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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
 
What advice you have for the manager.

I have been thinking closely to this too but what I have come to conclude is that, he might not cancel but might have the opportunity to take those tokens not claimed. Like the ones between the difference of what a member qualify to get and what he actually get. I'm just thinking.  ;D

they have the rights to change the rules and for me it is depends on the general rules of the campaign because I read some rules from different campaign that the manager has the rights to change the rules EXCEPT the allocation there are also some campaigns that it is not indicated within the rules so you can check the campaign that you joined in if there was some rulings regarding the rights of changing the allocation of the budget one thing Im sure is that they have the rights to change the rules.

If you conclude that they have the right to change the rules, are you then saying that their powers supercides the powers of the ico team or the developers? To me however, I think that there powers emanates and subject from the conditions and suggestions they perhaps renders at the time of commencing the campaign managing contract.

For tokens, I think we better hear from managers .

I have seen campaigns where the bounty reward is adjusted based on the number of participants. If the number of participants is lower than a given threshold, the participants get less reward. I don't think this can be done without the approval from the ICO team. Some campaign managers are clear about it from the start. The problem is when the ICO team members change the rules after the end of the bounty. Such things have been happening in the past, mostly with scam ICOs, and I am afraid there is nothing you can do.

Manager who is worried about his/her reputation can not change %. Calculate how much you want earn in this campaign and change if bounty manager abuse you

Anything is possible for a certain bounty manager to change out everything or anything on spreadsheet but when it comes to allocation the decision maker would be the team itself.If its been known that the token allocation is being decrease then not just translation would be affected but on all programs as well. If the stakes or allocation hasn't changed but the tokens being given out is less on whats being stated
then theres something fishy on that one.

Yeah it's very possible for the BM to change the allocation depending on the outcome of the campaign.. Just as you have outlined if just 30 participants participated that's way too low and huge rewards... The BM can go ahead and change the allocation

Yeah, it is always included in most bounties as far as I am concerned, and it is only left for the individual to know whether they should be going through with it or not. Personally, I feel there is a whole lot that could make such things happen which most of it is the fact where just very few participants participated in a particular bounty and judging from the amount that would be distributed, it may actually not sound about right for the team to even let it roll like that.

A lot of managers actually do this, and they have the right to, and a lot of managers just usually let it slide, so it all depends but most times, I really have not experienced something like this before in which a manager gets to slash the bounty earnings or percentage.

The bounty manager should not really be found doing that, as that can be pathetic but most of the time, the team can always try to come up with a means to slash an allocation if they feel it is too much but nonetheless, I really do not think this should be a thing when it comes to the number of people that participated in a said campaign and based on the allocation.

However, it is understandable that looking at the fact that a single bounty participant may be holding a huge amount of the coin or token, the chances of getting it slashed a little is always going to be there and i think a lot of campaigns usually state that out rightly in the campaign rules.

Sometimes there are managers who have policies like that but from the beginning there is a notification on the thread, so Bounty Hunter has found out from the beginning.

Quick answer: They can.
Long answer:
That depends on which bounty manager are your referring to.
Some bounty managers tend to stick to their rules within the bounty campaign itself but if for some reason, they are influenced by the project team to make reductions/changes then he/she might not have any choice but to implement it.
Some bounty managers also clearly state on their bounty campaign rules something like this:
"Bounty pool allocated to this campaign will be 50% less if the participants will be less than 100"
That should give you a hint that when the total number of participants on that particular bounty campaign category does not reach the said amount then the allocated bounty pool will be reduced.
My simple suggestion is; before joining/participating on any bounty campaign, Read and understand the rules and if there's some part of it you don't like, make a suggestion to the bounty manager or don't join.  ;)

      In bounty campaigns, things are not normal. Most times, bounty managers under-estimate bounty hunters and do not appreciate their work. Bounty managers change the terms and conditions of rewards for participants at any time, so there's more stress for the attendee, because every day every day they have to read if something new about the bounty campaign has appeared. It is good to participate in bounty campaigns that have known and serious reward managers.

I saw when the pool was changed due to the small number of participants. The bounty manager can add these tokens to another type of company, or not add it anywhere and exclude the bounty from the pool. The rules often say that if there is a small number of participants, the pool may change.

the rules made by a bounty manager are absolute and must be followed by all bounty participants, but I value ethics and consistency with the rules made.
when a bounty manager often changes the rules with less strong reasons, I will judge him as inconsistent and I will reduce the campaign that they manage for the future

This should really be given out by most bounty out there which do have corresponding clear rules before tending to launch a bounty program.So that it wont really create chaos when theres
changes in the end when they do saw the allocation is way too big for only few participants on such programs.Manager do really have the capability but you are right it can really be influenced anytime
when the team told them to do so and since they are just being paid up too then theres nothing they can do as well.

At least the consistency was stated in the beginning of the campaign warning of changes to the bounty allocation at any time if they were indeed worried that participants wouldn't reach the target. This must be done especially in bounties which are moderated by the project party itself.

Everything will depends on the rules and to the manager of the camp you are in, some of them may tend to change the rules if they don't reach their hard cap but it is often happens to most manager to change their certain rules. Some may stick to the rules as what they have stated but most of them will turn out to be good for pump and dump shitcoins only.

maybe it could also depend on the number of participants who took part in the prize and the drop in the prize might not reduce the prize you would get and the prize would not reduce if there were no irregularities

If that manager has its reputation and pride to protect, he won't do something crazy.

But look closely to the rules of that campaign and see if there's specific rule about the allocation. Reputable manager would stick to what they have been implementing but a manager that sees advantage to this because no one would notice only shows on what type of manager he is.

The bounty campaign manager reserves the right to adjust, remove or add more bounty rewards where necessary. If you check some bounty rules, you will see that there are minimum number of participants required in order to earn the reward stipulated, otherwise it will be slashed.

if something like that happens, usually the bounty manager has the right to cancel or change the percentage allocated.
but as far as I know, I know the same thing, the manager won't stop but continues and what he does is change his presentation

Yes, he can do that if that is included in the bounty's disclaimer, and this thing happened many times before. So we, as bounty hunters, ought to read and understand every single word written in the bounty rules. Do note that this sometimes happens without prior notice. It happened to me many times when the allocation was reduced for this same reason of not achieving the target number of participants in a certain campaign. Well, if the BM has a good character, he/she would include it early in the rules, as I understand that the devs sometimes require number of participants. This thing must be cleared by them with the devs they're working with to avoid trouble in the future.

It depend on the rules of bounty campaign right at the beginning. But I think reduce or increase amount of token for each part of bounty campaign depend on develop team of ICO project behind bounty campaign and bounty manager just need to handle bounty participants and their work weekly.

Yes to prevent the participants to dump the tokens, 20 percent allocated for 30 participants is already a huge amount of token per individual.

Gaining reputation wont really be that easy and no manager will just risk out his reputation for such foolish act to be done.He can really change things if he wanted to but same as others saying on here that it will depend always on the project owners if the tokens will be decreased or not depending on the outcome of the ICO but on general speaking if rules is being set on the first day of the bounty program
then its already fixed and such changes wont really be welcome thats why im not really against for some arguments between bounters and the management if somethings wrong with their pay.

They should receive the deserve amount of tokens and stakes that they have made.

A reputable manager won't really gamble with this idea so that's why they would stick to what they have been doing and won't cause themselves a ruckus because they all wanted to work properly and silently. That's what they used to work so like I said, if ever someone will do it, he's showing his true nature.

To change the rules, a manager can but to change the bounty allocation, I think they should discuss with the developer and team unless he promoted harder for a bounty which he leads to get more participants

Unfortunately that really happened to me in one of the camps a few weeks ago. Not only the manager, even this directly from the owner that he knows the campaign participants are only a few people and he immediately cuts the allocation on the grounds that the coin distribution is evenly distributed and there is no jealousy from other campaign members. So basically they have the right to do that.

This is possible if the devs really appreciate the job done by the bounty manager.

They have the right to do that, who holds the fund - them. You guys can't do anything with that and always check if the rules of that campaign if it says that manager's decision is final.

Yesterday, there was another thread on the matter, with a specific case (see  What can we do if a bounty manager did not pay the tokens as they promised? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061406.msg47489893#msg47489893)). An ICO called Globatalent Network stated a bounty of 1,1M$ and has had that information on it’s Bounty thread since January 2018 (and still is showing that value to date). Bounty token distribution started yesterday, and now the alleged bounty total for the campaign is of 0,1M$ (distributed in their tokens, not USD). Basically, they have cut the revenue ten fold, claiming miserably that they made a mistake and that the total of 1,1M$ was the aggregate for a set of campaigns, and not for this specific one.

So the answer to the question of whether it is possible to reduce the token allocation is a clear yes. It’s not ethical, and the ICO will suffer all the negative comments to come due to such low level actions. Not that they care really too much; most of these cases will likely have the objective of taking the money and good riddance to all, worst case being the investors who actually dipped some (crypto)cash into the ICO. This is a high risk environment, with barely any regulation nor control, in which wasting your personal time is the least that can happen …