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Title: ICO downturn
Post by: gezhid008 on October 13, 2018, 11:04:41 AM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: pufenduy on October 13, 2018, 11:08:25 AM
It is happening, because people are tired of red market. Everyone who invested their money wanted to make profits, but no ICO in August or September, benefited investors. EVERY project has dropped their price, after listing. It is very sad, because with such movement we will lose even more investors.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: iconoclast on October 13, 2018, 11:25:55 AM
The ICO downturn will deter the quickbuck artists who are only interested in investing in the project until it is listed on an exchange and then taking a quick profit. Fortunately there are also more patient investors who believe the rise of the blockchain is a multi decade story and that you really can't expect an exit when you are investing in start ups for a couple years. I am still investing money in ICO's and also good projects that ICO'ed in the last couple years that are trading at bargain prices.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: SidneyFoley on October 15, 2018, 03:27:17 AM
It is unfortunate to see most of the ICO dropping their price. There are some good projects in the market too. And there are investors who believe in a project and not just looking for a quick profit.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: tonyja2017 on October 15, 2018, 04:04:35 AM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.
I do not think that. There are still some good ICO projects being current and we need to capture it. Because now good ICO projects are very rare. This is a sign of the ICO downturn but I believe that as the market grows, there will be a lot of great projects going on like in 2017.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: MarcoMayer on October 15, 2018, 04:31:30 AM
The thing to understand this is a waiting game and you can't expect things to change overnight. If you're serious about investing in the crypto world you'll have to be patient as well as cautious. Good things take time.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: princehandsome on October 15, 2018, 04:38:46 AM
there are many scam ICO at the moment that make investors unwilling to invest, that's is which makes the ICO decrease this year. this seems to be influenced by market prices, if market price movements increase later this year, then there will be many large projects in the coming year.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: DesertOasis3 on October 15, 2018, 04:45:21 AM
I think it is too early to call an end to the ICO investment opportunities for regular investors. The Bear market of 2018 has proven to be a poison chalice for those trying to launch projects and I don't think any have approached anywhere close t0 their Hardcap targets. The conditions are not supportive of ICO right now but that could all change in a Heartbeat when the market turns around.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: UAE Seasider on October 15, 2018, 04:48:01 AM
there are many scam ICO at the moment that make investors unwilling to invest, that's is which makes the ICO decrease this year. this seems to be influenced by market prices, if market price movements increase later this year, then there will be many large projects in the coming year.

I don't agree with that at all there are virtually no scam ICO around now as regulations and awareness have made it way more difficult for them to try and get a fake project off the ground. What we are seeing is a reaction to the Bear market conditions with investors reluctant to throw money into projects that launch on exchanges cheaper than they were sold.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: sufferer123 on October 15, 2018, 04:51:11 AM
Almost all of the newly emerging ICOs are making a great loss to their investors. But this is will not continue in the future. First, projects that have a really good project will rise. Then FOMO will come. And about 90% of the projects in the market will begin to be valued. This will attract investors again.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: cabron on October 15, 2018, 04:56:57 AM


There had been scams even during 2016 and 2017 but the price were just staggering, one reason why people are not investing today is because price isn't going nowhere but down. And we know this isn't just because there are scam ICO that investors don't invest. Its because we are waiting for the price to go up and unfortunately its not happening til regulations are finalized in each country. Governments are messing us all again.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: a d i m u l on October 15, 2018, 05:01:40 AM
it's time to go down for all the icons, because of the many projects that failed to find investors and the number of bounties that were spam, so many people didn't trust ico.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: jacafbiz on October 15, 2018, 05:42:41 AM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.

We are seeing this now, because if you look at most big ICOs that apply the SAFT then you see this is a way most developers would even preffered, reason being that most of them don't look for quick flip like most retail investors and also it take time before the tokens get listed on exchange so there is no pressure on them to get listed on exchanges also and if they do mostly go for the top exchanges which do help the price alot and generate interest


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Crypto Girl on October 15, 2018, 07:06:28 AM
It is happening, because people are tired of red market. Everyone who invested their money wanted to make profits, but no ICO in August or September, benefited investors. EVERY project has dropped their price, after listing. It is very sad, because with such movement we will lose even more investors.
Well I guess everything is still usual, maybe we just used on having a quick profit that with the current situation can't guarantee.
The percentage of icos that abandoned their projects were increasing and the effect turned out this year which is substantially affect the investor's position. The difficulty isn't the market itself thus the lack of regulation in performing the crowdsale is.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: anobtc on October 15, 2018, 07:09:06 AM
It is now time for the ICO to shift its focus to capital from large investment funds and institutions. So the ICO must be really strong and clear to attract capital from these investment institutions.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: lobo13hf on October 15, 2018, 07:15:34 AM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.

We are seeing this now, because if you look at most big ICOs that apply the SAFT then you see this is a way most developers would even preffered, reason being that most of them don't look for quick flip like most retail investors and also it take time before the tokens get listed on exchange so there is no pressure on them to get listed on exchanges also and if they do mostly go for the top exchanges which do help the price alot and generate interest
The main problem is the ico traders. They don't care about the price of token after it being listed on the exchange site. They are accumulating their profit from the pre-sale price. Some developers offer non sense interest to buy their tokens. that made the situation even worst. They must prove their identity and in other reason KYC is a mandatory for the team.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Legendari on October 15, 2018, 07:15:55 AM
Unfortunately, you're right.I also note the emergence of this trend and it is bad for us as investors. Now we have to buy coins from the market if we want to invest.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: BlockchainGod on October 15, 2018, 07:19:50 AM
I do not think that there is a decline in ICO now. Yes, many projects are increasingly supported by venture investors, but public ICO is still very much and we have the opportunity to invest.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: baricuri on October 15, 2018, 07:23:11 AM
there are many scam ICO at the moment that make investors unwilling to invest, that's is which makes the ICO decrease this year. this seems to be influenced by market prices, if market price movements increase later this year, then there will be many large projects in the coming year.
The current market is not just many fraudulent ICOs, but poor ICO projects, inexperienced ICO projects are still taking place in the market, capital mobilization for the purpose of appropriating assets of investors, Ending the value of the tokens is always much lower than the sale price during the ICO period, thus making investors fear and they are abandoning the ICO.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Fadhil Pahlawadi on October 15, 2018, 07:40:35 AM
our supporters will certainly give us enthusiasm as a player who is certainly everyone who supports us to get maximum results for the future so we get 100% ico that has ended


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: sky9314 on October 15, 2018, 07:42:22 AM
Perhaps this is only a temporary phenomenon, because there are too many scam icos this year, these scams pumped a lot of water from those good icos, so that the whole market is in a downturn, but this downturn will also eliminate those Scam icos, so this is not a bad thing.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Dolarin on October 15, 2018, 07:43:26 AM
Relax. It's temporary. I think when the market becomes bullish again, people will start investing in ICO again. IMHO


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Pamadar on October 15, 2018, 07:49:18 AM
Investors became wiser nowadays, they are very much selective and taking care of their money very well, off course there's still investors who's willing to take the risk and keep pursuing to gained good success, ICO if succeed is really a good way to earned from this industry we just need to make a good timing and proper research this downturn might be replaced back of good sign and usable projects.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: waser12 on October 15, 2018, 07:50:44 AM
I agree with you, after implementation of new regulations by SEC for companies which raise money on ICO this market will decrease.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: oioi on October 15, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
It is very sad because the ICO has decreased, this is a result of many fake ICOs so
investors are reluctant to invest, and also the price reduction is very far from the
ICO price when they first entered the market.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: mcgeil on October 15, 2018, 11:55:25 AM
In any sad situation, you need to look for positives. Most ICO projects do not receive even minimal funding for further development of the project due to a lack of investors. But at the same time, projects that offer unique functionality or are simply in demand in society easily reach the required amount of funding.  The crypto currency world continues to grow thanks to high-quality and popular ICO projects, and this is not a bad thing.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: ivannalog814 on October 15, 2018, 12:03:01 PM
If the project has competently set goals, marketing, the ICO team will be successful both in investments and in the market ! Need an idea that will be useful !


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: starplaks on October 15, 2018, 12:10:01 PM
In my opinion, things are not so bad, most likely people are afraid to launch ICO for the reason that now there is a bear market!


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Nikolas Brown on October 15, 2018, 12:14:10 PM
The down time of the market is already affecting the market on a large scale. A significant amount of investors are already turning away after being in the red zone for a long time. This movement will make more investors loose interest in the market.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Lerikaweb on October 15, 2018, 12:22:07 PM
The reputation of crypto startups has been spoiled so much that they really need a miracle to help them return the people's trust.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: CreamIce on October 15, 2018, 12:27:08 PM
It's sad but you will also notice mostly ICO's who go bad are never really promising. Its always a too good to be true story. They try and lure investors but the game is changing now. With market's reach the investors are becoming smarter.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: ridho002 on October 15, 2018, 12:31:38 PM
In any sad situation, you need to look for positives. Most ICO projects do not receive even minimal funding for further development of the project due to a lack of investors. But at the same time, projects that offer unique functionality or are simply in demand in society easily reach the required amount of funding.  The crypto currency world continues to grow thanks to high-quality and popular ICO projects, and this is not a bad thing.
Lack of enthusiasts due to not presenting unique things among others, that's what causes just a few investors interested. This is clear evidence that a truly unique project is visited by many investors.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: bixorastexante on October 15, 2018, 03:41:30 PM
I think it is just specifics of red market. When the times will come back to green and good there will be a lot of new ICO affordable for ordinary people.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Cedrick on October 15, 2018, 03:48:24 PM
I think a lot of investors are giving up because of the bear market. Its been too long and the market never recovers. It is getting worst and the possibility of a bull run is getting slim. I always believe that the bull run will happen but that changed when the price of ETH goes down. It is really at the bottom and no wonder why the investors are trying to stay away from crypto for now.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: santino11 on October 15, 2018, 03:51:53 PM
There are so many scam ICO which affects most LEGIT ones.
Investors are getting afraid now on participating in ICO.
Bounty hunters are getting no payment on a scam or not reach soft caps.
Rank here is very hard to achieve as Merit is not been giving away.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Argoo on October 15, 2018, 04:01:30 PM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.
It is too early to say that the golden age has ended for ICO projects. Like the entire cryptocurrency market, ICO projects are now experiencing a big recession. However, this is all temporary. The market will recover, there will be good opportunities for ICO projects. Now many projects are not starting to hold ICO and are waiting for a convenient time, the same should be done to us.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: dhiraj0977 on October 15, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
Sad, but true.  Hardly seen any recent ICOs launched with great success, and even many good ICOs prices down by 5 times compared to ICO price.  These days investors are showing very less interest in ICOs investment due to very high failure rates of ICOs.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: AccidentalTuber on October 15, 2018, 06:42:41 PM
The ICO downturn might be a good thing. Many ICOs without a proper pathway, comes to the market for venture capital. Other entry level ICOs might learn from this and up their game.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: BusyShows on October 15, 2018, 06:43:13 PM
We can look at this ICO downturn as a postive way. But we have to keep in mind that everything has both merits and demerits. It will be a good thing to see loss of funds due to lack og proper business structure.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: moonblocks on October 16, 2018, 06:25:27 AM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.

The fund raising landscape is starting to change but there will always be opportunities for retail investors as this increases the chances of adoption and real world use

VC funding will contribute to more legitimate projects which is good for the industry


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: mayan251 on October 16, 2018, 06:46:48 AM
Yes. Many ICO can't raise funds now. Because once their coins is on the exchange. It will be dumped immediately. So many ICO projects fall below the issue price. For the latest STO. I also think ordinary people can't participate in it.



Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: mbah on October 16, 2018, 06:50:05 AM
for this year is indeed becoming less exhilarating time for the ICO. the decline in abundance of crypto and maybe a scam there is enough existing ICO influence be seen getting down compared to the previous year. some ICO may still be promising but found it of course also quite difficult because there is not the least of the ICO.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: i7claufe on October 16, 2018, 06:55:24 AM
Yes, this is a very sad truth. Hopefully, bear market will be over soon and the ICO goes back to it's normal state. Also, should ICOs be regulated, to remove 95% of the ICOs that were actually scam goes goner then maybe then investors would come back.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Wibizza on October 16, 2018, 06:55:56 AM
Generally, investors don't get equity shares, but rather betting that tokens, which often open services on the product to be launched, will increase in value if the startup succeeds. And their surge this year comes despite strict supervision from regulators, fraud and a well-publicized scam and broad selling on the cryptocurrency market.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: jouns on October 16, 2018, 07:06:47 AM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.
I think that you are right. Today, the majority of projects collect soft caps from various financial funds, who are offered to invest with special more favorable conditions.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: gelinshidong on October 16, 2018, 07:10:51 AM
ICO has grown to a very dangerous level. If the ICO rules are not standardized and effectively changed, the development of ICO will become very difficult and will even be replaced by a new model.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: conanmori on October 17, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Better buy ICO coins after they listed on exchange cause the price dropping from exchange -80%. But it won't help the project much since you didn't buy it at ICO whitelist but to those Airdrop or Bounty dumpers. Still you can give the coins a volume.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: cchub on October 17, 2018, 08:18:05 PM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.

ICOs can still be profitable once people realize hard caps must be much lower than dozens of millions of dollars!


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Billg4t3r on October 17, 2018, 09:00:26 PM
We can look at this ICO downturn as a postive way. But we have to keep in mind that everything has both merits and demerits. It will be a good thing to see loss of funds due to lack og proper business structure.

It is only natural that there is a decline because many projects fail and are also based on investors who are less serious in participating so the project stops. we must believe everything will be okay to think positively because many new ICO projects are convincing so that the ICO returns to normal. as you say the lack of a good business structure so that the project becomes meaningless.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: allohha on October 17, 2018, 09:17:40 PM
We can look at this ICO downturn as a postive way. But we have to keep in mind that everything has both merits and demerits. It will be a good thing to see loss of funds due to lack og proper business structure.

It is only natural that there is a decline because many projects fail and are also based on investors who are less serious in participating so the project stops. we must believe everything will be okay to think positively because many new ICO projects are convincing so that the ICO returns to normal. as you say the lack of a good business structure so that the project becomes meaningless.
today, the investment attractiveness of the ico market of companies has declined significantly, and this is not only due to the large number of scammers, but also to the poor state of the market. Investor profitable to buy coins on the stock exchange.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Mysteryla on October 17, 2018, 09:47:28 PM
The downturn is so common, because we now have so many amateurish ICOs with nothing to offer. A project with something worthwhile to offer, will easily gasin wide adoption.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: Irvinn on October 17, 2018, 10:00:02 PM
I'm sorry to say that the golden age for ordinary people entering the ICO is over. This value will shift more to venture capital funds for the simple reason that many large vc funds offer significant upside. Neither propaganda nor their support networks, and most of the projects are mindless. Most vc funds are usually 100 percent.
No, of course, after the recovery of the cryptocurrency market, the ICO projects will again find their second life. Many ICO projects are not starting up right now and are waiting for the market to rise, current ICO projects are extending the deadline for ICO since they really have difficulty raising funds. It is very difficult now for the bounty hunters, since the ICO generosity campaigns now last for half a year or more. Nothing can be done, this is a difficult time to wait and endure.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: basici on October 17, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
no, I'm sure that cryptocurrency startups will still catch a wave of growth and when the bulls return to the market on new projects it will be possible to make good money again


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: BALIK on October 17, 2018, 10:49:00 PM
The amount of money being raised by ICOs is still roughly the same as it was a few months ago, it's just that there are massively more ICOs now as everybody seems to think it's a quick get rich quick system, boy are they wrong.

Every man and his wife has an ICO now, almost all of them are going to completely fail miserably as they don't understand what it takes to be successful in a bear market.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: BETAWI on October 17, 2018, 11:08:21 PM
The main reason for this, may be due to the lack of trust that exists in investors, which makes them lazy to invest and often does not succeed in making a profit. Then they move to another place or another way. ICO  :'(


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: CuriousGeorge on October 17, 2018, 11:34:28 PM
We can look at this ICO downturn as a postive way. But we have to keep in mind that everything has both merits and demerits. It will be a good thing to see loss of funds due to lack og proper business structure.

It is only natural that there is a decline because many projects fail and are also based on investors who are less serious in participating so the project stops. we must believe everything will be okay to think positively because many new ICO projects are convincing so that the ICO returns to normal. as you say the lack of a good business structure so that the project becomes meaningless.
today, the investment attractiveness of the ico market of companies has declined significantly, and this is not only due to the large number of scammers, but also to the poor state of the market. Investor profitable to buy coins on the stock exchange.
They are thinking the market trend was giving a lot of impact to the price of token after it has already listed on the exchange site. They are thiking doin' a trade it's much better compared to the ico, but remember hyped ico can give a huge profit instantly dude.


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: vrabac68 on October 17, 2018, 11:50:53 PM
Its all because of the current market conditions. But even in bear market so many ICOs had success in collecting enough to continue with project. It all depends from idea,mpv,team,future usecase and backings. I believe market will recover and more and more ICOs will come back again


Title: Re: ICO downturn
Post by: pacman7331 on October 17, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
Yes, It is happening very fast! A lot of investors move their face away from investing on ICOs. 70% of icos are failed to give investor's money back. People invest in ICOs to make a high profits. but nowafays ICO like, if you want to waste your money, invest in ICOs! I forget which project gave me profits!