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Title: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Phlaser on September 15, 2018, 07:32:47 AM
Donald Trump’s latest SEC pick gives hope to future ETF, top Chinese court rules evidence on blockchain admissible and more.

Get more info here:
https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-and-more-20323/


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: bellamente on September 15, 2018, 07:42:58 AM
"Iceland has launched a new crypto trading platform known as Skiptimynt which offers a Bitcoin trading pairs for the first time since the launch of another exchange known as ISX in 2016. The Skiptimynt exchange will feature two trading pairs; the Icelandic Krona(ISK)/Bitcoin(BTC) and the Icelandic  Krona(ISK)/Aurora coin(AUR). Aurora coin is the country’s alternative to Bitcoin, created in 2014. At the time AUR was launched, it got the cryptocurrency community, the media and even politicians interested in the potential of a Bitcoin alternative. Due to very little adoption of AUR in Iceland, the coin has since been neglected. "

As we see, many countries want to have their own cryptocurrencies. But the universal and generally accepted must be bitcoin


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Wingleness on September 15, 2018, 07:56:33 AM
"Iceland has launched a new crypto trading platform known as Skiptimynt which offers a Bitcoin trading pairs for the first time since the launch of another exchange known as ISX in 2016. The Skiptimynt exchange will feature two trading pairs; the Icelandic Krona(ISK)/Bitcoin(BTC) and the Icelandic  Krona(ISK)/Aurora coin(AUR). Aurora coin is the country’s alternative to Bitcoin, created in 2014. At the time AUR was launched, it got the cryptocurrency community, the media and even politicians interested in the potential of a Bitcoin alternative. Due to very little adoption of AUR in Iceland, the coin has since been neglected. "

As we see, many countries want to have their own cryptocurrencies. But the universal and generally accepted must be bitcoin




Which buttres the point that Bitcoin isn't going anywhere as against those spreading FUD around on how Bitcoin will die and all sort. The cryptospace us gaining more attention each day and as it it SEC can't stop us at all.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: internetlift on September 15, 2018, 08:21:14 AM
The fact that Iceland has decided to raise its economy is a great opportunity to become one of the first countries that create their national cryptocurrency. This is a big breakthrough with the bitcoin ecosystem. But in any case, as other people have said, bitcoin will always be the first coin in the world.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: jseverson on September 15, 2018, 08:36:58 AM
For those who want the SEC news:

Donald Trump’s Latest SEC Pick Gives Hope to Future ETF
Elad Roisman, the newly-appointed pro-crypto member of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) by Donald Trump is already in hot water regarding bitcoin ETF approvals. Roisman becomes the 4th Trump appointee to the SEC, following Michael Piwowar, who stepped down in July. Also in July, Roisman told the Senate Banking Committee that ‘’… the SEC must examine and re-examine its rules, regulations and guidelines to ensure that they are still working as intended to accomplish the SEC’s mission. This is most recently manifested in areas such as data protection and cybersecurity, as well as the emergence of new investments and technologies such as initial coin offerings and blockchain.’’

He went onto say it was “essential the SEC approach these new challenges in a fair and transparent manner, provide clarity and certainty to the markets and investors, and enforce the laws and regulations that hold market participants accountable.”

With Roisman’s confirmation, three out of the five SEC commissioners now have favorable views on cryptocurrencies. However, there’s no timeframe for the approval of any future Bitcoin ETF. Nine proposals from three different issuers were rejected as recently as late August, partly due to fears of market manipulation and the lack of future trading volume.

I'm still not convinced any Bitcoin ETF will be approved anytime soon, but it does look likelier now. For what it's worth, the Winklevoss Twins' ETF was struck down with a 3-1 vote (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/not-great-precedent-hester-peirce-discusses-secs-latest-etf-decision/), with one commissioner not voting, but voicing her disapproval of the decision. It could've been 3-2, which is one flipped vote away from passing.

I still don't know where I firmly stand on the issue, but I can understand how those clamoring for a Bitcoin ETF will see this as positive news. If nothing else, having open-minded people in power is better for the community overall.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Crypto Girl on September 15, 2018, 10:11:40 AM
For those who want the SEC news:

[quote author=https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-
With Roisman’s confirmation, three out of the five SEC commissioners now have favorable views on cryptocurrencies. However, there’s no timeframe for the approval of any future Bitcoin ETF. Nine proposals from three different issuers were rejected as recently as late August, partly due to fears of market manipulation and the lack of future trading volume.
It's obviously that SEC will delay the approval of ETF since there's no time frame and they'll use this to heightened the fears and uncertainty in the community thus manipulating the price.

I'll just grab my popcorn in the meantime and watch all these dramas to be over. Just too tired by this undying issue.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: lizardbtc on September 15, 2018, 10:22:38 AM
For those who want the SEC news:

[quote author=https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-
With Roisman’s confirmation, three out of the five SEC commissioners now have favorable views on cryptocurrencies. However, there’s no timeframe for the approval of any future Bitcoin ETF. Nine proposals from three different issuers were rejected as recently as late August, partly due to fears of market manipulation and the lack of future trading volume.
It's obviously that SEC will delay the approval of ETF since there's no time frame and they'll use this to heightened the fears and uncertainty in the community thus manipulating the price.

I'll just grab my popcorn in the meantime and watch all these dramas to be over. Just too tired by this undying issue.

They know that they will have huge influence and impact on the price and thus they should act accordingly. ETF will eventually be approved but it will take time. It doesn't matter when it will get approved but when it does prices will pump surely. However it is a always good to see that there are some thing happening and that something is moving in crypto space. Such as development and generally good news around.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: iram3130 on September 15, 2018, 10:23:44 AM
Frankly speaking, I think the SEC will delay the decision as much as possible. Keep the crypto universe uncertain and keep the pump and dump on for more time.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: anitaraymonds on September 15, 2018, 10:35:52 AM
This law passed from the parliament  has given more hope for cryptocurrency to be part of SEC any moment from now. The long awaited ETF-SEC admission is now a matter of time and execution meaning it is as good as confirmed. This news has also brighten the hope of cryptocurrency as the future of all financial transaction globally so we are moving to the stage where the demand and usage of bitcoin will be huge. Then the price of bitcoin will soar paving way for the predictions that bitcoin price may reach $25,000 by the year 2025. Let us wait and see how it will play out.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Phlaser on September 15, 2018, 01:30:54 PM
Frankly speaking, I think the SEC will delay the decision as much as possible. Keep the crypto universe uncertain and keep the pump and dump on for more time.

My thought exactly as they would create uncertainty in the Cryptoworld, only to give in the approval when so many might have list hope in it. Irrespective, the good thing is that crypto definitely is the future.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: florac9 on September 15, 2018, 01:46:06 PM
I'm not surprised ,because I've never seen bitcoin losing to a war ,ETF is going to get under bitcoin's foot in the end ,I don't know the time ,day or year but surely bitcoin is capable to defeat anything, its good news all together ,I can see clearly that confidence is coming back into cryptocurrency world in general.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: carlisle1 on September 15, 2018, 02:00:07 PM
The fact that Iceland has decided to raise its economy is a great opportunity to become one of the first countries that create their national cryptocurrency. This is a big breakthrough with the bitcoin ecosystem. But in any case, as other people have said, bitcoin will always be the first coin in the world.

What do you mean by “first country that has national cryptocurrency?”i believe its venezuelan government who created first am i right?

But this is one good news for cryptonians and a cause for celebration,iceland is one good country that has lots of visitors yearly,their tourism is bringing them more income and entering crypto community will give another opportunity for our virtual money to be used and another part of the world


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: vit05 on September 17, 2018, 03:42:39 AM
Trump is one of the variables I most fear. I'd rather he never say anything on twitter about Bitcoin. Any idea or pronounced of it can be devastating. Since he sometimes does not seem to think very well before commenting on something.

He can say something totally favorable and Bitcoin reaches 100k. Or he can say that it is a currecny used by a terrorist and want to banish, and then I have no idea what the price would be.

I just follow his Twitter every day to anticipate the worst case.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: wongdeso on September 17, 2018, 03:59:13 AM
The fact that Iceland has decided to raise its economy is a great opportunity to become one of the first countries that create their national cryptocurrency. This is a big breakthrough with the bitcoin ecosystem. But in any case, as other people have said, bitcoin will always be the first coin in the world.

What do you mean by “first country that has national cryptocurrency?”i believe its venezuelan government who created first am i right?

But this is one good news for cryptonians and a cause for celebration,iceland is one good country that has lots of visitors yearly,their tourism is bringing them more income and entering crypto community will give another opportunity for our virtual money to be used and another part of the world

Iceland gives the opportunity for tourists to pay with bitcoin to enjoy a holiday in their country, it is good if this has been realized, surely tourists will have good access in crypto so they are satisfied with traveling in Iceland.
As a crypto lover, this is a positive thing about bitcoin which is starting to have a place in countries in the world. I think every country will think of a step like this well and wisely about digital money.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 17, 2018, 04:57:32 AM
Donald Trump’s latest SEC pick gives hope to future ETF, top Chinese court rules evidence on blockchain admissible and more.

Get more info here:
https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-and-more-20323/

Why should we start expressing hope because of the selection of certain people into the committee while the composition could mean something, its not enough to express hope until the decision is eventually made because when decision that involves ETFs, it goes beyond the committee. The committee can decide to its favour but all stakeholders in the financial industry would be needed to ensure its success which means if all those variables are not put properly addressed and made to fall in line, it's dead on arrival.

Aside that, federal positions are not something you used for the benefit of your primary constituency as that would mean partisanship that every professionals would want to do against and avoid it to be that obvious in their decision making.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: TungayETH on September 18, 2018, 07:52:27 AM
It is a good thing that there seems to be a hope for bitcoin ETF after all. Because even before, the people had their beliefs that the bitcoin ETF will not get approved again since it was rejected before too.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: serenagomz95 on September 18, 2018, 08:13:27 AM
If President Donald Trump is paying attention to the bitcoin market, it's a real boost to electronic money and will make Bitcoin prices rise. Thank the US voters for a brighter future for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: kzozenberg on September 18, 2018, 08:49:34 AM
Even if the President himself supports ETF, I think it's more than real ! After the introduction of ETFs in Bitcoin will come a lot of money and it will mean a new uptrend. The US government is also interested in ETFs as it will allow them to earn, and I think Donald trump being both a President and a businessman is all well calculated ! I think that you need to slowly start investing in bitcoin but just be careful and buy it in parts.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Sandus_Cryptolover on September 18, 2018, 10:26:05 AM
Even if the President himself supports ETF, I think it's more than real ! After the introduction of ETFs in Bitcoin will come a lot of money and it will mean a new uptrend. The US government is also interested in ETFs as it will allow them to earn, and I think Donald trump being both a President and a businessman is all well calculated ! I think that you need to slowly start investing in bitcoin but just be careful and buy it in parts.


Donald Trump is a businessman as well as a lover of Cryptocurrency, which is the more reason he is interested in the ETF been approved upon. No doubt this news will cause a major upward trend in the price of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies alike if/when approved.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Docnaster on September 18, 2018, 11:40:08 AM
Donald trump is anti-science and anti-progress, I really don't think anything he does is going to help the current state of the economy. Also, ETFs could be a double edged sword for BTC/ETH, there's no guarantee it will cause a price spike.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: dothebeats on September 18, 2018, 12:04:47 PM
Perhaps readying down the line once he loses the presidential elections?

Well I think this is another gimmick of the present administration to convince the people that they are all in for progress, while the SEC commissioners don't really care at all. Traders are eagerly waiting for just one ETF approval and I'm pretty sure the price will go nuts, but in reality even without ETFs, bitcoin can move forward though we have to admit that having such added into the economy just boosts the thing even further. Hopefully though this goes as planned and as advertised by the Trump administration, while a part of me don't really believe into it at all.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: TungayETH on September 18, 2018, 12:59:27 PM
That's an amazing news. Previously the US securities and exchange commission has rejected the Bitcoin ETF proposal multiple times. It is claimed that the new appointed us securities and commission head Elad Roisman might approve Bitcoin ETF soon.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Juggy777 on September 18, 2018, 01:06:47 PM
Donald Trump’s latest SEC pick gives hope to future ETF, top Chinese court rules evidence on blockchain admissible and more.

Get more info here:
https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-and-more-20323/

It's interesting to see that pro crypto enthusiasts are on the Sec board, now 3 out of 5 on the board support bitcoins etf proposal. It's also pertinent to note they have already clarified there's no specific time limit when they'll approve it, which makes me wonder is this another ploy to delay the inevitable and cause panic?. Also isn't it questionable that these people are already biased towards bitcoins?, while I'm looking forward to the Bitcoins Etf their decisions may come under scrutiny later on.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Nexigen on September 24, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
Trump is very intelligent person, who understands what can be of value and what is not. He has a great influence not just because he is president, but because he is an intelligent person who knows how to overcome obstacles. His support for bitcoin will have a very significant impact on the situation.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: abojamal on September 25, 2018, 10:35:24 AM
Donald Trump’s latest SEC pick gives hope to future ETF, top Chinese court rules evidence on blockchain admissible and more.

Get more info here:
https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-and-more-20323/
If your analysis is accurate, why should prices fall?
Uncertainty raises market concerns
  And works on the escape of money
  Let's wait and be quieter in analysis.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Fitrilalala on September 25, 2018, 10:39:20 AM
Donald Trump’s latest SEC pick gives hope to future ETF, top Chinese court rules evidence on blockchain admissible and more.

Get more info here:
https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-and-more-20323/
etf definetly be approved and it will be on 29 December.
Donald Trump’s latest SEC pick gives hope to future ETF, top Chinese court rules evidence on blockchain admissible and more.

Get more info here:
https://cryptocoin.news/videos/bitcoin-this-week-trump-gives-hope-to-bitcoin-etf-evidence-on-blockchain-admissible-and-more-20323/
If your analysis is accurate, why should prices fall?
Uncertainty raises market concerns
  And works on the escape of money
  Let's wait and be quieter in analysis.

well people just panic and many trying to cash out their money i believe this dip would not last long, and we will see significant recovery on november.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Red-Apple on September 25, 2018, 10:46:02 AM
etf definetly be approved and it will be on 29 December.

you forgot to mention what makes you think "this time" will be any different from the 30 other times that they rejected ETFs not even including all the times they postponed it :D

i may be wrong about this part but didn't SEC postpone their decision for 2019?


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: blackbold on September 25, 2018, 11:28:32 AM
if this can be realized by Trump, then the price of bitcoin will be recovery again, but in my opinion it is a very difficult thing because currently the US and China trade wars are heating up again.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: Samarkand on September 25, 2018, 11:40:26 AM
...
Also, ETFs could be a double edged sword for BTC/ETH, there's no guarantee it will cause a price spike.

I think an ETF approval would play out like the launch of the Bitcoin Futures.
A huge price rise in advance of the news of the approval and in advance of the launch
date. Afterwards a huge dump as people take profits. Bitcoin only really
goes on a crazy bull run if there is a catalyst for such a run (MtGox manipulating the market,
BTC Futures, block reward halvings...).

The current sideways price action is at least partly caused by the lack
of a catalyst for a bull run. Besides, the downside risk is also limited, because the price
is not much higher than the average cost of mining a single Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: CryptoGosu on September 26, 2018, 03:47:36 PM
I think the US president will not directly affect Bitcoin. Because cryptocurrencies can negatively impact his reputation if the cryptocurrencies prove to be a failure.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: xWolfx on September 26, 2018, 05:27:00 PM
It's obviously that SEC will delay the approval of ETF since there's no time frame and they'll use this to heightened the fears and uncertainty in the community thus manipulating the price.

I'll just grab my popcorn in the meantime and watch all these dramas to be over. Just too tired by this undying issue.

While you grab popcorn, may i invite you to see the world famous Bitcoin Obituaries?. They're right here: https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

There is really no rush into getting some big change about Cryptocurrency approved so quick. They can still delay some months more, for example. Why not invest more meanwhile?

The people who have their eyes open and can really see are the ones who always gets the most benefits.


Title: Re: Donald Trump's Gives Gives Hope For ETF Future
Post by: prehisto on September 26, 2018, 05:48:25 PM
The tittle makes one think that there was no hope to begin with, but there was and is, the problem is that the Btc market is manipulated thus SEC has to protect investors.
Trump can have some small pressure but it coes down on the SEC commissionaires.