Title: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: AdoboCandies on September 16, 2018, 06:10:25 PM Based on the dictionary Religion is a particular system of faith worship and beliefs. It keeps getting in my mind about what is the right religion? who to worship? because according to Adherents there are 4,300 religions in the world and all of them worship different "Gods" or deities like Jesus Christ, Allah, Shiva, Buddha, Odin, Zeus, Coatlicue other religions worship nature, sun, moon and animals. Although some of it teaches morality and unite people I guess it is just a kind of scam.
They say "Religion is just a community or a credo or an axiom with different prayers, symbols, beliefs with no proofs or an evidence of their gods". I want to know your opinion about this. https://i.imgur.com/LAz0yc5.jpg?1 Adherents (2012) Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations) Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: dogtana on September 16, 2018, 07:40:33 PM I would advise you to believe in yourself and you will achieve great things.
Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: pozmu on September 16, 2018, 07:50:21 PM Two biggest religions worship same God, but does it mean they are right?
I don't think it's that easy, if you dig deep enough you'll find that they're based on older religions, which are based on even older ones... "Faith", "believers" - I don't about other religions, but go ask catholic priest if his religion is "right" and I think majority will answer you that it's what they believe & hope is right, but there is no certainty. But there is one certain thing - it's God is more like Old Testament/ Quran One than New Testament then we're all fucked, because to follow all of His orders in almost impossible, even for orthodox believers. PS Is Buddhism a religion? I heard is more like way of living which you can follow regardless of your religion ??? Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: l3pox on September 16, 2018, 08:44:25 PM Tim Maia, a brazilian singer, once said on the song "nobody can live forever" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqnlsmQnYLg&ab_channel=SianaSinay):
Everybody is the same. "There's no god, there's no heaven. there's no devil, there's no hell" there's no right and wrong, but many shades of truth. but as usual: polarizing and splitting public opinion makes it easier to control people. imho religion is one of the main tools of mass control. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: jeffthebaker on September 16, 2018, 09:27:12 PM Two biggest religions worship same God, but does it mean they are right? I don't think it's that easy, if you dig deep enough you'll find that they're based on older religions, which are based on even older ones... "Faith", "believers" - I don't about other religions, but go ask catholic priest if his religion is "right" and I think majority will answer you that it's what they believe & hope is right, but there is no certainty. But there is one certain thing - it's God is more like Old Testament/ Quran One than New Testament then we're all fucked, because to follow all of His orders in almost impossible, even for orthodox believers. PS Is Buddhism a religion? I heard is more like way of living which you can follow regardless of your religion ??? Buddhism is a practice for exploring spirituality. I think it certainly qualifies as religion. In regards to OP, I personally describe myself as agnostic but I think there is value in any religion as a function for fostering connectivity and collective welfare among a community. The beliefs or practices are irrelevant: the inclusivity, existential value, entertainment, hope, and so on that religion provides to small towns and villages throughout the world is an undeniably beneficial function. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: jonemil24 on September 17, 2018, 03:35:06 PM The Belief system is present since the ancient times. It could have emerged much older before primitive people learn to write. They could have believed that the fire is a god, but it may have confused them when they saw a burning tree struck by a lightning and later on, they decided to worship the lightning that created the fire.
After seeing the fire and lightning, people's beliefs have also evolved. They adorned their homes with statues of their gods in order to please them. Along this belief, they made laws to satisfy their community. Break it, and you will enrage the gods. Lightning will strike upon you, so be obedient, majority of the community might have said to their children in order to stop them from misbehaving. But striking fear to its believers doesn't end there, their gods also gave them hope. If their farms can't yield crops because the land became dry, they pray for the rain. Is your army losing the war? Pray to the gods. If death is upon you, call the gods. Majority of the people will always pray in times of trouble. There could be a diversity of religion, but the good news is; religion is not embedded in our genes. You can teach a child on what to believe, but we will never know what they will believe in future as they grow. You may choose your own religion, but psychology is much better compared to them all. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: Darkoth89 on September 19, 2018, 09:17:30 AM There's only one correct answer. Pastafarian, all hail the flying spaghetti monster. /s
Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: paxmao on September 19, 2018, 10:36:27 AM The best thing to do is to avoid having invisible friends once you reach 5 years of age and distrust people who hear voices that tell them what you should do and believe.
Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: Cosette on September 19, 2018, 10:55:18 AM Moeslim's bible
To You Your Religion and To Me Mine (Qur'an 109:1-6) (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/To_You_Your_Religion_and_To_Me_Mine) It doesn't matter what is the most right religion, just believe with your own religion and respect each other. Every good religion doesn't teach you to steal people money. Every good religion doesn't teach you to kill people without reasons. Every good religion teach the followers to believe in their own god. Sorry for ask and this is no offense, but did you believe in god? A lot of people become lose faith on their god, sometime they asked same question as you did No matter it is, as long as the religion teach people to do something good and respect each other, then its okay. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: vphasitha01 on September 19, 2018, 03:07:56 PM Recently I read a good article in theguardian and I would liked to shared it here. Author of that article gives us consice report what has happened past, what is happening today and what will happened in the future with the religious faith.
Link>>>Religion: why faith is becoming more and more popular (https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/27/religion-why-is-faith-growing-and-what-happens-next) BTW I didn't believe Buddhism as a religion but as philosophy, even though I'm a Buddhist. This picture tells the harsh reality that we didn't want to believe. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: paxmao on September 19, 2018, 03:21:45 PM Moeslim's bible To You Your Religion and To Me Mine (Qur'an 109:1-6) (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/To_You_Your_Religion_and_To_Me_Mine) Every good religion doesn't teach you to kill people without reasons. Excuse me, that implies that THERE ARE good reasons to kill others (or yourself for that matter) and THERE ARE religions that tell you to kill people for those reasons. If a religion is telling you that there are actually valid reasons to kill people it should be banned on the grounds of humanity's self defense. You see? It is so easy to fool people into doing the wrong things in the name of invisible friends. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: paxmao on September 19, 2018, 03:26:42 PM Recently I read a good article in theguardian and I would liked to shared it here. Author of that article gives us consice report what has happened past, what is happening today and what will happened in the future with the religious faith. Link>>>Religion: why faith is becoming more and more popular (https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/27/religion-why-is-faith-growing-and-what-happens-next) BTW I didn't believe Buddhism as a religion but as philosophy, even though I'm a Buddhist. This picture tells the harsh reality that we didn't want to believe. This is a very biased information. You are linking two factors meaning that one is the cause and the other is the effect. The most peaceful countries happen to be the richest. Cause or effect? Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: Cosette on September 19, 2018, 04:07:53 PM Excuse me, that implies that THERE ARE good reasons to kill others (or yourself for that matter) and THERE ARE religions that tell you to kill people for those reasons. If a religion is telling you that there are actually valid reasons to kill people it should be banned on the grounds of humanity's self defense. Yes, but its rarely happen. For example in islam religion, i quoted this from this site https://quran.com/17/33 which is come from bibleQuote And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he has been supported [by the law] Example for this case is, if you got robbed by thief and the thief want to kill you, you need to defend yourself from that thief and in this case you can do everything that you can for defend your life, of course you have choice to make the thief fainted, but in this case you maybe accidentally killed him.However, i'm not an religious expert and i maybe wrong with this. But, for nowadays its rarely happen, except Capital Punishment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment). Just my two cents. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: boy130 on September 19, 2018, 10:58:02 PM There is no right religion. Religion is for stupid people with no ability to think for themselves - pathetic! As long as you live make yourself into something worth worshiping because you are your own god.
Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: TagaMungkahi on September 20, 2018, 03:07:24 AM I concur that Religion is just a community, well, It should be but Religion have been widely used as a tool to exploit people. Religion for me is nothing but a systemic technique that scams out people to do things such as killing non-believers, to invade and as we all know, there is no 100% proven true, only "faith" which is another tool used by these "religious leaders" to exploit people.
Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: paxmao on September 20, 2018, 08:27:01 AM I am fully aware of what the Christian, Hebrew and Islamic mythologies say and that is exactly the problem I am pointing out and basically you are agreeing: Quote And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. That "exception" has created the Crusades, the Jihad, the Inquisition, ... you name it. It is very easy to grant yourself "the right" or convince people that they have that "right" and manipulate them into war, murder, genocide,... Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: markdario112616 on September 20, 2018, 09:20:46 AM Like others said, There's no right or wrong religion. It's up to us who will we worship and not, and how will we practice it's teaching.
Though these comes along with a lot of arguments, the most generic is that religions defies nor separate nations and people. Is it? Well, at some point yes. Through beliefs and these practices, a lot of people tend to be discriminated or been treated differently because of it. Is it worth it to have a religion? Given that it may or will end up hurting others (worst killing). Well, I guess for those who are fully devoted would agreed that it is worth it, others might not. For me, Religion (as of now) is a business with a networking style of environment. In which they recruit members for there own self preservation and might as well agenda. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: Thekool1s on September 20, 2018, 04:30:42 PM Quote Religion is for stupid people with no ability to think for themselves - pathetic! So you are saying the dudes who built Stonehenges and pyramids were stupid? Even with today technology, we can't achieve what our ancestors did. So calling them stupid is an insult. There is a huge chunk of our history which is missing, The recorded history goes back as far as 12,000 years, rest is a total mystery. We don't have all the answers, I believe this should be a good starting point for something like this. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: smutboy420 on September 20, 2018, 04:33:44 PM one is best off to never believe in things that are completely fake and provably false stories meant to control people. Only very young children or the severely mentally ill actually believe religion or believe in sky boogymen.
Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: jackg on September 20, 2018, 05:34:49 PM Why are agnostics and seculars put in the same place.
Agnostics are much more tolerable ;D (in seriousness, they should be split though as they are quite a bit different) - atheists are people who belive there isn't a God definitely, agnostics are less biggotry. Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: blackbold on September 23, 2018, 08:48:44 AM I think all religions have the same thing that leads to a better life, but everyone has their own beliefs what religion is the true
Title: Re: What is the right religion? who to worship? Post by: EmmaBen on September 23, 2018, 09:37:09 PM You asked a good question. And I want to believe that the desire to understand, driven from your inmost inward self propelled you to seek answers, hence your question.
Thus, with love for the world and humanity, I shall try to help you in my own way. Yet, this help is not limited to you alone, it is meant for all who will seriously take the trouble to follow it without delay. The benefits however, as you will later on discover, are priceless. No amount of earthly riches can compare with it. Take the trouble and be FREE at last! Religion irrespective of what the dictionary says is simply a social construct, a medium from man towards his God. An attempt to understand a mysterious, Almighty sublime Being whom we consciously or unconsciously sense to exist. Because religion is a bridge from man to God, there is bound to be errors here and there. And where there are errors regarding faith, and believe in God, something imperfect is. There, the can never be a right or intelligible recognition and conviction in God and his commandments. And man needs this recognition of God and a sound unshakable knowledge of his commandments to enable him walk safely without errors on the road which he should walk on. Without the right understanding and knowledge of God's commandment, the will be errors and, ... failure. It is just the same as having an operator's manual for a machine written by the manufacturer of that machine. Without such a manual, one can endanger his life or cause damage to the machine. Surely, we experience similar and much clearer cases in our day to day lives. Now, man carries the inner awareness of his God. He knows about it! The question of 'science vs religion' in the first place "dares" to be a question because of a lack of or distorted enlightenment. The can never be a question of "does God exists?" because the creations clearly attests to fact that he does exist. As an instance, think of the orderly architecture of the solar system and then compare it to the elementary atom, which is the smallest part of all matter: the structure is basically the same. Would that have happened by chance, as gigantic as the planetary systems are? As infinitesimal as the atom is? This is proof that a Being deliberately creates. And He deliberately puts in his creation laws ( like the operator's manual) to govern the activities in his creation. And man needs the knowledge of this laws to be able to function optimally in this creation which he is a "dispensable" part. These laws are automatically responsible for karma, if transgressed. They answer the question why some people are rich, others are poor. Why some people are black, white, yellow, brown, etc. Why some people are born blind, etc. Why some people are good, others are bad. They answer everything, every question one can think of! Man has constantly tried to aim at an understanding and conception of his God in his unending seeking. He even carries this urge to constantly seek or investigate within him. We always want to know "what is in the other side" , we are constantly pushing our limits, expanding our horizons and wanting to know better. We are hardly tired of this! And also, we carry within us that longing to know our creator, Almighty God. He himself gives it to us as a gift because he knows that it is for our own good. And we express this longing through religion, manifold as it is. But in doing so, we have again and again introduced errors of a varying kind. The Almighty has always spoken to humanity through his numerous messengers. Among all peoples, in all ages, He has always sent forth His message through His messengers. This message contained the truth from out of him. It was meant to explain His living commandments in such a manner that we could understand and execute in obedience. Always, through time, in love, His messengers have been sent forth by Him to fulfill His will to us. It was our duty to obey this will. But we always failed. Thus, Krishna came amongst the Indians, Mohammed in Arabia, Zoroaster in Iran, Buddha, Moses amongst the Israelites, ... And Jesus Christ Himself who Is the Son of God. They all brought the message of God and his laws. But despite this great love of the Almighty towards small human beings, His messengers were always received with hostility and defiance. But one still wonders why many human beings still hold tenaciously to the belief that there is no God. It really bits my wildest imagination. It is the greatest self lie. The greatest self deception. To convulsively hold to the stupid opinion that the is no God! Whoever will not rethink his opinion in this matter has himself to blame. He will be lost! Because this knowledge offers him a strong basis for spiritual growth. Atheist, take note! For the Almighty IS. HE CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. Now, these messengers brought to us, and for us the true message of the Almighty. We received it, each understanding it in his own way. Then in the course of transmissions, we inadvertently or even deliberately added our own opinions to the original. And this became the foundation of so many errors. Even amongst us today, in different denominations, beliefs, sects, etc, of Christian faith, there is dissension of what to believe and what not to. This is clear enough evidence that our religious institutions are on a wrong foundation. Not to talk of what is preached there as faith. In the present day confusion and utmost chaos befalling the whole of humanity, such that humanity knows not her left from her right, in a time where the is unspeakable distress, suffering, natural catastrophies, distrust among nations, hatred and envy of the basest kinds, murder, famine of epic proportions, deseases, fire, hurricanes, drought, etc. Hardly a day passes without one tuning a news channel and listening to news without one dreadful happening or the other. If it is not suicide bombs today, then it is accident of any kind tomorrow. Despite the many councils and counsels in any matter (EU, AU, BRICS, G8, IMF, NATO, FIFA, etc) humanity is defenceless against all these unfolding disasters. And in the midst of all this turmoil, the word of God rings out ever louder, ever brighter as the LAST help and hope of salvation for mankind. Whoever will not listen again will be lost for good. Whoever will not strive to read and grasp its content aright, and strive to leave accordingly has himself to blame, whoever will say: "Ah, it is just another type of the many religions" has himself to blame. There will never be another of such opportunity! It will be gone and gone for good. Just as he will be eternally lost and lost for good! The Almighty does not solicit for our obedience, we are the ones who need him! He does not need us. After all He is the one that created and sustains our existence. It is our duty to approach Him in right worship because such a practice is for our own good. Worshipping of the Almighty does not necessarily require religion because each one of us carries within him the ability to independently approach his creator. And alas, ladies and gentlemen, with great thanks to Him, the source of all life, Almighty God the Father, I introduce you to the Grail Message: "In The Light Of Truth", by Abd-ru-shin. The last saving help from God to man. The necessary indispensable help. The torchlight in darkness. The staff that never let's you fall. The book of creation, the manual of the creation of the creator. His final message to us all. Happy is he who earnestly and vigorously seizes such a wonderful opportunity. "In order to convey to mankind such knowledge, which gives them a clear and intelligible conviction of the working of God in His Justice and Love, I have written the work “In the Light of Truth”, which leaves no gap, contains the answer to every question, and clearly shows to mankind how wonderful are the ways in Creation that are upheld by many servants of His Will. But God alone is Holy!" Abd-ru-shin (Author of the Grail Message) |