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Title: Manipulation - marlboroza, Lauda. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 26, 2018, 01:04:59 PM
Manipulation - Marlboroza. Help me with the trust.

My trust has made Marlboroza negative. All because of participation in the Bounty. I did not even have time to do anything, as my trust he painted. All the requirements of Marlboroza I fulfilled, quickly deleted all reports about Bounty. But as a result of Marlboroza did not keep his promise to clean the negative trust.

Link to his profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736


Who will lower the trust next to me, for the fact that I defend my rights in the Greatest Forum about Bitcoin!??? :-\ :-\ :-\ :'(


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Findingnemo on September 26, 2018, 01:52:03 PM
marlboroza already warned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4935352.msg45961317#msg45961317) if you post reports after his post you will be get tagged then don't blame or high if you did this.If a project is already found to be scam then promoting it after that it exposed for the money is also an untrustworthy behaviour.

But anyway no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 26, 2018, 02:20:41 PM
marlboroza already warned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4935352.msg45961317#msg45961317) if you post reports after his post you will be get tagged then don't blame or high if you did this.If a project is already found to be scam then promoting it after that it exposed for the money is also an untrustworthy behaviour.

But anyway no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.

Maybe you can help me, with this man? I just do not know him personally!


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 26, 2018, 02:32:50 PM
Maybe you can help me, with this man? I just do not know him personally!
I doubt anybody on this forum knows him personally, but that's just a guess. 

In any case, you were given the correct answer and the only answer that can help you:
no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.

In other words, this is an issue between you and marlboroza.  Take it up with him if you haven't already, but my guess is that the feedback he left you is going to stay in place.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Findingnemo on September 26, 2018, 04:32:54 PM
marlboroza already warned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4935352.msg45961317#msg45961317) if you post reports after his post you will be get tagged then don't blame or high if you did this.If a project is already found to be scam then promoting it after that it exposed for the money is also an untrustworthy behaviour.

But anyway no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.

Maybe you can help me, with this man? I just do not know him personally!
I can't help you,even the moderators can't because the trust ratings are not moderators.I don't know him personally too.Maybe you can ask him for reconsideration but its totally upto him whether to remove or leave you that negative feedback.

Just wait for Marlboroza's reply here or in PM.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: psi331979 on September 26, 2018, 06:44:25 PM
As I understand it, if marlboroza decided that even after correcting the error made in ignorance - you are a not worthy neutral trust (and judging by the over he does it to those who do not "humbly apologizes" and tries to explain the cause of this error) - 1 times to listen to his argument - the failure - and this is the maximum.... Apparently he gives a "negative trust" is so much (NOTE - a fairly right, legal gives! sorry for my English) that does not have time to deal justly with those who are reformed (just as we don't have time to read about the root cause - performing bounty) - but in such high places is not punishable..

Well, let it be on his conscience. I have another question-if there is such a situation-then there are other ways to return trust-for example-to earn his positive feedback?


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Vod on September 26, 2018, 07:57:52 PM
Well, let it be on his conscience. I have another question-if there is such a situation-then there are other ways to return trust-for example-to earn his positive feedback?

He gives a lot of red trust because right now there are so many scammers.

If you are serious about fixing your trust, why don't you try spending a month or so educating others on why certain ICOs are scams?  That might show him you have rehabilitated.  That's what I offer people who try to get a loan without collateral.

If you are not willing to put in the work, just create a new account.  :/


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: psi331979 on September 26, 2018, 09:23:45 PM
Well, let it be on his conscience. I have another question-if there is such a situation-then there are other ways to return trust-for example-to earn his positive feedback?

He gives a lot of red trust because right now there are so many scammers.

If you are serious about fixing your trust, why don't you try spending a month or so educating others on why certain ICOs are scams?  That might show him you have rehabilitated.  That's what I offer people who try to get a loan without collateral.

If you are not willing to put in the work, just create a new account.  :/

I don't think changing the account each time, how wrong is the answer... And in order to deal with the situation and ready to work on your proposal - explain how?


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: marlboroza on September 26, 2018, 11:03:47 PM
All because of participation in the Bounty.
This is blatant lie. No one tagged you because you participated in bounty - tag is because you advertised exposed scam.

I did not even have time to do anything, as my trust he painted.
You didn't have time to check scam accusation, OP's trust wall, warning in bounty topic, announcement thread full of shills? Please, do me a favor and type these words in google: "aircraft scam bitcointalk". Compare dates.
All the requirements of Marlboroza I fulfilled, quickly deleted all reports about Bounty. But as a result of Marlboroza did not keep his promise to clean the negative trust.
You are lying again. First you spammed my inbox with lies
https://i.imgur.com/tZW1aDl.png

then you spammed lies in thread which I had to lock(again) and after all that you decided to remove certain advertising material and to open this thread.

As I said earlier today:

https://i.imgur.com/oTlLasv.png

If you are serious about fixing your trust, why don't you try spending a month or so educating others on why certain ICOs are scams?  That might show him you have rehabilitated.
I will reconsider to change some feedback in future, so far I didn't see anyone(except https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4701035.0) contributing anything except posting bounty reports.
I don't think changing the account each time
Each time?  :o  Ok, I am out of this topic.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 05:53:21 AM
Maybe you can help me, with this man? I just do not know him personally!
I doubt anybody on this forum knows him personally, but that's just a guess. 

In any case, you were given the correct answer and the only answer that can help you:
no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.

In other words, this is an issue between you and marlboroza.  Take it up with him if you haven't already, but my guess is that the feedback he left you is going to stay in place.

But you are a very powerful and respected person at the forum. I used to often notice you in the form of a very active Forum participant. You can influence this person, he really is not right. I was just trying to make a few cents. I have always treated with great respect the Forum and its Administrators. Help me please.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 06:01:26 AM
All because of participation in the Bounty.
This is blatant lie. No one tagged you because you participated in bounty - tag is because you advertised exposed scam.

I did not even have time to do anything, as my trust he painted.
You didn't have time to check scam accusation, OP's trust wall, warning in bounty topic, announcement thread full of shills? Please, do me a favor and type these words in google: "aircraft scam bitcointalk". Compare dates.
All the requirements of Marlboroza I fulfilled, quickly deleted all reports about Bounty. But as a result of Marlboroza did not keep his promise to clean the negative trust.
You are lying again. First you spammed my inbox with lies
https://i.imgur.com/tZW1aDl.png

then you spammed lies in thread which I had to lock(again) and after all that you decided to remove certain advertising material and to open this thread.

As I said earlier today:

https://i.imgur.com/oTlLasv.png

If you are serious about fixing your trust, why don't you try spending a month or so educating others on why certain ICOs are scams?  That might show him you have rehabilitated.
I will reconsider to change some feedback in future, so far I didn't see anyone(except https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4701035.0) contributing anything except posting bounty reports.
I don't think changing the account each time
Each time?  :o  Ok, I am out of this topic.

Tell me how can I remove absolutely everything in a short time ??? I was frightened by the situation! At me the first time such! I do not know how to professionally delete all messages in 5 minutes. But with your help, I deleted everything within a few hours and apologized several times. Forgive me again, for taking part in the Bounty. To earn "a few Cents." In my country life is very hard and I have to work in Bounty. And you helped me to earn extra money. It is very important for me.   :-\ :-\ :'(


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 06:08:29 AM
Well, let it be on his conscience. I have another question-if there is such a situation-then there are other ways to return trust-for example-to earn his positive feedback?

He gives a lot of red trust because right now there are so many scammers.

If you are serious about fixing your trust, why don't you try spending a month or so educating others on why certain ICOs are scams?  That might show him you have rehabilitated.  That's what I offer people who try to get a loan without collateral.

If you are not willing to put in the work, just create a new account.  :/

I'm ready to be on your team. Help me please. I really propagandize the forum in my city from a very positive point of view. And I advocate Bitcoin and crypto-currency even more. And with me there acted ugly, due to the fact that I forgot to remove my posts about SCAM, but everything else was deleted in 10 minutes.

You, too, can ask Marlboroza for me. Help me, I'm a good crypto evangelist.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 06:12:24 AM
All because of participation in the Bounty.
This is blatant lie. No one tagged you because you participated in bounty - tag is because you advertised exposed scam.

I did not even have time to do anything, as my trust he painted.
You didn't have time to check scam accusation, OP's trust wall, warning in bounty topic, announcement thread full of shills? Please, do me a favor and type these words in google: "aircraft scam bitcointalk". Compare dates.
All the requirements of Marlboroza I fulfilled, quickly deleted all reports about Bounty. But as a result of Marlboroza did not keep his promise to clean the negative trust.
You are lying again. First you spammed my inbox with lies


This is definitely NOT a lie! I'm not experienced in such solutions to the problem, I was painted for the first time. And I'm still in shock !! I immediately began to fulfill your demands.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 06:14:12 AM
marlboroza already warned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4935352.msg45961317#msg45961317) if you post reports after his post you will be get tagged then don't blame or high if you did this.If a project is already found to be scam then promoting it after that it exposed for the money is also an untrustworthy behaviour.

But anyway no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.

There are many people who can help me. Maybe even Cobra himself can not help me?))


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 06:42:07 AM
To the unauthorized and not decent actions, Lauda joined as well. It's worth expecting when you start defending your rights at the Forum.
Link to his profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872

I beg your, Lauda, pardon that I began to disturb your friend Marlboroza. But, Marlboroza has already lowered the trust for advertising to SCAMA. What can I do 2 times to do this ??


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Findingnemo on September 27, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
marlboroza already warned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4935352.msg45961317#msg45961317) if you post reports after his post you will be get tagged then don't blame or high if you did this.If a project is already found to be scam then promoting it after that it exposed for the money is also an untrustworthy behaviour.

But anyway no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.

There are many people who can help me. Maybe even Cobra himself can not help me?))
Who is that Cobra,Huh? ???
To the unauthorized and not decent actions, Lauda joined as well. It's worth expecting when you start defending your rights at the Forum.
Link to his profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872

I beg your, Lauda, pardon that I began to disturb your friend Marlboroza. But, Marlboroza has already lowered the trust for advertising to SCAMA. What can I do 2 times to do this ??
No need to beg,Because I guess that your negative feedback will stay forever.If some other DT member leave negative feedback on you then it will keep increases your nrgative trust ratings


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 07:45:18 AM
marlboroza already warned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4935352.msg45961317#msg45961317) if you post reports after his post you will be get tagged then don't blame or high if you did this.If a project is already found to be scam then promoting it after that it exposed for the money is also an untrustworthy behaviour.

But anyway no one can help you to remove this red trust trust other than the person who gave you.

There are many people who can help me. Maybe even Cobra himself can not help me?))
Who is that Cobra,Huh? ???
To the unauthorized and not decent actions, Lauda joined as well. It's worth expecting when you start defending your rights at the Forum.
Link to his profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872

I beg your, Lauda, pardon that I began to disturb your friend Marlboroza. But, Marlboroza has already lowered the trust for advertising to SCAMA. What can I do 2 times to do this ??
No need to beg,Because I guess that your negative feedback will stay forever.If some other DT member leave negative feedback on you then it will keep increases your nrgative trust ratings

that is, there is no justice at the Forum at all ??


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: psi331979 on September 27, 2018, 08:10:37 AM
All because of participation in the Bounty.
This is blatant lie. No one tagged you because you participated in bounty - tag is because you advertised exposed scam.

I did not even have time to do anything, as my trust he painted.
You didn't have time to check scam accusation, OP's trust wall, warning in bounty topic, announcement thread full of shills? Please, do me a favor and type these words in google: "aircraft scam bitcointalk". Compare dates.
All the requirements of Marlboroza I fulfilled, quickly deleted all reports about Bounty. But as a result of Marlboroza did not keep his promise to clean the negative trust.
You are lying again. First you spammed my inbox with lies
https://i.imgur.com/tZW1aDl.png

then you spammed lies in thread which I had to lock(again) and after all that you decided to remove certain advertising material and to open this thread.

As I said earlier today:

https://i.imgur.com/oTlLasv.png

If you are serious about fixing your trust, why don't you try spending a month or so educating others on why certain ICOs are scams?  That might show him you have rehabilitated.
I will reconsider to change some feedback in future, so far I didn't see anyone(except https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4701035.0) contributing anything except posting bounty reports.
I don't think changing the account each time
Each time?  :o  Ok, I am out of this topic.
"Each time?"- this is a translation problem, I meant "every time change my account-it's not good" - This is not an action produced but this is a solution, the translator distorts the phrase


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: markdario112616 on September 27, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
that is, there is no justice at the Forum at all ??

Nah, There actions giving you a red trust is an example of justice have been served.



Though as far as I see it, 0 to no chance at all will that trust be removed.
Like @finding said, Marlboroza did warned those who users who advertised scam projects, etc. and did gave them a chance but that still depends on how you'd reacted about it. Most likely it took at least a month or so (as far as I see it) after he/she removed the red trust after you complied to his/her requirements. It's not an instant removal, as you expected.

and for @Lauda's red trust, I don't think someone can really help you with that.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: allahabadi on September 27, 2018, 05:44:25 PM
I wud just like to point out that @marlboroza always engages with everyone whom he negs and it wud do you good to listen to him early on; rather than trying to skirt your way thru this, do what you can to rectify your situation with @marlboroza.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 07:50:19 PM
I wud just like to point out that @marlboroza always engages with everyone whom he negs and it wud do you good to listen to him early on; rather than trying to skirt your way thru this, do what you can to rectify your situation with @marlboroza.

I'm done, on 2 post he told me that I had him spammed. and the second message was that I fulfilled his requirements and apologized a second time.
Tell me how I could do otherwise? Suggest to him 1 Bitcoin ??


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 07:54:38 PM
that is, there is no justice at the Forum at all ??

Nah, There actions giving you a red trust is an example of justice have been served.



Though as far as I see it, 0 to no chance at all will that trust be removed.
Like @finding said, Marlboroza did warned those who users who advertised scam projects, etc. and did gave them a chance but that still depends on how you'd reacted about it. Most likely it took at least a month or so (as far as I see it) after he/she removed the red trust after you complied to his/her requirements. It's not an instant removal, as you expected.

and for @Lauda's red trust, I don't think someone can really help you with that.

I tell the situation. This happened on September 25, 1818. And I on 26.09.18, in the morning as I woke up, began to delete what he told me. Because of the fright, I did not delete 3 tweets on the tweeter. And here he caught me here. He said it was already late, it was necessary to have time to remove everything in one hour. That I deceived him (Marlboroza).
How further should I behave? I asked him (Marlboroza) 5 times for forgiveness and was kneeling begging to forgive !!


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza, Lauda. Help me with the trust.
Post by: morvillz7z on September 27, 2018, 08:17:50 PM
Posting multiple posts in row (twice in this thread alone) would not help you at all, simply because you are breaking another rule:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

The more you insist on something, the worse it gets. My advice would be, lock this thread, take a week break and delete everything regarding the scam project, apologize again and see if marlboroza is willing to remove his negative feedback. By the looks of it, it's highly unlikely.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza, Lauda. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 08:43:50 PM
Posting multiple posts in row (twice in this thread alone) would not help you at all, simply because you are breaking another rule:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

The more you insist on something, the worse it gets. My advice would be, lock this thread, take a week break and delete everything regarding the scam project, apologize again and see if marlboroza is willing to remove his negative feedback. By the looks of it, it's highly unlikely.

By the looks of it, it's highly unlikely. ???
All this sounds like a threat !! And on the project, I deleted everything the next day.


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza, Lauda. Help me with the trust.
Post by: Farin Aliev on September 27, 2018, 08:46:30 PM
Posting multiple posts in row (twice in this thread alone) would not help you at all, simply because you are breaking another rule:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

The more you insist on something, the worse it gets. My advice would be, lock this thread, take a week break and delete everything regarding the scam project, apologize again and see if marlboroza is willing to remove his negative feedback. By the looks of it, it's highly unlikely.

And in general it's bad that in this way they make me leave this Dear Forum. It's just not human, people do not know how to forgive, they manipulate the opinions of others!


Title: Re: Manipulation - marlboroza, Lauda. Help me with the trust.
Post by: markdario112616 on September 28, 2018, 02:32:03 PM
What you did is spamming, most likely he'll ignore you up until a certain period of time. Like @Vod said better stop whining about your trust, and follow his advise which to contribute positively in the forum. As I see it, you're just making your case a lot harder to resolve.