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Title: scammer
Post by: kingalex53535 on September 13, 2018, 09:48:50 PM
this user is a scammer. I transferred money to his account and did not receive a database
which he promised
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944083


Title: Re: scammer
Post by: jhenfelipe on September 13, 2018, 10:10:56 PM
Complete the details and include some proofs please.
Selling Email/Accounts databases or any other personal info is really unethical, if it's not yours, you don't have the right to sell it. I reported one post with the same purpose earlier.


Anyway, I visited your profile and was a bit surprised with one of your posts (http://archive.is/GqPSm#selection-2125.0-2125.62). For me, it's a bit funny that you commented that on his thread (see quote below) and now you're here saying he's a scammer because you didn't get the database? Oh wow!

to sell databases is not ethical and unlawful
I do not advise making deals with this person


Title: Re: scammer
Post by: Ludji on September 14, 2018, 12:13:41 AM
Complete the details and include some proofs please.
Selling Email/Accounts databases or any other personal info is really unethical, if it's not yours, you don't have the right to sell it. I reported one post with the same purpose earlier.


Anyway, I visited your profile and was a bit surprised with one of your posts (http://archive.is/GqPSm#selection-2125.0-2125.62). For me, it's a bit funny that you commented that on his thread (see quote below) and now you're here saying he's a scammer because you didn't get the database? Oh wow!

to sell databases is not ethical and unlawful
I do not advise making deals with this person


Wtf are you two even talking about? It was my database that I bought, so what's your problem? I've bought it from an internet marketing agency and don't see any reason I can't do what I please with it. It's not hacked it's not exploited in any possible way.

Regarding scams or whatever, I didn't even make a single sale lol so not sure who could I have scammed.

What could have happened rather, is that the OP is someone I reported or outed for scamming as you can see from my post history and is trying to get even. Anyway, this was a colossal waste of time.

Oh yeah, his account was registered on 12th September 2018. Must be legit. Recently I received a threat for posting that a user is scamming on the forum. Here's the image:

https://i.imgur.com/tUjtWKZ.png?1

A day before the OPs account was registered. Fascinating.


Title: Re: scammer
Post by: jhenfelipe on September 14, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
Wtf are you two even talking about? It was my database that I bought, so what's your problem? I've bought it from an internet marketing agency and don't see any reason I can't do what I please with it. It's not hacked it's not exploited in any possible way.
As you can see, discussions haven't started yet before you post.

Okay, let's say you bought the database. The database has a list of emails inside, does that mean the emails already belongs to you? The point is, you don't ask the permissions of the owners that you'll use/sell/make money out of their email addresses. mdayonliner has a good point here too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4601229.msg41548360#msg41548360

Regarding scams or whatever, I didn't even make a single sale lol so not sure who could I have scammed.
That's why I asked him for a proof. His accusation will be nonsense without a strong evidence.

What could have happened rather, is that the OP is someone I reported or outed for scamming as you can see from my post history and is trying to get even. Anyway, this was a colossal waste of time.
Maybe, who knows?


Title: Re: scammer
Post by: Ludji on September 14, 2018, 07:33:13 PM
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That's marketing my friend and it's been like that for a long time lol.

Regarding mdayonliner's post.

Quote
To me this is very unethical business. You are double cheating with people.
- First with the subscribers who trusted you with their contact details and
- 2nd with those who will buy the list.

Imagine 10 customer (fools) end up buying the list, 10 company/customer will sending 10 emails a day or with same shit, is going to end up in the junk folder of the email recipient. No conversion and nothing in return. Waste of autoresponder cost (money), time, bandwidth, memory etc.

A standard opt-in page always have the privacy warning to keep the details protected.

This is utter garbage spilled into text. First of all, if you know how to do e-mail marketing it certainly won't end up in the spam folder. Like it or not it's the world we live in today. What do you think the new GDPR policy is about? Read what they make you accept now and you'll see exactly how privacy is a myth to say the least. Each and every website collects your information and sells it to advertisers - it's how internet marketing works. I was just selling a targeted mailing list, nothing else - no names, no personal info, except an e-mail.

We can debate whether it's right or wrong but calling me a scammer is just stupid. So if you don't mind, I'd rest this case unless the OP manages to produce some evidence that he even spoke to me, let alone conducted business. You can post a new topic where we can debate the moral side of it, but I rest my case here.