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The new rule about has some how relieved the group a bit of spam but the question is that is one merit enough
 Well I feel one getting one merit is not a task that requires gives some one right to where signature some many people can beg for it, blackmail or even buy it so as to get it and continue their shit posting I feel at least 10 or 5 merit should be a standard this way it makes it more harder and only deserving individuals can get it with some great post and it will be expensive to buy or get through other means

Depends what you're asking. I think it's fair enough to go from Newbie to Junior Member (though I wouldn't be against it being five or even ten merit), but I don't think Junior's should be able to get a signature from a solitary merit, especially when it is so easy to just beg or buy or trade a single merit. I personally think signatures should be removed from Juniors and to get one you need ten merit and to become a Member. That would cut down on a lot of abuse and make it ten times harder to be able to earn via signatures here and hopefully it's something theymos will consider. I don't think anything is set in stone here either and it would be simple to require more merit and maybe that will happen if it becomes clear over time that abuse is rife and not really stopping many spammers.

I feel like bounty spammers are getting more creative these days. They are making brand new profiles in pursuit of that single precious merit.
Not having pages upon pages filled with bounty reports does help their case. Well played guys, well played!  ;)

With all due respect sir there is nothing played here I just made a comment pls it high time the account of spammer  should not be melted on other. Is it a crime to be a newbie or am I been picked on because I am not up to your standard

Agreed.
Others now need 1 merit but because you are special, you and only you will need 10.

Not really picking on you or anybody in particular. It's just general observations based on multiple recently made accounts being merited for whatever reason.

You are a newbie with 2 posts so it was not hard to check your post history. Both posts are compaining about the new merit system, nothing else. As soon as you start to post things that help the members here on the forum, you'll have a chance to get a merit from the merit sources. If you are reading the forum for a long time, you should know the merit system, so if you need merit, you need to start to add value to the forum. If you are a newbie (a real one), you should read first before you complain. It's not that hard to get 1 merit if you post quality things, so you should give it a try.

I still believe that the optimum structure is to have a zero merit requirement for newbies and juniors, and strict signature restrictions to prevent them spamming for bounties. This means that newbies will be newbies, and juniors will be either "members in training" or spambies without hope. At the moment, good newbies are lumped together with the "no hopers".

You need ten to get up to member rank,that should be your goal..
  I used to be simply a bounty hunter,but the new system requires a lot more.. Hoping to rank up in coming months,i do not know much compared to the guys in here but I'm trying hard

Beginners do not how can not understand that this forum was created for the development and popularization of the crypto currency.
People come here to earn money, and they are ready to spam our forum with useless messages in order to get tokens (which may not be traded on the exchange).

We have already discussed and discussed many times, it's time to change our attitude to the forum.
Nobody here forbids to wear signatures and earn money. But try at least 50-100 of your posts to write something useful (at least 1 post).

I see a huge amount of indignation from users who have 100-200-300 posts. If you look at his profile, there is one shitposting.
Of the hundreds of posts there is nothing to give merit to.

Revise your attitude to the forum, be useful!

I am agree with you that hard work is key to success as we all know, same in this case, as we all know that membership will be given to those whose answers are best among all or you have to pay for its membership, without doing so it is just like purchasing medals for your selves and feel the winner, that is the sign of stupidity.

I bet you will not get merit if you use the word "sir" frequently in the future, I am sure that the old members of the forum have been very disgusted with the word.
The best advice I can give you is "please stop using the word "Sir" and don't use it in the future."

Pls sir this your advice is the worst I have heard all year
Sir is a way of showing politeness I just made a post and I knew it would be greeted with a lot of criticism well I know some will like it and some will not.  And for the record sir I will not stop using the word because it has and will take me places

It's not the worst advice. You're certainly free to use "sir" and I'm sure many appreciate it or don't care either way, but most of the people I know on here actually don't like it when people use it. It seems more fake and sycophantic to me, and it's usually used when people are trying to suck up or apologise for something they've done wrong. You really don't need to use it. Just call people by their username and show politeness or respect in other ways if you wish.

Also, why are you assuming everyone is a sir? There are over 42 different genders and you are assuming we're one of two. #triggered.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h80uso70GLs/hqdefault.jpg

I would argue that.  ;D

Word Sir is offensive to most people and it's being associated with shitposters. It won't take you far, at least not here in this forum.

The only reasonable use of Sir is when referring to Satoshi Nakamoto, it is well-documented and widely approved by the users here.

Smile. OK hilarious I got it in my system now

OK I get your thoughts now and I don't think am a shit poster you can trust Me on that

I couldn't understand the first 7 words of this post, so you're going on my ignore list. 

Newbies really ought to give up on making all these threads here, because the only thing they're doing is showcasing their egregious mangling of the English language, and these posts usually say very little that's original.  This particular guy is going on my ignore list.

Edit:  I looked at his posts, and the only ones I'm allowed to see are in Merit ever since the new merit sources were added.  It's not an unreasonable expectation that his prior posts were in spam megathreads--but someone correct me if I'm wrong.  I have a lot of sections blocked.

That would be a good idea because majority of people coming to the forum these days only care about the bounty and nothing else and they will be the first to dump the tokens at any price when they manage to get the tokens, which has brought a bad name to bounty hunters in general. I believe with time, it will get to that level, it's a gradual process.

it all depends on the person one merit may be enough for some people but others may want 2,3 or even a lot more. For me one merit would be fine but like i said someone else might want 10 or even a 100 but i think those people are willing to write a lot of posts and may really like helping people learn about bitcoin. I will help people learn about bitcoin when i can even if i don't get a merit for it. It is not about what you get its about the feeling you get from helping someone.

haha to be that's funny. Is it really a thing to beg or buy merits? I thought this is a way of distinguishing shit posting from actual help.

But to the original question, I think 1 merit is quite enough. You can see MANY newbies here with 100+ posts without a merit. So I don't think this would be an issue. I like the new rule.

sweetrose1968 but you shouldn't want just one. We all need to better ourselves in the forum quality of posts. No one but maybe early bounty hunters would stop at 1 merit.

What's funny? Yes, people do beg or buy merits, and sadly there are people who are willing sell or give them away just for asking and that's why one merit isn't enough. I think you're probably just biased because you know the chances of you getting ten merit are much, much harder (though far from impossible for you). You look to have got lucky on the two you have received so far, but fair enough. Many other people also get lucky and receive one merit when they don't really deserve it and one really isn't enough because anyone can get lucky or just copy and paste a post or content and get merit for it. One or two merit doesn't qualify you to be able to earn here and ten makes that a much better test of your ability and also much harder to abuse. Ten merit is nothing at all to a great poster and one could get that with one or two well thought out posts, but one merit doesn't stop much in the grand scheme of things. There are many newbies with hundreds or even thousands of posts because they contribute little to nothing but spam here and the bigger their post count with a lack of merit will usually instantly tell you a lot.

I can't understand why people who come to this forum and write about the merits, "saying that you need to get 1 credit to use his signature"
Why are you doing this?
Why do you write about it here and complain and say that it is difficult to do? Many old-timers this forum not like to see such messages, the more the first messages your. Don't take credit for it. Challenge yourself a week to write a useful guide on the subject which you understand and every week write such reports on this forum. In a month you will be noticed and by that time you will have a lot of useful information.
Why would you stop at only 1 merit?
You need to grow to a senior and get encouragement from other participants. I personally met such participants who have earned more than 250 merits since the introduction of the new rules in 2018, it is really impressive. Become the best and then around you there will be people who admire you. Good luck mate.

you are working in international forum where "sir" if used means the user just trying to beg the favor of others.  So advise of the friend not using "Sir" in your chat is 100% correct.  But still you are using it.  OK it's up to you to accept the advise of the old members or not.  But on not accepting the loser will only be yourself.
Though your suggestion of 5-10 merits is good because earning 5-10 merits means much labor and sincerity. 

One merit is simply enough ,the Admin never make a mistake ,l believe they took statistic and value each post or comment the forum member make.l believe that  if the activities of bounty managers are check mate it will also reduce spam in the forum.we need to deal with root cause of the spam and not the spammers in the forum ,if this is achieve the purpose of the forum will come to limelight again.

The updated merit requirement has brought frustration and desperation under one roof.  ;D

I don't see anything suspicious that would make you doubt writing good messages. I would rate them 3+ out of 5. Of course, the author has a lot of articles that look foot bindings and I think that this is not a unique text. Tested for uniqueness through the service text.ru (only 2 articles) shows that the author, indeed he wrote, 100% uniqueness. So you decide...

That's my suggestion, to have an additional 5 merits requirements because if we really want to avoid spammers here, we should put a huge barrier to avoid those accounts let in the castle. I mean, 1 merit can be gain through posting a single topic without puttin' a little effort.  ::)


Well, I think it's not enough. If you really saw the massive shitposting that comes from the Jr. Members - Members, you'll feel inside that we need to add more. I'm not being selfish because I'm here at the top and I want them to force back at the beggining. I also started in the bottom but I managed to reach this rank through effort and dedication, that's the factor I wanted to see on those Jr. Members. If you want to be successful then give it a hard time to improve yourself to feel at the end that you really deserve it.  ;D

It'senought.
Merit is trackable, so there is a high risk to buy it, the best way is to publish some useful info.
I was one of the ppl who always publish shit posts for airdrop or bounty program, after the new law, I have deleted all of them, just wanna learn the real blockchain technology, not all kind of tricks, so I'm starting blockchain online course, solidity programming etc. 
In general, what I mean is a new law is useful and effective.

About the numbers.
Actually, I think it's not the issues, number of the merit. for example, could be 1, 5 or 10, then what will happen in the future? every time when we have too many shit posts, we increase the number of merits, I don't think it's a solution.  So 1 merit is  enough,In my opinion, int BTT there are only 2 kind of ppl, with Merit and without merit, this means there are two different groups of people.  What BTT needs is a group of ppl who folow the rules and value their merit.
Thanks.

Its so enough for doing 2nd spam attack

For the OP creator,

For now, one merit for Junior member rank has massively affected spammers. All of them turned to Newbies, and part of them exchanged merit (one point) to move back to Junior rank.
Of course, it's hard to discover how they abuse the merit system and also unfairly to judge their abusements base on only one merited thread.
Sometimes, forum users send their sMerits away for non-sense thread without merit exchange.

In another topic, I suggested potential solution in the future.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039367.msg46269972#msg46269972

I think he spat on forum , only need one merit for bounty participate :)