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Title: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Iarnnoshre on September 18, 2018, 07:51:40 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: XLadyX on September 18, 2018, 07:55:53 PM
For now, as far as they're still the base tokens for ICOs, they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

I believe other currencies with improved transaction speed etc might come up with better use cases, but it'll take a whole lot of time to over throw those 2 Kings... It's like the dollar vs other currencies.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: MB2017 on September 18, 2018, 08:00:42 PM
On the what kind of survey are you trying to say Just BTC and ETH will vanish? I don't think it's gonna happen. Just in case if like that happen then really it's like the crypto world no more. Even others coins also can't stay alive. Because BTC and ETH have the major community and even BTC has more.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: cryptohunter on September 18, 2018, 08:02:57 PM
For now, as far as they're still the base tokens for ICOs, they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

I believe other currencies with improved transaction speed etc might come up with better use cases, but it'll take a whole lot of time to over throw those 2 Kings... It's like the dollar vs other currencies.

No such currencies without serious trade offs

this seems a very wide spread fallacy regarding so called blockchain3.0 and other such new dreams and talk white papers



Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Hamphser on September 18, 2018, 08:05:20 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?
Analytics do say? Better to ignore those shitty people that do keeps bashing or do give negative comments specially with bitcoin and other top alts too and maybe they prefer to say out to support XRP(Hell NO!)
They can say things as much as they can but crypto community do know on whats the current standing of top 2 coins in the market as of now which they wont really able to reach that state if the support isn't that strong.For now I can see possible coins that would been able to surpass those 2.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: xuv500 on September 18, 2018, 08:08:40 PM
On the what kind of survey are you trying to say Just BTC and ETH will vanish? I don't think it's gonna happen. Just in case if like that happen then really it's like the crypto world no more. Even others coins also can't stay alive. Because BTC and ETH have the major community and even BTC has more.

Obviously, no one can predict the status of the market as of now. It doesn't mean that they are dying. It may turn over a night. These two coins are the pillars of crypocurrencies, I strongly believe this will never happen for sure.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: pitiflin on September 18, 2018, 08:12:04 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings.
Lame,those people aren't really people or they are shills for a shitcoin. ETH and BTC are by far, the most dependable cryptocurrency for people. Please don't trust the "analytics" or you know "surveys".

As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?
Bitcoin and Eth don't really lose, because they aren't fighting anything. Nor is any other crypto. The thing you don't get is, the majority of people who don't like btc or eth don't have a dependable currency, because let's face it, you don't expect every single altcoin to be adopted worldwide, do you? As it is, bitcoin isn't get adopted anywhere either, in a large scale process.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: jacafbiz on September 18, 2018, 08:17:48 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

Sorry to say, I don't think you are making any sense IMO, where do you get your information or findings from, this is not the first time that people will say this is the end of Bitcoin and has come out everytime stronger and better. If you think it is going to lose its value just sell and leave


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: mahilchii on September 18, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
For now, as far as they're still the base tokens for ICOs, they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

I believe other currencies with improved transaction speed etc might come up with better use cases, but it'll take a whole lot of time to over throw those 2 Kings... It's like the dollar vs other currencies.

Definitely these two coins very much improved and most of them started accepting the payment as well. Funny statement that these two will lose. Both coins are best for trading and good for a best return as well.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: VTOS.IO on September 18, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
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Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: VTOS.IO on September 18, 2018, 08:49:32 PM
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Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: fokinflor on September 18, 2018, 08:49:58 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

That's an irrelevant statement. BTC and ETH have a real world use case and they have already delivered what they have promised. They will continue to dominate and on the other hand, we have some other crypto projects as well which are equally good and they might turn out be successful as well.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: andrei56 on September 18, 2018, 09:01:50 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?
If what you were saying was true then those coins will not be at the very top of the market, but that is not what we see, if anything during the bear market we have seen that bitcoin dominance has grown a lot, that is not a sign that people are not trusting in bitcoin, that is a very clear sign that people are seeing that all the market is going down and are investing in the only coin they think it can protect them.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: VTOS.IO on September 18, 2018, 09:02:10 PM
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Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
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Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: dillonplayadoe on September 18, 2018, 09:09:16 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

What kind of survey was this?  Sounds like absolute fake news.  What were the other coins that people felt more secure with?  There is no meat just words. 

For me Bitcoin will be king until the government starts killing people as they put their own crypto out (unless Bitcoin is theirs)


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Classica35 on September 18, 2018, 09:30:38 PM
People are not really dwelling on the death of other altcoins, rather it is now bitcoin and ethereum. As far as i am concerned, these coins are still very relevant and are the most sets of coins used by investors and others who are in the crypto space.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: HyperLup on September 18, 2018, 09:39:14 PM
Everyone's free to say his idea. Analysts say a lot but most of them can't offer a convincing reason. I think bitcoin and ethereum, both currencies will continue on their way.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Iykecollins on September 18, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
Very biased argument with no basis nor foundation, Sorry but reading through your write up shows a lot about you and crypto do not add up. For your information, these have passed through the furnace to get to where they are and you can't just kill them like that


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: chocopapaya on September 18, 2018, 10:18:55 PM
Obviously, btc will eventually die.
I say it has another year or two but beyond that, there is no way it can keep its strong dominance of the market, it is just too old, slow, and expensive to use.

ETH on the other hand, I 100% believe will not die.
Smart contract platforms are the very infrastructure for blockchain to be used in a meaningful way in our daily lives.
And ethereum does it the best by far.
Also, the problems it encounters has very active development on it.
Plasma cash and raiden shoudl be in full use by the end of the year.

The reality of the future market though, is that not one coin will dominate everything like btc does now.
Instead, there will be three or four sharing big chunks of the market share.
That's the way it is going now.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Awoben on September 18, 2018, 10:43:01 PM
In my opinion both will stand out, people go for other coins/tokens now mostly for the return of investment in x5, x10 or more.  Saying btc will die is not true, It's dominance will still be strong,  it's more acceptable all over the world just like USD is in fiat currencies.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Spaffin on September 18, 2018, 10:57:29 PM
I can agree that bitcoin now has some really technical problems and problems with investor confidence. While it is difficult to say what awaits him. A lot will depend on the team that stands behind bitcoin. As for ethereum, if it implements planned improvements that will solve all its problems with scaling, then I see no reason for this coin to lose its popularity.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: killerfrost on September 18, 2018, 11:03:27 PM
If this really happened then I think it's very bad. The electronic money market will collapse. No investor wants to buy bitcoin anymore. The world monetary system will be seriously affected.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: hakertajniak on September 19, 2018, 02:13:56 AM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

Do you think so ? ETH is right, but i don't see any problem with BTC price and trust.
While altcoins has gone down, BTC price still stable. I think it is because peoples sold their altcoins to buy BTC, which mean they trust BTC.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Bakemat on September 19, 2018, 02:40:21 AM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

In my own opinion, ethereum is just tether to bitcoins as well as the other cryptocurrency, so obviously, the price will still grow even more in the market for other cryptocurrency if bitcoins will pump up due to investors demand.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: glasbren on September 19, 2018, 02:59:20 AM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

Could you give the data on those you said that some analyst says about Bitcoin and Ethereum.
Cause the source where those data came from will also matter about the validity of the data itself.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: yanto@1977 on September 19, 2018, 03:08:30 AM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

Bitcoin and Ethereum will survive with their own way, don't think to hard. You can see forex, stock and commodities market they have the same problem but they still survive until now. Low price with small demand make people lost their trust but see from positive side, low price is the best time to buy back, you only need take the right product ( coin ). Know how it works with clearly rules and parameter, see you soon.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: alian17 on September 19, 2018, 03:11:06 AM
BTC has been developing for several years. ETH also developed crazily last year. Compared with other technologies. Already relatively mature. Many people are talking about blockchain 3.0. But these technologies are not yet being implemented. The technology is immature. It will take some time for new technology to come out.



Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Bosmuda on September 19, 2018, 03:19:13 AM
No, I don't think like that if bitcoint and ethereum will lose, this is narrow thinking, in my opinion these two cointos remain a good and strong coint even now no one can beat this coint, and I believe for the future bitcoint and ethereum remain a strong coint


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: gangem07 on September 19, 2018, 03:19:19 AM
Bitcoin and Ethereum have reach so far in terms of price and popularity although the value may not good as of now but these two coins has the ability to grow again and has a high potential to increase the value.Btc and Eth is the most and reliable coins at all times.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: nerttor on September 20, 2018, 11:16:33 AM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?
New promising ICO are needed to support Ethereum. The drop in the price of Ethereum is due to a drop in interest in the ICO. The basic rule of the market - demand vs supply. The general decline in the market also played a role, of course


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: cryptobae10 on September 20, 2018, 11:34:48 AM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

Firstly you need to understand that both bitcoin and Etherum do not have trust Jesus
Stop listening to folks spreading fuds with their aim making you panic and dump unnecessarily

Focus on the most important, work on your researches too
In crypto currency; everyday is a raining day


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Eleven86 on September 20, 2018, 11:44:46 AM
If this really happened then I think it's very bad. The electronic money market will collapse. No investor wants to buy bitcoin anymore. The world monetary system will be seriously affected.

Yes that's correct if this happens then people will lose the trust in the crypocurrency. Bitcoin and ethereum were the hot topics, yes as the market situation is worsen now that doesn't mean it will die. Even they will have a plan like how they want to recover from this tough situation. Ups and down are the main part in trading lets have belief in this.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on September 20, 2018, 11:56:35 AM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

Do you think so ? ETH is right, but i don't see any problem with BTC price and trust.
While altcoins has gone down, BTC price still stable. I think it is because peoples sold their altcoins to buy BTC, which mean they trust BTC.

All eyez on BTC and people put all funds in BTC if market goes down. Bitcoin is number one, no doubt. ETH will be alright too from this price level I think


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: zedaq on September 20, 2018, 12:04:07 PM
I do not agree with the opinion of people who believe that bitcoin or ETH will be able to die or something like that. Because these projects today keep people's interest in the crypto-currency sector, think about it, because today everything is based on these projects.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: carrigan on September 20, 2018, 12:57:25 PM
The value and rate of both bitcoin and ethereum recently is very low. It can be seen that it's likely collapsing. however, it is only the cycle of the market. It is not meant to lose. Just be positive thinking always the real fact is now very blooding.


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Msile on October 01, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
As some analytics say, both bitcoin and Ethereum have serious problems with their prices and trust of people. Recent survey shows that people tend to trust other cryptocurrencies more than two our kings. Is it the end of the world for them or just usual rainy days that are going to end quite soon? It would be great to find out all the reasons for such things, but it scares me a little, seems too complicated to be understood at once. I do not want to make everybody panic, just want to look at the facts clearly without all these "Ethereum and bitcoin can not die" and "how did you dare to even think about such stupid finish for those two great projects". I do not speak I'll about them and I do not want them to die, but really, let's face the truth - it will never happen or will? What are your arguments for and against this problem? Can 6ou leave all emotions behind and look at the problem from different and unusual for you angle for a while?

It is not the end for them, the two cryptos are so priced because people realize that they are valuable and their projects are valuable ones. Just because the market is in a bear right now does not mean that it is the end of the world for the coins. We have all been here before, bears are normal, they are the way that the market corrects itself everytime


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: kingsman03 on October 01, 2018, 06:05:19 PM
Well I think those analysts are trying to draw some attention to themselves. It will very difficult for this to happen. As far as I know they will remain at the top. There is a huge gab already


Title: Re: Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are going to lose
Post by: Freegan on October 14, 2018, 08:54:54 PM
I have serious doubts that ethereum has the capacity overcome the current loss of credibility that has made it fall so abruptly in marketcap. However, despite the emergence of new cryptocurrencies that presume to be more flexible and technologically advanced than bitcoin, this has not only been persisted as the most popular crypto, but in these times of crisis it has been constituted as a store of value resorted by many of those who have invested in this market, so we should not be surprised that in recent months it has consistently recovered its dominance, rising from 30% a few months ago to the current 53%.