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Title: Please check your spelling
Post by: Jet Cash on October 08, 2018, 08:30:54 AM
I find a lot of posts containing incorrect spelling. If one puts aside regional differences and typos, it still leaves a lot of words that are either misused or spelt incorrectly. This reduces the quality of a post, and can be the reason a post is skipped over by a merit awarder. This is because it shows a lack of care, and disrespect for other members reading the thread.

It's really easy to make a quick check - just copy the word into a Google search box, and hit enter. This will either confirm your spelling, or suggest a correction. Also, it will indicate whether the word is apposite. Just look at the first few search results, and you will see if your use of the word is correct for the context of your post.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: OmegaStarScream on October 08, 2018, 08:40:08 AM
Installing Grammarly (https://www.grammarly.com) extension in your browser could also help, the free version should be sufficient.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Jet Cash on October 08, 2018, 08:49:00 AM
I'm not so keep on Grammarly. it seems to be very orientated towards American rather than English. I believe that a Google search is far more of an educational tool, as it provides information about the word in question, and thus expands your knowledge.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: crairezx20 on October 08, 2018, 08:58:12 AM
There are some free tools online that you can use to check your post before you submit. Just in case you need it here is the list of free tools that I use.

1. Grammarly = free writing assistant (Grammarly check, auto-suggest, auto correction, and other additional features)
2. Spellcheckplus = it also works as Grammarly, but you need to copy paste your post from their website from here https://spellcheckplus.com/
3. Spell checker = also good as an alternative that you can find from here https://smallseotools.com/spell-checker/

These tools are useful so before submitting your posts make sure to check them first on these tools.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Jet Cash on October 08, 2018, 09:02:28 AM
You guys are missing the point - a spell checker won't flag a word like "effect" or "insure", when really what you mean is "affect" or "ensure".


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: mu_enrico on October 08, 2018, 09:15:27 AM
I think those mistakes only noticeable by manual reading. If they were too lazy to proofread their own writings, I'm skeptical they will bother to use grammar checking tools or google search engine. By the way, Grammarly also supports British English.

https://image.ibb.co/fAs7r9/british.jpg


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: NeuroticFish on October 08, 2018, 09:25:43 AM
Although Grammarly did sound like a good idea for me, exactly for fixing errors Google defaults cannot see, I've read the reviews and ... hm.. people write that the free version is pretty bad / buggy.
So, since I don't want to pollute my Chrome with an extension that'll do more bad than good, can anybody that is actively using the free one on Chrome confirm that is at least OK-ish?



Edit: Thanks for the feedback @mu_enrico; indeed I write in more than one language so I will not install the extension. I'll keep relying on double checking what I write (most of the time).


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: mu_enrico on October 08, 2018, 09:42:58 AM
Yes, it is really bad if you wrote in multiple languages. Don't use the chrome plugin since it will mess up your non-English writing or make it really difficult to read. Hence, for me, I simply use the Grammarly website whenever I want to write in English. If you only write in English, using extension seems reasonable.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Dudeperfect on October 08, 2018, 02:43:14 PM
just copy the word into a Google search box, and hit enter. This will either confirm your spelling

It's not just the spelling but also wrong sentence framing can change the meaning of that sentence hence taking some precaution while writing is necessary. I would recommend using Grammarly extension for the browser for those who don't have English as their native language. For me, the free version is enough and its effective for basic correction of our writing.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Direwolve735 on October 08, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
You guys are missing the point - a spell checker won't flag a word like "effect" or "insure", when really what you mean is "affect" or "ensure".

Yes, I understand what you`re talking about. The problem you raised can`t be solved with electronic spell checking applications. People who make this type of mistakes, most often don`t even worry about the quality of their posts. They just don`t bother what and in what form they express, the most important thing for them is the fact that a comment has been published, which can be counted in the bounty campaign. Those who are really worried about how their posts will be perceived by other participants, re-read them several times, editing and correcting their thoughts.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: edundayo on October 08, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I agree with this entirely, misuse words not only reduce the quality of a post, it can also scrabble the real meaning of the post such that it becomes difficult for others members to decipher the point being made.

Also, Spelling Checkers are great when it comes to checking words' spelling, but they are just what they are "tools", just like what a cutlass/hoe is in the hands of a farmer, especially when it comes to grammar. I've used some of these tools and often times grammatical errors still pass through them.

So, English language skills is still an important element and most importantly, proofreading over and over before posting.

There is a "preview button" next to the "post button" in the reply form, it's not there for decoration, you should learn to click that first and go over your post like twice. Equally, posting your reply is not the end, you can still go over it again.

I can't even remember how many times I read over my posts, sometimes. Well, you can't be too certain, most times your fingers are not exactly typing what your mind is telling them.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Direwolve735 on October 09, 2018, 06:49:12 AM
You guys are missing the point - a spell checker won't flag a word like "effect" or "insure", when really what you mean is "affect" or "ensure".

Yes, I understand what you`re talking about. The problem you raised can`t be solved with electronic spell checking applications. People who make this type of mistakes, most often don`t even worry about the quality of their posts. They just don`t bother what and in what form they express, the most important thing for them is the fact that a comment has been published, which can be counted in the bounty campaign. Those who are really worried about how their posts will be perceived by other participants, re-read them several times, editing and correcting their thoughts.

Or maybe the situation is completely different. It`s likely that in such cases we are dealing with Freudian slip. In appearance, insignificant and meaningless erroneous actions serve to realize unconscious desires. Despite their seeming absurdity and innocence, this is an outward manifestation of subconscious conflicts and repressed desires. People may have unsolved psychological problems, and we just blame them for their poor knowledge of the language.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: slocker on October 09, 2018, 09:45:22 AM
It's really easy to make a quick check - just copy the word into a Google search box, and hit enter. This will either confirm your spelling, or suggest a correction.

Most now days browsers have this option integrated, cuz if you didn't spell in correctly it will immediately red mark the word, that later user with click of mouse easily change it or to correct it.
Also see many post that use rough google translate from some language to English that is not good bad is small word. This is very bad but it is still something to think about, maybe integration of some translation for for topic or something, but think this will cause only bigger confusion on this.

To be honest the ones that care about something will always check and the ones that dont they will just type and post, simple as that.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: acmakc12 on October 09, 2018, 09:56:10 AM
Knowing the language is the most important thing, only in this way can a person on the forum express his thoughts so that others understand them correctly, if a person cannot use the language in principle, it will be very difficult for him to make high-quality posts.

But we are all human, and we can make mistakes, and the spell checker can help us with this, especially for those who are still learning English but are already studying the forum and trying to express their thoughts.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Obiwankenodium on October 09, 2018, 12:11:18 PM
Most of the time im on my mobile, which for me is the main reason for having spelling errors in my posts.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: nngella on October 09, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
You guys are missing the point - a spell checker won't flag a word like "effect" or "insure", when really what you mean is "affect" or "ensure".

What you are pointing are the hard ones.  I mean, even those that are born having English as their first language also do not know the difference between affect vs effect and ensure vs insure or in spite of vs despite.

They just don`t bother what and in what form they express, the most important thing for them is the fact that a comment has been published, which can be counted in the bounty campaign.

I agree on some point. (but with reservation to avoid the fallacy of hasty generalization).  I also notice that some mobile users tend to commit grammar errors and even spelling because of the auto correct function in their mobile phones.  They need to turn it off prior making a comment.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: lukas_crypto on October 09, 2018, 04:37:28 PM
In general, you're right. Of course, writing without (too many) spelling errors is a thing of respect to the reader. But you shouldn't expect everyone to be as thorough as you are. As long as the reader understands the meaning of what was written, I don't see a problem, especially as most (including me) do not have English as their native language.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: mahdie88 on October 09, 2018, 08:08:41 PM
I find a lot of posts containing incorrect spelling. If one puts aside regional differences and typos, it still leaves a lot of words that are either misused or spelt incorrectly. This reduces the quality of a post, and can be the reason a post is skipped over by a merit awarder. This is because it shows a lack of care, and disrespect for other members reading the thread.

I got your point body. But not everyone here is well-spoken or can write English properly. Even in your post has an error in grammar, so you cannot tell everyone here that posting wrong English will reduce their quality post. They are just trying their best that they could to engaged and ask people to help to learn here and be better.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Yadstiker on October 10, 2018, 12:01:58 AM
just copy the word into a Google search box, and hit enter. This will either confirm your spelling

It's not just the spelling but also wrong sentence framing can change the meaning of that sentence hence taking some precaution while writing is necessary. I would recommend using Grammarly extension for the browser for those who don't have English as their native language. For me, the free version is enough and its effective for basic correction of our writing.
That would make sense I usually do that when I think my compilation of a sentence is I'm not actually sure because sometimes there are some words which are complicated to used Grammarly Extension can help you out.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: PDNade on October 10, 2018, 09:14:38 AM
I find a lot of posts containing incorrect spelling. If one puts aside regional differences and typos, it still leaves a lot of words that are either misused or spelt incorrectly. This reduces the quality of a post, and can be the reason a post is skipped over by a merit awarder. This is because it shows a lack of care, and disrespect for other members reading the thread.

It's really easy to make a quick check - just copy the word into a Google search box, and hit enter. This will either confirm your spelling, or suggest a correction. Also, it will indicate whether the word is apposite. Just look at the first few search results, and you will see if your use of the word is correct for the context of your post.

Your right, Wrong spelling is such a big problem and it may causes misunderstanding of the readers when your posting something.Actually we are not all perfect and we are not all fluent in spelling or say the words in english languange , So for me it is okey if sometimes we do wrong spelling but be sure it's not you doing always.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: S_Therapist on October 10, 2018, 10:50:10 AM
You guys are missing the point - a spell checker won't flag a word like "effect" or "insure", when really what you mean is "affect" or "ensure".
Exactly. This is the problem of spell checker. For the guys who make some common mistakes, please notice-

Knew-New
Knew is past form of know and new is something which has been done for the first time.

Then-Than
Then means kind of times and than is used in comparison.

Their-There
Their is possessive form of they and there refers to a place actually.

Even-Eventually
Even generally refers to mention something specially. But eventually refers "in the end".

Doesn't the own forum correct misspellings?
OP is not talking about mispelling at all. Those are some common mistakes actually.

Doesn't the own forum correct misspellings? <...>
No, that is some feature related to your device/browser and textboxes.
It seems you are little wrong. There should be a feature in SMF which does correct the spelling as the guy said.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Davil on October 10, 2018, 11:07:18 AM
Doesn't the own forum correct misspellings? In my case I've just tried writing "mispelling" and it has changed it automatically. Even when I've tried to maintain the word in the post, it keeps highlighting it. It should be enough to maintain certain level of quality (unfortunately it doesn't revise the "use of English"). Maybe it's because I use a Mac, or maybe I enabled some options in the configuration screen, I can't remember.

On the other hand I agree with you that, if you're non native, as it's my case, and write in the general sections of the forum, you have to try to do an effort to be understood and keep learning the language in order to improve more and more, or stick to the alternative of writing in your local section, which isn't a bad deal neither.

Anyway, I also think that there are some native speakers in the forum that write without any care, using vulgarisms and other structures hard to understand for non natives, and that is not incorrect, but they should take into account who are they talking to when they answer this way. We are a different cultures and languages melting pot in here and without noticing it we're building the language of the Internet, which 10-15 years ago didn't exist, and which will evolve into something unpredictable in the future. For this reason, apart from respect and trying to be understood, which are fundamental reasons too, we should take care of the way we express ourselves in the public Internet.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: DdmrDdmr on October 10, 2018, 12:30:09 PM
Doesn't the own forum correct misspellings? <...>
No, that is some feature related to your device/browser and textboxes. For example, when I type on my Ipad using Safari, a spelling corrector kicks-in on its own. On the other hand, my laptop does not spell-check when using Firefox, so I tend to type the content on Word first to be on the safe side. Of course, this is not error free, and grammar issues may be overlooked, but at least it ensures a better base than typing right in to the post area of the forum.


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: SoiledDove on October 10, 2018, 12:44:48 PM
I never make spelling mistakes, but yes, typos are a problem. Doing a check before posting is a very good habit. After all if you can't be responsible for your forum posts, how will you look after your Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: marlboroza on October 11, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
This is because it shows a lack of care, and disrespect for other members reading the thread.
I blame movies.

Knew-New
Knew is past form of know and new is something which has been done for the first time.

Then-Than
Then means kind of times and than is used in comparison.

Their-There
Their is possessive form of they and there refers to a place actually.

Even-Eventually
Even generally refers to mention something specially. But eventually refers "in the end".
To be honest I made lots mistakes. It is not that I don't know difference between words, I blame my language, as we write like we speak and it is very easy to misspell something (these examples are some of my mistakes):

"They" - "day"

"know" - "no" or sometimes ""now"".

"Too" - "two" or "to" (not necessary in that order).

"Than" - "then"

"won't" - "want"

"on" - "in"

"literary" - "literally"

"yes" - "no" - not really :P

You will find lots of my posts edited because of this, even days after posted. Many remain unedited.
Other then this, I always see red lines under words if I didn't spell them correctly   ::)

I don't really want to talk about my grammar  ::)


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: bill gator on October 12, 2018, 06:51:19 PM
I'm not so keep on Grammarly. it seems to be very orientated towards American rather than English. I believe that a Google search is far more of an educational tool, as it provides information about the word in question, and thus expands your knowledge.

You guys are missing the point - a spell checker won't flag a word like "effect" or "insure", when really what you mean is "affect" or "ensure".

Uh oh, Jet Cash, I think you made an oopsie. This entire thread is about you manually reading your posts for spelling mistakes and you have exactly the kind of mistake you are instructing against. Nobody is infallible and it happens to the best of us, very regularly I will type "do" instead of "so" or "got" instead of "get", just because I am thinking and typing quickly without as much thought as might be warranted.

I believe you meant "I'm not so keen"


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: lordaquila91 on October 14, 2018, 03:07:45 AM
I find Grammarly very useful and the thing that has helped me most is reading every day the news from Coindesk and Cointelegraf and another couple of websites I usually check. There are some terms I didn't even knew before. My vocabulary is improved and I find myself to be faster at typing as well. I guess reading crypto related news this last year, has helped me with my English as well


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: Direwolve735 on October 21, 2018, 08:30:52 AM
I find a lot of posts containing incorrect spelling.

I consider as a big problem not only a wrong spelling of words, but also an absolute violation of grammatical and punctuation rules. Some posts are written in solid text, so reading them requires great effort, not to mention understanding and interpretation. For example, I hardly understand what Ace Amias meant when he wrote the following replies ...

No altcoin can't be dangerous to bitcoin because the strategy of business and market of bitcoin is more than the altcoin combine bitcoin is the cryptocurrency that is accepted worldly its takes away many hurdles from its way and went onto the peak so altcoin is started from bitcoin and it cannot stop bitcoin.

They cannot refuse me and they cannot make me quit from cryptocurrency if one lose it does not mean that you should quit get up and learn from your mistakes did not greedy for making too much profit instead earn little from crypto but on daily basis if you lose don't be sad and try to recover your lost amount.

So I was reading his posts, and thinking what was wrong with them ...
Finally it dawned on me what was the matter!

https://d.radikal.ru/d05/1810/25/215f78f8b30c.gif


Title: Re: Please check your spelling
Post by: jerick06 on October 21, 2018, 10:59:20 AM
I agree, I was encountered tons of it and it is not good in the eye. It also changes the whole thought of the sentence sometimes. I recommend to read a book that can enhance their skills when it comes to composing grammar especially checking their own error spelling.