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Title: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: flatfly on March 07, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
The Aha! moment...

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ee89f7cf824a85ad5f11d52604ffdebe9f01302bcea8ddec0af450f9185ddf1



Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: darkfur93 on March 07, 2014, 07:43:17 AM
And sent without a fee.


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on March 07, 2014, 07:45:06 AM
gox


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: freedomno1 on March 07, 2014, 07:45:22 AM
Are these Satoshis goes to look at Bitcoin days destroyed

Edit ah chart won't update till tomorrow on that guess Gox


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: dyseac on March 07, 2014, 07:45:42 AM
Dorian Nakamoto running for the hills!  ;D


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: freedomno1 on March 07, 2014, 07:48:15 AM
Are these Satoshis goes to lock at Bitcoin days destroyed

Satoshi's coins are untouched 50 bitcoin block rewards.

Yah instinct was getting the better of me with all the Satoshi news today


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: Pierre on March 07, 2014, 07:49:13 AM
Karpeles getting ready to skip country with his stolen coins


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: Sindelar1938 on March 07, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
The winklevii escrowing their fare for the intergalactic trip.. ;)


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: broolstoryco on March 07, 2014, 10:29:38 AM
The Aha! moment...

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ee89f7cf824a85ad5f11d52604ffdebe9f01302bcea8ddec0af450f9185ddf1



its goxcoins


from reddit:
"More importantly, the ฿50,000 output here is zero transactions away from the ฿550,000 proof of reserves that Tux signed back in 2011: https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

That ฿550k transaction was made by Karpeles. The ฿50k output has been sitting there untouched since 2011... until today."


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: freedomno1 on March 08, 2014, 12:36:09 AM
Well if converted to an exchange one must pay a 1.5% fee


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: casinocoin on March 08, 2014, 12:37:13 AM
$ 113,738,400.00
Ill take that


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: franky1 on March 08, 2014, 12:50:24 AM
its gox coins, thank god someone tagged their deposit addresses to identify it as gox.. or we would start hearing how leah goodman forced dorian to hack bitcoin with a spoon and some train track to give her funds, coz dorian is just, that good. (or so the tinfoil hat people would say)

but the truth is, that gox is consolidating all its cold stores (or karpales is retiring to a white sand, clear water beach front property)


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 08, 2014, 01:48:55 AM
lol.. Karpeles moving his coins...


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: SirBitsalot on March 08, 2014, 04:05:26 AM
White beach sounds nice haha.


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: oaxaca on March 09, 2014, 02:48:35 AM
Pretty entertaining.  Start here:

https://blockchain.info/address/1KecDYadohxk8MCDqKF8SBEMhCUNveAsCj

At 2014-03-07 05:01:08 we see 200,000 coins appear.  2 hours later they get split into groups of 2.  For instance:

https://blockchain.info/tx/1dda0f8827518ce4d1d824bf7600f75ec7e199774a090a947c58a65ab63552e3

Now for the fun part.  Every hour or so (confirming), these "halfs" get split in 2 again.  Now just follow it through:
(I'll only use the bigger half for illustration)

1Nobu... gets 94,000, then

1PYAf... gets 51,000, then

1NKzK... gets 29,000, then

so on and so on and so on.  Fast forward to the current time:

15HdW... gets 12 BTC.  Waiting for confirms.

-----------------------------

How long before these 200,000 BTC get split up into 200,000 addresses by this halving procedure?



Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: roslinpl on March 09, 2014, 03:04:41 AM
The Aha! moment...

https://blockchain.info/tx/4ee89f7cf824a85ad5f11d52604ffdebe9f01302bcea8ddec0af450f9185ddf1





Hmm and after that ammount was ~halving and send to another 2 wallets. And again, and again :P

Someone with >180000BTC do not want to be tracked? :)


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: oaxaca on March 09, 2014, 03:12:59 AM
Someone with >180000BTC do not want to be tracked? :)

200,000 is the real number.  Not that the extra 20,000 BTC amounts to much anymore  :o

Tracking is so easy, even I could do it.  There must be another reason.  Theories anyone?


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: CryptoDomains on March 09, 2014, 03:16:39 AM
So explain this to me..if it was a program that is made to keep splitting them up over and over, it must ...

A) Be set to stop at some point (how many bitcoin per account before splits stops)
B) Also store or record other info and sent that somewhere.

What makes me go wow is how many addresses and keys that would be to have and keep track of, unless he wrote something to handle that as well. Even still, holy crap. Also even with all these splits the accounts can still be monitored so what is the point.

Is it ment to be able to hide keys all over the place for all these accounts and even if you lose some you may never lose it all.





Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: Taras on March 09, 2014, 03:23:38 AM
Beautiful, watching these coins move about.


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 09, 2014, 06:34:33 AM
Dorian Nakamoto running for the hills!  ;D

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQK8cLsda58x5FSkIW_0mxvjoLxRlDJq2KeTi4cJay37pacDa2N7A
"I know you! You're that Satoshi dude."

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/qoWTvHV6a0U/hqdefault.jpg
"I just sold the farm to some Satoshi dude, sis."

http://media1.break.com/breakstudios/2012/1/9/tucker%20and%20dale%20vs%20evil.jpg
"Get a load of our new slanted-eyes neighbors."

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpHrPN1mP-naNA21g1eYItZnv9-4RshPun3dIMxdQ4bJpHsI2B

http://www.grillwilson.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ewwbl_ruth_gordon_01.jpg
"Keep your drunkard asses and lawnmowers away from our opium field!"

http://cdn.newsweek.com/data/images/full/2014/03/04/3670-3-7-fe0108-bitcoin-04.jpg
"Thanks, Ma. Time to go and play with the trains now."

BTW, that's Satoshi standing sentry in front of the first every Silk Road. See the Road? Recognize the Silk?


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: freebit13 on March 09, 2014, 08:31:31 AM
So explain this to me..if it was a program that is made to keep splitting them up over and over, it must ...

A) Be set to stop at some point (how many bitcoin per account before splits stops)
B) Also store or record other info and sent that somewhere.

What makes me go wow is how many addresses and keys that would be to have and keep track of, unless he wrote something to handle that as well. Even still, holy crap. Also even with all these splits the accounts can still be monitored so what is the point.

Is it ment to be able to hide keys all over the place for all these accounts and even if you lose some you may never lose it all.
It has to do with change and transaction confirmations... making payments from large addresses takes a long time for change to be returned. splitting it up into smaller coins makes high volume transaction faster and more secure, reducing the chance of double spending.

Oh, the keys would abviously all be automatically stored in a db.... one would hope.


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: CryptoDomains on March 09, 2014, 12:13:06 PM
I see I see...

Do we really believe it is about ease of a transaction vs a simple divide to hide?

Also, would someone do that and send all the keys to one db? Would they hide them or divide that info after the fact?



Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: rohan1 on March 09, 2014, 01:29:03 PM
MT-GOX, top suspect for this.


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: Beliathon on March 09, 2014, 02:08:52 PM
Skynet.


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: Xio on March 09, 2014, 02:18:43 PM
It's also possible some authority involved in the MtGox insolvency decided they'd have to split any remainder of funds into small chunks for reimbursements for whatever logical reason.  ;D


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: andyBernard on March 09, 2014, 02:19:01 PM
nsa moving coins?


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: Searing on March 09, 2014, 02:40:18 PM
Skynet.

+1

(bitcoin all the drama of the end of the world without leaving your computer screen.......pick a day any day)

what would be scary if they really did just find Satoshi ...and he is just plain p/o'd at being found out....

and i don't know flushes the works to paris hilton's bitcoin address or to  donald trumps btc address or the facebook twins

riots i tell you riots would  happen if kim kardasian controlled all that BTC

(crap scared self)

(on a side note i DO predict that someday someone like pais hilton or donald trump will win a major lottery like powerball
same riots different circumstances..you heard it hear first ...probably Robert Blake heh)

Searing


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: freebit13 on March 09, 2014, 02:48:16 PM
Skynet.

+1

(bitcoin all the drama of the end of the world without leaving your computer screen.......pick a day any day)

what would be scary if they really did just find Satoshi ...and he is just plain p/o'd at being found out....

and i don't know flushes the works to paris hilton's bitcoin address or to  donald trumps btc address or the facebook twins

riots i tell you riots would  happen if kim kardasian controlled all that BTC

(crap scared self)

(on a side note i DO predict that someday someone like pais hilton or donald trump will win a major lottery like powerball
same riots different circumstances..you heard it hear first ...probably Robert Blake heh)

Searing

-1 Wrong Movie!

https://i.imgur.com/4rP3Iff.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GFXgI3y.jpg


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: bitjoint on March 09, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
Isn't this 180k person/entity splitting the coins in the very same way that the mtgox thieves did?... don't you find this worrying?


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: ifritsultan on March 09, 2014, 05:25:03 PM
Is anybody able to verify whether this is legit or not?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zz21j/mtgox_2014_hack_database_revealed_live_from_mark/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zz21j/mtgox_2014_hack_database_revealed_live_from_mark/)


EDIT:

The post has been immediately removed.
Here is my screenshot of it:

https://i.imgur.com/nCK859b.jpg


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: hyunsookmom on March 09, 2014, 05:31:43 PM
Please mtgox will you please buy darkcoins to keep your money off the radar, you get rich, I get rich, everyones happy! :P


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: jbreher on March 09, 2014, 07:00:32 PM
What makes me go wow is how many addresses and keys that would be to have and keep track of,
Umm.... isn't that exactly what wallets do?
Quote
unless he wrote something to handle that as well.
Maybe he's learned his lesson about trusting his own code.

Unless, of course, he just stole the money himself.

Which seems a distinct possibility.


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: E.exchanger on March 09, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
GOX bastards possibly who else can have that amount of coins  :o :o fuck gox   >:(


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: roslinpl on March 09, 2014, 10:41:53 PM
GOX bastards possibly who else can have that amount of coins  :o :o fuck gox   >:(

hmmm there are many people who can have 180kBTC

If someone spend few hunderd bucks in 2010 to buy some BTC :) he could be just a taxi driver or a streetcleaner. :)


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on March 09, 2014, 10:45:40 PM
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/09/mt-gox-hack-allegedly-reveals-bitcoin-balances-customer-account-totals/


Title: Re: 180,000 BTC (old coins) have just moved
Post by: roslinpl on March 09, 2014, 11:12:23 PM
Someone with >180000BTC do not want to be tracked? :)

200,000 is the real number.  Not that the extra 20,000 BTC amounts to much anymore  :o

Tracking is so easy, even I could do it.  There must be another reason.  Theories anyone?

Another reason - make Bitcoin network more busy? :D

Only reason is - if you would have 200kBTC would you like to have it on a one address? And show that to someone? :) It's harder to steal from so many addresses than if it would sit on just one.