, you can show statistics, growth dynamics and this will be a good confirmation of your intentions.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: yummy kitten on November 06, 2019, 07:44:34 AM
show me your white-paper


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Toomykins on December 06, 2019, 03:49:02 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

I have not seen your channel on YouTube, but if you have already started with forums and social.perhaps this is a big step in your development. With the development of your business plan, it will be clear whether you need a conclusion that you will not need an ICO at all because it might cost you more (and not just money but other resources) than you can profit from it


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Chromatics on April 30, 2020, 04:27:50 PM
I think your proposal is not well detailed. The only thing your potential customer sees right away is the promise of a 10 percent return. And nothing more. You no longer provide any specifics that would allow the investor to have a good idea of the business. And in any case, at the moment, in my opinion, this is not the time to start any projects. The market is not warmed up enough for there to be demand for this.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: vaultman on June 22, 2020, 08:24:34 PM
A good idea, but investors need a detailed business plan to draw any conclusions. Without specific numbers and indicators, it’s difficult to make a decision.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: zhelis74 on July 02, 2020, 12:11:52 PM
A good idea, but investors need a detailed business plan to draw any conclusions. Without specific numbers and indicators, it’s difficult to make a decision.
Also, having business you must have to endure pain for a long period of time. Questions like what price are you willing to give up. The experience and knowledge along the way will help you achieve your dream!


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: stoat on October 21, 2020, 01:20:51 PM
You need to state exactly what your business is worth, state exactly how much money it makes. and then decide how much of that business you want to sell. if it is a limited company, then you can surely sell tokens backed by those shares. if you cheat your investors they can easily sue you and you will be in very big trouble.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: noormcs5 on February 14, 2021, 05:16:40 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

Instead of asking for investments, you should focus on the development of the project and you can use this forum to advertise your project. Once people are confident, they could think of investment in the project with a good ROI. No one will give you any investment if you just straight ask for money for project growth.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: lolxxxx on February 14, 2021, 05:21:53 PM
Well if I take myself in the position of investing in you how I can be sure that I will get my ROI and in how many months?

You said you sell rabbit meat but have you done the study about your market where you sell that if you increase the production will you still be able to sell it? Any thought on expanding the market from current to other markets as well?

First, you mentioned you are in the Boat business now you stated you will sell meat or does that mean that your family generates the revenue and you put that money in rabbit meat as a side business and now want to expand?

And tell me why this thread belongs to the security section?

Regards


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Bitum on May 29, 2021, 04:10:26 PM
1. official advertisement
2. all relevant links, website, social channels etc.
3. Who are you, where are you active? Team members with info
4. Busness plan, is called WP with further perspectives. How can 10% per year be guaranteed? Reasoning on this.

I think without these basic data you will not arouse any interest in the community, because everything that has been written here is simply abstract and unconstructive


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Saisher on June 27, 2021, 01:22:47 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

There's not enough information to make it appealing to investors, you should create a website a whitepaper and post all the details that every investor wants to know, be transparent to gain the confidence of investors ISO marked will help the project it's a good recognition coming from regulators, 10% per annum is acceptable as long as you can sustain it.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: ultrloa on June 28, 2021, 01:34:25 PM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.

There's not enough information to make it appealing to investors, you should create a website a whitepaper and post all the details that every investor wants to know, be transparent to gain the confidence of investors ISO marked will help the project it's a good recognition coming from regulators, 10% per annum is acceptable as long as you can sustain it.

Better stop quoting the 2 year old reply just to add up or boost your post count since this is really not a good thing to do there are so many updated thread here so better contribute a better discussion to those live threads so that people can read this will not call you spammer.

Hopefully this is the last reply of this thread and let this one sink below.


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Above_The_$torm on November 23, 2021, 02:59:01 PM
Could you please be more specific about the payments included in this project . I would like to hear the whole idea. Youve got my interest and it doesnt sound bad.
thanks


Title: Re: Tell me what you think
Post by: Theones on February 06, 2022, 07:46:33 AM
Hello crypto-community.
Briefly about us. We have a family-owned business that is developing steadily (the channel on YouTube by Fermak). We have such an idea to raise investments for the rapid growth of our economy with the help of the ISO project. We are offering the holders of the token FMK a cash reward of 10% per annum from the amount of the deposit from the first day, and stable growth of token with our economy since we do not plan to stay on the achieved.
What do you think about such a project.
Waiting for the question.
The idea is beautiful - I would suggest to make small interesting video with information so that people get to know about your business and along side learn what you are up to. Arranging a meet-up and inviting kids to the place will also help people know about your business. Good luck!