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Title: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: mascondante on September 21, 2018, 06:25:10 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452809164532613151/492554964007124993/ACEDCASHLOGOPSDFILE.png
Website (ICO Live) (https://acedcash.com/) | Discord (https://discord.gg/RXy2Mgz) | Telegram (https://t.me/AceD_Cash) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/acedcoin) | Bounties (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038935.0)

AceD Vault will offer packages with fixed DAILY compounding dividends paid in AceD Cash. These packages also offer a fair distribution built for long term sustainability. In order to spread the word about AceD Vault, AceD Vault also offers a generous tiered referral program.

Your PoS solution for AceD coin. Consider it your AceD savings account. You can purchase ACH via our AceD Vault here (https://acedcash.com/ico).
If you're new to AceD you can catch up via our original announcement (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4159695.0).
If you have any questions or comments the easiest way to reach us is on Discord (https://discord.gg/RXy2Mgz).
Updates can be found in the second post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034204.msg45972399#msg45972399).

COIN NAME: AceD Cash
TICKER: ACH
ALGORITHM: 100% PoS
PREMINE: 15m
MAX SUPPLY: 250m
BLOCK TIME: 1 minute
BLOCK REWARD: 50 ACH

Earn dividends. Spend dividends anywhere daily with your $ACH debit card. First 1000 Pro and Expert package holders may reserve an $ACH debit card. Released 2019 Q1.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440016613589123092/493529103664807939/Aced_debit_card.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/492842195867533322/493688954009288704/Information-_AceD_Vault.png?width=1202&height=677

#
Package
Price ($ACH)
Dividends Accrued Daily
Capital Return
1Starter
250-5000
0.15%
After 240 Days
2Medium
5001-25000
0.17%
After 210 Days
3Pro
25001-50000
0.20%
After 180 Days
4Expert
50001+
0.25%
After 150 Days

ICO_Round
Date
Price
Round 1
Sep 21-22
$0.25
Round 2
Sep 23-29
$0.30
Round 3
Sep 30-Oct 06
$0.40
Round 4
Oct 7-13
$0.50
Round 5
Oct 14-20
$0.55

Main Net and Internal Exchange launches October 21st 2018
Personal wallets for local staking will be released


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492564933746229250/ACHIGc.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492564990675386378/achplans.png


Referral Program
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492578034264834048/green-token-percentage03.png
AceD Cash offers a rewarding referral program with 3 levels, 3%, 1.5% and 0.5%. Each level is the distance from your original referral. So if you refer person A, and person A refers person B, and Person B refers Person C, You receive 3% of person A's original investment, 1.5% of person B's original investment, and 0.5% of person C's investment.



Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mascondante on September 21, 2018, 06:26:55 AM
Updates:

[9/27/2018]Bounty program has launched. 20,000 ACH up for grabs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038935.0).
CASINO INVESTMENT IS NOW LIVE. Please see sidebar under Package→My Casino Stake on the AceD Vault (https://acedcash.com/) platform for more info.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: vella85 on September 21, 2018, 06:35:18 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452809164532613151/492554964007124993/ACEDCASHLOGOPSDFILE.png

AceD Bank will offer packages with fixed DAILY compounding dividends paid in AceD Cash. These packages also offer a fair distribution built for long term sustainability. In order to spread the word about AceD Bank, AceD Bank also offers a generous tiered referral program

Your PoS solution for AceD coin. Consider it your AceD savings account. You can purchase ACH via our AceD Bank here (https://acedcash.com/ico).
*20% bonus if you purchase with AceD
If you're new to AceD you can catch up via our original announcement (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4159695.0).
If you have any questions or comments the easiest way to reach us is on Discord (https://discord.gg/yMTRTsj)

What is AceD Cash?


AceD Cash is a new innovative cryptocurrency emerging in this new age of digital finance.

AceD Cash is the official currency of the AceD Bank, an investment platform in the AceD coin ecosystem.

AceD Bank & AceD Cash are tethered to AceD Coin. The only means of obtaining AceD cash are in the ICO or by exchanging AceD Coin through AceD Bank's internal exchange. AceD Cash will yield daily and sustainable returns on investment packages, making it a premium investment for long term future gains.

COIN NAME: AceD Cash
TICKER: ACH
ALGORITHM: 100% PoS
PREMINE: 15m
MAX SUPPLY: 250m
BLOCK TIME: 1 minute
BLOCK REWARD: 50 ACH

Main Net and Internal Exchange launches October 21st 2018
Personal wallets for local staking will be released


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492564933746229250/ACHIGc.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492564990675386378/achplans.png


Referral Program
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492578034264834048/green-token-percentage03.png
 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492578034264834048/green-token-percentage03.png)
AceD Cash offers a rewarding referral program with 3 levels, 3%, 1.5% and 0.5%. Each level is the distance from your original referral. So if you refer person A, and person A refers person B, and Person B refers Person C, You receive 3% of person A's original investment, 1.5% of person B's original investment, and 0.5% of person C's investment.



I have quoted this so people can see the images! I wish the team all the best on this and may it be a long and successful project! If AceD is anything to go by this should do well.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mascondante on September 21, 2018, 11:28:15 PM
Thanks for that, vella85. I don't know why images stopped working for me.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mascondante on September 22, 2018, 02:51:02 AM
Haven't heard back from a BCT moderator yet so we went ahead and got a copper membership. That seems to have cleared up whatever caused our rank to get reset to newbie. Remember to come check us out on Discord (https://discord.gg/yMTRTsj) if you have any questions/comments.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: merridaa on September 22, 2018, 03:12:46 AM
it seems to be a promising long-term project, because the announcement is interesting by seeing the promise of profits for referrals that are getting higher, not a bad idea to follow the next step


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mcjewbie on September 22, 2018, 03:22:47 AM
I purchased 1000 ACH today. Planning to do more. AceD Platform is a great established coin and I am very supportive of this idea.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: TimeTeller on September 22, 2018, 11:45:58 PM
If you are aiming to be a cryptocurrency bank, at least disclose your team members.
Trust is needed in this kind of business, and it's hard to trust if it's anon team.
Also, since security is very important. Have you done tests for possible attacks?


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mcjewbie on September 23, 2018, 02:57:11 AM
If you are aiming to be a cryptocurrency bank, at least disclose your team members.
Trust is needed in this kind of business, and it's hard to trust if it's anon team.
Also, since security is very important. Have you done tests for possible attacks?

Same team as the AceD platform which can be found here.

https://acedcoin.com/

Although, I agree it should be visible on the website. cheers


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: xekuwafam on September 23, 2018, 04:16:26 AM
I will invest in this ICO more than in any other ICO. Glad to join, hope to see it on exchanges soon and to see more update this month.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: feyetun on September 23, 2018, 04:58:34 AM
Is your ACED WALLET is safe? What guarantee you provide for that? Have to consider safety first on internet.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: xekuwafam on September 23, 2018, 05:11:45 AM
Also don't you have a telegram account for your business to connect with?


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mcjewbie on September 23, 2018, 05:32:31 AM
Also don't you have a telegram account for your business to connect with?

Yes I found there telegram account here:

https://t.me/AceD_Cash

The team should update ANN with all official links


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: voteformeg on September 23, 2018, 05:38:21 AM
is this the big announcement from the original aced thread , why are you using a new thread for this announcement? if it is still the same aced team , i know that it is another kind of project but as an investment platform it would be good to know the team


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mcjewbie on September 23, 2018, 07:35:36 AM
is this the big announcement from the original aced thread , why are you using a new thread for this announcement? if it is still the same aced team , i know that it is another kind of project but as an investment platform it would be good to know the team


I think the new thread was to introduce the new currency that came along with the platform "AceD Cash" I'm on their discord and the devs have confirmed that they will be updating the team section shortly


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: TimeTeller on September 23, 2018, 11:13:42 PM
If you are aiming to be a cryptocurrency bank, at least disclose your team members.
Trust is needed in this kind of business, and it's hard to trust if it's anon team.
Also, since security is very important. Have you done tests for possible attacks?

Same team as the AceD platform which can be found here.

https://acedcoin.com/

Although, I agree it should be visible on the website. cheers

No profile links? Is that their twitter or telegram username?
Have the Aced project deliver their objectives already?
The reason why they creating another one?


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: TravelFrog on September 23, 2018, 11:20:23 PM
I understand Aced Cash is another project from aced team is there any reason this project is separate from aced coin entity’s? Compare to dashboard, escrow and gaming? Is it using aced coin to buy aced cash consider internal exchange which will be start at 21 Oct 2018?


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 23, 2018, 11:22:33 PM
I understand Aced Cash is another project from aced team is there any reason this project is separate from aced coin entity’s? Compare to dashboard, escrow and gaming? Is it using aced coin to buy aced cash consider internal exchange which will be start at 21 Oct 2018?

more than likely, its another income-generating project for the team. correct me if im wrong. they are creating another one, hoping that they will get another source of money here...


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: notblox1 on September 23, 2018, 11:23:01 PM
Is Aced Cash connected with origianal Aced coin and how ?

Edit:
I found the answer...
AceD Cash is the official currency of the AceD Bank, an investment platform in the AceD coin ecosystem.
AceD Bank & AceD Cash are tethered to AceD Coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mcjewbie on September 24, 2018, 08:16:24 AM
I understand Aced Cash is another project from aced team is there any reason this project is separate from aced coin entity’s? Compare to dashboard, escrow and gaming? Is it using aced coin to buy aced cash consider internal exchange which will be start at 21 Oct 2018?

Yes, you may purchase $ACH using your AceD Coins. There is an automatic calculator on the ICO page and a 20% bonus for I believe another 3 days. Join their Discord/Telegram if you require any further support.
Alternatively you can also pay VIA BTC and many other alts through changelly.

Discord:
https://discord.gg/kBB5nNT

Telegram:
https://t.me/AceD_Cash

Good luck and remember to DYOR. I'm onboard with this one, I really like the concept I think its sustainable long  term. Following this project for over 2 months now. They have released a gaming hub, streaming platform, and a masternode monitoring tool within 3 months of coin birth.


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: mcjewbie on September 25, 2018, 10:04:52 AM
received my referral rewards today! thank you


Title: Re: [ANN][ACH][ICO]AceD Cash Investment platform Fixed dividends Reinvest Referrals
Post by: chunkycash445 on September 25, 2018, 11:16:08 PM
same, received my referral rewards as well.
looking into buying a package tonight. like the concept, supportive of the aced platform
great team, leads to greater results. Good luck


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: mcjewbie on September 26, 2018, 06:57:48 AM
Rewards are piling up daily as promised. I will be running a YouTube campaign to promote this project. I will provide a link here once my first video is live.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: mcjewbie on September 26, 2018, 10:51:50 PM
Announcement just went out on their discord

"We will be introducing a new program for $ACH package holders to convert their dividends into a % of our casino stake (currently blackjack, poker at 80% completion), so that the community may invest in our casino. 90% of the casino profits will be split among the casino investors. The more you invest, the higher your % will be. For example, if you convert a 7500 $ACH package into a casino stake, you will not receive $ACH dividends, but instead receive a percentage of the daily profit from our casino in ACED. If the casino loses or makes no profit, you won’t lose any coins, but you won’t receive a payout for that day. Program will be live in a few days."

This is very interesting, gives investors an opportunity to earn dividends from Revenue.

Great idea


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: faheem5405 on September 27, 2018, 10:27:54 AM
A friend of mine told me about Aced Cash and i like the idea, i think that the project has a big potential to be successful!
It's a really good project with awesome community, investors to be more motivated to hold and more people to hear about Aced Cash.
I support. I really like this project. I think that Aced Cash will pleasantly surprise us in the future.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: genuin on September 28, 2018, 04:11:36 AM
This will be a great task for dev to maintain the existence of the project. Making investors interested is one way to make this project big. Is there a whitepaper so people can read your entire project?


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: marufnang on September 28, 2018, 04:29:18 AM
About the debit card of AceD, where will the card accepted? will it able to be used just like regular debit card to pay many kind of transaction in some merchant that accept mastercard or any other.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: desi_translator2018 on September 28, 2018, 04:46:50 AM
RESERVED for HINDI translaion....

helloo admin.... can i translate ANN page / WHITE paper  to HINDI(INDIA) language ??

here is my portfolio.....
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TTRWTdF-VC71_TgP4dcsy6wH4BoL9cxB

waiting for your confirmation..... thank you....


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: Thomas Lyons on September 28, 2018, 09:10:23 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452809164532613151/492554964007124993/ACEDCASHLOGOPSDFILE.png
Website (ICO Live) (https://acedcash.com/) | Discord (https://discord.gg/RXy2Mgz) | Telegram (https://t.me/AceD_Cash) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/acedcoin) | Bounties (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5038935.0)

AceD Vault will offer packages with fixed DAILY compounding dividends paid in AceD Cash. These packages also offer a fair distribution built for long term sustainability. In order to spread the word about AceD Vault, AceD Vault also offers a generous tiered referral program.

Your PoS solution for AceD coin. Consider it your AceD savings account. You can purchase ACH via our AceD Vault here (https://acedcash.com/ico).
If you're new to AceD you can catch up via our original announcement (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4159695.0).
If you have any questions or comments the easiest way to reach us is on Discord (https://discord.gg/RXy2Mgz).
Updates can be found in the second post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034204.msg45972399#msg45972399).

COIN NAME: AceD Cash
TICKER: ACH
ALGORITHM: 100% PoS
PREMINE: 15m
MAX SUPPLY: 250m
BLOCK TIME: 1 minute
BLOCK REWARD: 50 ACH

Earn dividends. Spend dividends anywhere daily with your $ACH debit card. First 1000 Pro and Expert package holders may reserve an $ACH debit card. Released 2019 Q1.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440016613589123092/493529103664807939/Aced_debit_card.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/492842195867533322/493688954009288704/Information-_AceD_Vault.png?width=1202&height=677

#
Package
Price ($ACH)
Dividends Accrued Daily
Capital Return
1Starter
250-5000
0.15%
After 240 Days
2Medium
5001-25000
0.17%
After 210 Days
3Pro
25001-50000
0.20%
After 180 Days
4Expert
50001+
0.25%
After 150 Days

ICO_Round
Date
Price
Round 1
Sep 21-22
$0.25
Round 2
Sep 23-29
$0.30
Round 3
Sep 30-Oct 06
$0.40
Round 4
Oct 7-13
$0.50
Round 5
Oct 14-20
$0.55

Main Net and Internal Exchange launches October 21st 2018
Personal wallets for local staking will be released


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492564933746229250/ACHIGc.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492564990675386378/achplans.png


Referral Program
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367919386792558593/492578034264834048/green-token-percentage03.png
AceD Cash offers a rewarding referral program with 3 levels, 3%, 1.5% and 0.5%. Each level is the distance from your original referral. So if you refer person A, and person A refers person B, and Person B refers Person C, You receive 3% of person A's original investment, 1.5% of person B's original investment, and 0.5% of person C's investment.


Dear ACED CASH Team
Your coin may be free of listing on Aiodex if the number of votes is large enough.
Let's vote for it ☞ https://aiodex.com/?ref=5b45a599c7165734d36bb3fc
Please, Don't hesitate to let us know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Aiodex Team
Discord: https://discord.gg/RvhvdZq
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aiodexofficial
Twitter: https://twitter.com/aiodex_official
Telegram: https://t.me/aiodex_official
Website: https://aiodex.com
https://i.imgur.com/XQOTlQU.png
https://i.imgur.com/aGJudB0.png


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: dinans2018 on September 28, 2018, 03:30:15 PM
#Proof Of Authentication
Bitcointalk profile Url: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2128126
Telegram Username: @Dinans200


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: adnan39 on September 29, 2018, 11:46:13 AM
Aced cash updated the platform with two packages called Dividend --> Casino Stake and Casino Stake -> Dividend. $10 ACH WILL be deducted from now on every time you convert between the two.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: Margary on September 29, 2018, 12:01:27 PM
I drew attention to the active team, to her active and diligent work. this is very important for the development of any project. perhaps this project will have future prospects and great development through support.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: adnan39 on September 30, 2018, 09:50:50 AM
Today is the last day to buy $ACH at 30 cents. Starting tomorrow, the price will be 40 cents per $ACH. To check the price at any given time, see the rate in the AceD Web Wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: TeamTT on September 30, 2018, 10:02:52 AM
Credit card picture? For what? It's impossible to make a cc even for big projects for months/years. Remove this picture, it's there just to fool noobs...


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: vella85 on September 30, 2018, 10:57:14 PM
Not sure if many are aware of this but ACH can be used to buy a share in the AceD casino games where they share 90% of the profits made each day. I read on their discord that only 2 people have purchased a share in the casino and that they are earning 40% each of the profits daily. If this is something that interests you then check out their discord and the ACH website for more details on this. By the way Dice and Poker are almost complete which will add another two games to the two they have now and I'm sure many more games will be coming in the near future!


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: adnan39 on October 02, 2018, 10:35:33 AM


package aced cash re lowering the casino stake package to 10 $ACH again to promote the DICE game.

game_die  - Anyone with 10 $ACH in their account may play dice to multiply their balance by purchasing any 10 $ACH package.

moneybag Exchange rate updated for AceD -> ACH conversion. Check your web wallet.
 
house The house is up 34 AceD.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: adnan39 on October 10, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
Very friendly admin .. u can ask anything regarding project to dev on discord


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: adnan39 on October 10, 2018, 04:27:37 PM
Aced cash team have done a wonderful job on the website. Gaming use caught my attention. exciting times ahead


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: adnan39 on October 11, 2018, 11:46:03 PM
Investors getting daily profit through aced cash casino staking investments..cool


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: Takzan on October 11, 2018, 11:56:26 PM
The project is based on a good idea, as the interest in anonymity is constantly growing. The use of blockchain for data exchange and decentralized anti-virus software improves security.


Title: Re: [ANN][$1@Launch][PoS]AceD Cash Hybrid Stake/Invest Platform+Debit Card[ICO LIVE]
Post by: luksbit on October 12, 2018, 12:23:41 AM
But after ICO, can  get AceD Vault and AceD Cash on other exchanges? That is, will it be listed in foreign exchanges after the end of ICO?